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Title: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 10, 2014, 01:53:37 PM
I've been off for a couple monhts.  Read through some old posts and GH15 made a quote that has stuck with me, he said "I'd never workout without hormones, waste of time without them.  I was going to get back to the gym and start my next round in Feb, but now I'm thinking what's the point?  I'll spend 3 months aching away lifting but then once on is when I'll see the real gains.
Anyone take time off from the gym while also off hormones?
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: kh300 on November 10, 2014, 01:59:07 PM
I've never touched a steroid. I go to the gym because I love the iron. If you go to the gym just impress people with your muscles you got a serious problem that only uberman can help you with.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:05:10 PM
I've never touched a steroid. I go to the gym because I love the iron. If you go to the gym just impress people with your muscles you got a serious problem that only uberman can help you with.
anyone who says he "loves the iron" while getting no results has severe mental problems
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: BigRo on November 10, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
lol ^
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: da_vinci on November 10, 2014, 02:08:24 PM
LOl...

Lifting while "off" is like masturbation - kind of good, but still not a real thing.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
lol ^
that's like a prisoner saying he loves forced unpaid labor and anyone working for a salary is nuts and has problems
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolicguru on November 10, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
anyone who says he "loves the iron" while getting no results has severe mental problems

agreed
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolicguru on November 10, 2014, 02:11:30 PM
I've never touched a steroid. I go to the gym because I love the iron. If you go to the gym just impress people with your muscles you got a serious problem that only uberman can help you with.

This is probably the DUMBEST thing I've heard all year,  idiotic quote of the year,
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
This is probably the DUMBEST thing I've heard all year,  idiotic quote of the year,
it's not ignorance, it's severe denial

at night as he stands in front of the mirror he weeps and goes for the bottle of scotch
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 10, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
I've never touched a steroid. I go to the gym because I love the iron. If you go to the gym just impress people with your muscles you got a serious problem that only uberman can help you with.


This ^^
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
anyone who says he "loves the iron" while getting no results has severe mental problems
You take steroids and lift and have landscaper's physique.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
You take steroids and lift and have landscaper's physique.

you can only dream of a physique like mine

fact

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:16:02 PM
that's like a prisoner saying he loves forced unpaid labor and anyone working for a salary is nuts and has problems
You work and get fired because people don't like you.

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolicguru on November 10, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
Mr. kh300, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read your post. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
what natural lifters fail to realize is that lifting weights has literally no point whatsoever without drugs


you would basically get the same results if not better by running a few laps, do a few pushups and chin ups once a week


i really cringe when i see natural idiots targeting specific parts of muscle etc


see them do single arm overhead dumbel extensions with 20lbs dumbel as if their life depend on it brain aneurysm one rep away


fools should stop clogging the gym with their futile attempts to grow 15" arms
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on November 10, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
I've been off for a couple monhts.  Read through some old posts and GH15 made a quote that has stuck with me, he said "I'd never workout without hormones, waste of time without them.  I was going to get back to the gym and start my next round in Feb, but now I'm thinking what's the point?  I'll spend 3 months aching away lifting but then once on is when I'll see the real gains.
Anyone take time off from the gym while also off hormones?

I'd like to debate GH15 on this, but the hormones he defended have rendered him unavailable for comment......
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:20:36 PM
you can only dream of a physique like mine

fact


you like a human dildo.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
you like a human dildo.
and you look like a bag of smashed assholes

what a funny coincidence


Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
I mainly go to the gym to stay healthy and in shape. I have an irrational fear of developing cancer or a neurodegenerative disorder (MS, parkinsons, alzheimers, etc.). Thus, I try to stave off any of these issues as best as I can with fitness and eating right.

As a natural, I do not expect to be a monster. As long as I can keep making some gains, no matter how slow and steady and still look good when I am 50, then I will continue to go to the gym. I can't be young and totally fit forever, however I do not want to be the 70 year old man who can barely walk up the stairs and needs to have someone wipe my butt for me. That's enough motivation for me.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
there are two type of gains naturals make

-get leaner and more defined

-get fat and bloated


gain actual muscle however never seems to happen


in their minds it does however


more evidence natural bb is a psychiatric disorder
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
what natural lifters fail to realize is that lifting weights has literally no point whatsoever without drugs


you would basically get the same results if not better by running a few laps, do a few pushups and chin ups once a week


i really cringe when i see natural idiots targeting specific parts of muscle etc


see them do single arm overhead dumbel extensions with 20lbs dumbel as if their life depend on it brain aneurysm one rep away


fools should stop clogging the gym with their futile attempts to grow 15" arms

The funny thing is that even for someone who juices, you still look pretty small. You don't look like bigro or hazbin. So, youre even a bigger idiot than the natural. Hope this helps, shitty father.  :D :D
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: BigRo on November 10, 2014, 02:26:23 PM
a natty in vegas...
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
The funny thing is that even for someone who juices, you still look pretty small. You don't look like bigro or hazbin. So, youre even a bigger idiot than the natural. Hope this helps, shitty father.  :D :D

i think you dont have a clue how big these guys are

20"+ arms 240-260lbs
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:27:14 PM
and you look like a bag of smashed assholes

what a funny coincidence



A balding dented head, an acne speckled bag of bones, pale white cadaver complexion, unemployable john.

FTW

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
i think you dont have a clue how big these guys are

20"+ arms 240-260lbs

Yeah, no shit, genius. If youre going to take steroids, at least look like you take steroids, like bigro or hazbin. Even other uses who are not as big as bigro or hazbin look better than you. You look small for a user, yet you keep using. To me, that makes you a bigger idiot than a natural. Then again, what can I expect from a man who ignores his medically ill child.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:29:17 PM
Yeah, no shit, genius. If youre going to take steroids, at least look like you take steroids, like bigro or hazbin. You look small for a user, yet you keep using. To me, that makes you a bigger idiot than a natural. Then again, what can I expect from a man who ignores his medically ill child.
typical bitter natural talk

are you natural?

u sound like one

lol
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: kh300 on November 10, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
I mainly go to the gym to stay healthy and in shape. I have an irrational fear of developing cancer or a neurodegenerative disorder (MS, parkinsons, alzheimers, etc.). Thus, I try to stave off any of these issues as best as I can with fitness and eating right.

As a natural, I do not expect to be a monster. As long as I can keep making some gains, no matter how slow and steady and still look good when I am 50, then I will continue to go to the gym. I can't be young and totally fit forever, however I do not want to be the 70 year old man who can barely walk up the stairs and needs to have someone wipe my butt for me. That's enough motivation for me.

Exactly. I have no issues with anyone taking steroids. For me its staying in shape, healthy, and relieving stress. I simply like lifting weights. I love racing motorcycles, but I wouldn't say I have to be doing 150mph. I still get on my 250 and put around cuz I love motorcycling.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
typical bitter natural talk

are you natural?

u sound like one

lol

Or maybe youre just pissed because you do not have good genetics for bodybuilding and no matter how much sauce you take, you will still look like shit.

You talk about taking juice like its an accomplishment. Anyone can hop on the sauce. And I hate to break it to you, but if I jumped on the sauce, id destroy your twiggy physique.  :D
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
Exactly. I have no issues with anyone taking steroids. For me its staying in shape, healthy, and relieving stress. I simply like lifting weights. I love racing motorcycles, but I wouldn't say I have to be doing 150mph. I still get on my 250 and put around cuz I love motorcycling.

Agreed.

People have a very strange view of this "sport."
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
Yeah, no shit, genius. If youre going to take steroids, at least look like you take steroids, like bigro or hazbin. Even other uses who are not as big as bigro or hazbin look better than you. You look small for a user, yet you keep using. To me, that makes you a bigger idiot than a natural. Then again, what can I expect from a man who ignores his medically ill child.
Don't forget that the knucklehead has no friends, no career, no woman. His entire existence is devoted to bodybuilding and he looks like that.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:32:37 PM
Or maybe youre just pissed because you do not have good genetics for bodybuilding and no matter how much sauce you take, you will still look like shit.

You talk about taking juice like its an accomplishment. Anyone can hop on the sauce. And I hate to break it to you, but if I jumped on the sauce, id destroy your twiggy physique.  :D
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Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SuperTed on November 10, 2014, 02:32:43 PM
You will never be able to achieve greatness as a natural but the difference between being a maxed out natty and totally untrained is still significant enough to make training without drugs a worthwhile endeavour.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:33:13 PM
Don't forget that the knucklehead has no friends, no career, no woman. His entire existence is devoted to bodybuilding and he looks like that.


He even ignores his child. You would expect if you go to that extent, you'd be pretty huge!!!
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolicguru on November 10, 2014, 02:35:15 PM
Truth be TOLD ;D
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
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What's even more funnier is that you ignore your child and dedicate a huge portion of your life to liftin and you still cant achieve 18" arms.  :D :D :D

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: dustin on November 10, 2014, 02:37:27 PM
Just shift gears, bro. You won't be big and ripped, but hey, you can get yourself in good health. I know it's a novel concept, but you can actually go to the gym for purposes other than aesthetics. When I came off it felt terrible, but I used that frustration to do lots of cardio and got my body in good shape. I got respectably lean, but the size definitely wasn't there. Just concern yourself with a new goal, then thrash your body whenever you do get back on. You'll respond a lot better, especially if you work on your natural/clean foundation for a good while.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
i think if you go off

you should go to another gym


that will avoid people reminding you how much size you lost


Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 10, 2014, 02:39:01 PM
That's bullshit. I've known dudes that were natural who work out all the time and are big and ripped.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
i think if you go off

you should go to another gym


that will avoid people reminding you how much size you lost



You can't get laid
 Bahahahaha
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:44:20 PM
You can't get laid
 Bahahahaha
???

not only is that false

but it's funny you probably consider getting laid an accomplishment


well i guess for a guy like you with a face only a mother can love it kind of is ;D
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:44:46 PM
What's even more funnier is that you ignore your child and dedicate a huge portion of your life to liftin and you still cant achieve 18" arms.  :D :D :D

Hope this helps.
Dude's got no biceps. Weird body. Bald head.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
???

not only is that false

but it's funny you probably consider getting laid an accomplishment


well i guess for a guy like you with a face only a mother can love it kind of is ;D
Dude, you're a john

End of story
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:46:54 PM
Dude, you're a john

End of story
u too broke to afford fine hookers i see

only wanking for you

no wonder u so mad
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 10, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
u too broke to afford fine hookers i see

only wanking for you

no wonder u so mad
I've seen your cheesy apartment in your photos, along with your shitty wardrobe. You don't know what money is. If you did, you wouldn't hand it to negro whores.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 02:50:40 PM
I've seen your cheesy apartment in your photos, along with your shitty wardrobe. You don't know what money is. If you did, you wouldn't hand it to negro whores.
you live with your mother and dress up like a woman when exploring her wardrobe


i think my situation is better, considering that
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 10, 2014, 02:57:03 PM
I have heard so many guys say it feels like a waste of time working out with out steroids. That is seriously sad. Some of the guys on this board are using steroids and no one would ever accuse them of being a juicer because they don't have any muscles to speak of.

I'm into physical culture and being in shape. I lift and run hard. Training is part of my life. It's who I am. It a tribute to my past when my butt was on the line and physicality was a requirement of survival.

Guys that juice to have their temporary athletically cosmetic muscles to get compliments from the ignorant are deep down insecure children crying for attention.  They need affirmation that they are a man.

Yes, you can get a really good build naturally. You can never compete with a juicer but just wait. The juicer due to arrest, health or finances will come off. That's when they have to take out that crumbled up picture of them self out of their wallet or show you on their cell phone when they had muscles. One guy was showing me a picture. I told him I don't need it you're right in front of me and you're out of shape.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Slik on November 10, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
there are two type of gains naturals make

-get leaner and more defined

-get fat and bloated


gain actual muscle however never seems to happen


in their minds it does however


more evidence natural bb is a psychiatric disorder
please!!! U n the trainer must meld your vast knowledge and experience n write a book on weightlifting. I'll be first in line to buy.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
I have heard so many guys say it feels like a waste of time working out with out steroids. That is seriously sad. Some of the guys on this board are using steroids and no one would ever accuse them of being a juicer because they don't have any muscles to speak of.

I'm into physical culture and being in shape. I lift and run hard. Training is part of my life. It's who I am. It a tribute to my past when my butt was on the line and physicality was a requirement of survival.

Guys that juice to have their temporary athletically cosmetic muscles to get compliments from the ignorant are deep down insecure children crying for attention.  They need affirmation that they are a man.

Yes, you can get a really good build naturally. You can never compete with a juicer but just wait. The juicer due to arrest, health or finances will come off. That's when they have to take out that crumbled up picture of them self out of their wallet or show you on their cell phone when they had muscles. One guy was showing me a picture. I told him I don't need it you're right in front of me and you're out of shape.













Why do so many 'Naturals' think they are Better than some one who uses performance enhancers,
I have also trained Natural & competed & won at a national level, My Regret is I wasn't aware / smart enough at the time to use Performance Enhancers As I would of Stood some chance of winning at World championship level.

If you choose not use Good for you Sir.
Only do not think you are Better or superior either physically or mentally To Me.

I Respect your choices Try & respect other People's.

Peace.

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: MP on November 10, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
I've been off for a couple monhts.  Read through some old posts and GH15 made a quote that has stuck with me, he said "I'd never workout without hormones, waste of time without them.  I was going to get back to the gym and start my next round in Feb, but now I'm thinking what's the point?  I'll spend 3 months aching away lifting but then once on is when I'll see the real gains.
Anyone take time off from the gym while also off hormones?

I'd spin this right around and ask: What's the point in being on the sauce unless you're a:
a. competitive bodybuilder
b. elite level athlete
c. highly-paid actor

Average guys who are saucing past their 20s are just risking health, and for what?

We've seen it time and time again on here. Guys who wait too long to go off end up in ruins. Doesn't take a genius to see it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: calfzilla on November 10, 2014, 04:12:50 PM
i think if you go off

you should go to another gym


that will avoid people reminding you how much size you lost




This is true: 

Once at the gym I saw a guy that was in my college weight lifting class couple years ago. Back then he was on the sauce and huge, looked great.  I went up to him and said hello, he had shrunk a lot, obviously went off. He got a depressed look on his face and made a comment like " yeah I was bigger back then..."
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: anabolichalo on November 10, 2014, 04:15:32 PM
This is true: 

Once at the gym I saw a guy that was in my college weight lifting class couple years ago. Back then he was on the sauce and huge, looked great.  I went up to him and said hello, he had shrunk a lot, obviously went off. He got a depressed look on his face and made a comment like " yeah I was bigger back then..."
also go clubbing in other clubs where the bouncers and the whores dont know u used to be big ::)
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: TheShape. on November 10, 2014, 04:51:14 PM
I know I'll never be huge as a natural, but I can still be ripped and strong. I have a fun time working out and it relieves a lot of stress from my life. Anyone who actually thinks "lifting weights without drugs is useless" is a full blown retard. Pure laziness...
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 10, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
The funny thing is that even for someone who juices, you still look pretty small. You don't look like bigro or hazbin. So, youre even a bigger idiot than the natural. Hope this helps, shitty father.  :D :D

Insulting his physique AND his parenting skills in the span of 4 tersely-written sentences.....I think anabolichalo's post may have hit close to home  :D
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 10, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Insulting his physique AND his parenting skills in the span of 4 tersely-written sentences.....I think anabolichalo's post may have hit close to home  :D

No, it didn't hit close to home.

Most of it is due to his overall personality being annoying and a troll. I do not care about bodybuilding that much to get mad, I just find him irksome. It probably would have not elicited the same response in me if it was someone else.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: che on November 10, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
I destroy anabolichomo and I'm 100% natural , I hope this helps.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Lustral on November 10, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
Depends why you lift. If you do another activity and stay fit all well and good but psychologically it can be tough if your persona depends on being big or it will affect you when people say "wow you lost a lot of size" - which they will.

if you go off and lift to prevent being a fat bloater fair play. The loss of strength pissed me off more than size. You get softer and smaller and have to eat better even to maintain that lesser look. Also you lose sex drive and can get depressed but again it comes down to psychological make up and why you lift in first place. If it is for others, like halo and most, it will be devastating.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: The Scott on November 10, 2014, 05:40:13 PM
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It doth appear none of the real policemen are paying any attention to the consummate attention whore that is Coleman.  That sad sack of shit couldn't run down a dung beetle with a full load without first gassing out.  Looks like he "gassed out" on himself and is fanning the stench from his flared nostrils.

Halo, sometimes you really are one pathetic waste of DNA.  I'd tell you to grow a pair but they'd just atrophy from lack of use.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 06:00:09 PM
also go clubbing in other clubs where the bouncers and the whores dont know u used to be big ::)
Not a problem for you. You're not big.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: thebrink on November 10, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
You work and get fired because people don't like you.



lolz
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Slik on November 10, 2014, 06:52:36 PM












Why do so many 'Naturals' think they are Better than some one who uses performance enhancers,
I have also trained Natural & competed & won at a national level, My Regret is I wasn't aware / smart enough at the time to use Performance Enhancers As I would of Stood some chance of winning at World championship level.

If you choose not use Good for you Sir.
Only do not think you are Better or superior either physically or mentally To Me.

I Respect your choices Try & respect other People's.

Peace.


yeah i don't give up a shit who uses and who doesn't..I get along with everybody. I do have a pet peeve about people who shamelessly promote and put down others who do drugs while they r shooting it right up the ass.  Can't stand those types.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 10, 2014, 07:11:10 PM
I'd spin this right around and ask: What's the point in being on the sauce unless you're a:
a. competitive bodybuilder
b. elite level athlete
c. highly-paid actor

Average guys who are saucing past their 20s are just risking health, and for what?

We've seen it time and time again on here. Guys who wait too long to go off end up in ruins. Doesn't take a genius to see it's just not worth it.

I believe many juiced up guys believe that their muscles will some how make them rich. Sorry, kids, not gonna happen. No one except a gay sugar daddy is gonna pay you train and shoot up drugs.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 10, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
I believe many juiced up guys believe that their muscles will some how make them rich. Sorry, kids, not gonna happen. No one except a gay sugar daddy is gonna pay you train and shoot up drugs.


We all know that bodybuilders hold countless delusions, but I don't think I've ever heard a single one say "yeah I'm gonna juice up to get rich"

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Slik on November 10, 2014, 07:25:42 PM
I believe many juiced up guys believe that their muscles will some how make them rich. Sorry, kids, not gonna happen. No one except a gay sugar daddy is gonna pay you train and shoot up drugs.

sts question. How would having muscles make u rich?  It's not the 80s anymore the hollywood muscle man novelty has worn off. Wasn't aware there was a population of kids thinking this way today.

Memo. In the real world no one gives a shit if u have muscles. By real world I mean "how r u going to help this organization" etc.....work....business etc.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: dustin on November 10, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
I believe many juiced up guys believe that their muscles will some how make them rich. Sorry, kids, not gonna happen. No one except a gay sugar daddy is gonna pay you train and shoot up drugs.


lol I don't know anyone who thinks like that. Most people just realize that they're EXTREMELY accessible and effective, so they figure "why the fuck not"? Some just do orals, but others man up and take the shots. The serious ones who enjoy it and see benefits from it usually stick with it and keep to themselves. While the other guys stop, come off and shrink and stop training all together.

It's tough getting in the gym when you're shrinking, but take it on the chin. It's not the end of the world. I always try getting in shape BEFORE coming off so it's less of a struggle. You'll still feel like shit, but you won't look as bad. I actually looked really good at one point, but it was much harder and there was less size and extreme conditioning. That's why I love juice. It gives you size and conditioning that's just not realistic while natural. But don't take advantage of that fact and get lazy, otherwise coming off will feel absolutely horrible. :-X
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: jephrius on November 10, 2014, 08:29:24 PM
You will never hear a steroid/PED user admit you can bodybuild without drugs. Think of what theybhave invested in this: compromised health, dying younger, spending money, breaking the law, etc. They have sold themselves on doing these drugs, based on the premise it's the only way they can get results. Sadly, most of these guys look like ass and don't get any benefit in the real world. These guys have a warped system of values and no voice of reason on an inernet forum will make them see the light.


Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: C-BuZz on November 10, 2014, 09:04:26 PM
We all know that bodybuilders hold countless delusions, but I don't think I've ever heard a single one say "yeah I'm gonna juice up to get rich"



It goes without saying ie: Arnold, Sly, The Rock. Where exactly would these guy's be without injecting steroids into there asses every day? Then telling real natties "Be the hardest worker in the room" LMFAO... Oh brother.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: AmonRa on November 11, 2014, 01:05:03 AM
what natural lifters fail to realize is that lifting weights has literally no point whatsoever without drugs


you would basically get the same results if not better by running a few laps, do a few pushups and chin ups once a week


i really cringe when i see natural idiots targeting specific parts of muscle etc


see them do single arm overhead dumbel extensions with 20lbs dumbel as if their life depend on it brain aneurysm one rep away


fools should stop clogging the gym with their futile attempts to grow 15" arms

I agree with this.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: latiuss on November 11, 2014, 02:46:34 AM
This is a good tbread. I didnt like training when off, feeling sore etc none of the instant recovery and constant pump, shit was depressing to say the least. It definately ruined natty lifting for me. But lifting enhanced is so much better so i dont care lol.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: DanM on November 11, 2014, 02:50:57 AM
To be so dependent on hormones that you not even dare workout with out them is a very sad state for one to be in
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 11, 2014, 05:07:31 AM
It goes without saying ie: Arnold, Sly, The Rock. Where exactly would these guy's be without injecting steroids into there asses every day? Then telling real natties "Be the hardest worker in the room" LMFAO... Oh brother.

Of course, you're right.

Hardcore bodybuilders don't want to work. It's as simple as that. They think their training and juicing should be enough to support themselves. The miscalculation is in the fact that training and juicing is something you do for yourself. You make money by doing things for other people, fixing their cars, clearing their toilet stoppages etc.

It's no accident that so many bodybuilders go through life without a pot to piss in.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: heenok on November 11, 2014, 05:08:56 AM
i will keep lifting untill i physicly cant anymore, juice or not

gear just make training much more rewarding
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Beckenbauer on November 11, 2014, 05:25:58 AM
If your only hobby, talent, focus is bodybuilding then most will agree off juice is pointless. Or it's just an addition to what u focus, for other sports, work or health. Then u care less if u juice or not.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
You will never hear a steroid/PED user admit you can bodybuild without drugs. Think of what theybhave invested in this: compromised health, dying younger, spending money, breaking the law, etc. They have sold themselves on doing these drugs, based on the premise it's the only way they can get results. Sadly, most of these guys look like ass and don't get any benefit in the real world. These guys have a warped system of values and no voice of reason on an inernet forum will make them see the light.
















Wrong . 
In my previous post I stated I have competed at a high level without having used performance enhancers.
No doubt at all that this can be done.

You can achieve a Very Good physique & be strong Without using.

I make a choice to do what I do, as I am free to do so,
Like wise others can choose to do so or not.

I am not breaking any laws in my country by using.

Peace.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: Lustral on November 11, 2014, 04:20:19 PM
If your only hobby, talent, focus is bodybuilding then most will agree off juice is pointless. Or it's just an addition to what u focus, for other sports, work or health. Then u care less if u juice or not.

I mentioned this but you are only thinking about physical aspect. Juicing affects people psychologically. You are on edge, bigger, stronger and when people recognise you for it, it can become central to who you are. Then it isn't a matter of coming off, you have a heap of mental issues to deal with if your esteem comes from others.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: thebrink on November 11, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
I mentioned this but you are only thinking about physical aspect. Juicing affects people psychologically. You are on edge, bigger, stronger and when people recognise you for it, it can become central to who you are. Then it isn't a matter of coming off, you have a heap of mental issues to deal with if your esteem comes from others.

This is so sad and depressing and so are you. Just so you know many having read this will soon be placed on a murder suicide watch list.

I will notify the nearest mobile crisis intervention unit.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: The Scott on November 11, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Pathetic manlets, hurling themselves onto the syringe like meat to the spit.   Train for health and the strength of life it can give to you.  For the physique that will require no rationalization and will last you a lifetime instead of a cycle.

Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: SF1900 on November 11, 2014, 06:55:17 PM
Pathetic manlets, hurling themselves onto the syringe like meat to the spit.   Train for health and the strength of life it can give to you.  For the physique that will require no rationalization and will last you a lifetime instead of a cycle.



If someone wants to take steroids to look good, I don't really care. However, there are people like Anabolichalo who are the perfect example of this. A true loser, through and through.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: thebrink on November 11, 2014, 08:36:32 PM
If someone wants to take steroids to look good, I don't really care. However, there are people like Anabolichalo who are the perfect example of this. A true loser, through and through.

A perfect example of an abuser. This is what happens when a non athlete takes up bodybuilding.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: oldgolds on November 12, 2014, 05:28:35 PM
This is a sick, disgusting sport/hobby...Drug free bodybuilding is healthy and admirable, but what it is now is simply bizarre and degrading.
Title: Re: No point working out while off the sauce?
Post by: PuckWhacker on November 12, 2014, 05:42:12 PM
Wouldn't training while "off the sauce" be viewed as a must?  I would think having training and diet dialed in after coming off would be key to try and keep as much muscle as possible.  There are some delusional people on this site.