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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: whitewidow on November 28, 2014, 04:56:39 AM
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I know alot of us take pre-work-outs what is the hottest one on the market right now! I know craaze was the shit till it got pulled ,jack3D was good as well but I believe that ois off the market as well. Blackstones angel dust I heard was good but also heard they had to change that formula so that leaves us with what? I personally am not up on the newest pre-workout when they pulled craze I started using old-school VPX Redline again
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Coffee, Bronk-Aid and aspirin.
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Kill it by 5 percent nutrition
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Coffee, Bronk-Aid and aspirin.
ECA stack. would be nice if they let us by bronkaid over the counter. In my state you can;t even by pseudoephedrine over the counter.
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In Fl., one can get bronk aid otc but you have to sign a form. Rednecks make meth out of it.
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In Fl., one can get bronk aid otc but you have to sign a form. Rednecks make meth out of it.
we can;t buy even pseudoephedrine in my state or bronkaid. You need a doctor to call it in. I would have to drive 20 minutes to another state just for a OTC decongestant
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Mr. Hyde
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MYOKEM...
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tren suspension,methyltren and halo are the best pre workouts ive had
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Don't forget the best of them all
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Esp by metabolic nutrition
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Original geeked
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tren suspension,methyltren and halo are the best pre workouts ive had
well I have Test prop and Methyl-Tren and I have tried halo numerous times and I have used Test suspension numerous times. My take Test suspension is the shit! I have not tried the Methyl-Tren yet but I do have some I just got a few weeks ago but I'm saving it till I get a little leaner. I had one great batch of halo but that's a diffrent feeling. Those are not stimulants. I know Methyl-tren and halo make you more agressive but I need something to give me a wake-up call.
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Meth
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Meth
No thanks. I'll try the Methyl-Tren first. hell they are probably just as harsh on your body but methyl-tren isn't addictive.
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Coffee with L arginine
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200mg caffeine
your given dose of ephedrine
3 gr l tyrosine
200mg dmae
You'd be surprised how well this works and how cheap it is...
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200mg caffeine
your given dose of ephedrine
3 gr l tyrosine
200mg dmae
You'd be surprised how well this works and how cheap it is...
This
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I know alot of us take pre-work-outs what is the hottest one on the market right now! I know craaze was the shit till it got pulled ,jack3D was good as well but I believe that ois off the market as well. Blackstones angel dust I heard was good but also heard they had to change that formula so that leaves us with what? I personally am not up on the newest pre-workout when they pulled craze I started using old-school VPX Redline again
The people that run the juice bar at my gym sell all of that shit. I'll ask them
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well I have Test prop and Methyl-Tren and I have tried halo numerous times and I have used Test suspension numerous times. My take Test suspension is the shit! I have not tried the Methyl-Tren yet but I do have some I just got a few weeks ago but I'm saving it till I get a little leaner. I had one great batch of halo but that's a diffrent feeling. Those are not stimulants. I know Methyl-tren and halo make you more agressive but I need something to give me a wake-up call.
Didnt like test suspension pip was redic! Methlytren is ok nothing amazing imo tren suspension is better.
Bit of clen and caffiene for the stims maybe?
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gaspari's shit used to trace amounts of steroids in it. ultimate orange years back...
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gaspari's shit used to trace amounts of steroids in it. ultimate orange years back...
Even if trace amounts were left (Ug lab must have been using the pill press the previous night...) the amounts would not produce anything that would translate into real life gains.
Does anyone do a cycle with "trace amounts of gear?" not really....
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The one with the most unresearched and dangerous ingredients is always the best one according to what I gather from "bodybuilders"
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The one with the most unresearched and dangerous ingredients is always the best one according to what I gather from "bodybuilders"
The reason why I don't touch them. Sure they may "work" but track history of them? They all get pulled off for some reason concerning safety for the whole process to happen all over again.
NO shotgun was the last one I ever bought a long time ago.
Got some a year back or so, did not work the same, not even close.
Maybe they do put steroids on them afterall!?
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The reason why I don't touch them. Sure they may "work" but track history of them? They all get pulled off for some reason concerning safety for the whole process to happen all over again.
NO shotgun was the last one I ever bought a long time ago.
Got some a year back or so, did not work the same, not even close.
Maybe they do put steroids on them afterall!?
They put methamphetamines in them.
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200mg caffeine
your given dose of ephedrine
3 gr l tyrosine
200mg dmae
You'd be surprised how well this works and how cheap it is...
If someone needs/depends on high amounts of caffeine and/or ephedrine to get a good workout, it's nothing more than a crutch. You have a serious stim addiction.
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If someone needs/depends on high amounts of caffeine and/or ephedrine to get a good workout, it's nothing more than a crutch. You have a serious stim addiction.
8-12mg of ephedrine a stim addiction? Ok....
200mg caffeine is just over 2 cups of coffee.
The others are nootropics to make it better.
L-tyrosine, btw is actually GOOD for your adrenal glands... And used Just pre workout 4 times a week, I use less ephedrine in that time than most use in one dose.
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8-12mg of ephedrine a stim addiction? Ok....
200mg caffeine is just over 2 cups of coffee.
The others are nootropics to make it better.
L-tyrosine, btw is actually GOOD for your adrenal glands... And used Just pre workout 4 times a week, I use less ephedrine in that time than most use in one dose.
Nootropics are fine, but daily use of E and C is murder on your prostate gland, adrenals and cause insulin resistance. The tyrosine does not negate the side-effects of those stims.
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If someone needs/depends on high amounts of caffeine and/or ephedrine to get a good workout, it's nothing more than a crutch. You have a serious stim addiction.
I agree with this. A simple cup of coffee should be all you need. If you're getting enough sleep and eating well you should have more than enough energy for an intense workout.
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one good hit of "mary jane" in the parking lot bruhs.
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No pre w/o powder can beat a strong will power...
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Kill it by 5 percent nutrition
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Don't forget the best of them all
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That's not a preworkout drink. You may be referring to Nano Vapor, the original version of which was great.
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Nootropics are fine, but daily use of E and C is murder on your prostate gland, adrenals and cause insulin resistance. The tyrosine does not negate the side-effects of those stims.
caffeine consumption of 600mg or less daily is fine.
Stop being such a drama queen over this stuff. This is bb'ing and some measures that must be taken to help get there, the effects you speak of are minimal and not to be worried about especially how I dose it.
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If someone needs/depends on high amounts of caffeine and/or ephedrine to get a good workout, it's nothing more than a crutch. You have a serious stim addiction.
Agreed- these fools are lame.. Back when I was competing heavy; none of this shit even existed!! I would come out of morning college classes, then head to work at a semi manual job till 5:00 P.M... From there I would train for 1 1/2 hours 4 times week... Never even thought about needing a 'boost' to get through my sessions... Trained brutally hard and got to my all time huge... 'Pre- workout'? What the hell is that!!
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those who like to poo poo on these products, perhaps try them. See how many more reps you can get, enjoy the extra intensity.
Why not?
Or just keep on living in the stone ages if you're happy as such but ya'll sound like a bunch of bitter old men.
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Chaos and Pain: Cannibal Ferox.
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Nothing.
Why not just go and lift weights instead. Its not like its going to make any difference.
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Nothing.
Why not just go and lift weights instead. Its not like its going to make any difference.
Oh brother ::)
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Pre JYM is decent...if your'e more into stims Mr hyde or Angel dust.
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Oh brother ::)
Pathetic if someone can`t even go to the gym without a placebo drink.
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Pathetic if someone can`t even go to the gym without a placebo drink.
Oh brother ::)
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I honestly just started using them but they do help speed up my metabolism that is what I like about them. They are def not Placebo! fuck man crazy had potent amphetamines in them how is taking a amphetamine placebo? people failed the wada test because of craze. That was good stuff same with jack3D,I have always liked VPX Redline, I wish Blackstone had some of the original angel dust but I will try the new blend of it. I'll still use a ECA stack and I buy real ephdra from overseas so no placebo there. Plus I don;t like drinking s shitload of pre-work-out some nights maybe half a regular dose.
I think they have a place. They have helped speed up my metabolism and I can get through a work-out quicker. Trust me I know what is a placebo and what isn't when you start sweating more and are more friendly for some reason that's because of the pre-workout not because your just in a good mood for some reason.
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The best formulated PWO is PreOG. Just have everything you need.
Its expensive tho, after i run out of it i will just use a home made blend.
I like citrulline or agmatine for pumps, caffeine for energy.
Just stick to proven and safe ingredients, you just never know whats in those PWO supps.
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That's not a preworkout drink. You may be referring to Nano Vapor, the original version of which was great.
It can be used as a preworkout as well >:(
While watching
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caffeine consumption of 600mg or less daily is fine.
Stop being such a drama queen over this stuff. This is bb'ing and some measures that must be taken to help get there, the effects you speak of are minimal and not to be worried about especially how I dose it.
lol - I bet you are 18-23 years old or so. I got news for you, stims are not going to get you there. You are just trying to justify your addiction.
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I honestly just started using them but they do help speed up my metabolism that is what I like about them. They are def not Placebo! fuck man crazy had potent amphetamines in them how is taking a amphetamine placebo? people failed the wada test because of craze. That was good stuff same with jack3D,I have always liked VPX Redline, I wish Blackstone had some of the original angel dust but I will try the new blend of it. I'll still use a ECA stack and I buy real ephdra from overseas so no placebo there. Plus I don;t like drinking s shitload of pre-work-out some nights maybe half a regular dose.
I think they have a place. They have helped speed up my metabolism and I can get through a work-out quicker. Trust me I know what is a placebo and what isn't when you start sweating more and are more friendly for some reason that's because of the pre-workout not because your just in a good mood for some reason.
The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat. You are simply chasing a high. You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance. Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems. A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's. It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects. That is when it does the most damage.
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Levrone M3
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The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat. You are simply chasing a high. You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance. Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems. A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's. It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects. That is when it does the most damage.
bro you use them 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.Or every other day. I don;t use ephedrine or a ECA stack all year just for a month or two months then take a break. Honestly I like prw-workouts just on hard training days. I'm also on gear so I'm not too worried about my health as you can see. Alot of it is hype if you know how to use correctly. I could never see myself getting addicted to daily pre-workout use. If I used pre-workouts all the time I obviously wouldn;t of started this thread because I would know what was the best out there
I used craze till they pulled it and then took a break. I used to use VPX redline and I still do off and on. I want to try angel dust by Blackstone labs.
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nothing will ever compare to Duchaines Ultimate Orange. I always wondered what was actually in there
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The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat. You are simply chasing a high. You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance. Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems. A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's. It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects. That is when it does the most damage.
Been using ephedrine for what? 20 years now, never go over 16m, even 12 is my dose. So just because your buddies messed themselves up, does not mean others can't make INTELLINGENT use of it and reap the benefits.
All the effects you speak of will NEVER happen to anyone who uses it pre workout so stop flooding the board here with bad info.
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The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat. You are simply chasing a high. You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance. Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems. A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's. It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects. That is when it does the most damage.
I normally like your posts but you are uneducated, ignorant, and full of shit here. Scroll through pubmed sometime and pull up any of the dozens of studies on how caffeine mobilizes fatty acids to be burned or how it improves athletic performance, focus, etc....
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I normally like your posts but you are uneducated, ignorant, and full of shit here. Scroll through pubmed sometime and pull up any of the dozens of studies on how caffeine mobilizes fatty acids to be burned or how it improves athletic performance, focus, etc....
Good post!