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Man never stepped on the moon, it was a ploy to get the Russians to bankrupt themselves. Discuss.
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Shut the fuck up.
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There is already a movie about moon landing conspiracy, Capricorn One (1977).
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Who gives a fuck. Out of the hundreds of billions spent on the Space program we got Tang, Tempurpedic mattresses and airbags
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Man never stepped on the moon, it was a ploy to get the Russians to bankrupt themselves. Discuss.
Use your common sense bro in this day and age of technology why would you think its impossible to land on the moon, fuck now they are thinking of landing on mars.
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We were on the moon. FACT.
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We were on the moon. FACT.
I agree I think you are a mooner.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/53/166575242_42d47f7720.jpg)
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Man never stepped on the moon, it was a ploy to get the Russians to bankrupt themselves. Discuss.
DC, FO, FY, KY, TIA.
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Use your common sense bro in this day and age of technology why would you think its impossible to land on the moon, fuck now they are thinking of landing on mars.
If we were to mount an expedition to the moon in one year we couldn't do it. Fact. Mars is at least thirty years away.
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If we were to mount an expedition to the moon in one year we couldn't do it. Fact. Mars is at least thirty years away.
Why not?
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Shut the fuck up.
you mad bro? I didn't write the script.
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Why not?
I read somewhere all the technical data has been lost.
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I read somewhere all the technical data has been lost.
;D
Fuck off. ::)
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;D
Fuck off. ::)
Nasa's record keeping was dismal..many parts and equipment were made by outside contractors and engineers many of whom don't exist anymore, many of whom are dead. Everything was on paper back then. A lot has been lost. Nasa basically builds satellites now and is involved in scientific projects, to get anything into space they have to go to the Russians or private companies, kind of ironic isn't it?
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Use your common sense bro in this day and age of technology why would you think its impossible to land on the moon, fuck now they are thinking of landing on mars.
The only way the theory made sense is if they faked the first landing, just to win the race.
Which is entirely plausible.
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I don't think we went up there when they said we did but I believe we went there. And when we got there, someone already there told us to " get the fukc off"...
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There is already a movie about moon landing conspiracy, Capricorn One (1977).
I saw that long time ago and saw it again recently, wasn't as good as I remembered it. OJ was the most inept actor ever, kind of ruined the whole movie. I guess he found his true calling later on.
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Nasa's record keeping was dismal..many parts and equipment were made by outside contractors and engineers many of whom don't exist anymore, many of whom are dead. Everything was on paper back then. A lot has been lost. Nasa basically builds satellites now and is involved in scientific projects, to get anything into space they have to go to the Russians or private companies, kind of ironic isn't it?
keep going... Were the Nasa team former Nazi scientists? What do you know about the black knight satellite??
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keep going... Were the Nasa team former Nazi scientists? What do you know about the black knight satellite??
Haha, that's true Von Braun was the head of the Saturn rocket program, was brought over from the Nazi V rocket program after the war.
I know what the black knight is. You do realize NSA monitors getbig?
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You do realize NSA monitors getbig, right ?
Yes.
In the darkness depravity of my sins, I reach out my hand and touch the invisible rope that binds my neck thst blocks my path to the unseen.
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Haha, that's true Von Braun was the head of the Saturn rocket program, was brought over from the Nazi V rocket program after the war.
I know what the black knight is. You do realize NSA monitors getbig?
wtf, NSA?? can you tell me more about the black knight satellite is? why/when/who is it there? is it really extraterrestrial??
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Do people really believe this conspiracy shit or are they just trolling?
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I read somewhere all the technical data has been lost.
Your lie was exposed in the first two words... to think your username is also a constellation. I'm sure that's a conspiracy too. Dipshit.
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Use your common sense bro in this day and age of technology why would you think its impossible to land on the moon, fuck now they are thinking of landing on mars.
Did they have today's technology back in the 60's?
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Use your common sense bro in this day and age of technology why would you think its impossible to land on the moon, fuck now they are thinking of landing on mars.
This
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Did they have today's technology back in the 60's?
The Egyptians erected obelisks that even with today's modern cranes cannot be lifted. Nobody really knows how it was done, only theories.
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Your lie was exposed in the first two words... to think your username is also a constellation. I'm sure that's a conspiracy too. Dipshit.
Try to make sense if you criticize me. This thread is about the movie Interstellar that states man didn't go to the moon. Just seeing how the masses will react.
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The Egyptians erected obelisks that even with today's modern cranes cannot be lifted. Nobody really knows how it was done, only theories.
Do you have an example? The Romans were able to move and re erect Egyptian obelisks (which is a Greek word, the Egyptians called them tekhenu).
Nonetheless Egyptian architecture is still a modern marvel.
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Man never stepped on the moon, it was a ploy to get the Russians to bankrupt themselves. Discuss.
Please... ::)
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Do you have an example? The Romans were able to move and re erect Egyptian obelisks (which is a Greek word, the Egyptians called them tekhenu).
Nonetheless Egyptian architecture is still a modern marvel.
This is the largest obelisk ever found, near Aswan dam, hundreds of mile from where it was to be placed. Cut from a single piece of stone. Estimated weight is 2 and a half million lbs. and 135 feet long. Never finished for some reason, maybe they ran out of money or was near the end of their reign. Also include a pic of the largest mobile crane with a maximum lifting capacity of 2300 tons. It is making it's largest lift to date which is only half the weight of the obelisk. At 2300 ton capacity you think that could lift it no problem but when you lift something long you actually need two cranes to do it and lots and lot of rigging. There are larger cranes out there, up to 20000 tons but they are gantry type cranes used in ship building and would be useless for such a lift
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This is the largest obelisk ever found, near Aswan dam, hundreds of mile from where it was to be placed. Cut from a single piece of stone. Estimated weight is 2 and a half million lbs. and 135 feet long. Never finished for some reason, maybe they ran out of money or was near the end of their reign. Also include a pic of the largest mobile crane with a maximum lifting capacity of 2300 tons. It is making it's largest lift to date which is only half the weight of the obelisk. At 2300 ton capacity you think that could lift it no problem but when you lift something long you actually need two cranes to do it and lots and lot of rigging. There are larger cranes out there, up to 20000 tons but they are gantry type cranes used in ship building and would be useless for such a lift
So what you're saying is that 1000's of years ago, some idiots spent years carving a 2.5 million pound granite cock and then realised that shizzo didn't have the equipment to make his on site collection of said megadildo so left it there.
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The only way the theory made sense is if they faked the first landing, just to win the race.
Which is entirely plausible.
yeah, we deliver huge lies to the world all of the time, and that's in a day and age of whistleblowers and google satellite, etc. Imagine how fun and easy it was, 50 years ago? And the thought of "Oh, they woudln't do that..."
Our govt has hidden tons of things from us. I was watching a netflix documentary about the germans sinking a bunch of boats on the US atlantic coast during WWII. The US govt never told the public, didn't want to scare people. Germany could have bombed the statue of liberty at any time - chose not to - targeting boats of supplies because that was way more important than rallying americans.
Here's a nice piece on the naval war that took place outside of Georgia, USA, during WWII, completely kept secret from americans - http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/u-boat-attacks-during-world-war-ii
Better article - in 1942, they OWNED our coast - we never heard of it - americans killed weekly -
http://www.americainwwii.com/articles/sharks-in-american-waters/
Americans were getting killed regularly in those attacks - military and commercial ships were sunk and all survived were ordered to STFU about it. COVERING UP DEATHS on a regular basis. Yes, our govt!
Imagine if Iraq or Syria or whoever was BLOWING UP US ships off the coast of NY using submarines - and our govt HID it form us. lol... back then, the leaders just decided we didn't need to know lol.
So who knows about the moon landing - Some of the pics were obviously doctored, you do have to ask why. It sure helped win the Cold War. Nobody died. Could have easily happened that way.
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This is the largest obelisk ever found, near Aswan dam, hundreds of mile from where it was to be placed. Cut from a single piece of stone. Estimated weight is 2 and a half million lbs. and 135 feet long. Never finished for some reason, maybe they ran out of money or was near the end of their reign. Also include a pic of the largest mobile crane with a maximum lifting capacity of 2300 tons. It is making it's largest lift to date which is only half the weight of the obelisk. At 2300 ton capacity you think that could lift it no problem but when you lift something long you actually need two cranes to do it and lots and lot of rigging. There are larger cranes out there, up to 20000 tons but they are gantry type cranes used in ship building and would be useless for such a lift
Very interesting
Thank you
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Man never stepped on the moon, it was a ploy to get the Russians to bankrupt themselves. Discuss.
There is a reflector on the moon's surface placed there by one of the Apollo crews.
NASA uses to measure the accurate distance of the moon to the earth with a laser.
Since we know the speed of light ( 186,000 miles/sec), we can multiply that by the time it takes for the light to bounce back.
( * 1/2 of the round trip time). V x T = distance
Unless you want to believe some ET alien placed the reflector on the moon, we did when we went there.
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I've been looking forward to this for years, ever since Nolan's brother Jonathan wrote it (sometime after his short story that eventually became Christopher's brilliant Memento).
It seemed very heady physics-oriented sci-fi when it first made the rounds, like something from Arthur Clarke. Spielberg was on board first, but years later Nolan was finally cemented to direct. Couldn't have made a better choice. Looking forward to seeing how his amazing imagination depicts time-traveling wormholes and black holes and just the epic scope he'll apply to outer space.
The man is among the greatest living directors with but a single blemish to an otherwise stellar catalogue (though I'm still trying to pretend Dark Knight Rises was just a bad dream). Originally hoped it'd be this generation's 2001, but based on the trailers, I'm now expecting a more earthly family drama with space perhaps secondary.
Zemeckis floored everyone with Contact's stunning space travel footage, but I'm expecting Nolan to top that with visuals we, perhaps, can't even envision. He's that good. This Friday, can't wait.
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Who gives a fuck. Out of the hundreds of billions spent on the Space program we got Tang, Tempurpedic mattresses and airbags
Don't forget the mylar wrapper used to wrap powerbars and other delicious treats.
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Space Travel is centuries away......we got a long way to go...fuck, we're struggling to get to Mars.....imagine being in a fucking space shuttle for 5 months, one way to Mars and another 5 months to get back to earth. we will never make any space vehicle that will be able to travel at the speed of light....that's 5.5 million miles per hour or 186,000 miles a second....no fucking way
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Do you have an example? The Romans were able to move and re erect Egyptian obelisks (which is a Greek word, the Egyptians called them tekhenu).
Nonetheless Egyptian architecture is still a modern marvel.
The Egyptian's formed the first , true bodybuilding federation.
They erected many long , large, stone obelisks ,to honor the male phallic symbol.
Thousands of years later, the IFBB would be born in their image.
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Proof positive of our visit to the moon. I now declare this thread over.
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Proof positive of our visit to the moon. I now declare this thread over.
yes, new evidence we were on the moon.... ;D
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:D. Aha! Even more evident. Case dismissed. We win!
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There is a reflector on the moon's surface placed there by one of the Apollo crews.
NASA uses to measure the accurate distance of the moon to the earth with a laser.
Since we know the speed of light ( 186,000 miles/sec), we can multiply that by the time it takes for the light to bounce back.
( * 1/2 of the round trip time). V x T = distance
Unless you want to believe some ET alien placed the reflector on the moon, we did when we went there.
It's possible we went to the moon. It's also possible that a "reflector" could have easily been fired to the moon - much easier than landing buggies and people.
howard, what has always bothered me is the video of the lunar module taking back off, returning to the orbiting ship. That video has always looked shaky, to say the least.
I could care less either way - maybe we landed, maybe not. But have you seen some of the analysis on video/pics from the landing? The people analyzing the video have found flaws that show, if nothing else, the "live" video and doctored photos are questionable. Maybe we walked it and released a movie, maybe we just orbited, who knows.
But IMO, it's tough for anyone to watch a critique/analysis and still believe 100% of what NASA says about the landing. I invite you, if you have a chance over the long weekend, to watch a video. There may be moments of "wait, why did they manufacture this pic" or "Woah, that really looks fishy".
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Nasa's record keeping was dismal..many parts and equipment were made by outside contractors and engineers many of whom don't exist anymore, many of whom are dead. Everything was on paper back then. A lot has been lost. Nasa basically builds satellites now and is involved in scientific projects, to get anything into space they have to go to the Russians or private companies, kind of ironic isn't it?
Do you have anything at all credible to back up this shite you are spouting.
You are just parroting shit you have read on the internet.
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It's possible we went to the moon. It's also possible that a "reflector" could have easily been fired to the moon - much easier than landing buggies and people.
howard, what has always bothered me is the video of the lunar module taking back off, returning to the orbiting ship. That video has always looked shaky, to say the least.
I could care less either way - maybe we landed, maybe not. But have you seen some of the analysis on video/pics from the landing? The people analyzing the video have found flaws that show, if nothing else, the "live" video and doctored photos are questionable. Maybe we walked it and released a movie, maybe we just orbited, who knows.
But IMO, it's tough for anyone to watch a critique/analysis and still believe 100% of what NASA says about the landing. I invite you, if you have a chance over the long weekend, to watch a video. There may be moments of "wait, why did they manufacture this pic" or "Woah, that really looks fishy".
I don't know , but it's possible NAS went exploring for dingleberries around Uranus. ;)
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Found this on the net, seems interesting for this thread :
How Stanley Kubrick faked the Apollo Moon Landings
http://realitysandwich.com/23226/kubrick_apollo/
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Found this on the net, seems interesting for this thread :
How Stanley Kubrick faked the Apollo Moon Landings
http://realitysandwich.com/23226/kubrick_apollo/
I found this about how Phil Heath won the Olympia
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2014-olympia-mr-olympia-prejudging-report.html
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Nasa's record keeping was dismal..many parts and equipment were made by outside contractors and engineers many of whom don't exist anymore, many of whom are dead. Everything was on paper back then. A lot has been lost. Nasa basically builds satellites now and is involved in scientific projects, to get anything into space they have to go to the Russians or private companies, kind of ironic isn't it?
These 'Wow, did I just blow your mind or what with my outlandish horseshit?' end questions always leave me comically baffled. You spout a glob of foiler site irrelevance and then wrap it up with some smug 'Can't pull the wool over my eyes' rhetorical question, like you've convinced anyone of anything. Just makes you appear desperate to connect with the one other equally deluded ignoramus on the board, willing to sacrifice his common sense and dignity for a bit of ridiculously improbable revisionism. Kinda nailed it, didn't I?
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These 'Wow, did I just blow your mind or what with my outlandish horseshit?' end questions always leave me comically baffled. You spout a glob of foiler site irrelevance and then wrap it up with some smug 'Can't pull the wool over my eyes' rhetorical question, like you've convinced anyone of anything. Just makes you appear desperate to connect with the one other equally deluded ignoramus on the board, willing to sacrifice his common sense and dignity for a bit of ridiculously improbable revisionism. Kinda nailed it, didn't I?
You certainly did sir, well done ;D
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I found this about how Phil Heath won the Olympia
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2014-olympia-mr-olympia-prejudging-report.html
Maybe thats faked, too ;D
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Do you have anything at all credible to back up this shite you are spouting.
You are just parroting shit you have read on the internet.
Calm down Simplton. I didn't actually work for Nasa, or have an inside track to top secret files. Of course I only know what I read, same as you. We're just a bunch of knuckleheads on a bodybuilding forum discussing world affairs. I don't know if we stepped on the moon or not. The government tells me we did so why should I not believe them? I'm sure you believe every version of the rise and fall of the British empire your government tells you with out question.
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Calm down Simplton. I didn't actually work for Nasa, or have an inside track to top secret files. Of course I only know what I read, same as you. We're just a bunch of knuckleheads on a bodybuilding forum discussing world affairs. I don't know if we stepped on the moon or not. The government tells me we did so why should I not believe them? I'm sure you believe every version of the rise and fall of the British empire your government tells you with out question.
Great, glad we have cleared that up you fucking buffoon.
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These 'Wow, did I just blow your mind or what with my outlandish horseshit?' end questions always leave me comically baffled. You spout a glob of foiler site irrelevance and then wrap it up with some smug 'Can't pull the wool over my eyes' rhetorical question, like you've convinced anyone of anything. Just makes you appear desperate to connect with the one other equally deluded ignoramus on the board, willing to sacrifice his common sense and dignity for a bit of ridiculously improbable revisionism. Kinda nailed it, didn't I?
So you will be walking out of the movie of your idol when they state that the moon landing was fake? It's Nolans statement, not mine. I'm on the fence, somethings don't add up. Sorry for questioning the status quo. Carry on.
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Great, glad we have cleared that up you fucking buffoon.
You are off my Christmas list.
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You are off my Christmas list.
Im pretty sure I was never on it.
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Who gives a fuck. Out of the hundreds of billions spent on the Space program we got Tang, Tempurpedic mattresses and airbags
& space pen ;D
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We were on the moon. FACT.
Still no Wiggs astronauts on the moon :'( :'( :'(
;D
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Space Travel is centuries away......we got a long way to go...fuck, we're struggling to get to Mars.....imagine being in a fucking space shuttle for 5 months, one way to Mars and another 5 months to get back to earth. we will never make any space vehicle that will be able to travel at the speed of light....that's 5.5 million miles per hour or 186,000 miles a second....no fucking way
In 1986 NASA took a female high school teacher and threw her in the Space Shuttle...That move alone should tell you that it's just a dog and pony show. Way too many brilliant minds work at NASA for the space shuttle sham to be their only thing that goes into space.
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It's possible we went to the moon. It's also possible that a "reflector" could have easily been fired to the moon - much easier than landing buggies and people.
howard, what has always bothered me is the video of the lunar module taking back off, returning to the orbiting ship. That video has always looked shaky, to say the least.
I could care less either way - maybe we landed, maybe not. But have you seen some of the analysis on video/pics from the landing? The people analyzing the video have found flaws that show, if nothing else, the "live" video and doctored photos are questionable. Maybe we walked it and released a movie, maybe we just orbited, who knows.
But IMO, it's tough for anyone to watch a critique/analysis and still believe 100% of what NASA says about the landing. I invite you, if you have a chance over the long weekend, to watch a video. There may be moments of "wait, why did they manufacture this pic" or "Woah, that really looks fishy".
I hear ya, but we really landed on the moon , on Apollo 11, 12, 13 ( *accident),then 14,15, 16 and 17.
A 1 shot hoax, is tough, but might have a slim shot of pulling it off?????????????
BUT, what about ALL of the Apollo missions over a few years. Think about it bro.
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So you will be walking out of the movie of your idol when they state that the moon landing was fake? It's Nolans statement, not mine. I'm on the fence, somethings don't add up. Sorry for questioning the status quo. Carry on.
Unless it's a documentary, contrary to what I've been told, pretty sure I'll sit and enjoy. Real to you, though? Unfortunate.
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In a world of free people authority must always be maintained by lies. That's the starting point.
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These 'Wow, did I just blow your mind or what with my outlandish horseshit?' end questions always leave me comically baffled. You spout a glob of foiler site irrelevance and then wrap it up with some smug 'Can't pull the wool over my eyes' rhetorical question, like you've convinced anyone of anything. Just makes you appear desperate to connect with the one other equally deluded ignoramus on the board, willing to sacrifice his common sense and dignity for a bit of ridiculously improbable revisionism. Kinda nailed it, didn't I?
The Ugly taking ownership. Damn, that was fierce.
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The Ugly taking ownership. Damn, that was fierce.
It was probably the highlight of his year. Glad I could help. ;D
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It was probably the highlight of his year. Glad I could help. ;D
Thanks, man. Feared I was fastly approaching yet another highlight-free year. Saved by a generous foiler, much appreciated.
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i can't believe some people still think that pyramids, stone henge etc were built by humans
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I really like free thinkers and people who question authority.
However, conspiracy theorists(and those that follow them) can fuck themselves and then die.
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I really like free thinkers and people who question authority.
However, conspiracy theorists(and those that follow them) can fuck themselves and then die.
I'm so with you here, buddy.
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The Egyptians erected obelisks that even with today's modern cranes cannot be lifted. Nobody really knows how it was done, only theories.
Your mother lifted erected things with her mouth.
Do you need a good place for English classes, bro?
You know, your bad spelling, in the days of spell check no less, do not exactly reinforce your conspiracy views with credibility lol.
You can't even spell, yet you are dishing out bro science as if it was generally accepted mainstream views.
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i can't believe some people still think that pyramids, stone henge etc were built by humans
Who else built them, you think?
Chimps and dogs?
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It's easy to prove the human moon landing was real. Just send up another spacecraft..... oh shit...
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It's easy to prove the human moon landing was real. Just send up another spacecraft..... oh shit...
Hey you offspring of 5 generations inbreeding.
Have you been awared of.......google "apollo landing site pics LRO"
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They should put a prison on the moon..now that would be cool
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It's easy to prove the human moon landing was real. Just send up another spacecraft..... oh shit...
And how would we prove that one was real? The truth is there's nothing more to be learned there. See what you're doing, but it implies all the shuttle missions were faked as well. Shuttle technology certainly could have repeated the moon landing, but it's apparently unnecessary, and it wouldn't satisfy your crowd regardless.
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If you guys think that people who claim the moon landing was faked are nuts you should read about people who actually believe the earth is flat.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
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If you guys think that people who claim the moon landing was faked are nuts you should read about people who actually believe the earth is flat.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
There was a guy on a forum i was on a few years ago arguing that all the animals on Noahs Arc had solar panels built into them to create energy because they wouldn't have had enough food.
Someone actually pointed out to him that the animals were below deck and as such wouldn't have had much benefit from solar panels
I dont know which poster was the dumbest.
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There was a guy on a forum i was on a few years ago arguing that all the animals on Noahs Arc had solar panels built into them to create energy because they wouldn't have had enough food.
Someone actually pointed out to him that the animals were below deck and as such wouldn't have had much benefit from solar panels
I dont know which poster was the dumbest.
lol
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lol
Not the arc, the actual animals had solar panels. ;D
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There was a guy on a forum i was on a few years ago arguing that all the animals on Noahs Arc had solar panels built into them to create energy because they wouldn't have had enough food.
Someone actually pointed out to him that the animals were below deck and as such wouldn't have had much benefit from solar panels
I dont know which poster was the dumbest.
Internet has just given the human madness/delusion pandemic a forum for exposure. Although, with all the fringe foiler sites, it might have helped create it, too.
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11211.0#.VF_55zSG80E
Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?
The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind. This acceleration does not violate physics and according to Einstein's theory of special relativity, we can accelerate forever without reaching the speed of light.
There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.
ROFL
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Try to make sense if you criticize me. This thread is about the movie Interstellar that states man didn't go to the moon. Just seeing how the masses will react.
Howard made a point I was going to say about the reflector. Then there were the rocks they brought back. You know, with no water and not from earth. I have gone into this here before. You know supersonic rockets were made using slave labour by germany at the end of ww 2 with fuck all resources. Usa stole scientist who headed v2 project, von braun, who made the saturn rocket. So 24 years after ww2 and with immense resources, after satellites that could spy were in space, you think landing on the moon with a man (a pointless exercise) was beyond the reach of man? There is video, physical proof etc yet you contest it because some retards make unsupported claims and find a fellowship on the internet?
Do you think 9/11 was a us govt plot? Honestly.
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Some truths I learned from interstellar:
- if science doesn't work, mysticism will do... Just be sure to call it science anyway!
- don't worry if your soundtrack only has one good song, you can just keep playing it until everyone forgets the rest
- if you want to star in an 'art blockbuster', you better learn to affect a funny voice
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Interstellar is more about humans than stars. With some reflections on time and space there to give that Nolan "spice" that he likes for his movies.
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Space Travel is centuries away......we got a long way to go...fuck, we're struggling to get to Mars.....imagine being in a fucking space shuttle for 5 months, one way to Mars and another 5 months to get back to earth. we will never make any space vehicle that will be able to travel at the speed of light....that's 5.5 million miles per hour or 186,000 miles a second....no fucking way
And when the astronauts got back from their trip, traveling at the speed of light...
(http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/movie-endings-filmboy.jpg)