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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince B on November 21, 2014, 01:11:37 AM
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I was talking to a bloke recently and he just didn't get what I had to say about getting bigger. His experience made him conclude
that he needed anabolic drugs to get bigger arms. No matter what I said he didn't change his beliefs. He needed testosterone. That made me wonder.
I am twice as old as this guy and my adult experience is probably 4 times what he has gone through.
I now believe it takes an expert in hypertrophy to recognize another expert. There you are. No wonder the lads here don't
listen to what I have to say. They disregard my experience and ability to solve problems. They literally have no clue about the science.
By the way, training for bigger size takes a lot of motivation. The kind of dedication that makes one finish an advanced post graduate degree, etc.
As you get bigger it seems to take incrementally more intense workouts. No wonder few overcome this barrier and get huge.
As long as I don't reinjure myself I am on course to exceed my previous largest measured arms. That was in 1999 and 18 in cold.
Previous to that I reached 18 3/4 pumped arms back in 1975.
Disbelievers, scoffers, and broscience authorities need not contaminate this thread with negativity.
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Dude ypu have said the same thing for the last 10 years and ypu look rhe same now as 10 years ago.
not dissing your expertise on hypertrophy just your will to train hard
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18 3/4 of fat /= 18 3/4 of muscle
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Dude ypu have said the same thing for the last 10 years and ypu look rhe same now as 10 years ago.
;D ;D ;D
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Dude ypu have said the same thing for the last 10 years and ypu look rhe same now as 10 years ago.
not dissing your expertise on hypertrophy just your will to train hard
At my age staying the same is an achievement.
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Why in your opinion have you never achieved massive arms Vince?
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At my age staying the same is an achievement.
good point
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Any and every self-proclaimed "expert" needs to be shot dead on sight.
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there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.
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there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.
this....words of wisdom
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there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.
Ah, how refreshing to hear the advice of a genuine authority in life. There is nothing important in life except trying to stay alive.
So building arms will do just fine to pass the time.
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there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.
Young boys first, big arms - second!
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State some facts/experiences Vince - you sound like a snake oil salesman.
No one & prisoneko for example gave a detailed text on how to achieve a bigger and leaner physique. One can try it, debate it and at the end of day one can follow it and see if it works.
Guess we have to wait for the arrival of T1000/skynet to see if some of Vince's mechanical theories hold water.
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State some facts/experiences Vince - you sound like a snake oil salesman.
No one & prisoneko for example gave a detailed text on how to achieve a bigger and leaner physique. One can try it, debate it and at the end of day one can follow it and see if it works.
Guess we have to wait for the arrival of T1000/skynet to see if some of Vince's mechanical theories hold water.
No one didn't post a method to get huge. He advocated drugs.
I have posted details several times. I will demonstrate by example.
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im pretty sure that if you put on bodyweight your arms will get bigger too
so the key to bigger arms is bigger meals not more intense training
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Armezise realy dosent say anything. We need another factor to get somwhere.
How is your armesize vs waist ratio? 1975 1999??
I mean, armesize dosent say jack shit without including other factors...just saying...
WHAT ABOUT THE RATION betwen waist and arms over the year? Waist is a pretty damn great thing to include with measurement! U need something to relate to otherwise we are out in the space bencing 600 pound! Dosent really say ANYTHING!
Armsize vs weight is another great thing. Streangt vs weight another. U always need more fact if u want to se if the progress are REAL or just fooling yourself...
And in this case I think u fool yourself and are not aware of the reality! Sorry old man!
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arms are not going to get bigger with everything else staying the same. bigger bodyweight = bigger arms. thats why bigger guys have bigger arms than smaller guys.
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SLOW LEARNER
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No one didn't post a method to get huge. He advocated drugs.
I have posted details several times. I will demonstrate by example.
I'm all ears Vince. Looking forward to your findings.
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You are only 56yo? You look older friend.
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Vince, you have socks that are 56. You're 90 if you're a day.
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Vince, you have socks that are 56. You're 90 if you're a day.
Vince has food that has been stuck between his teeth for more than 56 years.
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Way better than mine. Kinder too. Vince, we're willing to grant that not all your teeth are wooden.
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I now believe it takes an expert in hypertrophy to recognize another expert. There you are. No wonder the lads here don't listen to what I have to say. They disregard my experience and ability to solve problems. They literally have no clue about the science.
Vince,
Just out of curiosity, what makes you an "expert" in the realm of hypertrophy?
What course work did you pursue in order to deem yourself worthy of being called an expert in Hypertrophy?
What peer-reviewed articles have you published that have somehow landed you this classification?
Have you written any chapters in any particular Anatomy & Physiology textbooks surrounding the notion of hypertrophy?
What governmental agencies have deemed you an expert in this?
Because the notion of hypertrophy itself is a very rudimentary term in common Human Physiology. There's no complex science behind what happens in hypertrophy. If it took you 56 years to figure out the basic properties of hypertrophy, I'd say your brain has been suffering from some serious atrophy.
Added stress on an organ or particular muscle, causes said organ or muscle to increase in size to compensate for the added demands. Clearly, every organ & muscle has a cap to the size in which it can grow without the use of endogenous substances (The heart can only experience hypertrophy for so long before it reaches cardiac failure etc.).
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So you maxed out at 18" and somehow think you are special? That's fairly average.
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, what makes you an "expert" in the realm of hypertrophy?
What course work did you pursue in order to deem yourself worthy of being called an expert in Hypertrophy?
What peer-reviewed articles have you published that have somehow landed you this classification?
Have you written any chapters in any particular Anatomy & Physiology textbooks surrounding the notion of hypertrophy?
What governmental agencies have deemed you an expert in this?
Because the notion of hypertrophy itself is a very rudimentary term in common Human Physiology. There's no complex science behind what happens in hypertrophy. If it took you 56 years to figure out the basic properties of hypertrophy, I'd say your brain has been suffering from some serious atrophy.
Added stress on an organ or particular muscle, causes said organ or muscle to increase in size to compensate for the added demands. Clearly, every organ & muscle has a cap to the size in which it can grow without the use of endogenous substances (The heart can only experience hypertrophy for so long before it reaches cardiac failure etc.).
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I have nothing against Vince but i would like to know this too. Seriously.
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I have nothing against Vince but i would like to know this too. Seriously.
If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
Vince you are OK in my books.. however please explain this theory you have? maybe you have posted it and if so i apologies.
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
So instead of answering the questions posed, you just respond with an insult?
Again, what deems you an expert in the realm of Hypertrophy? You can claim these things, but need to have proof behind these notions.
When someone is deemed an expert, they become an authority in the subject matter. Governmental bodies, medical schools, scientists and other physiology experts would resort to you for guidance regarding this.
What peer-reviewed articles have you published that have deemed you worthy to speak upon these matters?
Who has deemed you an expert? Where did you obtain your PhD on this subject? Where do you teach regarding this subject?
You claim that broscience should be left out of this thread, but nothing you spew differentiates itself from "Broscience".
An expert is someone widely recognized as a reliable source of technique or skill whose faculty for judging or deciding rightly, justly, or wisely is accorded authority and status by peers or the public in a specific well-distinguished domain. An expert, more generally, is a person with extensive knowledge or ability based on research, experience, or occupation and in a particular area of study. Experts are called in for advice on their respective subject, but they do not always agree on the particulars of a field of study. An expert can be believed, by virtue of credential, training, education, profession, publication or experience, to have special knowledge of a subject beyond that of the average person, sufficient that others may officially (and legally) rely upon the individual's opinion. Historically, an expert was referred to as a sage (Sophos). The individual was usually a profound thinker distinguished for wisdom and sound judgment.
Help us out here Vince,
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There is a strong correlation between the name vince and lack of bodybuilding knowledge
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I see nothing but flotsam and jetsam in this thread.
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So instead of answering the questions posed, you just respond with an insult?
Again, what deems you an expert in the realm of Hypertrophy? You can claim these things, but need to have proof behind these notions.
When someone is deemed an expert, they become an authority in the subject matter. Governmental bodies, medical schools, scientists and other physiology experts would resort to you for guidance regarding this.
What peer-reviewed articles have you published that have deemed you worthy to speak upon these matters?
Who has deemed you an expert? Where did you obtain your PhD on this subject? Where do you teach regarding this subject?
You claim that broscience should be left out of this thread, but nothing you spew differentiates itself from "Broscience".
An expert is someone widely recognized as a reliable source of technique or skill whose faculty for judging or deciding rightly, justly, or wisely is accorded authority and status by peers or the public in a specific well-distinguished domain. An expert, more generally, is a person with extensive knowledge or ability based on research, experience, or occupation and in a particular area of study. Experts are called in for advice on their respective subject, but they do not always agree on the particulars of a field of study. An expert can be believed, by virtue of credential, training, education, profession, publication or experience, to have special knowledge of a subject beyond that of the average person, sufficient that others may officially (and legally) rely upon the individual's opinion. Historically, an expert was referred to as a sage (Sophos). The individual was usually a profound thinker distinguished for wisdom and sound judgment.
Help us out here Vince,
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Vince is an expert secret photographer of kids in swimwear.
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I see nothing but flotsam and jetsam in this thread.
Doctor,
Maybe you can help us out here. In your professional opinion, what classifies one as an expert in any field?
For instance, in the realm of medicine, you have a wide variety of medical doctors that each practice their own discipline of medicine (Cardiology, Gastroenterology, Neurology, Pulmonology, Internal Medicine etc.). In the Internal Medicine discipline, you have millions of medical doctors that practice internal medicine, but not all are experts. Even within Internal Medicine, you have those that have risen above the rest to be deemed as "experts". Master Diagnosticians come to mind as experts, the type that Internists resort to when they can't come up with a proper diagnosis, even after beating themselves up over a slew of differential diagnoses. Likewise, when a general surgeon opens up a patient and finds out that they have a major problem in their thoracic cavity that is far beyond their expertise, they will typically refer that patient over to a Cardiothoracic surgeon for their own expertise.
Help us out Doctor, because I think the term "expert" is being passed around way too loosely here...
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"Expert".. i would say most people have "Respect" for a person with knowledge.
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Vince,
Can you give just a brief rundown of what your diet and training looks like? Calories, macros, training style? You look great in your avatar pic, when was that taken?
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Incoherent ramblings of a senile old fool
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Vince,
Can you give just a brief rundown of what your diet and training looks like? Calories, macros, training style? You look great in your avatar pic, when was that taken?
It was taken with a camera that went bang, if that helps.
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I was talking to a bloke recently and he just didn't get what I had to say about getting bigger. His experience made him conclude
that he needed anabolic drugs to get bigger arms. No matter what I said he didn't change his beliefs. He needed testosterone. That made me wonder.
I am twice as old as this guy and my adult experience is probably 4 times what he has gone through.
I now believe it takes an expert in hypertrophy to recognize another expert. There you are. No wonder the lads here don't
listen to what I have to say. They disregard my experience and ability to solve problems. They literally have no clue about the science.
By the way, training for bigger size takes a lot of motivation. The kind of dedication that makes one finish an advanced post graduate degree, etc.
As you get bigger it seems to take incrementally more intense workouts. No wonder few overcome this barrier and get huge.
As long as I don't reinjure myself I am on course to exceed my previous largest measured arms. That was in 1999 and 18 in cold.
Previous to that I reached 18 3/4 pumped arms back in 1975.
Disbelievers, scoffers, and broscience authorities need not contaminate this thread with negativity.
I'm not entirely convinced this is anything other than trolling because nobody could be that fucking delusional to write such a delicious opening salvo of pure bait.
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Ah, how refreshing to hear the advice of a genuine authority in life. There is nothing important in life except trying to stay alive.
So building arms will do just fine to pass the time.
I hear ya Vince and sadly the following timeless phrase is true:
You can't be an old head , on young shoulders.
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You complain that you're not listened to, sing your own praises about your knowledge, yet when I ask what you think you did wrong you ignore it?
By the way, the last time I measured my arms they outsized your best ever, with just a pumped bi and veins in my tris. So in your eyes I should be somebody who will listen.
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You complain that you're not listened to, sing your own praises about your knowledge, yet when I ask what you think you did wrong you ignore it?
By the way, the last time I measured my arms they outsized your best ever, with just a pumped bi and veins in my tris. So in your eyes I should be somebody who will listen.
Vince is a bullshit artist. He likes complaining and talking bullshit
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It was taken with a camera that went bang, if that helps.
And then a puff of smoke...lol
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He did build a time machine though, so props for that.
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Vince is an expert secret photographer of kids in swimwear.
yep he likes little junior
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He did build a time machine though, so props for that.
So he could travel back in time to show his dad how it feels to be molested by a 60 year old.
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So he could travel back in time to show his dad how it feels to be molested by a 60 year old.
Hahahahaha!
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Vince, just buy some dbol and forget that nonsense.
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your protocol is to ignore pain and keep training.
Vince don't you have a torn bicep?
Is this the huge breakthrough?!?
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So he could travel back in time to show his dad how it feels to be molested by a 60 year old.
;D ;D ;D
And give Arnold these secrets to massive arms.
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Personally I would think someone who calls himself an Aussie would conduct himself better than Vince has in this thread.
We hold to high academic standards around these parts.
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Personally I would think someone who calls himself an Aussie would conduct himself better than Vince has in this thread.
We hold to high academic standards around these parts.
He has a personal supercomputer at his place, what else do you want?
Vince, does it resemble this one:
(http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/stampede-1.jpg)
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Personally I would think someone who calls himself an Aussie would conduct himself better than Vince has in this thread.
We hold to high academic standards around these parts.
I hold an Australian citizenship but am definitely not an Aussie.
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I hold an Australian citizenship but am definitely not an Aussie.
Maybe if you stop holding it and pick up a dumbbell you'll get those results you want :D
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The questions I want answered is who will get to the 19" mark first halo or Vince
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Doctor,
Maybe you can help us out here. In your professional opinion, what classifies one as an expert in any field?
For instance, in the realm of medicine, you have a wide variety of medical doctors that each practice their own discipline of medicine (Cardiology, Gastroenterology, Neurology, Pulmonology, Internal Medicine etc.). In the Internal Medicine discipline, you have millions of medical doctors that practice internal medicine, but not all are experts. Even within Internal Medicine, you have those that have risen above the rest to be deemed as "experts". Master Diagnosticians come to mind as experts, the type that Internists resort to when they can't come up with a proper diagnosis, even after beating themselves up over a slew of differential diagnoses. Likewise, when a general surgeon opens up a patient and finds out that they have a major problem in their thoracic cavity that is far beyond their expertise, they will typically refer that patient over to a Cardiothoracic surgeon for their own expertise.
Help us out Doctor, because I think the term "expert" is being passed around way too loosely here...
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Well, I suppose 'expert,' is a general, relative term, and, as you say, around which too much has loosely passed. I think it suffice to say that Vince is no expert, but an interested, albeit well-read, layman.
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Experts possess Blue stars and Vince clearly doesn't...
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Vince
Can you just briefly describe what your training and diet look like? Any current pics? I dont know you or anyone else here so Im curious as to why all the hate. Do you have some kind of weird training method you are trying to sell everyone here?
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I'm not entirely convinced this is anything other than trolling because nobody could be that fucking delusional to write such a delicious opening salvo of pure bait.
its obvious that Vince's account belongs to someone else and has for about 2 years.
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
as usual when someone comes up with valid questions you dodge them and try to change the subject. If you had any knowledge about hypertrophy besides broscience you would have answered atleast a couple of omrs questions
but its not the first time you reveal yourself, like that time when you said something came from a book you have but you didnt remember the books name, your daughter had borrowed it and you couldnt call her and ask.
you dont know anymore then we other gymrats vince
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To Mr Vince Basille
From Howard
Dear Mr Basille,
This is GETBIG.com. Just have fun and post what you feel. Others will do the same. Thank you.
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
why the personal insult?
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so ya, still waiting on Basiles answers to onemorereps completely legitimate questions
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basille has never explained his theory of hypertrophy.
bag of hot air and hairy, fat filled 18" arms
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At my age staying the same is an achievement.
I knew your son , 1 with Greeko name ;D
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
Guess what Vincenzo, photographing other people private parts (like U do) = prosecution in NSW ;D
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Vince is an expert secret photographer of kids in swimwear.
Until surfers & beach volleyball chicks get him ;D ;D ;D
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Vince,
Just out of curiosity, what makes you an "expert" in the realm of hypertrophy?
What course work did you pursue in order to deem yourself worthy of being called an expert in Hypertrophy?
What peer-reviewed articles have you published that have somehow landed you this classification?
Have you written any chapters in any particular Anatomy & Physiology textbooks surrounding the notion of hypertrophy?
What governmental agencies have deemed you an expert in this?
Because the notion of hypertrophy itself is a very rudimentary term in common Human Physiology. There's no complex science behind what happens in hypertrophy. If it took you 56 years to figure out the basic properties of hypertrophy, I'd say your brain has been suffering from some serious atrophy.
Added stress on an organ or particular muscle, causes said organ or muscle to increase in size to compensate for the added demands. Clearly, every organ & muscle has a cap to the size in which it can grow without the use of endogenous substances (The heart can only experience hypertrophy for so long before it reaches cardiac failure etc.).
(http://geekvox.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/01.gif)
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/01/yes-rudy1.gif)
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so ya, still waiting on Basiles answers to onemorereps completely legitimate questions
x2, I have nothing against you Vince but you seems to be unable to answer simple questions and consider them defamatory. Claim to know certain things or deem yourself and expert on a subject and people will question you and want proof you are an expert in any field.
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Personally I would think someone who calls himself an Aussie would conduct himself better than Vince has in this thread.
We hold to high academic standards around these parts.
Vincenzo is Siciliano ;)
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Bodybuilders are slow learners, taking 56 years to figure out out to pump weights and inject AAS.
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Vince,
Can you give just a brief rundown of what your diet and training looks like? Calories, macros, training style? You look great in your avatar pic, when was that taken?
He is bold-old-fatso ............... ;D
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why the personal insult?
I stated a fact. It wasn't an insult.
Why would a moderator try to discredit someone knowledgeable on this forum? Maximum human hypertrophy is not an academic discipline because no scientist is doing research re the phenomenon.
I published an original theory of maximum hypertrophy which helped explain some important issues. No one has refuted my theory so that suggests it is probably true. The theory also explains the lack of hypertrophy in so many gym rats all over the world.
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I stated a fact. It wasn't an insult.
Why would a moderator try to discredit someone knowledgeable on this forum? Maximum human hypertrophy is not an academic discipline because no scientist is doing research re the phenomenon.
I published an original theory of maximum hypertrophy which helped explain some important issues. No one has refuted my theory so that suggests it is probably true. The theory also explains the lack of hypertrophy in so many gym rats all over the world.
doesnt matter how much u think youre hypertrophying vince end result is fat whiny man
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Why does everyone call Vince a pervert or peso, seriously?
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an 80 year old man behaving no better than some asswipe troll.
and he wonders why Ron won't give him blue stars. Blue stars are a sign of respect , and you have none for this forum.
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What is really quite odd in my mind is that Vince Basile posted a reply in this thread at around 3am, Sydney time.
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What is really quite odd in my mind is that Vince Basile posted a reply in this thread at around 3am, Sydney time.
Effects of Maralinga radiation ;D
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you can't just just make a claim and expect people to accept it.
please present the evidence that supports this hypertrophy theory
eagerly awaiting the above noted material
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an 80 year old man behaving no better than some asswipe troll.
and he wonders why Ron won't give him blue stars. Blue stars are a sign of respect , and you have none for this forum.
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you can't just just make a claim and expect people to accept it.
please present the evidence that supports this hypertrophy theory
eagerly awaiting the above noted material
Don't hold your breath.
Vince has been chirping about "hypertrophy" for years without offering anything of value other than a good laugh over his Rube Goldberg bicep machine.
(http://www.degreescape.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/rube-goldberg-cartoon-color.jpg)
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you can't just just make a claim and expect people to accept it.
please present the evidence that supports this hypertrophy theory
eagerly awaiting the above noted material
Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
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People with knowledge and expertise usually get support and acknowledgement from at least some other experts but Vince has failed to get any support whatsoever over many many years of writing on the net. Is it because Vince is so much smarter than EVERYBODY else, or is it something else? Vince complains about Getbig constantly but this is basically the only place that wont kick him out for being a jackass.
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLLuL.gif)
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That's just it Vince, people aren't saying they don't believe but want to know what you've done to back it up.
If person A told person B eating a portion of elephant turd a day would you make you put on 10 lbs of muscle a week, person B would want evidence or proof to back it up, not just do it.
Unless of course your names Jason Genoa.
Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
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elephant turd eh? that just might work
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That's just it Vince, people aren't saying they don't believe but want to know what you've done to back it up.
If person A told person B eating a portion of elephant turd a day would you make you put on 10 lbs of muscle a week, person B would want evidence or proof to back it up, not just do it.
Unless of course your names Jason Genoa.
dude it's based on personal experience. Take his word for it. Took him 56 years to build these 18 inch fatcepspythons. Proof is in the pudding
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As I wrote that I considered that too, I mean an elephants a BIG animal. ;D
elephant turd eh? that just might work
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
don't worry about the naysayers take comfort that the truth will prevail
go ahead and present the data that demonstrates that this theory is correct
can't wait to see this!
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Great job, guys. ::) Now we'll never know how hypertrophy works.
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I stated a fact. It wasn't an insult.
Why would a moderator try to discredit someone knowledgeable on this forum? Maximum human hypertrophy is not an academic discipline because no scientist is doing research re the phenomenon.
I published an original theory of maximum hypertrophy which helped explain some important issues. No one has refuted my theory so that suggests it is probably true. The theory also explains the lack of hypertrophy in so many gym rats all over the world.
Excellent Vince! Now, can we know in what peer-reviewed journal you published said theory?
You claim that a lot of Broscience is flung across the forum, but if you published something, I am assuming it was published in a science journal of some sort where other specialists in the field of Human Anatomy & Physiology could comment/critique (You know, Physiologists, Doctors respective of their own disciplines, Scientists, Biologists) your work.
Can you give us a link to the published article?
Folks, let's also leave out the defamatory comments. Vince's reputation shouldn't be attacked and he shouldn't be called names. One thing is to refute his theory, another thing is to call him names. I think this is a good medium for Vince to present his theory and potentially have us critique it a bit as to try and learn something in the process.
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Why didn't you just re-surface your last thread about this?
Before and after pics (with measurements) or shut the fuck up.
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
Vince instead of posting this , post your theory.
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
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I can remember like 10 years ago on the old Ironage site "Vince" used to talk about his theory of hypertrophy without ever actually stating what his theory was. A few of the mods used to get angry and said JUST TELL US WHAT IT IS!!!!!! I used to read it and found it quite amusing actually.
Whoever posts as Vince is a 100% troll using the identity of the real Vince. That has always been my belief and I am unanimous on that.
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Vince instead of posting this , post your theory.
Never gonna happen. A few years ago VanB, very patiently, and over weeks, tried to get Vince to elucidate. No dice. Like the alchemist muttering he can turning base metals into precious ones - all talk.
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he's been here 10 years surely if there was anything to tell he wouldve by now
my own recommendation on hypertrophy after a few months of training is this:
train a few times a week. eat more than you otherwise wouldve.
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His theory goes like this: keep the muscle sore constantly. That's it. This will make steroids and other drugs obsolete. Seriously, this is the theory.
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I think this is an excellent opportunity for Vince to post up a link to his published article and to also present his theory for open discussion.
We are all willing to learn something new, but first we have to have the material presented to us.
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I think this is an excellent opportunity for Vince to post up a link to his published article and to also present his theory for open discussion.
We are all willing to learn something new, but first we have to have the material presented to us.
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But we are too stupid to understand the material!
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But we are too stupid to understand the material!
Honestly, I don't understand what the hold up is now. If Vince published one article surrounding this subject matter, he should take advantage of the fact that he started a thread that is clearly begging for others to unearth his theory and present what he has.
I think this thread should be left up for Vince.
Maybe he is gathering his body of work.
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Honestly, I don't understand what the hold up is now. If Vince published one article surrounding this subject matter, he should take advantage of the fact that he started a thread that is clearly begging for others to unearth his theory and present what he has.
I think this thread should be left up for Vince.
Maybe he is gathering his body of work.
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He does say hypertrophy has never been studied. How he arrived at his conclusions I don't know. I mean no one has followed his protocols as he admits, so there is no real world evidence of it "working". His subject matter is himself... but he hasn't shown he has grown at all since his competitive days on Dianabol.
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He does say hypertrophy has never been studied. How he arrived at his conclusions I don't know. I mean no one has followed his protocols as he admits, so there is no real world evidence of it "working". His subject matter is himself... but he hasn't shown he has grown at all since his competitive days on Dianabol.
The crazy thing is that if you go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/), you can clearly see that the topic of hypertrophy as it relates to different facets of the human body has been studied in much detail throughout the years.
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I would like to take this opportunity to get Van Bilderass attention on the matter of the importance of caloric surplus and muscle mass gain. According to the current trend on getbig with the galeniko diet etc, more and more members are believing that a surplus of calories and carbohydrates merely inflate the muscles with glycogen, but does not necessarily grow them or is a requirement for growth. On the other hand I've never met a national level competitor who maintains on less than 4000kcal.
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It's best to ignore ImBasile.
Is a giant asshole to everyone
and wonders why he gets treated according / commands no respect from anyone.
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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His theory goes like this: keep the muscle sore constantly. That's it. This will make steroids and other drugs obsolete. Seriously, this is the theory.
vince also notes that his method results in injury as observed while testing it on himself
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The crazy thing is that if you go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/), you can clearly see that the topic of hypertrophy as it relates to different facets of the human body has been studied in much detail throughout the years.
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more proof that basile dont know jack shit about the sciemce behind hypertrophy. He will ignore your pist as he did with most of your questions earlier in this thread
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more proof that basile dont know jack shit about the sciemce behind hypertrophy. He will ignore your pist as he did with most of your questions earlier in this thread
He's one of those people who thinks Getbig is a bunch of idiots other than himself.
In reality this is the most intelligent group of posters to be found in the bb message board community, most moreso than some never-was self-proclaimed expert in hypertrophy.
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Only a retard wants to get "bigger" over the age of 40. If your pulling out a tape measure measuring your arms while over the age of 40, you may as well just call it a life and end it or at the very least check into a mental hospital...At an older age, people should be training to become healthy...Never bigger...
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Only a retard wants to get "bigger" over the age of 40. If your pulling out a tape measure measuring your arms while over the age of 40, you may as well just call it a life and end it or at the very least check into a mental hospital...At an older age, people should be training to become healthy...Never bigger...
but whatabout those guys that start out at 40+ maybe they want to take a shot at getting bigger
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but whatabout those guys that start out at 40+ maybe they want to take a shot at getting bigger
It's retarded. They should only be thinking about getting leaner and healthier. Anything else is mental illness...The evolution of man is not trying to get bigger but "smaller"...
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
your faith is similar to Jesus on the cross. We will never be able to understand your true wisdom, O mighty Basile.
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maybe basile is just misunderstood? a lot of geniuses are. and just because he isnt presenting proof doesnt mean he isnt onto something.
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yes vince should be given a chance to clarify his position
I expect to see something substantive put forward shortly
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Basile is still fighting for recognition and blue stars. Will he ever reach this nirvana?...
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The position I would like to see ImBasile take is the middle of the street in oncoming traffic.
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there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.
If I were Vince I'd be worried about the growing list of men in their 50s onwards getting charged for historical sex crimes.
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If I were Vince I'd be worried about the growing list of men in their 50s onwards getting charged for historical sex crimes.
Basile prefers to keep his sex crimes current
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If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.
Does one have to be an expert in the matter at hand to ask if another is an expert. If I was looking for someone to preform Lasix surgery do I have
to be an expert in Lasix to want to know what qualifications one has to preform the procedure.
You, Vince, keep calling yourself an expert but what makes you think so? I think these are valid questions from OMR. You may have been involved in bbing as a subject a lot longer than I have simply by virtue of your age but I certainly have been actively training far longer than you have. Actually in the gym doing bbing. I've been training consistently for over 42 years straight now.
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Basile prefers to keep his sex crimes current
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Does one have to be an expert in the matter at hand to ask if another is an expert. If I was looking for someone to preform Lasix surgery do I have
to be an expert in Lasix to want to know what qualifications one has to preform the procedure.
You, Vince, keep calling yourself an expert but what makes you think so? I think these are valid questions from OMR. You may have been involved in bbing as a subject a lot longer than I have simply by virtue of your age but I certainly have been actively training far longer than you have. Actually in the gym doing bbing. I've been training consistently for over 42 years straight now.
No, you are mistaken about experts. You assume that someone with qualifications is an expert, but you, personally, have no idea. You literally don't know.
Another specialist would know if that doctor is an expert. That won't stop you from going ahead with a procedure because we get referred, etc, and trust the profession.
I am an expert because I came up with a theory that explained more things about maximum hypertrophy than anything previously. It also explains why so many train hard but do not grow.
You are correct about longevity. Some people never comprehend some things no matter how long they are involved.
I accept that you are also a student of training and have some insights yourself.
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vince will enlighten the philistines shortly
as soon as he returns from the mountaintop
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how does a theory explain anything? Its just that, an idea, a guess, not factual, not proven.
People have theories all the time, they don't suddenly claim expert status.
No, you are mistaken about experts. You assume that someone with qualifications is an expert, but you, personally, have no idea. You literally don't know.
Another specialist would know if that doctor is an expert. That won't stop you from going ahead with a procedure because we get referred, etc, and trust the profession.
I am an expert because I came up with a theory that explained more things about maximum hypertrophy than anything previously. It also explains why so many train hard but do not grow.
You are correct about longevity. Some people never comprehend some things no matter how long they are involved.
I accept that you are also a student of training and have some insights yourself.
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how does a theory explain anything? Its just that, an idea, a guess, not factual, not proven.
People have theories all the time, they don't suddenly claim expert status.
Some understanding of the philosophy of science would clear up a lot of confusion when using terms like 'theory'.
I use the word theory claiming that if bodybuilders followed my method they would get bigger muscles. I refer mainly
to intermediate bodybuilders and preferably natural ones.
I agree with Mike Mentzer who said that there is one true explanation of any phenomenon. That means there is
one true theory that, when applied, leads to maximum human muscular hypertrophy from training. This theory accounts for all
growth from any and all methods and also the lack of growth from serious bodybuilding.
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People contribute to society in a lot of different ways and many old people are proud to have contributed worthwhile things to society.
Vince Basile continuously contributes absolutely nothing to society, even in his old age. The only thing he has contributed his some nonsense theory of hypertrophy on getbig, which most exercise physiologists probably never eve heard of. kudos to you for chasing hypertrophy at 72 years old.
Good way to spend your golden years.
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People contribute to society in a lot of different ways and many old people are proud to have contributed worthwhile things to society.
Vince Basile continuously contributes absolutely nothing to society, even in his old age. The only thing he has contributed his some nonsense theory of hypertrophy on getbig, which most exercise physiologists probably never eve heard of. kudos to you for chasing hypertrophy at 72 years old.
Good way to spend your golden years.
Hopefully you young fellows might mellow a bit as you age and won't be so nasty to others like you are on Getbig.
Why should I do things for people who say nasty things to and about me?
There are no golden years. Photography is my main hobby nowadays. I get out to take photos and processing them takes even more time.
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vince basile we are ready to examine your empirical findings now
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Hopefully you young fellows might mellow a bit as you age and won't be so nasty to others like you are on Getbig.
Why should I do things for people who say nasty things to and about me?
There are no golden years. Photography is my main hobby nowadays. I get out to take photos and processing them takes even more time.
Even if I said nice things about you, what the hell can you do for me anyway? Youre in Australia.
Mellow out? This coming from the guy who constantly attacks Goodrum. ::) ::)
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Even if I said nice things about you, what the hell can you do for me anyway? Youre in Australia.
Mellow out? This coming from the guy who constantly attacks Goodrum. ::) ::)
I have left Goodrum alone for years now. Others pick on him way more than I do. He deserves what he gets.
He makes up lies about me whereas he hates when I tell the truth about him. Go figure.
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There's only room for one Vince on getbig and we choose the dick sucking, fudge packing, cross eyed dude banging black one.
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There's only room for one Vince on getbig and we choose the dick sucking, fudge packing, cross eyed dude banging black one.
LOL. About time, Chaos!
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There's only room for one Vince on getbig and we choose the dick sucking, fudge packing, cross eyed dude banging black one.
;D;D I laughed
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Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.
People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time
posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves
oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few
enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who
discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of
obstacles and universal ignorance.
Go for it Vince.
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Vince,
Whenever you're ready, feel free to post both a detailed explanation of your theory and also the article you published and the name of the journal under which it can be found.
This thread has gone on for long enough and we have yet to read about the theory and/or receive an article to closely examine.
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Vince,
Whenever you're ready, feel free to post both a detailed explanation of your theory and also the article you published and the name of the journal under which it can be found.
This thread has gone on for long enough and we have yet to read about the theory and/or receive an article to closely examine.
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There is no theory. Its the ramblings of a delusional, old, bitter man.
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There is no theory. Its the ramblings of a delusional, old, bitter man.
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Vince,
Whenever you're ready, feel free to post both a detailed explanation of your theory and also the article you published and the name of the journal under which it can be found.
This thread has gone on for long enough and we have yet to read about the theory and/or receive an article to closely examine.
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No paper has been found in the England Journal of BroScience :-\
"The New England Journal Of BroScience is a peer-reviewed journal that publishes papers on original research, review articles, and case reports."
https://www.facebook.com/nejbroscience/info?tab=page_info
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There is no theory. Its the ramblings of a delusional, old, bitter man.
I don't understand. This thread was created 3 days ago with Vince boasting about his being an expert.
He wrote these gems:
I am twice as old as this guy and my adult experience is probably 4 times what he has gone through.
I now believe it takes an expert in hypertrophy to recognize another expert. There you are.
No wonder the lads here don't listen to what I have to say. They disregard my experience and ability to solve problems.
They literally have no clue about the science.
Disbelievers, scoffers, and broscience authorities need not contaminate this thread with negativity.
Even after boasting about his "expertise" and even after having made this thread 3 days ago, there is still no theory presented or article that we could critique and properly analyze.
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Van B and MrTurbo both nailed Vince's theory of hypertrophy - keep the muscle constantly sore. DOMS is all that matters. Don't stop until you injure the muscle.
I'm not even joking.
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Isn't a muscle growing and repairing after the sore stage, when it's recovered from being broken down? If it's constantly sore when can it repair?
Van B and MrTurbo both nailed Vince's theory of hypertrophy - keep the muscle constantly sore. DOMS is all that matters. Don't stop until you injure the muscle.
I'm not even joking.
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I have a theory that Basile is an imbecile.
I'm an expert in stupidity and nobody has refuted my theory, so it must be true.
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There's only room for one Vince on getbig and we choose the dick sucking, fudge packing, cross eyed dude banging black one.
He won't recover.
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Hopefully you young fellows might mellow a bit as you age and won't be so nasty to others like you are on Getbig.
Why should I do things for people who say nasty things to and about me?
There are no golden years. Photography is my main hobby nowadays. I get out to take photos and processing them takes even more time.
Honestly, I like your pictures, but that processed blue horizon looks almost as horrible as your blue (pardon) navy fonts.
That's right, you do nothing but claiming, pretending and whining. Regarding age, YOU might learn something from those 'young fellows', but first you need to give up your bitterness, since that leads to nothing.
Thank you, and what you?
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Vince,
please elaborate on your thoughts regarding the precise relationship between persistent DOMS and maximum hypertrophy
what did you notice?
what exactly is going on here?
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Vince,
please elaborate on your thoughts regarding the precise relationship between persistent DOMS and maximum hypertrophy
what did you notice?
what exactly is going on here?
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Whenever you're ready Vince...
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Whenever you're ready Vince...
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i better dont hold my breath on that one
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why not focus on building a machine that would make our dicks bigger, we can get bigger biceps with some weights and steroids
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Van B and MrTurbo both nailed Vince's theory of hypertrophy - keep the muscle constantly sore. DOMS is all that matters. Don't stop until you injure the muscle.
I'm not even joking.
He's had exactly one subject he's tested his theory on: himself. That's not science. Even worse, in several decades he never managed to improve on his Dianabol physique. So where is the evidence or the "science"? He cites Mike Mentzer often but Mike wasn't a scientist, he was some kind of philosopher I guess or more correctly had a "philosophical" outlook on things.
Basile did admit fairly recently that an increase in training loads is a factor in hypertrophy and I agree, that's what the research suggests. How soreness factors into hypertrophy I don't know as we know soreness is not necessary to grow. Some people don't get sore, even Vince's idol Mentzer said he never got sore except when starting training after a lay-off. Soreness might be a good "sign" I guess but regardless of levels of soreness if the training loads keep increasing you are growing (if a few other factors are kept constant, such as TUT or volume etc).
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I so much want to jump in here and defend the old guy (I'm an old guy). However, I can not find a single thing to defend. Just ramblings from a 'use to be' (I'm a use to be). I stopped lifting at age 72 after 60 years hoisting iron. 2 years now only 25 pushups in the morning and lots of mountain hiking. I at least look like an 'old guy' who 'use to be' a Bodybuilder.
I can tell you all about atrophy....but why bore you.
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Even if I said nice things about you, what the hell can you do for me anyway? Youre in Australia.
Mellow out? This coming from the guy who constantly attacks Goodrum. ::) ::)
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I so much want to jump in here and defend the old guy (I'm an old guy). However, I can not find a single thing to defend. Just ramblings from a 'use to be' (I'm a use to be). I stopped lifting at age 72 after 60 years hoisting iron. 2 years now only 25 pushups in the morning and lots of mountain hiking. I at least look like an 'old guy' who 'use to be' a Bodybuilder.
I can tell you all about atrophy....but why bore you.
Being about your age (70 years old), I recently resumed exercising at the gym after and extended layoff for a variety of reasons including some health issues. I use the term exercising because what I am doing is a combination of cardio and weight training using relatively low weight resistance.
For example the first day back, when I did squats, I used just the bar, focusing instead on form and going really deep. After two weeks and 6 visits to the gym, I was using 35 lb. plates on each side for my final 10 rep set. On other movements the resistance is not much different than it was when I first started lifting as a kid. This feels really good and right for my body.
It's incredible to think it took me over 50 years to come to the realization that more is not always better. Bigger is sometimes just bigger and not healthier. In the past, I've massed up to 225 lbs. much of it muscle (I prefer to believe). These days, I weigh 185 lbs with a 32" waist. I have not taken other measurements because I don't care that much about arm or leg size as long as I look decent in clothes. Amazingly, the low resistance squats seem to be helping alleviate knee pain.
Vince can hold onto his dream of growing bigger arms against all odds. These are choices we make. I wish him every success in this endeavor because it seems to be what drives and inspires him to hit the gym. Me....I'm way past wanting to look like a superhero at all costs.
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Vince,
Whenever you're ready, feel free to post both a detailed explanation of your theory and also the article you published and the name of the journal under which it can be found.
This thread has gone on for long enough and we have yet to read about the theory and/or receive an article to closely examine.
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Why are you hijacking this thread? I don't get why moderators have to enter discussions. I made a statement and that was that. There is no need for me to have to defend myself.
I find such interference a form of bullying. The responses in this thread indicate a level of ignorance and hostility that shouldn't be tolerated on an open forum. Sure, we all
know what to expect here but this is not a fair forum when anonymous people can defame me openly, etc.
This is not a discussion about an expert but who can detect such people. That is the only point I wanted to make. It is clear to me from the responses that there are no other experts here
in hypertrophy. A few students of hypertrophy such as Van B and Pellius which I acknowledge.
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Why are you hijacking this thread? I don't get why moderators have to enter discussions. I made a statement and that was that. There is no need for me to have to defend myself.
I find such interference a form of bullying. The responses in this thread indicate a level of ignorance and hostility that shouldn't be tolerated on an open forum. Sure, we all
know what to expect here but this is not a fair forum when anonymous people can defame me openly, etc.
This is not a discussion about an expert but who can detect such people. That is the only point I wanted to make. It is clear to me from the responses that there are no other experts here
in hypertrophy. A few students of hypertrophy such as Van B and Pellius which I acknowledge.
Now this decrepit outdated geezer thinks mods shouldn't have and express opinions. ::)
Would you just get caught and arrested already! ::)
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Now this decrepit outdated geezer thinks mods shouldn't have and express opinions. ::)
Would you just get caught and arrested already! ::)
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Why are you hijacking this thread? I don't get why moderators have to enter discussions. I made a statement and that was that. There is no need for me to have to defend myself.
I find such interference a form of bullying. The responses in this thread indicate a level of ignorance and hostility that shouldn't be tolerated on an open forum. Sure, we all
know what to expect here but this is not a fair forum when anonymous people can defame me openly, etc.
This is not a discussion about an expert but who can detect such people. That is the only point I wanted to make. It is clear to me from the responses that there are no other experts here
in hypertrophy. A few students of hypertrophy such as Van B and Pellius which I acknowledge.
Oh, I see...
So, after all is said and done, you still won't post up your theory in detail or even an article for us to learn from.
No problem Vince, we understand.
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P.S. By the way, we have gone ahead and warned members about openly defaming you with remarks that have nothing to do with your Hypertrophy discussion. The least you can is show us a little regarding your theory.
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Vince why so sensitive? This is the new age either adapt or fall off the wagon
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Oh, I see...
So, after all is said and done, you still won't post up your theory in detail or even an article for us to learn from.
No problem Vince, we understand.
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P.S. By the way, we have gone ahead and warned members about openly defaming you with remarks that have nothing to do with your Hypertrophy discussion. The least you can is show us a little regarding your theory.
You seem to have an agenda to discredit me. First about Arnold and now my theory on hypertrophy.
Feel free to search the internet for articles on my theory.
When people behave like educated people they will get considered responses from me.
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Vince is more sensitive each day what a baby sickenning part he enjoys being treated like a pansy
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here's a couple thoughts that may help the experts.
DOMS is an indicator of microtrauma
continually training a muscle in this state will most certainly cause it to get bigger in a hurry
this is what I gather Vince is observing.
The muscle is getting bigger but is it actually growing?
inquiring minds want to know!
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You seem to have an agenda to discredit me. First about Arnold and now my theory on hypertrophy.
Feel free to search the internet for articles on my theory.
When people behave like educated people they will get considered responses from me.
why isnt your theory working for you?
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here's a couple thoughts that may help the experts.
DOMS is an indicator of microtrauma
continually training a muscle in this state will most certainly cause it to get bigger in a hurry
this is what I gather Vince is observing.
The muscle is getting bigger but is it actually growing?
inquiring minds want to know!
possibly i used to do fullbody everyday
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possibly i used to do fullbody everyday
What's your workout like these days Johnny?
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You seem to have an agenda to discredit me. First about Arnold and now my theory on hypertrophy.
Feel free to search the internet for articles on my theory.
When people behave like educated people they will get considered responses from me.
Ok, so you simply created this thread to brag then, yes?
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If you google "Vince Basile Hypertrophy" you just get a bunch of inane ramblings on message boards.
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possibly i used to do fullbody everyday
one time my arm got stung by a wasp
I put 1 inch on my arm in a day and it got real sore
what's going on here? how did that happen?
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did anybody know that as we age the bodys anti-inflammatory responses diminish?
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You seem to have an agenda to discredit me. First about Arnold and now my theory on hypertrophy.
Feel free to search the internet for articles on my theory.
When people behave like educated people they will get considered responses from me.
Do you really want getbiggers googling the shit out of your name, dragging up your past?
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I just figured something out. It didn't take 56 years though
regarding vince basiles New Theory of Hypertrophy
his data describe a set of phenomena that refute his own conclusions;
if you send an old man to the gym and overtrain him, his muscles get bigger fast and he will be very sore.
the older fellow may be tempted to conclude that the muscle is growing but in fact what is occurring is simply severe inflammation which leads to injury.
this combination of amplified age related swelling and diminished capacity for reasoning I would call The Basile Effect
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You seem to have an agenda to discredit me. First about Arnold and now my theory on hypertrophy.
Feel free to search the internet for articles on my theory.
When people behave like educated people they will get considered responses from me.
You do not have a "theory" on hypertrophy, you moron.
You have a hypothesis about hypertrophy. "Theory" is the pinnacle of scientific success. You have at best a hypothesis.
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Oh man, super funny thread here, EPIC ball busting towards Basile, yet he responds very intelligently. No excuse to look as you do now if not injured man. Just plain fat. Sorry, but it's the truth.
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Oh man, super funny thread here, EPIC ball busting towards Basile, yet he responds very intelligently. No excuse to look as you do now if not injured man. Just plain fat. Sorry, but it's the truth.
"responds very intelligently"? Are you retarded? Not a lick of intelligence in his posts. Lol @ you!
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"responds very intelligently"? Are you retarded? Not a lick of intelligence in his posts. Lol @ you!
ok, he's well spoken. Can you give him that?
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Mass 04 used to do a great Basile impression.
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ok, he's well spoken. Can you give him that?
You're easily impressed, I'll give you that.
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You're easily impressed, I'll give you that.
What do you expect? This is get big...
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I've been here around 8 yrs and I've yet to hear any theory on hypertrophy from Vince, the same thing happens every single time, endless threads with no explanations
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I've been here around 8 yrs and I've yet to hear any theory on hypertrophy from Vince, the same thing happens every single time, endless threads with no explanations
Don't give him too much credit. Its not a theory. Its a hypothesis. It only becomes a theory after it has sound scientific backing.
At most, he has a hypothesis, but Id even argue that its not even well constructed enough to be a hypothesis.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
LOL!!! That is one weird ass looking bicep machine.....
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I'm more concerned about the Chris Isaak tshirt and photoshopped neck.
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hahaha, who the hell trains in a Chris Isaak shirt, lol! I haven't heard that name in so long...
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Don't give him too much credit. Its not a theory. Its a hypothesis. It only becomes a theory after it has sound scientific backing.
At most, he has a hypothesis, but Id even argue that its not even well constructed enough to be a hypothesis.
I use the concept theory as a student of the philosophy of science would. That is what I have my masters degree in.
Unless my theory is falsified I will continue to uphold it. I have too much anecdotal evidence that supports what I believe.
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I use the concept theory as a student of the philosophy of science would. That is what I have my masters degree in.
Unless my theory is falsified I will continue to uphold it. I have too much anecdotal evidence that supports what I believe.
Sorry, but in the scientific world your hypothesis is not a theory.
Anecdotal evidence is one of the worst form of evidence there is. No hypothesis ever became a theory based off of anecdotal evidence.
It would be impossible to falsify your theory because you have not proven anything yet. You just have a hypothesis, which has not translated into anything remotely a theory.
What you believe and what you could prove are two totally different things. That is not how science works.
What I see is a bunch of ramblings from a creepy old man.
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LOL!!! That is one weird ass looking bicep machine.....
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Sorry, but in the scientific world your hypothesis is not a theory.
Anecdotal evidence is one of the worst form of evidence there is. No hypothesis ever became a theory based off of anecdotal evidence.
It would be impossible to falsify your theory because you have not proven anything yet. You just have a hypothesis, which has not translated into anything remotely a theory.
What you believe and what you could prove are two totally different things. That is not how science works.
What I see is a bunch of ramblings from a creepy old man.
You don't know what you are talking about. Hope this helps.
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You don't know what you are talking about. Hope this helps.
haha, coming from a guy who has never posted what his "theory" is, has no scientific evidence of his "theory" and says I do not know what I am talking about lol. You would be laughed at in the scientific community.
Youre a stupid, fat old man. Give it up.
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haha, coming from a guy who has never posted what his "theory" is, has no scientific evidence of his "theory" and says I do not know what I am talking about lol. You would be laughed at in the scientific community.
Youre a stupid, fat old man. Give it up.
Be careful you might get taken to court.
Basil and Junior are not screwing around anymore ::)
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Be careful you might get taken to court.
Basil and Junior are not screwing around anymore ::)
Basile is more delusional than goodrum.
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vince please don't promote this training approach any longer
it doesn't work and is harmful to those subjected to it
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vince please don't promote this training approach any longer
it doesn't work and is harmful to those subjected to it
but the old delusional moron has anecdotal evidence that it works ::) ::)
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but the old delusional moron has anecdotal evidence that it works ::) ::)
the basile effect is a danger to society!
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You don't know what you are talking about. Hope this helps.
I think people are wasting their time on this one...... Best to give up. Basile is immune to rational thinking.
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Hmm.
Thought for sure this was a coming out party.
Nevermind.
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the basile effect is a danger to society!
1 day surfers, clubbies, life guards or beach volleyball chicks will get him ;D
Hey Vincenzo come to Bondi beach this weekend & try to photograph topless females (or kiddies) ;D
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Haha sf1900 is running cirkles around vince basile..vince doesnt even know what to answer him
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I don't get it either, are we meant to just read the post and not ask questions as we aren't educated enough to do so? Don't we learn by asking questions? why is asking for proof of the findings or asking what makes him an expert defamatory?
Ok, so you simply created this thread to brag then, yes?
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I have a theory about this contraption: It is inferior to a dumbell when it comes to training biceps
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You don't know what you are talking about. Hope this helps.
Actually, he's dead on, science-wise. You? Not so much.
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Sorry, but in the scientific world your hypothesis is not a theory.
Anecdotal evidence is one of the worst form of evidence there is. No hypothesis ever became a theory based off of anecdotal evidence.
It would be impossible to falsify your theory because you have not proven anything yet. You just have a hypothesis, which has not translated into anything remotely a theory.
What you believe and what you could prove are two totally different things. That is not how science works.
What I see is a bunch of ramblings from a creepy old man.
Word!
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I have a theory about this contraption: It is inferior to a dumbell when it comes to training biceps
But are you an expert?
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But are you an expert?
http://suppversity.blogspot.nl/2011/07/suppversity-emg-series-biceps-brachii.html
You're welcome
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http://suppversity.blogspot.nl/2011/07/suppversity-emg-series-biceps-brachii.html
You're welcome
I prefer the giant rubberbands.
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I prefer the giant rubberbands.
Resistance bands? I love them too and sometimes combine them with dumbbells (i.e. together)
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9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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you see the compassion part of our psych tries to collab with vince unfortunatley he doesnt use a similiar gesture . He wont change until death, alot of old people are this way
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you see the compassion part of our psych tries to collab with vince unfortunatley he doesnt use a similiar gesture . He wont change until death, alot of old people are this way
Vince is not even able to have an intelligent conversation about the dangers of that damn heme-iron.
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Haha sf1900 is running cirkles around vince basile..vince doesnt even know what to answer him
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Basil is too stuck in his world of "hypertrophy" to step outside his delusions and see the bigger picture. This is what happens when youre 72 and still chasing a dream of trying to achieve big arms. ::) ::)
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http://suppversity.blogspot.nl/2011/07/suppversity-emg-series-biceps-brachii.html
You're welcome
i always start off every exercise with scott curls. i rarely even do barbell curls. you can see how far down the list they are. i think for biceps its more important to do strict movements, instead of just throwing weight around on a barbell curl.
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you see the compassion part of our psych tries to collab with vince unfortunatley he doesnt use a similiar gesture . He wont change until death, alot of old people are this way
And some of us are open to new ideas, which is why we converse with young people who have inquisitive minds and fresh imaginations.
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9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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:D
and thats the nicest way to put it!
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9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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Nice!! OMR owning Basil!
100% right on...
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I was talking to a bloke recently and he just didn't get what I had to say about getting bigger. His experience made him conclude
that he needed anabolic drugs to get bigger arms. No matter what I said he didn't change his beliefs. He needed testosterone. That made me wonder.
I am twice as old as this guy and my adult experience is probably 4 times what he has gone through.
I now believe it takes an expert in hypertrophy to recognize another expert. There you are. No wonder the lads here don't
listen to what I have to say. They disregard my experience and ability to solve problems. They literally have no clue about the science.
By the way, training for bigger size takes a lot of motivation. The kind of dedication that makes one finish an advanced post graduate degree, etc.
As you get bigger it seems to take incrementally more intense workouts. No wonder few overcome this barrier and get huge.
As long as I don't reinjure myself I am on course to exceed my previous largest measured arms. That was in 1999 and 18 in cold.
Previous to that I reached 18 3/4 pumped arms back in 1975.
Disbelievers, scoffers, and broscience authorities need not contaminate this thread with negativity.
Mike Mentzer's upper arms measured at 18 5/8" at his peak (according to him). Your arms were 1/8" larger than Mike's! ;D
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vince basile damaged himself while applying his deranged principles
undeterred he seeks unwitting subjects for further exploration of the limits of hypertrophy
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why did vince photoshop his neck in the bicep machine picture ???
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Don't be that way, Vince.
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i always start off every exercise with scott curls. i rarely even do barbell curls. you can see how far down the list they are. i think for biceps its more important to do strict movements, instead of just throwing weight around on a barbell curl.
Good call, I should perform Scott curls more often. I have a saying about BB curls: "I don't do them often (they fuck with my joints), but when I do, then I perform them in the squat rack" ;D
I believe that a few cheat curls are fine, but throwing is for imbeciles and leads to "Branch-arms"..
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9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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You don't know what you are talking about re science or hypertrophy so please spare me the insults. Shame on you as a person and moderator.
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You don't know what you are talking about re science or hypertrophy so please spare me the insults. Shame on you as a person and moderator.
why dont you fuck off to your buddys new forum?
lets start a ban basile movement
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You don't know what you are talking about re science or hypertrophy so please spare me the insults. Shame on you as a person and moderator.
This is how a scientist responds to a request for data?
So why start the thread?
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This.
9 pages in and the "so-called" expert has yet to post his theory or article.
By the way Basile, SF1900 is absolutely right. A theory is used to explain how things work and is typically based on facts. Theories are also accepted by scientists and are generally repeatedly tested by experiments and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
At best, you "probably" have a hypothesis. Hopefully, you will step down from the pedestal you built yourself and present something for us to evaluate. Realize that some of us actually have graduate degrees in different branches of science and are no strangers to research. So, we welcome your alleged theory with open arms. Also, the topic of Hypertrophy has been studied ad nauseam for hundreds of years, so at best, you're probably just regurgitating shit that was already known.
As of now, with nothing to show for all the boasting you do, you are looking like an imbecile.
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And this. Brutal owning. I'll always laugh at the Basile Photoshops too. They're timeless.
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Hahahahaha! Fucking hilarious and still an understatement.
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These 80+ year old women seem to have achieved what Vince Basile cannot:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18248533
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You don't know what you are talking about re science or hypertrophy so please spare me the insults. Shame on you as a person and moderator.
How doesn't he know what he is talking about? He gave a perfect definition of theory. Here is it explained from two science websites.
Hypotheses and theories are part of the scientific method — the process of asking and answering questions by experimentation. The method exists to ensure that science is as accurate as possible in explaining the world and that arguments rely on observable evidence. The main components of the scientific method are that experiments should be repeatable, so other scientists can verify or nullify the results; data should be collected by observation and experimentation; and experiments should be documented and shared.
A theory not only explains known facts; it also allows scientists to make predictions of what they should observe if a theory is true. Scientific theories are testable. New evidence should be compatible with a theory. If it isn't, the theory is refined or rejected. The longer the central elements of a theory hold--the more observations it predicts, the more tests it passes, the more facts it explains--the stronger the theory.
Based on those two above statements, you do not know what a theory is. You do not even have a hypothesis. You're a delusional, lonely, old man. Just give it up and accept the fact that you do not have a theory on hypertrophy. You never will have a theory. When you die, no one will remember your shitty ideas because it was never formulated into a theory, let alone a workable hypothesis. People that come across getbig in years to come, will look at your rants as delusional. You lose.
Unfortunately, even in the span of 56 years, you have not figured out what an idiot you are.
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Sad to read this thread.
I have a pretty healthy scientific curiosity and I don't give a flying fuck whether Vince is a quack, I would have given his theorems the time of day, considering he has expended so much time describing their virtues. Shit, plenty of people were prepared to listen to Adonis's radicalism.
After 10 pages, it seems abundantly clear that Vincent has hit what I would deem the "troll barrier", where the bullshitter can no longer pass, for he has boasted so tremendously and expended all forms of distraction, he is now forced to openly ignore any calls for verification in favour of unrighteous indignation.
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You don't know what you are talking about re science or hypertrophy so please spare me the insults. Shame on you as a person and moderator.
...Says the guy that after 10-pages has yet to post a single reputable theory or article of his own.
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Clearly, you have no basis to stand on.
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