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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: kevthekid on November 04, 2014, 06:35:13 AM
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I recently finished a tren test mast cycle and gained quite a bit of fat and wound up being around 13-15% BF at the end of my cycle. Currently cruising 250mg a week of sust and 4 weeks into my cut I was shooting this morning and knocked my vial off my sink and it shattered so now im out of gear and the only thing I have left is dbol 50mg capsules. So far I've gone from 215 to 197 and about 10-11% BF. Now my question is should I just drop all the gear and continue cutting down to around 7% and keep doing what I'm doing, or should I just take whatever dbol I have left to prevent muscle loss until I get more gear. I know this may be a dumb question but I was just curious. Im leaning towards the just coming off completely and dropping BF.
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I recently finished a tren test mast cycle and gained quite a bit of fat and wound up being around 13-15% BF at the end of my cycle. Currently cruising 250mg a week of sust and 4 weeks into my cut I was shooting this morning and knocked my vial off my sink and it shattered so now im out of gear and the only thing I have left is dbol 50mg capsules. So far I've gone from 215 to 197 and about 10-11% BF. Now my question is should I just drop all the gear and continue cutting down to around 7% and keep doing what I'm doing, or should I just take whatever dbol I have left to prevent muscle loss until I get more gear. I know this may be a dumb question but I was just curious. Im leaning towards the just coming off completely and dropping BF.
Don't use that dbol! That will just really shut you down without test and your already shutdown enough by now.It all depends on how you feel. if you don;t feel crashed out then you could just diet natural but I would be safe and cruise. You are young so you could get away with with going off completely. I think at your age you will bounce back. have you already ran your anchileries or did you skip that part? check your PM.
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Don't use that dbol! That will just really shut you down without test and your already shutdown enough by now.It all depends on how you feel. if you don;t feel crashed out then you could just diet natural but I would be safe and cruise. You are young so you could get away with with going off completely. I think at your age you will bounce back. have you already ran your anchileries or did you skip that part? check your PM.
I checked my pm I havent gotten anything yet. And there is no way I could possibly cruise since I have no gear left other than the dbol, so im pretty fucked at this point.
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you will lose a shitton of muscle if you cut without any gear right after bulking with a ton of gear.
say goodbye to your gains
cutting on cruise is dangerous regarding muscle loss already
cutting while you have zero hormones in you and not even doing PCT or recover? no thx
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I checked my pm I havent gotten anything yet. And there is no way I could possibly cruise since I have no gear left other than the dbol, so im pretty fucked at this point. Also today was the last day I pinned since my vial shattered just this morning, so I'll have to be ordering a pct today
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I Pm'ed you. I hope you at least have some anchileries around and hop on some DHEA and DAA right away. also use a vitamin B complex. all those supplements are not bullshit they are probably the 3 supplements that are legal that work. whatever you do don;t use the dbol. At least your young and i think you can get your natural Test levels back.
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I Pm'ed you. I hope you at least have some anchileries around and hop on some DHEA and DAA right away. also use a vitamin B complex. all those supplements are not bullshit they are probably the 3 supplements that are legal that work. whatever you do don;t use the dbol. At least your young and i think you can get your natural Test levels back.
I'll go the route you sent me on pm. I'll get some DAA today the second I have time, same with the vitamins. I can get the anchileries within a few days too.
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you will lose a shitton of muscle if you cut without any gear right after bulking with a ton of gear.
say goodbye to your gains
cutting on cruise is dangerous regarding muscle loss already
cutting while you have zero hormones in you and not even doing PCT or recover? no thx
No I'll be doing PCT
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No I'll be doing PCT
your hormone levels are gonna be zilch for at least 2-3 weeks though.
if you want to blast and cruise forever anyway then take the dbol and continue cutting until you got more test gear.
obviously cutting on dbol is not optimal but it will still work.
its completely pointless to come off now if you want to blast&cruise anyway.
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your hormone levels are gonna be zilch for at least 2-3 weeks though.
if you want to blast and cruise forever anyway then take the dbol and continue cutting until you got more test gear.
obviously cutting on dbol is not optimal but it will still work.
its completely pointless to come off now if you want to blast&cruise anyway.
Im getting more, but won't be here for abor another 1-2 weeks so I just won't take anythjng for those 1-2 weeks. I think j should be fine if I just take some DAA and vitamins for the time being
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you can have 4 weeks off, you wont lose anything, it will give you a break as well.
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you can have 4 weeks off, you wont lose anything, it will give you a break as well.
Is four weeks really enough for a "break"? I'm planning an offseason after I compete in 3 weeks and my plan was to go off everything and throwing in peptides, hcg, adex, clomid(? or nolva), DAA and maybe some ostarine (I hear it doesn't shut you down but helps retain muscle) for 4 weeks, then be off everything until January (which would make it 8 weeks of being off AAS). I would really like to go off for longer but I'm afraid I'd regress too far and start at a lower level than if I took a shorter break. At the same time I want everything to come back to "as normal as possible" and I'm thinking it might take longer than 8 weeks to do that.
I respect your opinion, and a couple others' on this board, so I'd love to hear what you have to say on the subject.
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Is four weeks really enough for a "break"? I'm planning an offseason after I compete in 3 weeks and my plan was to go off everything and throwing in peptides, hcg, adex, clomid(? or nolva), DAA and maybe some ostarine (I hear it doesn't shut you down but helps retain muscle) for 4 weeks, then be off everything until January (which would make it 8 weeks of being off AAS). I would really like to go off for longer but I'm afraid I'd regress too far and start at a lower level than if I took a shorter break. At the same time I want everything to come back to "as normal as possible" and I'm thinking it might take longer than 8 weeks to do that.
I respect your opinion, and a couple others' on this board, so I'd love to hear what you have to say on the subject.
and then go back on again?
You would be better staying on, its less shock to your system
Just cruise on 250mgs test e a week.
You wont lose anything.
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Is four weeks really enough for a "break"? I'm planning an offseason after I compete in 3 weeks and my plan was to go off everything and throwing in peptides, hcg, adex, clomid(? or nolva), DAA and maybe some ostarine (I hear it doesn't shut you down but helps retain muscle) for 4 weeks, then be off everything until January (which would make it 8 weeks of being off AAS). I would really like to go off for longer but I'm afraid I'd regress too far and start at a lower level than if I took a shorter break. At the same time I want everything to come back to "as normal as possible" and I'm thinking it might take longer than 8 weeks to do that.
I respect your opinion, and a couple others' on this board, so I'd love to hear what you have to say on the subject.
It would take about 6month at the least to get back to normal, or as normal as can be... Either gave a shirt brake or stay on cruise dose imo.... A clean month wouldn't do much harm, 8 weeks will eat into gains and your gaining nothing from it health wise..
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man once you stick that needle in your ass your kind of s crewed for life unless your just going to do a small 8-12 week cycle and use all the right anchileries and supplements. If you keep going for years your fucked. eventually you will need TRT.
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if you cut without gear after being on gear, even once your natty hormones are back to normal.
you wil shrink hard fast great and long.
no way around it, uinfact if i could choose one or the other cut on gear or bulk it would alweays be cut.
thankfully i would never have to choose
and yes once you stick that metal rod right in your ass, comming of steroids is worse then heroin (not srs)
i cant think of anything worse then, going on comming of being depressed and small and deflated, going back on
god that sounds fukin awful
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It would take about 6month at the least to get back to normal, or as normal as can be... Either gave a shirt brake or stay on cruise dose imo.... A clean month wouldn't do much harm, 8 weeks will eat into gains and your gaining nothing from it health wise..
6mo off sounds like a good plan. Sick of sticking pins into my ass/legs every other day. If I don't qualify for the next level at this show I'm going off for a while, otherwise it looks like my off time will be a maximum of 8wks.
Thanks for all the input, guys!
And yes, I'm aware I'll be on TRT for life, I've accepted that, I just want to take breaks for body and mental health's sake. I'd like to know that I can mentally handle shrinking a bit because eventually I'll have to do it anyway.
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i tried come of onec - lasted 3 weeks and then put so much tren in my system i wass ill for a week. :)
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I'll be using till I'm dead! I'm 32 and a TRT patient plus I use more on the side then my TRT dose because the doctors don;t know what the fuck their doing! My directions on my watson Test cyp say 1- ml 200mg every 2 weeks! How the fuck is one shot of Testosterone cyp suppose to last 14 days in your system? I have been using 400mg a week. Not a huge dose but a decent dose plus you don;t need to much Test it's more about Tren,NPP,Masteron,HGH and other exotics.
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i tried come of onec - lasted 3 weeks and then put so much tren in my system i wass ill for a week. :)
LOL
weve all been were
well maybe not the last part :D
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I recently finished a tren test mast cycle and gained quite a bit of fat and wound up being around 13-15% BF at the end of my cycle. Currently cruising 250mg a week of sust and 4 weeks into my cut I was shooting this morning and knocked my vial off my sink and it shattered so now im out of gear and the only thing I have left is dbol 50mg capsules. So far I've gone from 215 to 197 and about 10-11% BF. Now my question is should I just drop all the gear and continue cutting down to around 7% and keep doing what I'm doing, or should I just take whatever dbol I have left to prevent muscle loss until I get more gear. I know this may be a dumb question but I was just curious. Im leaning towards the just coming off completely and dropping BF.
Get some legit gear first
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Get some legit gear first
If he ate excess calories he would have been fat regardless of the steroids he was using.
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Get some legit gear first
ummm... oh look, another "hardgainer ectomorph" who thinks you cant get fat on tren because he eats 3000 kcals a day while "bulking" ::)
maybe you cant get fat when you run 3g tren... on "normal" dosages you can get FAT AS FUCK on tren.
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ummm... oh look, another "hardgainer ectomorph" who thinks you cant get fat on tren because he eats 3000 kcals a day while "bulking" ::)
Lol Jizmo....fuck you :D ;D
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If he ate excess calories he would have been fat regardless of the steroids he was using.
I actually thought people here knew how to eat....i mean if you dont know how to eat...what the fuck are you doing with steroids man
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I hope you aren't the same guy who was asking what gear to use to specifically make his legs bigger.
Where are you even getting these values from, four weeks into a cut and you've gone from "about" 15% bodyfat to 10% after dropping tren and mast and running 250mg of sust a week.
Sounds like you're guessing you're bf%, arent tracking what you eat effectively, dont have a basic idea of calorie maintenence or dieting dropped a load of weight in the way of whatever your gear was causing you to hold during use and now your shrinking.
Go into a deficit and drop the gear and your going to dissappear up your own arse.
I'd suggest coming off and doing actual research on the subject's you pose questions about on here, that would more than likely wind up with you being spoon fed a plethora of shit info from the voices in the sky.
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honestly when cutting my philosophy is to go really all out
you have to make up for the lack of food with gear
take as much as you can handle + clen
starve yourself, do some cardio and see the magic happen
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I hope you aren't the same guy who was asking what gear to use to specifically make his legs bigger.
Where are you even getting these values from, four weeks into a cut and you've gone from "about" 15% bodyfat to 10% after dropping tren and mast and running 250mg of sust a week.
Sounds like you're guessing you're bf%, arent tracking what you eat effectively, dont have a basic idea of calorie maintenence or dieting dropped a load of weight in the way of whatever your gear was causing you to hold during use and now your shrinking.
Go into a deficit and drop the gear and your going to dissappear up your own arse.
I'd suggest coming off and doing actual research on the subject's you pose questions about on here, that would more than likely wind up with you being spoon fed a plethora of shit info from the voices in the sky.
I am in a deficit. Im following another members diet plan that he posted to get into single digits....I think his name is one time hard. I dropped all carbs and eat lean protein and 20-40 grams healthy fats. That along with fasted cardio and EVA I've dropped lot of bodyfat in 4 weeks.
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I first knew how to eat when I suckled on my mums big breast.
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6mo off sounds like a good plan. Sick of sticking pins into my ass/legs every other day. If I don't qualify for the next level at this show I'm going off for a while, otherwise it looks like my off time will be a maximum of 8wks.
Thanks for all the input, guys!
And yes, I'm aware I'll be on TRT for life, I've accepted that, I just want to take breaks for body and mental health's sake. I'd like to know that I can mentally handle shrinking a bit because eventually I'll have to do it anyway.
Why will you be on trt for life? I've used on and off around 14 yrs, I've had 2 yr breaks, I've had a few 6 or more months after runs and always felt ok at the end of it, never shrank down to a twink and still fucked healthly ... Some of you resign your self to this without even knowing
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Why will you be on trt for life? I've used on and off around 14 yrs, I've had 2 yr breaks, I've had a few 6 or more months after runs and always felt ok at the end of it, never shrank down to a twink and still fucked healthly ... Some of you resign your self to this without even knowing
Local have you had blood work done after going off during those 2 yr. breaks? Also what was your schedule (on-off for those 14 years)? The experience of a gear vet is appreciated bro.
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Blood work as in hormone levels, never checked... If i couldn't use my cock or carry any size and was severely depressed I may have, but after the initial shitty period when you shrink a bit as long as you train and eat well and lower your expectations its not so bad, I had a thread on successfully comming off that I might bump
I used moderately running up to shows, never used long runs back then as short courses was what everybody seemed to be doing , 8 weeks on 4 off was the norm, obviously the prep would be an extended run.
After stopped competing after a few injuries in 2006 I chucked gear for almost 3 yr, still trained and looked ok, went back on again just to enjoy my summers, get bigger and shredded then have the winter off.
Id add I never had problems concieving either
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Blood work as in hormone levels, never checked... If i couldn't use my cock or carry any size and was severely depressed I may have, but after the initial shitty period when you shrink a bit as long as you train and eat well and lower your expectations its not so bad, I had a thread on successfully comming off that I might bump
I used moderately running up to shows, never used long runs back then as short courses was what everybody seemed to be doing , 8 weeks on 4 off was the norm, obviously the prep would be an extended run.
After stopped competing after a few injuries in 2006 I chucked gear for almost 3 yr, still trained and looked ok, went back on again just to enjoy my summers, get bigger and shredded then have the winter off.
Id add I never had problems concieving either
What about carrying to full term?
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u can put fat on with tren but not get fat ummmmmmmm
unless your on 400mg and eating double you cals
but on 1g tren only thing that really happens is you can still put water on from diet,
not get fat as such but loose leaness, yes yes u can
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What about carrying to full term?
my gf gave me 2 choices, have an abortion......... or move on my own to Uganda and bring it up
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u can put fat on with tren but not get fat ummmmmmmm
unless your on 400mg and eating double you cals
but on 1g tren only thing that really happens is you can still put water on from diet,
not get fat as such but loose leaness, yes yes u can
i admit, ive gotten fat a couple times on tren
well, not really fat, but fat for someone who is in this game. like 14-15% BF and bloated to shit... still had abs but looked like shit
19 inch arms though, lol ::)
but these were bulks where i was at my parents place during semester break and had all you can eat raids on my moms candy locker on the daily basis for like 6 weeks straight, lol
was only running 350-500mg tren though at that time though
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i admit, ive gotten fat a couple times on tren
well, not really fat, but fat for someone who is in this game. like 14-15% BF and bloated to shit... still had abs but looked like shit
19 inch arms though, lol ::)
but these were bulks where i was at my parents place during semester break and had all you can eat raids on my moms candy locker on the daily basis for like 6 weeks straight, lol
was only running 350-500mg tren though at that time though
This is exactly what happened to me lol
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id say im fat right now, about 11-12% bf
all abs showing but covered in water, when i go past 4ius of hgh with x3 shots of peptides there almost completely gone from the water
but when ur pushing past 230 its an evil u have to learn to deal wid.
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No I'll be doing PCT
Lol!
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Lol!
double lol
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See now how wise you have been to be a fatty for a bulk.
Looking like shit, you will now try to cut body fat coming from a high dose "bulk", good luck with that, "brah".
On the bright side, you have not gained any muscle you wouldn't have gained naturally, you are the classical newcomer ignoramus who will never learn.
Do not confuse your ignorance with a newcomers high and good spiritis, you do not know how far from a proper mindset you are.
Before you don't get the mindset, you are not going anywhere.
So, come off everything, get lean, train natural until you learn diet and training, you look like you don't know either, and then some day start with low doses of steroids.
Your idiotic thread about what the proper age for gh use would be has not escaped my radar, i laughed all the way through.
Hope this helps.
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See now how wise you have been to be a fatty for a bulk.
Looking like shit, you will now try to cut body fat coming from a high dose "bulk", good luck with that, "brah".
On the bright side, you have not gained any muscle you wouldn't have gained naturally, you are the classical newcomer ignoramus who will never learn.
Do not confuse your ignorance with a newcomers high and good spiritis, you do not know how far from a proper mindset you are.
Before you don't get the mindset, you are not going anywhere.
So, come off everything, get lean, train natural until you learn diet and training, you look like you don't know either, and then some day start with low doses of steroids.
Your idiotic thread about what the proper age for gh use would be has not escaped my radar, i laughed all the way through.
Hope this helps.
there are no stupid questions on this forum or subject. One day this guy will nail it down perfectly ! If asking these types of questions will one day make him a better bodybuiler there is no harm. he did start young but bottom line he started and now if he has questions he has the right to ask about dosn't matter matter how great or stupid the question is we will answer it!
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Ive heard of people taking clomid instead of TRT to keep their test levels high. I bet one of those legal research places could get you clomid in less than a week. In my opinion that would be better than nothing. I don't think cutting without gear is a good idea though especially when your coming off of a cycle and your testosterone is low. If I was blasting and cruising and things were going good and I was healthy I personally would do everything in my power to stay on and never go off. I've went on and off cycles a lot and I personally fucking hate it I wouldn't want to go through it again.
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See now how wise you have been to be a fatty for a bulk.
Looking like shit, you will now try to cut body fat coming from a high dose "bulk", good luck with that, "brah".
On the bright side, you have not gained any muscle you wouldn't have gained naturally, you are the classical newcomer ignoramus who will never learn.
Do not confuse your ignorance with a newcomers high and good spiritis, you do not know how far from a proper mindset you are.
Before you don't get the mindset, you are not going anywhere.
So, come off everything, get lean, train natural until you learn diet and training, you look like you don't know either, and then some day start with low doses of steroids.
Your idiotic thread about what the proper age for gh use would be has not escaped my radar, i laughed all the way through.
Hope this helps.
First of all never call me brah again I have never nor will I ever use that word in my life. I came to this forum to have my questions answered not to deal with people like you typing 40 paragraphs trying to bash people. Obviously im not going to know what the proper age to start GH is unless I ask the question am I right? Please refrain from commenting on anything again unless you're answering the question
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tHIS MAN IS FOOOKED IN THE BRAIN, HE ISNT RIGHT.
he one of those people that likes to cause harm mentaly to people or try to bring them down for his own braimn satisfy, but u must know this!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE FUKING UNDERSTAND THIS PLEASE.
people like him.....they are usually fat ugly and dperessed
PLEASE DONT FUKIN ENTERTAIN THEESE PARASITIES IN LIFE - THEY TRUY TO MAKE THEMSELF FEEL BETTER BY SUCKING OUT THE LIFE AROUND THEM,
HIS DAD MAYBE RAPED HIM WHEN YOUNG, OR HIS GIRL CHEATED ON HIM WITH SOMEONE LIKE ME A MUSCLE BOUND GOD.......O
PROMISE YOU KIDS, THIS TYPE OF FOOL YOU SHOULD NOT REPLY TO HIS POSTS ANYTHING HIS WRITE DONT EVEN BAT EYE LID, PRETEND HE NEVER EVEN POSTINGS ON THIS BOARDERS.
and he will die it will kill him inside,
LIKE WITH HGH AND TRENBELONIE - KILL HIM ---------- FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE FROM THE INSIDE OUT
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Yes he is a complete troll and should be ignored, or even better : banned
He doesnt contribute anything just insults people all day, the guy has no life, look at his post history ffs
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tHIS MAN IS FOOOKED IN THE BRAIN, HE ISNT RIGHT.
he one of those people that likes to cause harm mentaly to people or try to bring them down for his own braimn satisfy, but u must know this!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE FUKING UNDERSTAND THIS PLEASE.
people like him.....they are usually fat ugly and dperessed
PLEASE DONT FUKIN ENTERTAIN THEESE PARASITIES IN LIFE - THEY TRUY TO MAKE THEMSELF FEEL BETTER BY SUCKING OUT THE LIFE AROUND THEM,
HIS DAD MAYBE RAPED HIM WHEN YOUNG, OR HIS GIRL CHEATED ON HIM WITH SOMEONE LIKE ME A MUSCLE BOUND GOD.......O
PROMISE YOU KIDS, THIS TYPE OF FOOL YOU SHOULD NOT REPLY TO HIS POSTS ANYTHING HIS WRITE DONT EVEN BAT EYE LID, PRETEND HE NEVER EVEN POSTINGS ON THIS BOARDERS.
and he will die it will kill him inside,
LIKE WITH HGH AND TRENBELONIE - KILL HIM ---------- FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE FROM THE INSIDE OUT
10/10 chance he was raped by his grandpa or male family member