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A lot of people say Bertil should have won the '83 Mr. O. He came in 5th.
Here he is with 3rd place Lee Haney.
Bertil seems to be owning him here (upper body).
He talked shit about judges a lot of times, may have hurt his placings...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_xePLCgxMm8/TuIxxih6c7I/AAAAAAAAAzo/e9XCFpANsgo/s1600/jfufer.jpg)
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Looks like Haney forgot to train arms that year.. An honest mistake
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b. fox for the win.
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Cant judge 2 bodybuilders by one photo.
Betil has him on arms in that particular pic the rest is just too close.
But get them together in 14 mandatory poses and Haney is simply better than Fox.
WoooSSHHHHHHH I miss awesome lee
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Amazing genetics.
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His arms, shoulders, chest almost look cartoonish. Definitely the freak of his time. :'(
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Robbed of few placings maybe, but winning the title? In my opinion no, Bannout was perfect from head to toe, Haney was overall superior, Makkawy looked great... Fox was fourth in front of Zane... He was a 5'7 freak with amazing arms, shoulders, chest, small waist, good lower body, but from the back not so good, and he was soft... Posing was also bad...
A lot of people say Bertil should have won the '83 Mr. O. He came in 5th.
Here he is with 3rd place Lee Haney.
Bertil seems to be owning him here (upper body).
He talked shit about judges a lot of times, may have hurt his placings...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_xePLCgxMm8/TuIxxih6c7I/AAAAAAAAAzo/e9XCFpANsgo/s1600/jfufer.jpg)
Epic 16-17 inches arm on Haney here...
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And Bertil still looks better than every idiot out there today, go figure....
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And Bertil still looks better than every idiot out there today, go figure....
he was one thick SOB!!
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Thats not a pic from the olympia though,its the 83 swiss grand prix held after the olympia,Greg DeFerro is in the background and he didn`t do the Olympia.I do understand your point about that one particular pose though,his arms blow Haneys away,and i personally don`t think Lee should have placed as high as 3rd that year.I had it Bannout,Fox,Makkawy,Haney.
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May have hurt his placings? Of course it did talking shit about the judges will pretty much guarantee you being placed lower lol.
Guy was a freak , even though I was never a fan of his build. His back didn't do it for me.
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I laugh when people say he should have won in 83 lol one of these guys is 210lbs and the other is 188lbs He's not out-muscling Samir though.
Fox had great delts , arms and pecs but he had a lot of holes in his physique.
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I laugh when people say he should have won in 83 lol one of these guys is 210lbs and the other is 188lbs He's not out-muscling Samir though.
Fox had great delts , arms and pecs but he had a lot of holes in his physique.
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He had strange legs, not the best calves, and poor posing (just like Casey Viator)...
P.S. Not hating here, just observations.
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He had strange legs, not the best calves, and poor posing (just like Casey Viator)...
P.S. Not hating here, just observations.
He had good calves.
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fox was good in gym pics and power poses like the side chest and most muscular which showed off his thickness but also narrowness, the rest opened up his flaws, his lats didn't flare out in the fdb, his rls was mediocre and so was his bdb
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I laugh when people say he should have won in 83 lol one of these guys is 210lbs and the other is 188lbs He's not out-muscling Samir though.
Fox had great delts , arms and pecs but he had a lot of holes in his physique.
Samir was awesome that year. Carved out of hard plastic look. Now there was something I waited to see on NBC months after. Kids today all spoiled with the internets.
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Bertils back lacked the width of haneys, Haney was actually the dorian of his era, he won many a close show based on his superior back, even though both Dorian and Coleman eclipsed his back years later Haney had a great back. Props to Dorian for attacking his strengths in his pursuit to take him down, but Haney wrote the book on how to win close shows, have the better back, worked well for Dorian and Ronnie later on as well.
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he was so damn thick though...his muscle rolls over itself when he flexes
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he was so damn thick though...his muscle rolls over itself when he flexes
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Muscle on top of muscle.
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BRUTAL BERTIL BEEF IT BRUTAL BERT IT BEEF!!!
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may not of had the prettiest build and i know a show aint won on a few poses but man his side chest and most muscular are really impressive, im wondering what a brual bertil cycle was,never struck me as the type to go nuts and abuse everything,i think he was so blessed with good genetics that he prolly grew just as fast eating mass amounts of chicken and steak ect then he woulda on more drugs,its a fact the better genetic guys dont have to go as far into the darkside cause they dont have to,where a bodybuilder that has shitty genetics has to try to go to the point of no return into the darkside just trying to keep up with the good genetics guy
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Haney 1983 Olympia posing
Bertil 1983 Olympia posing
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Good video here
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man samir was on the money that year,he couldnt of nailed it any better
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Cant judge 2 bodybuilders by one photo.
Betil has him on arms in that particular pic the rest is just too close.
But get them together in 14 mandatory poses and Haney is simply better than Fox.
WoooSSHHHHHHH I miss awesome lee
Turn them around and you would see that Lee Haney had one of the best backs of all-time.
And it would be lights out Bertil....
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Fls showing bertils narrowness in the clavicles and Lats don't flare. Looks like amateur compared to samir there
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Bertil looked his best in the 1980 Wabba world champs that Segio won,he could hit his lat spreads better back then.
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he was a very strong Bodybuilder.
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I was at a show one time and turned around, Bertil Fox was sitting behind me, was more impressed than if it had been the president.lol
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he was a very strong Bodybuilder.
I have a dvd around here somewhere "Brutal Fox 2". he uses some very heavy weights.
Works up to 180 lb dumbbells for 11 easy reps (bench), does 500 on incline bench for fairly high reps, etc.
Uses some body English to get some of the weights up, but still a very strong focker...
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I have a dvd around here somewhere "Brutal Fox 2". he uses some very heavy weights.
Works up to 180 lb dumbbells for 11 easy reps (bench), does 500 on incline bench for fairly high reps, etc.
Uses some body English to get some of the weights up, but still a very strong focker...
100lb seated dumbbell curls theres a video on youtube somewhere , swinging form but brute strength and a ton of aggression and intensity when he trained. I think he was just an angry guy.
I was never a fan of his build but his approach to power training and intensity always interested me. The main reason why he was so dense and strong IMO.
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A lot of people say Bertil should have won the '83 Mr. O. He came in 5th.
Here he is with 3rd place Lee Haney.
Bertil seems to be owning him here (upper body).
He talked shit about judges a lot of times, may have hurt his placings...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_xePLCgxMm8/TuIxxih6c7I/AAAAAAAAAzo/e9XCFpANsgo/s1600/jfufer.jpg)
Once they turned around Haney destroyed Bertil. Bertil did have one of the thickest chests and inccredible arms of all time though.
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Turn them around and you would see that Lee Haney had one of the best backs of all-time.
And it would be lights out Bertil....
I think structurally and also the way Bertil worked out was to blame. When it comes to working the back, Bertil's somewhat sloppy/anything goes style of lifting doesn't work for back. Also, he was about being "big" which means usually translates to a "front" bodybuilder. When they turn around, their back doesn't match their front. Guys like Strydom, Dillett, Nasser, come to mind.
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I think structurally and also the way Bertil worked out was to blame. When it comes to working the back, Bertil's somewhat sloppy/anything goes style of lifting doesn't work for back. Also, he was about being "big" which means usually translates to a "front" bodybuilder. When they turn around, their back doesn't match their front. Guys like Strydom, Dillett, Nasser, come to mind.
Good post.
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bertil was awesome....don't get me wrong......but lee was far and away better than bertil......lee had better flow and one of the very best backs in the history of the sport......plus bertil could not pose anywhere near lee haney.
lee was also a hell of a lot more consistent than bertil.
bertil was thick though!
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Wow, arnold should be lucky the negros dident enter the stage in the 70ies...they would crush him! Well they already did back in the times Serge nubret and Robbie Robbinson had 10x better physics!
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Wow, arnold should be lucky the negros dident enter the stage in the 70ies...they would crush him! Well they already did back in the times Serge nubret and Robbie Robbinson had 10x better physics!
They had great muscle bellies but thats about it... Doesn't mean they looked better.
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A lot of people say Bertil should have won the '83 Mr. O. He came in 5th.
Here he is with 3rd place Lee Haney.
Bertil seems to be owning him here (upper body).
He talked shit about judges a lot of times, may have hurt his placings...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_xePLCgxMm8/TuIxxih6c7I/AAAAAAAAAzo/e9XCFpANsgo/s1600/jfufer.jpg)
Bertil was a mass monster freak, who was way ahead of his time. Guy was mad strong in the gym. Had legit 22" biceps. The judges were so hard on him that he began to lose more and more weight and by 1987 he was a shadow of his former self. He was at his best in 1982 and 1983 (230-240 pounds). Not the gaunt 215 pounds he would show up at in late competitions (Again, because the judges told him to lose the mass). If he had competed in the 1990's, he would have been 260 onstage (which was his offseason weight in the early '80's).
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Bertil & The MYth
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may not of had the prettiest build and i know a show aint won on a few poses but man his side chest and most muscular are really impressive, im wondering what a brual bertil cycle was,never struck me as the type to go nuts and abuse everything,i think he was so blessed with good genetics that he prolly grew just as fast eating mass amounts of chicken and steak ect then he woulda on more drugs,its a fact the better genetic guys dont have to go as far into the darkside cause they dont have to,where a bodybuilder that has shitty genetics has to try to go to the point of no return into the darkside just trying to keep up with the good genetics guy
This is a good post.
You can tell by looking at certain bodybuilders that they just have insane genetic response to the drugs.. I'm talking only having to run one or 2 extra compounds on top of Test.
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Nice DB Incline press.. notice he is weaker on the left side.