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Title: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Royalty on October 22, 2014, 02:56:19 PM
Mark Hunt will replace him

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/21/7034143/cain-velasquez-injured-and-out-of-ufc-180-mark-hunt-fights-fabricio
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: BDsauce on October 22, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
That PED testing owning the UFC

Every event has fighters pulling out all the time now  ;D
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: honest on October 22, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
UFC shits getting old with all their champions getting hurt and dropping out, Werdum will just take it to the ground and submit Hunt, another PPV not worth buying
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 22, 2014, 03:13:27 PM
Noooooo

What a pity, i was looking forward to this.  Wedie VS Hunt will be a totally different matter (one-sided)

But we will correct all of this.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Royalty on October 22, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
UFC shits getting old with all their champions getting hurt and dropping out, Werdum will just take it to the ground and submit Hunt, another PPV not worth buying

Werdum almost died the other day (from carbon monoxide poisoning)

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/10/18/6997949/fabricio-werdum-nearly-dies-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-in-mexico
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Archer77 on October 22, 2014, 03:15:14 PM
That PED testing owning the UFC

Every event has fighters pulling out all the time now  ;D

It's something, man.  Could be the level of contact in training but it does seems like MMA is the one combat sport with the ones last minute withdrawals.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Sokolsky on October 22, 2014, 03:16:32 PM
Not very surprising since Cain hasn't fought in months.
Surprising how long these guys can go without a payday though.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: BDsauce on October 22, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
It's something, man.  Could be the level of contact in training but it does seems like MMA is the one combat sport with the ones last minute withdrawals.
The testing has scared most fighters and so they don't use like before. Fighters testing positive are getting the axe now or fined severely.

Guys are getting injured now because recovery is hard after training.

Just think back in the older days, the fighters use to fight more often and now these guys fight once or twice a year....

Guys were juiced to the gills back then
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 22, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
that sucks,was waiting to see cain pound werdums head thru the canvas when werdum trys pulling guard
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Royalty on October 23, 2014, 05:19:51 AM
Not very surprising since Cain hasn't fought in months.
Surprising how long these guys can go without a payday though.

In the past 3 years, Cain has only fought two guys: Bigfoot (twice) and Junior Dos Santos (three times).
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: oldgolds on October 23, 2014, 08:34:31 AM
This is BS...The guy fights about once a year...If he can't stay healthy enough to defend his title on a regular basis, he should be stripped.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Archer77 on October 23, 2014, 08:39:42 AM
The testing has scared most fighters and so they don't use like before. Fighters testing positive are getting the axe now or fined severely.

Guys are getting injured now because recovery is hard after training.

Just think back in the older days, the fighters use to fight more often and now these guys fight once or twice a year....

Guys were juiced to the gills back then


I'm not denying something weird is happening.  I tend to agree with your assessment.  Boy do I missed the drug fueled days of Pride. I like my fighters like I like my beef, full of hormones.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 23, 2014, 10:57:48 AM
UFC shits getting old with all their champions getting hurt and dropping out, Werdum will just take it to the ground and submit Hunt, another PPV not worth buying

Indeed.

Never thought i'd lose interest as i've been watching for a long time but the thrill is now over for me.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Alucard on October 23, 2014, 11:18:48 AM

I'm not denying something weird is happening.  I tend to agree with your assessment.  Boy do I missed the drug fueled days of Pride. I like my fighters like I like my beef, full of hormones.
Drug testing in professional sports is a joke, 2014, every athlete on this planet is on lots of stuff... Let them freely juice to the gills in a somewhat level playing field, that's what fans and spectators want to see, records, incredible inhuman feats, and so on...
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 23, 2014, 02:27:11 PM
cain made over a million dollars last year,not bad for just fighting 2 guys.heath had to compete against over 30 guys in the olympia n what did he make,100,000 dollars?
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 23, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
Dana destroyed the UFC by bring women into fighting...Wonder why major league baseball doesn't bring in women's softball during the World Series?
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 23, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
Dana destroyed the UFC by bring women into fighting...Wonder why major league baseball doesn't bring in women's softball during the World Series?

My guess is that when Rhonda quits to go do movies, women will be dropped and never seen again.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 23, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
Dana destroyed the UFC by bring women into fighting...Wonder why major league baseball doesn't bring in women's softball during the World Series?

Because there is no limit to what Dana would do to get ratings and make money including be a human freakshow dispenser while MLB takes their craft much more seriously and would never disrespect it by doing that. White doesn't care about the sport and the respect that comes with it he merely cares for the money it creates.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Darren Avey on October 23, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
Shit I was so looking foeward to the Cain fight. My fav fighters.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 23, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Shit I was so looking foeward to the Cain fight. My fav fighters.

Why can't these modern fighters who are supposedly so great fight more than once a year.

Robbie Lawler is one of the few tough people left in the sport.

I can't stand it when people say "Its because of how hard they go in training" utter bullshit , guys have been blowing their balls out in training for 20 years and its never been this bad. UFC and alot of the fighters are becoming a joke.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 23, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
Shit I was so looking foeward to the Cain fight. My fav fighters.

cains tough,always has great game plan,crazy bob cook and javier vasquez r genius when it comes to making game plans for guys like cain and daniel cormier
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gmflex on October 23, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
Cain Velasquez is the best pound for pound fighter..
He just needs to stay healthy to stay relevant in the eyes of the ufc / mma fans..
Bummed out he got injured again  :'(
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 23, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
i can testify to this tho,that any fighter at ufc level and even below is going into their fights with some injuries,no one fights totally injury free,if they do they did a 3 week rush job training camp cause they got the call from dana after a fighter on the card got hurt like in cains case.in my younger days i did judo n my a coach from a neighbor dojo in our city that i became freinds with used to say what hurts today on morning of tournaments and id tell him where im all banged up n he would smile and say that means u r ready.i didnt understand it then but i caught on,he meant that if i was truelly training hard enough in the dojo that id have atleast a injury or 2,if i was not hurt at all he knew i was dogging it in training.words of wisdom there
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: anabolichalo on October 24, 2014, 04:07:49 AM
mark hunt has been demolishing tiny tits for a few decades
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Radical Plato on October 24, 2014, 06:52:11 AM
Drug testing in professional sports is a joke, 2014, every athlete on this planet is on lots of stuff... Let them freely juice to the gills in a somewhat level playing field, that's what fans and spectators want to see, records, incredible inhuman feats, and so on...
Do you really think the do-gooders would ever allow such a thing?  Better to fight a moral war on drugs that kills a thousand times the amount that drug use ever would.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gym**rat on October 24, 2014, 06:54:05 AM
Dana destroyed the UFC by bring women into fighting...Wonder why major league baseball doesn't bring in women's softball during the World Series?

I have to disagree with you. The best seasons of TUF lately have been the ones with women in them. When it was both men and women not too long ago, the women's fights were much more entertaining than the mens. Plus there is some girl on girl scissoring going on in those fights. That is a good thing.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: _bruce_ on October 24, 2014, 07:12:38 AM
The chicks go at it with full fury which makes them very enjoyable... also women move pretty funny and at looks somewhat corny.
The men's fights are too professional which neuters their appeal. I miss the Tank Abbott/Kimo days.... unique characters, aggression and mayhem is all I need.

Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 24, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
mark hunt has been demolishing tiny tits for a few decades

And he will keep doing so throughout his 40's.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 24, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
I have to disagree with you. The best seasons of TUF lately have been the ones with women in them. When it was both men and women not too long ago, the women's fights were much more entertaining than the mens. Plus there is some girl on girl scissoring going on in those fights. That is a good thing.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be women fighting. It just never should have been in the UFC. Dana should have started another organization totally away from the UFC name for the women. Maybe something as simple as WUFC(Womens Ultimate Fighting Championship). Pretty sad when Ronda Rousy is basically your top headliner in the UFC. That's all i'm saying...
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: MAXX on October 24, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
I'm not saying there shouldn't be women fighting. It just never should have been in the UFC. Dana should have started another organization totally away from the UFC name for the women. Maybe something as simple as WUFC(Womens Ultimate Fighting Championship). Pretty sad when Ronda Rousy is basically your top headliner in the UFC. That's all i'm saying...
That would get zero viewers. They're riding the coattail of mens UFC.

Just like female soccer gets zero viewers. Women don't even support their own gender in sports. They do other shit or rather watch men doing sports.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: King Shizzo on October 24, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
And he will keep doing so throughout his 40's.
He is an exciting fighter, but his mma record is terrible.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 24, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
He is an exciting fighter, but his mma record is terrible.

For a kickboxer its pretty good. He has taken out all of the UFC's prospects and some good veterans in devastating fashion.

Kongo
Struve
Rothwell
Nelson

And he gave Silva a beating too.

And they were ALL slated to beat him with no trouble lol.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Royalty on October 24, 2014, 03:35:53 PM
Cain had a successful surgery on his injured knee. He wants to be back in the Octogon by March.

"The approximate timetable is that Velasquez will be ready to train again in December, and they are targeting early March for a fight. It is rumored that UFC 184 will be on Feb. 28 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. With the strong Hispanic population of the Los Angeles market, Velasquez is a natural headliner. He's already fought three times in the market, once at the Staples Center and twice at the Honda Center in Anaheim, including his first title win over Brock Lesnar four years ago. But that date may be pushing it slightly, and it's expected Chris Weidman vs. Vitor Belfort would headline that show. Velasquez against the winner of the Nov. 15 fight between Werdum and Mark Hunt for the interim title could headline in March."
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Radical Plato on October 24, 2014, 06:13:27 PM
I have to disagree with you. The best seasons of TUF lately have been the ones with women in them. When it was both men and women not too long ago, the women's fights were much more entertaining than the mens. Plus there is some girl on girl scissoring going on in those fights. That is a good thing.
I always thought the introduction of women into the UFC was to attract the female dollar.   I can understand why women like seeing women get beat up, as women hate each other but I have always wondered why any man would want to watch women beat the crap out of each other.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 24, 2014, 06:24:51 PM
i hate to say this but this fight with hunt vs werdum is gonna play out fast,its either gonna be hunt knocking werdums head into the third row or werdums gonna try like hell to take him down and once there its pretty much a wrap.either way it should be quick and fun, i hope fun anyway
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: anabolichalo on October 25, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
i hate to say this but this fight with hunt vs werdum is gonna play out fast,its either gonna be hunt knocking werdums head into the third row or werdums gonna try like hell to take him down and once there its pretty much a wrap.either way it should be quick and fun, i hope fun anyway
i remember hunt from K1 where he beat the shit out of lebanner

his leg was so hurt, lebanner would only need a few kicks to hunt leg to finish him


but hunt kept baiting lebanner with his concrete head

"come on you pussy hit me on my head you cant punch me down lol"

and lebanner stupid idiot went for it


the result was expected, in punch distance lebanner got demolish by big fat hunt
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Alucard on October 25, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
i remember hunt from K1 where he beat the shit out of lebanner

his leg was so hurt, lebanner would only need a few kicks to hunt leg to finish him


but hunt kept baiting lebanner with his concrete head

"come on you pussy hit me on my head you cant punch me down lol"

and lebanner stupid idiot went for it


the result was expected, in punch distance lebanner got demolish by big fat hunt
Remember that match like it was yesterday, Hunt a warrior with that destroyed leg, always wars with Le Banner...
For a kickboxer its pretty good. He has taken out all of the UFC's prospects and some good veterans in devastating fashion.

Kongo
Struve
Rothwell
Nelson

And he gave Silva a beating too.

And they were ALL slated to beat him with no trouble lol.
The fight with JDS was also competitive, rocked him, and he had a foot problem... For being "old" and out of prime he's doing good in UFC...
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: _bruce_ on October 25, 2014, 02:12:51 PM
i remember hunt from K1 where he beat the shit out of lebanner

his leg was so hurt, lebanner would only need a few kicks to hunt leg to finish him


but hunt kept baiting lebanner with his concrete head

"come on you pussy hit me on my head you cant punch me down lol"

and lebanner stupid idiot went for it


the result was expected, in punch distance lebanner got demolish by big fat hunt

lebonner's brain only weighs around 350gramms - as stated by the Japanese institute of chimpanzee science.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 27, 2014, 06:49:48 PM
Remember that match like it was yesterday, Hunt a warrior with that destroyed leg, always wars with Le Banner...The fight with JDS was also competitive, rocked him, and he had a foot problem... For being "old" and out of prime he's doing good in UFC...

Hunt is an unworldly tough and resilient human being, probably as tough as genetically possible which contributes to his success. Not saying he's not skilled the guy was built to kickbox and has serious technical skill  ability and coordination.

He's what people love , a stout striker with good takedown defense and a spirit that won't die. Arguably the most exciting ACTIVE HW fighter at the current time too.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: King Shizzo on October 27, 2014, 06:59:24 PM
Hunt is an unworldly tough and resilient human being, probably as tough as genetically possible which contributes to his success. Not saying he's not skilled the guy was built to kickbox and has serious technical skill  ability and coordination.

He's what people love , a stout striker with good takedown defense and a spirit that won't die. Arguably the most exciting ACTIVE HW fighter at the current time too.
True, but it shows how weak the hw division is.

There is no way that Hunt deserves a title shot if he wins.

Most guys need to win 4-5 fights in a row , and only if they are big names, to get a chance at the title.

This is pure desperation by the UFC.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Schnauzer on October 27, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
Kongo/Velasquez was a great fight

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/975lpd.jpg)
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: thebrink on October 27, 2014, 09:00:08 PM
True, but it shows how weak the hw division is.

There is no way that Hunt deserves a title shot if he wins.

Most guys need to win 4-5 fights in a row , and only if they are big names, to get a chance at the title.

This is pure desperation by the UFC.

Again, I posted who he's beaten in the UFC recently and those are some of the other fighters competing for title shot. He wiped them out most by knockout.

He has beat alot of the same fighter Cain has so what does that say about the current champions legitimacy?

Starting to think you are just a 'tuf'fer'.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: Royalty on October 28, 2014, 08:30:27 AM
True, but it shows how weak the hw division is.

There is no way that Hunt deserves a title shot if he wins.

Most guys need to win 4-5 fights in a row , and only if they are big names, to get a chance at the title.

This is pure desperation by the UFC.


Hunt had a good fight with Junior Dos Santos.

Although Hunt did get KO'd with a spinning kick to the head.
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: gracie bjj on October 28, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
im interested to see if werdum is gonna try to use the same type of gameplan he used against brown,maybe ill reword that and say use the same type of striking style he used with brown.reason im saying this is cause alot of grapplers have known to try and strike with guys who r known as great strikers to try to prove something to the people saying stuff like (u better take him down quick or else)ive seen great grapplers like werdum fall victim to that and go away from their strengths and start striking with a great striker only to get nailed and lose,i know werdum had a decent showing against brown in the striking but brown aint by no means in the same league as hunt,not close.hunt just needs one halfway clean shot and i dont care who it is they r going down,maybe not totally out if it wasnt clean but mark can finish with some nasty GROUND AND POUND
Title: Re: Cain Velasquez hurt his knee and is out of UFC 180
Post by: MAXX on October 28, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
Kongo/Velasquez was a great fight

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/975lpd.jpg)
funny he gets is lights truned off twice and still stands back up