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Title: Building a life and bodybuilding
Post by: Howard on November 17, 2014, 11:28:44 AM
Today, I'm 32 yrs older from where I started and enjoy a lifestyle I could only dream of .
Back then things were tough.
I didn't have a car, checking account , credit card, or health Ins. I hadn't finished college and my outlook was bleak.
I had a small motorcycle , bicycle and the burning desire to be a bodybuilder.


Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: SF1900 on November 17, 2014, 12:02:02 PM
Thanks and I'll try to keep it moving and focus on stuff others might find interesting.

post some more pics of your wife.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 17, 2014, 12:56:19 PM
Good stuff Howard keep it going.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: falco on November 17, 2014, 01:19:37 PM
A vida sorri aos audazes.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: da_vinci on November 17, 2014, 01:21:00 PM
Good. continue.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: thebrink on November 17, 2014, 02:38:55 PM
so after people are done with USMC they get to work washing dishes? thats not a very good deal IMO

Yeah arce got a better deal
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on November 17, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Yeah arce got a better deal

stealing money from Getbiggers?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: TonyAlva on November 17, 2014, 02:52:29 PM

ah fuck me...when did Howard evolve into Prime muscle ???
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: thebrink on November 17, 2014, 03:04:42 PM
stealing money from Getbiggers?

Beats working for a living.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: 240 is Back on November 18, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
I find it hard to respect any man that hasn't spent a decade devoted to chasing the pro card dream.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: el numero uno on November 18, 2014, 08:09:56 AM
Please continue  :)

I find it hard to respect any man that hasn't spent a decade devoted to chasing the pro card dream.

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 18, 2014, 08:14:21 AM
Great read Howie, thanks.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 18, 2014, 10:04:25 AM
Good stuff Howard!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 18, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
Keep er comin, Howard !
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Natural Man on November 18, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
i guess we are like howards kids and grandkids somehow.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Schmoff on November 18, 2014, 07:27:30 PM
this thread needs sticky
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: macgarth on November 18, 2014, 07:32:54 PM
Great read Howard, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: hardgainerj on November 18, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
-and thats how i got herpes
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gmflex on November 18, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
 Bump for part 3
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 19, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
i guess we are like howards kids and grandkids somehow.

You make me feel really old with that comment. ;)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Mazda323 on November 19, 2014, 07:10:36 AM
This topic will gonna be epic!!!

Waiting for the next part!!!

My fellow Getbiggers, this is so cool!!!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 19, 2014, 07:31:30 AM
Howard this is great. Sometimes with the stuff you post I question your sanity but this is gold.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: R.A.M. on November 19, 2014, 08:33:05 AM
Great stuff.. Got any old school pics so we can visualize Howard in the 80's... no homo.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 19, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
Great stuff.. Got any old school pics so we can visualize Howard in the 80's... no homo.

I posted one many times from the 1988 Jr USA doing a Zane type pose.
I think I have that and some others on my other cpu hard drive ( pictures file).
If I see 'em I'll post  a couple.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: The True Adonis on November 19, 2014, 10:55:10 AM
Some more.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101156.0;attach=109468;image)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
3 GUYS'VETERANS'HERE YOU CANNOT KNOCK THERE BUILDS'STAGE 'LOOK,HOWIE/BASILE/JOE LOCO/COACH/MARINO/COACH IS BACK/ROACH COACH...THEY WERE CLASSIC OLD SCHOOL LOOK,,PROPS,,
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: The True Adonis on November 19, 2014, 10:56:56 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101156.0;attach=109473;image)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 19, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
Thanks. That was the 1988 Jr USA, I was 196 ripped lbs at my ht of 5' 9.5"

Today, the guys at that height are 50+ lbs heavier; yet, don't look as good.

That said, about 60% of the adult population lives check to check, which is another way of saying they're almost homeless and broke. ;)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 19, 2014, 11:27:47 AM
Some more.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101156.0;attach=109468;image)

Thanks so much for posting my old vintage shots TA  :D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 19, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441530.0;attach=484976;image)

I'm impressed with your abdominal development in this shot.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2014, 11:45:37 AM
HOWIE why can't you find some resemblance to that physique in any way?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: 2Thick on November 19, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
Very good physique.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 20, 2014, 06:49:05 AM
Today, the guys at that height are 50+ lbs heavier; yet, don't look as good.

That said, about 60% of the adult population lives check to check, which is another way of saying they're almost homeless and broke. ;)

For some reason(s), the top officials and judges reward bigger and more freaky guys with the biggest titles.
One look back to a 90's Youtube video of Shawn Ray or Flex Wheeler proves that bigger isn't always better.

Most people might live paycheck to paycheck but they often have some form of backup ( family, friends, credit cards, etc).
I had none of those and was lucky I never got seriously sick or injured.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2014, 09:16:52 AM
amazing stuff.  howard rocks!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 20, 2014, 10:19:33 AM
Great thread!! A GetBig rarity!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: loco on November 20, 2014, 11:38:02 AM
Howard, why did you quote yourself?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 05:31:54 AM
Howard, why did you quote yourself?

I use quotes sometimes as a literary device to emphasize ironic points.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 07:27:48 AM
there we go. No wonder you dont want kids.


BTW why the need to tell everyone about your life right now?

I didn't want kids BEFORE my dad died.

I'm just posting some stuff I wanted to share with others that may be struggling with similar issues now or have in the past.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Natural Man on November 21, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
I didn't want kids BEFORE my dad died.

I'm just posting some stuff I wanted to share with others that may be struggling with similar issues now or have in the past.
Leave something... behind ?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2014, 07:34:56 AM
I didn't want kids BEFORE my dad died.

I'm just posting some stuff I wanted to share with others that may be struggling with similar issues now or have in the past.
You are a good Guy. Donīt know you of course but reading into your posts..
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Any ex military Guys on here would get fed and watered at my Ranch. ;D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 21, 2014, 07:40:25 AM
Howard this is one of the best things I have read on this site. Your work ethic has rewarded you with a good career and hopefully a good life. Sorry to say I always saw you as one of the court jesters here with irrelevant posts meant to entertain or shock. This biography really made my day here. I'm tempted to post about myself but it's not the venue for me to do a reveal.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: da_vinci on November 21, 2014, 07:40:38 AM
there we go. No wonder you dont want kids.


BTW why the need to tell everyone about your life right now?

Man, seriously... some people just want to live themselves and not "for kids", "for country" or humanity. Simple as that. And Howard seems to live with a lot less suffering than many people on this earth. Sometimes it's just about being lucky and not making stupid choices. And for some people it's better to have many happy moments for a bigger part in their life, even if it means you'll have to pay a "price" at an old age for a decade or two (compared to whole life that price is worth paying imho). Rather than "carry your cross" whole life, being miserable, just in hopes of "not having to be alone when you're old (and fucked anyway..).".
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 07:42:24 AM
Leave something...in MY behind ?
fixed :D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: da_vinci on November 21, 2014, 07:42:52 AM
Howard this is one of the best things I have read on this site. Your work ethic has rewarded you with a good career and hopefully a good life. Sorry to say I always saw you as one of the court jesters here with irrelevant posts meant to entertain or shock. This biography really made my day here. I'm tempted to post about myself but it's not the venue for me to do a reveal.

It's very interesting to read experiences of these who have been on this earth for a while. There's another fella, Mr.B (?), a surprisingly sharp (for his age) cookie, always interesting stories and accurate insights.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 07:43:32 AM
You are a good Guy. Donīt know you of course but reading into your posts..

Thanks
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 07:48:28 AM
Howard this is one of the best things I have read on this site. Your work ethic has rewarded you with a good career and hopefully a good life. Sorry to say I always saw you as one of the court jesters here with irrelevant posts meant to entertain or shock. This biography really made my day here. I'm tempted to post about myself but it's not the venue for me to do a reveal.

Thanks for the kind words about my life story.

Please post about your trials and tribulations.
For privacy reasons, I avoided posting most last names and recent specifics, etc.
I think it's a lot more interesting to read about dealing with issues then get lost in too many trivial facts.

For example, I avoided posting most of my workout details and just gave a brief, basic description.
Funny or amusing stuff is always more interesting then talking about how many sets and reps you did for squats.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: thegamechanger on November 21, 2014, 07:50:41 AM
good posts howard. you look great in that picture with red trunks, thats a good look any year IMO no wonder you were pulling girls back then
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Grape Ape on November 21, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
This is a great thread - should be stickied until Howard decides he's done with it.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on November 21, 2014, 08:04:42 AM
glad to see u bounced back at the brink of defeat,i been there myself and it was hell pulling myself out of there.there where times i almost gave in and ended it,i still suffer from depression sometimes even now and things aint that bad for me at all,im not rich but im doing ok and my wife and son r healthy and happy.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 08:51:53 AM
Man, seriously... some people just want to live themselves and not "for kids", "for country" or humanity. Simple as that. And Howard seems to live with a lot less suffering than many people on this earth. Sometimes it's just about being lucky and not making stupid choices. And for some people it's better to have many happy moments for a bigger part in their life, even if it means you'll have to pay a "price" at an old age for a decade or two (compared to whole life that price is worth paying imho). Rather than "carry your cross" whole life, being miserable, just in hopes of "not having to be alone when you're old (and fucked anyway..).".
Great post.

I  endured my share of shit and never felt like a victim.
I cringe when I hear some poor slob cry out ; " Why me ?", when something bad happens.

When shit happened to me I first get pissed off or upset, but it quickly fades.
Then  I say to myself ; " Well why not me? wtf, and deal with the situation the best way I can."
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 21, 2014, 08:53:34 AM
glad to see u bounced back at the brink of defeat,i been there myself and it was hell pulling myself out of there.there where times i almost gave in and ended it,i still suffer from depression sometimes even now and things aint that bad for me at all,im not rich but im doing ok and my wife and son r healthy and happy.

Being active and in pursuit of something is what keeps me sane.

Teddy Roosevelt once said ; " Get active or go crazy"
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 24, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Great thread!! A GetBig rarity!

Thanks! I'm amazed this thread stayed mostly positive overall  :D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: SF1900 on November 24, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
howard, post more pics of your cute, chunky/thick wife.

Thanks.

Your friend,

SF1900
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: SF1900 on November 24, 2014, 01:46:58 PM
Ok, but I don't have too many on this cpu hard drive files.

Nice. She looks happy.  :D :D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on November 24, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
Beth is very lucky to have Howard.  :)

Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: The True Adonis on November 24, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
Man, seriously... some people just want to live themselves and not "for kids", "for country" or humanity. Simple as that. And Howard seems to live with a lot less suffering than many people on this earth. Sometimes it's just about being lucky and not making stupid choices. And for some people it's better to have many happy moments for a bigger part in their life, even if it means you'll have to pay a "price" at an old age for a decade or two (compared to whole life that price is worth paying imho). Rather than "carry your cross" whole life, being miserable, just in hopes of "not having to be alone when you're old (and fucked anyway..).".
I assure you, Uberman regrets having children.  He has not come to terms with it just yet, at least publicly on here.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Mr.Mojo on November 24, 2014, 06:16:54 PM
Really enjoyed reading your story and it was also very well written.
At no point tiring. I was always curious to read the next chapter like in a book purchased from a store.
Maybe you should consider to write it down one day professionally. Why not, I would buy it.
Thanks for sharing this and just the best for you and your wife.

Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Elvis_McCartney on November 24, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Howard, enjoyed the read immensely.

Fayetteville/Ft Bragg is rough place.  The 3rd day after I was transferred there as a GM with Bennigan's on McPherson I was broken into.  Came home after closing up the restaurant at 3am and the fools were still there.  3 of them ran out the back door.  Had already made numerous trips (somewhere) with my stuff.  Only had one more room to clear out and they would have hit the mother load with about $30 grand of music stuff.

Still in NC but in a much better place.  I know the area all too well, LOL.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Bob Bonham on November 25, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
Man your stuffwas great .. Could not stop reading. respect to you
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on November 25, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
would love to snuggle with Howard every night and be his Beth.

Then he could put his big and strong arms all over my body in a gentle massage as I posted from his account on Getbig.

(no homo)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 26, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
Really enjoyed reading your story and it was also very well written.
At no point tiring. I was always curious to read the next chapter like in a book purchased from a store.
Maybe you should consider to write it down one day professionally. Why not, I would buy it.
Thanks for sharing this and just the best for you and your wife.



Thanks so much for the kind words on my wacky life from years past.
I lack the fame and name recognition need to sell a million copies . Thus , most publishers would never accept my personal bio manuscript.
It's a lot of work to get your foot in the door and I lack the  motivation to do the needed tedious crap required to give it a shot.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on November 26, 2014, 09:51:28 AM
Man your stuffwas great .. Could not stop reading. respect to you

Thanks Bob. Are you still running that awesome gym in NJ?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 28, 2014, 05:32:10 AM
Howard is the man.

Lived the bbing lifestyle, banged plenty of chicks, and can take a joke  8)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: calfzilla on November 28, 2014, 05:32:53 AM
Any pics of the new house Howard?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 28, 2014, 07:35:26 AM
Dream house, Dream job, working out and a hot thick wife. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Galvatron on November 28, 2014, 08:25:15 AM
Thanks for sharing your story with us Howard.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2014, 06:27:41 AM
Howard is the man.

Lived the bbing lifestyle, banged plenty of chicks, and can take a joke  8)

hey , if you can't take a joke, you'll never really enjoy being on a BB forum ;D
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 01, 2014, 06:31:41 AM
Thanks for sharing your story with us Howard.
Thanks  but I sincerely wish others would do the same.
There has to be plenty of guys like me who started out poor and ended up ok.

Ya know I figure some getbiggers actually made it out of their mom's basement apt...eventually?
Hmmm, maybe not? :o
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 02, 2014, 05:21:33 AM
i agree,at first i thought "oh no"another getbigger bragging about something he has,but as i read it and realized it was nothing like that it was a very good and interesting read. howard is just a guy(like myself) who can laugh at himself and doesnt take himself to seriously on these boards. he keeps it simple and fun,good hearted individual who doesnt have a bad word to say about anyone,very good qualities to have in this day and age with a world full of envy,greed,jealousy,hatred ect. im glad for him and his wife,they found happiness and thats all a person can ask for these days,money without happiness is bullshit,being a muscle man without happiness is bullshit also,ive struggled alot in my life so when im happy i really enjoy it cause i know how fast things can change and put a person back in a dark state of mind where u just couldnt care less about anything and want a way out permanantly
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 02, 2014, 05:57:57 AM
howard u said the key words there, TAKING BODYBUILDING TO SERIOUSLY CAN GET U DEPRESSED,i try to look at training now as something i enjoy and thats it. dont get me wrong i still struggle with the COMPETITION  thing of knowing i can throw up the 140-150lb dumbells on the flat bench cause i just want to impress a bunch of high school kids or whatever but the better sense in me doesnt do it. so i just use my usuall 85-95lbs for them and go nice and slow,at my age i have to b real careful and warm up nicely.back in the 90's and early 2000's i got so caught up in the bodybuilding world that i was outta my mind and wasnt thinking rational,everything and i mean everything revolved around bodybuilding,it was a living hell to be honest. i looked really good but i would never ever do that again,talk about a MEATHEAD TYPE,that was me all day. the great thing is i can still maintain a decent build and enjoy myself at the same time
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: whitewidow on December 02, 2014, 06:07:58 AM
I have faced so much adversity in my life it's almost unbelievable !Adversity makes somebody stronger! I can't imagine going through life with no problems,I see people born into money(trust fund babys) without a trouble in the world but those people are weak and don;t know shit about real life!

as far Bodybuilding or anything I have interest in I take the shit way too seriously but that's the kind of personality I have. very addictive personality and I have the means to be selfish right now. I have no wife,no kids, no job, I live like a hermit. I only train and eat and sleep! I am not 100% happy but this is better then when I was partying and fucking up my body! Money means alot to me! I learned that I am a very greedy,selfish person and will probably never change. Money dosn't really make me happy but I feel way more secure knowing I can pay bills!

I also have some Ego issues. Trying to work on some of my issues but I don't live a lie I admit I have these faults. anybody who knows me a little knows I went through a very dark period and still made it out of it and got back on track. No telling where I would be without bodybuilding
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 02, 2014, 06:12:56 AM
I take the shit way too seriously but that's the kind of personality I have. very addictive personality and I have the means to be selfish right now. I have no wife,no kids, no job, I live like a hermit. I only train and eat and sleep! I am not 100% happy but this is better then when I was partying and fucking up my body! Money means alot to me! I learned that I am a very greedy,selfish person and will probably never change. Money dosn't really make me happy but I feel way more secure knowing I can pay bills!

I also have some Ego issues. Trying to work on some of my issues but I don't live a lie I admit I have these faults. anybody who knows me a little knows I went through a very dark period and still made it out of it and got back on track. No telling where I would be without bodybuilding


man oh man i remember those days,no kid,no wife and just training all the time. tell u one thing it was alot easier to train and diet when its like that. kid and wife changes things abit,it makes things harder in one aspect but im happy as ever as long as i keep my mental state stable and stay away from the opiates im really happy. u know what the say,once a opiate addict always a opiate addict,im just trying to keep it outta my life and be happy just with living clean
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: whitewidow on December 02, 2014, 06:29:46 AM
man oh man i remember those days,no kid,no wife and just training all the time. tell u one thing it was alot easier to train and diet when its like that. kid and wife changes things abit,it makes things harder in one aspect but im happy as ever as long as i keep my mental state stable and stay away from the opiates im really happy. u know what the say,once a opiate addict always a opiate addict,im just trying to keep it outta my life and be happy just with living clean

I'm 32 and no way am I getting married or having kids. Like I said I know i am a very selfish person, all bodybuilders are VERY selfish. I bet a wife and kids would be way too much for me to deal with. Like i said i have had a CRAZY life! No thanks for me! Yes I got deep into dope mainly oxycontin but also heroin and you probably can guess how i supported myself wich also makes me feel shitty these days,didn't really process it when I was doing it because I was addicted and didn't give a fuck.

I am not going to brag about how I made a lot of money and still was a addict. Yes I am not 100% clean I do still use suboxone but trying to taper down on that. As you know it does jack shit but stop your craving. Yes your right I will always be a addict. That itch never goes away! I way rather shoot steroids then oxys or heroin so all I can do is keep training and shooting juice!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2014, 06:33:05 AM
I'm 32 and no way am I getting married or having kids. Like I said I know i am a very selfish person, all bodybuilders are VERY selfish. I bet a wife and kids would be way too much for me to deal with. Like i said i have had a CRAZY life! No thanks for me! Yes I got deep into dope mainly oxycontin but also heroin and you probably can guess how i supported myself wich also makes me feel shitty these days,didn't really process it when I was doing it because I was addicted and didn't give a fuck.

I am not going to brag about how I made a lot of money and still was a addict. Yes I am not 100% clean I do still use suboxone but trying to taper down on that. As you know it does jack shit but stop your craving. Yes your right I will always be a addict. That itch never goes away! I way rather shoot steroids then oxys or heroin so all I can do is keep training and shooting juice!
WHITEW,,THAT COULD CHANGE I WAS 30/35 I SAID NO WAY WOULD I WANT KIDS MARRIAGE,WAS ENGAGED BROKE OFF,THEN FINALLY MARRIED AT 37  :P...3 KIDS NOW I'M 46... :o
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: BigRo on December 02, 2014, 06:37:58 AM
All bodybuilders are very selfish? Sweeping generalization.

Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: whitewidow on December 02, 2014, 06:40:15 AM
WHITEW,,THAT COULD CHANGE I WAS 30/35 I SAID NO WAY WOULD I WANT KIDS MARRIAGE,WAS ENGAGED BROKE OFF,THEN FINALLY MARRIED AT 37  :P...3 KIDS NOW I'M 46... :o

Your right! who knows. I don't see it ever happening due to my personality. it's just nothing I want. but hell george clooney said the sme thing and he just got married. who knows what life will deal you but very hard to see it right now! I just know how selfish of a person I am. I wouldn't make a good husband or father.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: whitewidow on December 02, 2014, 06:43:00 AM
All bodybuilders are very selfish? Sweeping generalization.



not all of them but the majority will admit they are selfish, you almost have to be! I'm just selfish as it is. You can ask ronnie and he will admit he put his family on the back burner once he started bodybuilding. cuttler is selfish! all of them are pretty selfish and alot of us are too.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: BigRo on December 02, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
when in serious prep mode I dont let things get in the way of what I have to do but besides that I always have time for others, for the bigger picture, to laugh and have a joke even when dieting hard.

Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2014, 07:04:25 AM
Your right! who knows. I don't see it ever happening due to my personality. it's just nothing I want. but hell george clooney said the sme thing and he just got married. who knows what life will deal you but very hard to see it right now! I just know how selfish of a person I am. I wouldn't make a good husband or father.
TAKES A REAL MAN TO REALIZE OR KNOW WHO HE IS OR ISN'T..YOU SEEM TO KNOW YOUR WAY ..HOPEFULLY YOUR RIGHT..
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2014, 07:13:25 AM
howard u said the key words there, TAKING BODYBUILDING TO SERIOUSLY CAN GET U DEPRESSED,i try to look at training now as something i enjoy and thats it. dont get me wrong i still struggle with the COMPETITION  thing of knowing i can throw up the 140-150lb dumbells on the flat bench cause i just want to impress a bunch of high school kids or whatever but the better sense in me doesnt do it. so i just use my usuall 85-95lbs for them and go nice and slow,at my age i have to b real careful and warm up nicely.back in the 90's and early 2000's i got so caught up in the bodybuilding world that i was outta my mind and wasnt thinking rational,everything and i mean everything revolved around bodybuilding,it was a living hell to be honest. i looked really good but i would never ever do that again,talk about a MEATHEAD TYPE,that was me all day. the great thing is i can still maintain a decent build and enjoy myself at the same time
I can relate and thanks for sharing your honest experience on this.
Questions
 - 1.Did you ever find yourself feeling depressed after a few days of strict diet and intense training, etc?
2. Did you start building your life around workouts and meal plans? What jolted you back to your senses?
3. Did you think you can get at least 90% of the actual results without the precise, regimented routine?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
I have faced so much adversity in my life it's almost unbelievable !Adversity makes somebody stronger! I can't imagine going through life with no problems,I see people born into money(trust fund babys) without a trouble in the world but those people are weak and don;t know shit about real life!

as far Bodybuilding or anything I have interest in I take the shit way too seriously but that's the kind of personality I have. very addictive personality and I have the means to be selfish right now. I have no wife,no kids, no job, I live like a hermit. I only train and eat and sleep! I am not 100% happy but this is better then when I was partying and fucking up my body! Money means alot to me! I learned that I am a very greedy,selfish person and will probably never change. Money dosn't really make me happy but I feel way more secure knowing I can pay bills!

I also have some Ego issues. Trying to work on some of my issues but I don't live a lie I admit I have these faults. anybody who knows me a little knows I went through a very dark period and still made it out of it and got back on track. No telling where I would be without bodybuilding


Great post! I agree that a person can have a decent life without being married, having children, party with pals, etc.
In my opinion, trying to force yourself to live a more conventional lifestyle is wrong.

I'm glad to read that you make enough $$ to pay your own bills and live an independent lifestyle.
To me, living life on your own unique terms is the real key to being happy.

Tell us more about your job and overall lifestyle.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: whitewidow on December 02, 2014, 07:38:57 AM
Great post! I agree that a person can have a decent life without being married, having children, party with pals, etc.
In my opinion, trying to force yourself to live a more conventional lifestyle is wrong.

I'm glad to read that you make enough $$ to pay your own bills and live an independent lifestyle.
To me, living life on your own unique terms is the real key to being happy.

Tell us more about your job and overall lifestyle.  Thanks.

well your a bodybuilder it can be a very boring life but it's better then the life I was living partying all the time and fucking my body up. I seldom go out anymore. I don't drink or smoke. I don't crave as much sex as I used to. Like I said very boring life. Like I said I have face a shitload of adversity wich is a blessing to me.

I can't stand petty people who complain about stupid things. I hate trust fund baby type people. I have been on super highs and had the world in my hand and super low and living a awful life. I worked a shitload since I was 14 years old and just am real cheap and selfish so I have been able to save alot of money. I sold supplements and pretty much anything I could profit on for years. I also got a decent insurance settlemnt after I got hit by a drunk driver.But that started alot of issues. I couldn;t train and was a mess. I would give all that money back and would erase that day if I could. no amount of money was worth that injury and the addiction to oxycontin that came from it.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
WHITEW,,THAT COULD CHANGE I WAS 30/35 I SAID NO WAY WOULD I WANT KIDS MARRIAGE,WAS ENGAGED BROKE OFF,THEN FINALLY MARRIED AT 37  :P...3 KIDS NOW I'M 46... :o

I think we all change over time.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2014, 10:32:18 AM
Your right! who knows. I don't see it ever happening due to my personality. it's just nothing I want. but hell george clooney said the sme thing and he just got married. who knows what life will deal you but very hard to see it right now! I just know how selfish of a person I am. I wouldn't make a good husband or father.

While any of us can and do change over time, there is no requirement to do so.
As long as your financially independent and /or have a good job, I see no reason why you NEED to change.

I've  known too many men that get married and have kids because it's just what you do by a certain age.
If you are happy NOT being married , then stay the course.
If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Ok, without giving any specific details (names/places) , I wonder if you could give us some drug dealing tales?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Natural Man on December 03, 2014, 06:47:07 AM
Great post! I agree that a person can have a decent life without being married, having children, party with pals, etc.
In my opinion, trying to force yourself to live a more conventional lifestyle is wrong.


you realize that if everyone stoped breeding, it would be the end of the specie, right?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 03, 2014, 07:31:07 AM
you realize that if everyone stoped breeding, it would be the end of the specie, right?
I've always said , a caring, loving parent is a wonderful thing.
The world needs BOTH types of people to survive well on planet earth for the next 1000 yrs.
Right now too many careless people produce babies .
With the world population booming at over 7 billion humans now, we need to have a few NOT reproduce.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 03, 2014, 08:31:16 AM
Great stuff Howard! It's threads like this that make Getbig the best. You and I competed around the same time and are around the same age. Maybe some day if I have the time and the motivation, I will put some of the trials and tribulations I have experienced along the way.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: BIG ACH on December 03, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
I've only read part 1 and 2 so far... But great stuff Howard... Keep it coming!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: pellius on December 04, 2014, 05:06:27 AM
you realize that if everyone stoped breeding, it would be the end of the specie, right?

If everyone were football players that would be the end of baseball.

You make a pointless point. The problem is hardly that not enough people are having children. In fact, too many people are having children that shouldn't be. At least Howard and WW are insightful and reflective enough to see their strengths and faults and what they are capable of and what suits their disposition and predilection.

Please start spelling better, use correct punctuation and capitalize the first letter at the beginning of a sentence if you want to try to sound smart.

TA is right. Deep down you regret having kids because you are such a self-absorb narcissist. If there's anyone on this board just crying out for therapy it's you. Quit blaming your parents for your bitterness and unhappiness and take responsibility for your own life and decisions.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 05:43:16 AM
Great stuff Howard! It's threads like this that make Getbig the best. You and I competed around the same time and are around the same age. Maybe some day if I have the time and the motivation, I will put some of the trials and tribulations I have experienced along the way.

I'd love to read some BB adventures from another getbigger during the same period. Start the thread  ;)
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 04, 2014, 06:03:14 AM
I'd love to read some BB adventures from another getbigger during the same period. Start the thread  ;)

even though i didnt compete til the late 90's ive been going to bodybuilding shows since the early 80.s,82 to be exact i went to radio city music hall in new york city to see the AAU MR AMERICA bodybuilding contest,i saw TIM BELKNAP walk in the bathroom when i was taking a piss,lol,im this young kid and these guys r my heros and im staring at him with my jaw hitting the floor,tim prolly thought i was a FRUITCAKE or something :D.saw rory leidelmeyer walking around also,i swear to god he was the biggest human being ive ever seen up to that point,i mean rory was just a pure monster,he was off season i think and looked even huger. GREAT TIMES for me in the 80's,BODYBUILDING WISE AND IN GENERAL,especially early 80,s,i MISS THOSE DAYS BIGTIME
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 06:14:07 AM
no doubt about it howard,sometimes when i ease up on my mental intensity and just relax or take a chill pill so to speak id end up with better over all progress and my nervous system wasnt shot to shit. thats the crazy thing,one day i got home and my wife saw me putting all my muscle mags in a box and said(what r u doing)?i said this bodybuilding is starting to control my life and im not gonna let it,she said (ok,u know better than me)instead of reading muscle mags everynight after i trained id watch a stephen king movie or a comedy,whatever i did i just made sure it wasnt bodybuilding related.ill tell u howard my quality of life,as far as my nerves and my well being got really great and i felt like i had a life again. ofcoarse i still train hard when im in the gym and eat clean 6 days a week but other than that i try to keep bodybuilding off my mind. i know thats sounds contridicting since im posting this on a bodybuilding site but the difference is im on here as a therapy to help myself laugh alot more and relax,posting on getbig is stress relief for me believe it or not. its enjoyable and i have fun,its different than sitting home reading about ronnie colemans arm workout or whatever

I spent a number of years just trying to be involved with bodybuilding as the only sport that mattered. I too read and studied the mags and totally absorbed myself into BB .
In recent years I've become a reborn sports fan and especially enjoy watching NHL ( hockey) and MLB( baseball) games along with some of the other sports.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 06:17:22 AM
even though i didnt compete til the late 90's ive been going to bodybuilding shows since the early 80.s,82 to be exact i went to radio city music hall in new york city to see the AAU MR AMERICA bodybuilding contest,i saw TIM BELKNAP walk in the bathroom when i was taking a piss,lol,im this young kid and these guys r my heros and im staring at him with my jaw hitting the floor,tim prolly thought i was a FRUITCAKE or something :D.saw rory leidelmeyer walking around also,i swear to god he was the biggest human being ive ever seen up to that point,i mean rory was just a pure monster,he was off season i think and looked even huger. GREAT TIMES for me in the 80's,BODYBUILDING WISE AND IN GENERAL,especially early 80,s,i MISS THOSE DAYS BIGTIME

Wow, you saw Belknap win the America?! He had some awesome quads and I remember being in awe seeing his 1 arm front most muscular pose. Ya know graciebjj, we actually have MORE events to watch and attend NOW then we did back then. The big difference is, back then it was just bodybuilding. For me, the Europa events offer a lot of bang for your fan buck.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 04, 2014, 06:21:46 AM
Wow, you saw Belknap win the America?! He had some awesome quads and I remember being in awe seeing his 1 arm front most muscular pose. Ya know graciebjj, we actually have MORE events to watch and attend NOW then we did back then. The big difference is, back then it was just bodybuilding. For me, the Europa events offer a lot of bang for your fan buck.

actually the year i went to watch the america belknap guest posed,thats when i saw him in the bathroom,right before he guest posed.he was a monster,his legs especially where just plain freaky,no other way to describe them. i saw mike christian there also. great times back then,miss them bigtime
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 04, 2014, 06:28:04 AM
even though i didnt compete til the late 90's ive been going to bodybuilding shows since the early 80.s,82 to be exact i went to radio city music hall in new york city to see the AAU MR AMERICA bodybuilding contest,i saw TIM BELKNAP walk in the bathroom when i was taking a piss,lol,im this young kid and these guys r my heros and im staring at him with my jaw hitting the floor,tim prolly thought i was a FRUITCAKE or something :D.saw rory leidelmeyer walking around also,i swear to god he was the biggest human being ive ever seen up to that point,i mean rory was just a pure monster,he was off season i think and looked even huger. GREAT TIMES for me in the 80's,BODYBUILDING WISE AND IN GENERAL,especially early 80,s,i MISS THOSE DAYS BIGTIME

You're story of meeting Belnap in the bathroom reminds me of the time I was taking a leak in an airport bathroom. A guy comes in next to me and it's Mick Jagger. True story.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 06:58:19 AM
You're story of meeting Belnap in the bathroom reminds me of the time I was taking a leak in an airport bathroom. A guy comes in next to me and it's Mick Jagger. True story.
That's pretty cool. What year was this and how old, ugly and haggard did he look, up close, in person?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 04, 2014, 07:26:35 AM
even though i didnt compete til the late 90's ive been going to bodybuilding shows since the early 80.s,82 to be exact i went to radio city music hall in new york city to see the AAU MR AMERICA bodybuilding contest,i saw TIM BELKNAP walk in the bathroom when i was taking a piss,lol,im this young kid and these guys r my heros and im staring at him with my jaw hitting the floor,tim prolly thought i was a FRUITCAKE or something :D.saw rory leidelmeyer walking around also,i swear to god he was the biggest human being ive ever seen up to that point,i mean rory was just a pure monster,he was off season i think and looked even huger. GREAT TIMES for me in the 80's,BODYBUILDING WISE AND IN GENERAL,especially early 80,s,i MISS THOSE DAYS BIGTIME
Belknap did a seminar at the gym where I trained in S.FL.around 81 or 82. He was thick and vascular his legs where freaky. Nice guy down to earth not cocky. Rory was my favorite BBer back then, never got a chance to see him up close on stage or off season. You say the same thing every one else says who has ever seen him. Biggest BBer they ever saw back then. Certainly should have been a pro, Mr. O potential.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 04, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
Here you go. Back in the the early 80's my first real hard core gym I trained in was Gold Coast Gym in North Lauderdale FL. It was owned by Rafael Gurrero who was the Cuban Olympic Weight Lifting coach. He coached Sergio Oliva in Cuba. He was also a a gymnast and hand balancer. It was a great gym he used to make all of his own equipment. All the lat puldown machines, cable crossovers etc. Chris Duffy started training there when he was a senior in High School. He worshiped Arnold and would bring Education of a Bodybuilder in there and follow every routine from cover to cover. After about a year or so he had two training partners, one a blond haired guy named Greg, the other a huge guy named Larry. I used to occasionally train with the three of them. One day a few years later, I am watching Florida Championship Wrestling.  I see this huge guy who looks like a Bodybuilder named Lex Luger, I am thinking I know this guy. Sure enough it was Larry Pfohl, Duffy's old training partner.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2014, 08:30:31 AM
Here you go. Back in the the early 80's my first real hard core gym I trained in was Gold Coast Gym in North Lauderdale FL. It was owned by Rafael Gurrero who was the Cuban Olympic Weight Lifting coach. He coached Sergio Oliva in Cuba. He was also a a gymnast and hand balancer. It was a great gym he used to make all of his own equipment. All the lat puldown machines, cable crossovers etc. Chris Duffy started training there when he was a senior in High School. He worshiped Arnold and would bring Education of a Bodybuilder in there and follow every routine from cover to cover. After about a year or so he had two training partners, one a blond haired guy named Greg, the other a huge guy named Larry. I used to occasionally train with the three of them. One day a few years later, I am watching Florida Championship Wrestling.  I see this huge guy who looks like a Bodybuilder named Lex Luger, I am thinking I know this guy. Sure enough it was Larry Pfohl, Duffy's old training partner.
8)..luger was thicker early on,,then shredded up as he got more mainstream'in the ring persona'
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 04, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
8)..luger was thicker early on,,then shredded up as he got more mainstream'in the ring persona'
He was training for Football back then. He was an Offensive Line man for Montreal CFL before he started wrestling. He also played for the Hurricanes.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 04, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
Howard did you ever train at Docs Gym in Atlanta back in the 80's
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Dr.J on December 04, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
I only served a 4 yr enlistment and when I got out , I had a full physical to clear me ( on my DD-214) .
This was the normal process when I served.
VA Ins is used when a vet is disabled from duty.

Calfzilla getting powened!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 09:37:38 AM
Howard did you ever train at Docs Gym in Atlanta back in the 80's
If it was in midtown ATL, I'm sure I did a few times.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Howard on December 04, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Calfzilla getting powened!

I think he was trying to make a general point about some dysfunctional aspects of the current VA.
In fairness, that had nothing to do with my thread topic  .I suspect he skimmed , saw VA and it set him off.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Dr.J on December 04, 2014, 10:18:34 AM
Leave something... behind ?

Leave it up to urbandick to say something stupid!
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: njflex on December 04, 2014, 10:53:57 AM
He was training for Football back then. He was an Offensive Line man for Montreal CFL before he started wrestling. He also played for the Hurricanes.
I BELIEVE GREEN BAY PACKERS TOO..
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 04, 2014, 03:50:58 PM
I BELIEVE GREEN BAY PACKERS TOO..
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He was on the injured reserve with them for a year
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: da_vinci on December 04, 2014, 05:43:22 PM
I assure you, Uberman regrets having children.  He has not come to terms with it just yet, at least publicly on here.


I've been thinking the same. He took a big risk (of spending his whole life semi-miserable for a goal that may be achieved or... not), now it's very important to convince HIMSELF that it was worth it. That's an inner battle of one person. Just being faithful for one female for decades (for an attractive male. From what I remember he's good looking. no homo) may be a curse. And that's just the obvious, many many other stuff.
  We all have our own inner battles in this ridiculous experience called life. Nothing matter at the end, just while we are still alive.  
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: gracie bjj on December 12, 2014, 07:58:01 AM
man if i had a choice id go live far in the mountains away from this fucked up world
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Rhino on December 12, 2014, 09:59:33 AM
I've always said , a caring, loving parent is a wonderful thing.
The world needs BOTH types of people to survive well on planet earth for the next 1000 yrs.
Right now too many careless people produce babies .
With the world population booming at over 7 billion humans now, we need to have a few NOT reproduce.
Only the "whites" have stopped producing. And with non whites killing whites at a staggering rate... according to stats in The US and South Africa for ex. As well as everywhere else. The "white" population is the only one thinning out. Yet they call non "white" minority? lol Are so called "whites" even 1% percent of the world now? Just India and China alone must have 3 billion people for cripe sakes.

Well... White Boys... it was a good run. A damn good run. Now off off to listen to some Willie Nelson Beer for my Horses.
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: tom joad on December 12, 2014, 10:04:58 AM
Only the "whites" have stopped producing. And with non whites killing whites at a staggering rate... according to stats in The US and South Africa for ex. As well as everywhere else. The "white" population is the only one thinning out. Yet they call non "white" minority? lol Are so called "whites" even 1% percent of the world now? Just India and China alone must have 3 billion people for cripe sakes.

Well... White Boys... it was a good run. A damn good run. Now off off to listen to some Willie Nelson Beer for my Horses.

maybe whites don't believe as much in raw no pulling out?
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Rhino on December 12, 2014, 10:26:38 AM
No one cares that Black on White murder is 4 to over 1000 times more where ever you have blacks and whites living together. And the fact that no one cares... as if my life is worth nothing... tells me I'm not wanted here on this earth. Such a racist double standard. People want genocide and I can see it in their souls. It doesn't matter that I am a slave my self being slavic... all those racist biggots see is skin colour  when they look at me.  >:(
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 12, 2014, 11:07:21 AM
man if i had a choice id go live far in the mountains away from this fucked up world

without hot favela mulata  :-\
Title: Re: Building a life and bodybuilding after being almost homeless and broke
Post by: ritch on December 12, 2014, 11:09:39 AM
Was just thinking of this... The French stink bad enough as is, can you imagine a bum who is from FRance? Yikes...