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Title: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: O.Z. on December 04, 2014, 07:47:48 PM
China is officially No 1 with economy worth $17,6 trillion, while US economy is worth $17,4 trillion.
Only 15 years ago US economy was almost 3 times bigger than Chinese.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 04, 2014, 07:59:07 PM
China is officially No 1 with economy worth $17,6 trillion, while US economy is worth $17,4 trillion.
Only 15 years ago US economy was almost 3 times bigger than Chinese.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html

Time for mega WW3  ;)
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: O.Z. on December 04, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
Time for mega WW3  ;)

as long as it is not affecting the Sunshine State I do not care :D
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: tommywishbone on December 04, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
City Wok.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Man of Steel on December 04, 2014, 08:13:26 PM
I'm pooping right now.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
.....over $18trillion in debt. Let's see. If I spend more than I take in that would make me....one broke ass mother F#%ker.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 04, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
as long as it is not affecting the Sunshine State I do not care :D

watch out 4 Vince ..........

 :D
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: FermiDirac on December 04, 2014, 10:56:18 PM
The chinamen really got the Americanos by their balls. They still have a very large amount of American bonds in their portfolio if I'm not mistaken (hence why they get so mad when US and A try to dilute the dollar value).

Chinamen also have, in absolute value, the largest amount of foreign currency kept in their reserve ($3 trillion a few years back).
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 04, 2014, 11:06:53 PM
The chinamen really got the Americanos by their balls. They still have a very large amount of American bonds in their portfolio if I'm not mistaken (hence why they get so mad when US and A try to dilute the dollar value).

Chinamen also have, in absolute value, the largest amount of foreign currency kept in their reserve ($3 trillion a few years back).

Jews were mega wealthy in Europe 1930's  &  rest is very well documented ............... ;)
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: calfzilla on December 04, 2014, 11:11:17 PM
Yeah but they're Chinese and look alike and have small cocks. No good bodybuilds either.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 04, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
Yeah but they're Chinese and look alike and have small cocks. No good bodybuilds either.

Screw this planet if ping pong overtakes BB  >:(
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: FermiDirac on December 04, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
Jews were mega wealthy in Europe 1930's  &  rest is very well documented ............... ;)

Yes, and who financed that very war? The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans and Goldmans.

Although that was a very different time. US and A can't do squat today, even if they tried to roughen up China, the Chinamen would just vomit forth their entire American bond hold and dollar currency locked in portfolios on the market, basically crashing the entire US economy (and probably the world as a consequence).
Also, with great leader Putin on their side, China wouldn't easily be bullied into submission through threats of physical violence either.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: FermiDirac on December 04, 2014, 11:17:39 PM
Yeah but they're Chinese and look alike and have small cocks. No good bodybuilds either.

I'd at least happily replace McDee in every corner for a "Mr Changs wok/steak house". :D
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 04, 2014, 11:32:48 PM
Ching Chang Chong.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Ron Harrigan on December 05, 2014, 12:30:26 AM
Yeah but they're Chinese and look alike and have small cocks. No good bodybuilds either.

Careful now.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 05, 2014, 12:39:14 AM
China is officially No 1 with economy worth $17,6 trillion, while US economy is worth $17,4 trillion.
Only 15 years ago US economy was almost 3 times bigger than Chinese.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html

Enjoy it while it lasts, 'cos it will get way worse.  America is screwed.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: pellius on December 05, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
We support 300 million Americanos. Chinese have to support 2 billion Chinks.

My father made an above average income but foolishly had seven kids.

There was never any food in the house. Without school lunches summer time was famine time at the Pellius household.

The average Chinese lifestyle still consists of rice and Ramen noodles. We eat meat in America. And lots of it.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 05, 2014, 12:40:49 AM


The average Chinese lifestyle still consists of rice and Ramen noodles. We eat meat in America. And lots of it.

Yes we know...

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Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Griffith on December 05, 2014, 12:52:51 AM
We support 300 million Americanos. Chinese have to support 2 billion Chinks.

My father made an above average income but foolishly had seven kids.

There was never any food in the house. Without school lunches summer time was famine time at the Pellius household.

The average Chinese lifestyle still consists of rice and Ramen noodles. We eat meat in America. And lots of it.

Yes, but their middle class is probably same amount as the total American population and will continue to grow.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Lord Chronos on December 05, 2014, 01:01:13 AM


The US days are numbered unfortunately, no empire stays on top forever and effectively the US is/was an empire and its coming to an end.

The US simply cannot compete as its intellectual stock and quality of workforce declines.

China has not only a vast workforce it can call upon, it also has the advantage of having a highly efficient people who's inherent culture is to work and make money whether that be a peasant in the fields or within a corporate environment.

China does not have millions of bums and layabouts who dont want to work, everybody has to contribute.  They also have a large intellectual stock that is educated worldwide, as well as aggressive corporate espionage schemes that keep them at the forefront of technological developments.

China will have their time and then one day they will be overtaken by somebody else......
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: The Grim Lifter on December 05, 2014, 03:30:11 AM

The US days are numbered unfortunately, no empire stays on top forever and effectively the US is/was an empire and its coming to an end.

The US simply cannot compete as its intellectual stock and quality of workforce declines.

China has not only a vast workforce it can call upon, it also has the advantage of having a highly efficient people who's inherent culture is to work and make money whether that be a peasant in the fields or within a corporate environment.

China does not have millions of bums and layabouts who dont want to work, everybody has to contribute.  They also have a large intellectual stock that is educated worldwide, as well as aggressive corporate espionage schemes that keep them at the forefront of technological developments.

China will have their time and then one day they will be overtaken by somebody else......

Generally true but China also has a lot of fuck ups. A lot of people don't like doing business there due to the language problems and the Chinese fuck up problem.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Parker on December 05, 2014, 04:04:10 AM
Generally true but China also has a lot of fuck ups. A lot of people don't like doing business there due to the language problems and the Chinese thievery and fuck up problem.
fixed
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 05, 2014, 06:29:06 AM
So don't buy plastic crap.  Not because you're a patriot.  Just because it's plastic crap. 

90% of the Chinese economy has been plastic crap based for a long time now and they still can't make a Tab A that doesn't snap off when inserted into Slot B.  It's a plastic crap empire.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Marty Champions on December 05, 2014, 06:36:36 AM
China could be all metal but w rathr screw us
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 05, 2014, 06:50:52 AM
Top quarity best price you by now Ali Baba special. 


I think not. 


This reputation will haunt them forever.  Even a superior product will be regarded with suspicion if made in China.  India, take a lesson.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Nails on December 05, 2014, 07:02:18 AM
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Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 05, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
The chinamen really got the Americanos by their balls. They still have a very large amount of American bonds in their portfolio if I'm not mistaken (hence why they get so mad when US and A try to dilute the dollar value).

Chinamen also have, in absolute value, the largest amount of foreign currency kept in their reserve ($3 trillion a few years back).

The US economy is based on selling cheap chinese products for profit, the china economy is based on making those cheap products.  They are in bed together.  Without the other they both would have economies that just collapse.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: dr.chimps on December 05, 2014, 08:01:48 AM
If you believe the 'official' economic numbers coming from China I've got a bridge to sell you.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: O.Z. on December 05, 2014, 08:08:34 AM
Fellas did you know that Chinese buyers spent $ 11 billion last year  alone on US real estate?
Did you know that new visa rule for chinese students and tourists will make it much easier for them to buy residential and commercial real estate in US?
Same here in Australia, they spent around $6 billion buying everything and anything, from large residential developments, factories, farms...
Similar in Europe. All together they spent $50 billion on real estate throughout the world last year.
That speaks volumes.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 05, 2014, 08:18:48 AM
Fellas did you know that Chinese buyers spent $ 11 billion last year  alone on US real estate?
Did you know that new visa rule for chinese students and tourists will make it much easier for them to buy residential and commercial real estate in US?
Same here in Australia, they spent around $6 billion buying everything and anything, from large residential developments, factories, farms...
Similar in Europe. All together they spent $50 billion on real estate throughout the world last year.
That speaks volumes.

UCLA is close to 50% asian poputlation now and not american-asian but overseas asians.  They pay full tuition so its more profitable for the colleges to cater to them.  Some premier schools put caps on asians because the white Alum felt threatened.  When the real estate market crashed cities like NYC, San Diego, San Francisco actually went up because of the heavy influx of asians coming in and buying homes ALL CASH and not caring about the price.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: MikMaq on December 05, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
There is economy will start to stall in 10-15 years, so I wouldn't get overly wound up.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 05, 2014, 11:49:36 AM
100 mil ping-pongers will never see or taste pussy, huge shortage of females in china
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 05, 2014, 11:53:26 AM
Fellas did you know that Chinese buyers spent $ 11 billion last year  alone on US real estate?
Did you know that new visa rule for chinese students and tourists will make it much easier for them to buy residential and commercial real estate in US?
Same here in Australia, they spent around $6 billion buying everything and anything, from large residential developments, factories, farms...
Similar in Europe. All together they spent $50 billion on real estate throughout the world last year.
That speaks volumes.

Yes, but that is escape plan for rich Chings, country could go very easily ...........
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: loco on December 05, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
1.  China cooks the books
2.  We all heard this same stuff about Japan in the 80s.  Look at Japan now.
3.  All the newly wealthy Chinese are moving to USA and Canada because they can't trust China.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
If you believe the 'official' economic numbers coming from China I've got a bridge to sell you.

You mean we're further down?
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: che on December 05, 2014, 08:07:05 PM
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Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
China is officially No 1 with economy worth $17,6 trillion, while US economy is worth $17,4 trillion.
Only 15 years ago US economy was almost 3 times bigger than Chinese.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html
Thanks Obama!
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: hardgainerj on December 05, 2014, 09:35:21 PM
If you believe the 'official' economic numbers coming from China I've got a bridge to sell you.
exactly this is PPP
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2014, 10:36:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs2rEdiIIAAgQnG.png:large)

Nice economic cycle. Obama slowed that by having the longest economic recovery in US history. He's useless and a punk.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2014, 10:41:53 PM
http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/labor-force-participation-remains-36-year-low-0
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: che on December 05, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
The jobless rate is steady at 5.8 percent, the stock market's roaring, the housing market is stirring and the rescued auto industry is motoring.

Gas is down to $2.71 a gallon, according to an American Automobile Association average, leaving a little extra cash for families this Christmas.

So far this year, over the first 11 months of 2014, our economy has created 2.65 million jobs
That's more than in any entire year since the 1990s. Our businesses have now created 10.9 million jobs over the past 57 months in a row. And that's the longest streak of private sector job growth on record


THANK YOU , MR, PRESIDENT
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2014, 10:59:04 PM
The jobless rate is steady at 5.8 percent, the stock market's roaring, the housing market is stirring and the rescued auto industry is motoring.

Gas is down to $2.71 a gallon, according to an American Automobile Association average, leaving a little extra cash for families this Christmas.

So far this year, over the first 11 months of 2014, our economy has created 2.65 million jobs
That's more than in any entire year since the 1990s. Our businesses have now created 10.9 million jobs over the past 57 months in a row. And that's the longest streak of private sector job growth on record


THANK YOU , MR, PRESIDENT

You have 93mil not looking for jobs. Fries anyone? Lol

Another delusional liberal. Haha. Obama is a complete waste of space. Lol
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: che on December 05, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
Minnesota has one of the fastest-growing state economies in the nation, according to a federal study released Monday by state officials
Minnesota’s unemployment rate dropped to a seasonally adjusted 3.9 percent,
Minnesota state forecasters predicted a $1 billion surplus heading into next month’s legislative session.

THANK YOU FOR THE NEW STADIUM  MR.PRESIDENT


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Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 05, 2014, 11:31:11 PM
Minnesota has one of the fastest-growing state economies in the nation, according to a federal study released Monday by state officials
Minnesota’s unemployment rate dropped to a seasonally adjusted 3.9 percent,
Minnesota state forecasters predicted a $1 billion surplus heading into next month’s legislative session.

THANK YOU FOR THE NEW STADIUM  MR.PRESIDENT


(http://bringmethenews.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/stadium-construction.jpg?w=458)



Minnesota? You realize there are 49 more states? You're Union, you have no sense of reality. lol
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Lord Chronos on December 06, 2014, 01:41:22 AM
So don't buy plastic crap.  Not because you're a patriot.  Just because it's plastic crap. 

90% of the Chinese economy has been plastic crap based for a long time now and they still can't make a Tab A that doesn't snap off when inserted into Slot B.  It's a plastic crap empire.

I would say your statement is not quite accurate, yet they produce vast amounts of plastic crap that is low quality, but much of the high quality products are being produced there.

Chinese can make quality products, there are many factories with the skill and the ability, but they charge for it. You get what you pay for.

For example all Japanese brand TV's are produced in China, Sony and many other premium brands included. The only japanese company that still makes its own screens is Pioneer.

Apple products are made in China, they are a premium product (even if I don't like them)

Mercedes, BMW and Volkswagen all now have manufacturing plants in China, these are premium products. (even though I hate the new generation of shitty Americanized plasticky Mercs...thanks Chrysler)

Every level of quality is produced in China.




Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Griffith on December 06, 2014, 03:36:34 AM
The question is: what is the US doing to reverse this?
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 06, 2014, 04:40:23 AM
I would say your statement is not quite accurate, yet they produce vast amounts of plastic crap that is low quality, but much of the high quality products are being produced there.

Chinese can make quality products, there are many factories with the skill and the ability, but they charge for it. You get what you pay for.

For example all Japanese brand TV's are produced in China, Sony and many other premium brands included. The only japanese company that still makes its own screens is Pioneer.

Apple products are made in China, they are a premium product (even if I don't like them)

Mercedes, BMW and Volkswagen all now have manufacturing plants in China, these are premium products. (even though I hate the new generation of shitty Americanized plasticky Mercs...thanks Chrysler)

Every level of quality is produced in China.






Their reputation for corner cutting so precedes them that western companies make a point of reassuring buyers with labels like "Made in China to our exacting standards."  No one says "Made in Germany but we kept a close eye on those shifty krauts so it's ok, we promise."

Their economy is a runaway train.  They have to cut corners (usually materials quality since it's hard to spot).  If they don't there are a million other squinty little bastards lined up who will and the quality producer who used the more expensive means to make something good is out of business.  Sure, there's no such thing as perfection.  West or East, a maker is going to balance product quality against cost.  Same as anywhere, except today's China is the pressure cooker version.  

To say they make cheap & nasty at the bottom end and excellent quality at the top end is simplistic.  What they do is make stuff that's barely, barely good enough (but not quite) for the level of quality stipulated.  Barely/almost good enough for cheap & nasty and barely/almost good enough for higher standards.  Again, if you don't then the next guy will.  That's not the same as balancing cost and quality.  It's a lowest common denominator level of workmanship.  That is why you get the lowest possible quality for your price range from Chinese products.  Add the smiling western salesman's markup and you are absolutely not getting what you're paying for from China.

Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 06, 2014, 05:00:40 AM
China's economy would crash if we stopped buying their crap and started making stuff again in the US. First step would be a heavy tariff on all goods coming from there. It won't happen because of the loans we have from China might be called. Right now China forgives payments as long as we keep buying their junk. We need a President that will stand up to China and say to them they have an unfair trade advantage because of their slave wages factories. Fuck you we will pay your loans when we get to it.

We can't even make a can opener anymore in the US. We use to have factories everywhere when I was a kid. When I was a kid the overwhelming majority of clothes we wore were made in America. Now I own no clothes that are made here. I hear young people say who wants to work in a factory? I want a corner office that comes with a secretary as my job. Then they end up working a cash register after college because the economy stinks. One factory employs truck drivers, security guards, janitors, workers, accountants, secretaries, white collar guys, clerks and pays taxes.  The economy grows and thrust other jobs in the economy open up.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2014, 06:51:37 AM
http://nypost.com/2014/12/05/even-the-labor-department-cant-explain-the-latest-job-report/

Thanks Obama!
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on December 06, 2014, 09:21:15 AM
Generally true but China also has a lot of fuck ups. A lot of people don't like doing business there due to the language problems and the Chinese fuck up problem.

 


 Learn the language, or stay out of the game.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Lord Chronos on December 06, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
Their reputation for corner cutting so precedes them that western companies make a point of reassuring buyers with labels like "Made in China to our exacting standards."  No one says "Made in Germany but we kept a close eye on those shifty krauts so it's ok, we promise."

Their economy is a runaway train.  They have to cut corners (usually materials quality since it's hard to spot).  If they don't there are a million other squinty little bastards lined up who will and the quality producer who used the more expensive means to make something good is out of business.  Sure, there's no such thing as perfection.  West or East, a maker is going to balance product quality against cost.  Same as anywhere, except today's China is the pressure cooker version.  

To say they make cheap & nasty at the bottom end and excellent quality at the top end is simplistic.  What they do is make stuff that's barely, barely good enough (but not quite) for the level of quality stipulated.  Barely/almost good enough for cheap & nasty and barely/almost good enough for higher standards.  Again, if you don't then the next guy will.  That's not the same as balancing cost and quality.  It's a lowest common denominator level of workmanship.  That is why you get the lowest possible quality for your price range from Chinese products.  Add the smiling western salesman's markup and you are absolutely not getting what you're paying for from China.


I would absolutely agree with your point about cutting corners, I would also never compare the workmanship of the Germans against the Chinese. For the chinese to produce the same would require, as you say, somebody to stand over them to ensure that corners are not cut.As we have seen from the countless counterfeits and contamination in every time of product from food to children toys, there are plenty of people who are happy to cut corners even in the most riskiest areas.

Whilst I would agree the Germans have pride in their manufacturing, there are perfect examples where they have sold out and "with someone standing over them" opted not to produce quality. The Daimler-Chrysler partnership is the perfect example, when Chrysler got involved, the CEO from Chrysler at the time said that Mercedes was over-engineering their cars. Said it was unnecessary and eating into profit (despite the fact Mercedes was still profitable) by removing this so-called over engineering we can make more money. This American had no appreciated for what is one of the main reasons why people and especially Germans buy Mercs, they buy it for the "over-engineering". Still Mercedes choose to follow his advice and build quality nose-dived. Sales were affected as they lowered the quality, but in the following years they did just enough to address this, and we have what we have today, a company producing cars that are a tinny, plastic shadow of what they used to be. The B and M class made in Mexico with a poor reliability rating. Manufacturing facilities opening in China

However the point I am trying to make is that they are both capable of producing all levels of quality depending on what "orders" come down from above.  They have both the technical capacity and the intellectual stock to do this....if they want. These "squinty little bastards" as you call them can choose to produce quality if they want. Just like us "White faced barbarians" can choose not to sell our soul for profit every time, and go for the cheapest option.

Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 07, 2014, 01:08:20 AM
They probably think it's hilarious that we look perpetually startled.

"Imagine how wide their eyes will get when the engine falls out of the tractor!  Bahaha!!"  ;D
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: The Grim Lifter on December 07, 2014, 02:24:48 AM


 Learn the language, or stay out of the game.

So what? Have you been to China? Just because you can speak Chinese doesn't mean they will fuck you around to save money or make more money anyway they can in many cases.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: MikMaq on December 07, 2014, 04:29:12 AM
I would absolutely agree with your point about cutting corners, I would also never compare the workmanship of the Germans against the Chinese. For the chinese to produce the same would require, as you say, somebody to stand over them to ensure that corners are not cut.As we have seen from the countless counterfeits and contamination in every time of product from food to children toys, there are plenty of people who are happy to cut corners even in the most riskiest areas.

Whilst I would agree the Germans have pride in their manufacturing, there are perfect examples where they have sold out and "with someone standing over them" opted not to produce quality. The Daimler-Chrysler partnership is the perfect example, when Chrysler got involved, the CEO from Chrysler at the time said that Mercedes was over-engineering their cars. Said it was unnecessary and eating into profit (despite the fact Mercedes was still profitable) by removing this so-called over engineering we can make more money. This American had no appreciated for what is one of the main reasons why people and especially Germans buy Mercs, they buy it for the "over-engineering". Still Mercedes choose to follow his advice and build quality nose-dived. Sales were affected as they lowered the quality, but in the following years they did just enough to address this, and we have what we have today, a company producing cars that are a tinny, plastic shadow of what they used to be. The B and M class made in Mexico with a poor reliability rating. Manufacturing facilities opening in China

However the point I am trying to make is that they are both capable of producing all levels of quality depending on what "orders" come down from above.  They have both the technical capacity and the intellectual stock to do this....if they want. These "squinty little bastards" as you call them can choose to produce quality if they want. Just like us "White faced barbarians" can choose not to sell our soul for profit every time, and go for the cheapest option.


Auto makers are always going up and down with their quality.

It's a generational cycle, where a brand gets such a good reputation for quality there is no actual need to produce at that benchmark. Than a generation later they fall back in the pack, again going on a major rebranding phase.

IF you look at the stats for the big 3 you'll see this as a continual pattern.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: scabbard on December 09, 2014, 02:55:12 AM
     Time magazine mentioned China's ascendancy and said that when we speak of China, we will be talking in superlatives.  That is, we will be using words like fastest, tallest, biggest, farthest, heaviest, lightest, etc. when we refer to China.  Truly the twentieth century was the American century with our country making the biggest impact on the world.  The twenty-first century may be the Century of China.  
     China produces far more engineers, scientists and medical personnel than we do--or at least the potential for more--and they are the third country in the world to send people into space.  If they continue to progress as they are doing, they might reach the planet Mars before we do.  Chinese are known for their abilities in science, engineering, and medicine to say nothing of their talents in art, music, and athletics.  And don't forget their business acumen.  They have a number of billionaires already, and with their  risk-taking they might shake up the world as they influence countries' economies and financial markets.
      China was once a sad country bullied by Western powers and Japan and taken advantage of and carved up to suit others' needs.  No longer.  Mao's ragtag army drove out the Nationalists from China; and in the Korean war, while North Koreans were retreating,  China entered the war and held the United Nations' forces to a stalemate.  That's how strong China has become.  Time magazine mentioned that China is building a missile that can be fired from China and reach as far as Hawaii.  If they build one that can go as far as our West Coast cities, we would be vulnerable.
     If China remains a peaceful, non-aggressive, cooperative country, it can do wonders for the world.  But if not, China could become a worrisome country.
     By the way, the rules of this forum are that no racist language be used.  Therefore, do not use the words "Chinaman" and "Chink" when referring to Chinese.  The dictionaries refer to those words as derogatory and offensive.
      
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: devilsmile on December 09, 2014, 03:57:40 AM


 Learn the language, or stay out of the game.

lol at filling the gaps in sentence with 'uhm' even when you speak chinese, not impressed
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Europe on December 09, 2014, 05:17:14 AM
    Time magazine mentioned China's ascendancy and said that when we speak of China, we will be talking in superlatives.  That is, we will be using words like fastest, tallest, biggest, farthest, heaviest, lightest, etc. when we refer to China.  Truly the twentieth century was the American century with our country making the biggest impact on the world.  The twenty-first century may be the Century of China.  
     China produces far more engineers, scientists and medical personnel than we do--or at least the potential for more--and they are the third country in the world to send people into space.  If they continue to progress as they are doing, they might reach the planet Mars before we do.  Chinese are known for their abilities in science, engineering, and medicine to say nothing of their talents in art, music, and athletics.  And don't forget their business acumen.  They have a number of billionaires already, and with their  risk-taking they might shake up the world as they influence countries' economies and financial markets.
      China was once a sad country bullied by Western powers and Japan and taken advantage of and carved up to suit others' needs.  No longer.  Mao's ragtag army drove out the Nationalists from China; and in the Korean war, while North Koreans were retreating,  China entered the war and held the United Nations' forces to a stalemate.  That's how strong China has become.  Time magazine mentioned that China is building a missile that can be fired from China and reach as far as Hawaii.  If they build one that can go as far as our West Coast cities, we would be vulnerable.
     If China remains a peaceful, non-aggressive, cooperative country, it can do wonders for the world.  But if not, China could become a worrisome country.
     By the way, the rules of this forum are that no racist language be used.  Therefore, do not use the words "Chinaman" and "Chink" when referring to Chinese.  The dictionaries refer to those words as derogatory and offensive.
      

Good post..
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 09, 2014, 08:02:57 AM
By the way, the rules of this forum are that no racist language be used.  Therefore, do not use the words "Chinaman" and "Chink" when referring to Chinese.  The dictionaries refer to those words as derogatory and offensive.
      

Oriental identified.

What do you call a guy from England?  An Englishman.

Don't lose face by asking everyone to kow-tow.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Parker on December 09, 2014, 08:26:53 AM
    Time magazine mentioned China's ascendancy and said that when we speak of China, we will be talking in superlatives.  That is, we will be using words like fastest, tallest, biggest, farthest, heaviest, lightest, etc. when we refer to China.  Truly the twentieth century was the American century with our country making the biggest impact on the world.  The twenty-first century may be the Century of China.  
     China produces far more engineers, scientists and medical personnel than we do--or at least the potential for more--and they are the third country in the world to send people into space.  If they continue to progress as they are doing, they might reach the planet Mars before we do.  Chinese are known for their abilities in science, engineering, and medicine to say nothing of their talents in art, music, and athletics.  And don't forget their business acumen.  They have a number of billionaires already, and with their  risk-taking they might shake up the world as they influence countries' economies and financial markets.
      China was once a sad country bullied by Western powers and Japan and taken advantage of and carved up to suit others' needs.  No longer.  Mao's ragtag army drove out the Nationalists from China; and in the Korean war, while North Koreans were retreating,  China entered the war and held the United Nations' forces to a stalemate.  That's how strong China has become.  Time magazine mentioned that China is building a missile that can be fired from China and reach as far as Hawaii.  If they build one that can go as far as our West Coast cities, we would be vulnerable.
     If China remains a peaceful, non-aggressive, cooperative country, it can do wonders for the world.  But if not, China could become a worrisome country.
     By the way, the rules of this forum are that no racist language be used.  Therefore, do not use the words "Chinaman" and "Chink" when referring to Chinese.  The dictionaries refer to those words as derogatory and offensive.
      
There are so many holes in this post, it looks like Swiss Cheese. And cheese is not good for a dieting bodybuilder.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2014, 08:42:48 AM

Oriental identified.

What do you call a guy from England?  An Englishman.

Don't lose face by asking everyone to kow-tow.

 :)
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 09, 2014, 08:43:11 AM
my grandfather user to say that the yellow skin people will rule one day, be careful of them, they're sneaky and will assimilate to then just take over.  Seems to be just right.  America is so blinded by the money the asians are spending they can't see what's truly happening.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: _bruce_ on December 09, 2014, 09:03:32 AM
scabbard is there a chink in your armor of butthurt?
Time magazine said.... bla, bla, bla - you fucking homo must be 14 year old.
India is producing a large quantity of highly educated people and China most likely takes the big manufacturing plant role.
But like Mr. Wang used to say... "Size isn't everything"

Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 09, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
scabbard is there a chink in your armor of butthurt?
Time magazine said.... bla, bla, bla - you fucking homo must be 14 year old.
India is producing a large quantity of educated people and China most likely takes the big manufacturing plant role.
But like Mr. Wang used to say... "Size isn't everything"



fixed, don't beleive the bullshit, they aren't as highly educated as you think.  Most are sending their kids here to be truly Highly educated.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 09, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
fixed, don't beleive the bullshit, they aren't as highly educated as you think.  Most are sending their kids here to be truly Highly educated.

Lol.  Joke on them!
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: disco_stu on December 09, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
You have 93mil not looking for jobs. Fries anyone? Lol

Another delusional liberal. Haha. Obama is a complete waste of space. Lol

please send him here.

we'll have the waste of space.

seriously you dont know how good you got it. from afar, obama has royally kicked the butt of the past presidents.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: _bruce_ on December 09, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
fixed, don't beleive the bullshit, they aren't as highly educated as you think.  Most are sending their kids here to be truly Highly educated.

They have a good deal of IT people - and I do not mean Ramsi, a bicycle and a headset for the MS Office hotline.
More like software developers and engineers... they're a lot of folks and even of only a handful are good relative to their populace size... that's a big handful.

Maybe things never change and the breakthrough stuff will always be western made - like the Pentium who has roots at Intel/Israel... imagine being an arab with a pentium based PC surfing porn...

brutal haram inside.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 09, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Indians and Asians aren't any smarter than the average white person.  The difference is when Timmy comes home from school, he'll spend 2 hours on XBOX, 1 hour on facebook, 20 minutes on homework and 1 hour furiously masturbating.  When Chang or Ranjeev come home, they study for one hour, then study some more, eat for 3 minutes, study some more, spend 20 seconds masturbating and studying some more.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: scabbard on December 17, 2014, 01:35:58 AM

Oriental identified.

What do you call a guy from England?  An Englishman.

Don't lose face by asking everyone to kow-tow.

Then you should call a man from China a Chineseman.  Notice the difference?  In the case of an Englishman, Frenchman, Irishman, etc., you're using an adjective (English, French, Irish) and noun together; in the case of "Chinaman," you're using a noun (the country China, not the adjective Chinese) and a noun.

But more importantly one should know the origin of Chinaman, and it's not a pretty picture.  When they came to the West, they were belittled and bullied and called Chinamen as a sign of disrespect; such terms as "Ching Chong Chinaman" and "Chinaman's chance" were bandied about to sow the seeds of hatred toward Chinese.

Marvin Belli, a noted tort lawyer in San Francisco, once said,  "Some of my best friends are Chinamen."  To which a young Chinese American lawyer replied,  "Then you must not have Chinese friends.  A friend of Chinese would never use the contemptuous, insulting and disparaging word Chinamen."
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: scabbard on December 17, 2014, 02:01:58 AM
Indians and Asians aren't any smarter than the average white person.  The difference is when Timmy comes home from school, he'll spend 2 hours on XBOX, 1 hour on facebook, 20 minutes on homework and 1 hour furiously masturbating.  When Chang or Ranjeev come home, they study for one hour, then study some more, eat for 3 minutes, study some more, spend 20 seconds masturbating and studying some more.

I don't know; it could be innate.  Chinese produce a lot of child prodigies, as do Jews and Indians.  I'm not very good at math, and once I spent almost half an hour trying to figure out one math problem in high school.  I just couldn't figure it out; I just gave up.  In the class this Chinese student got the answer right, and he was the only one to do so.  The teacher asked him to explain how he got the answer, and he just ran through it as if it were easy as pie.  While the rest of us looked envious and askance, we realized that we couldn't compete with him; he was a math genius.

Also in high school, I took an art class, and the teacher once told the class "Chinese make good artists."  I recall that there were some white students who were good artists, but I think the teacher discovered a preponderance of Chinese students that were really good, so she made that statement based on her experience.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: Tapeworm on December 17, 2014, 02:02:30 AM
Settle down, Grasshopper.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: dr.chimps on December 17, 2014, 03:14:07 AM
Then you should call a man from China a Chineseman.  Notice the difference?  In the case of an Englishman, Frenchman, Irishman, etc., you're using an adjective (English, French, Irish) and noun together; in the case of "Chinaman," you're using a noun (the country China, not the adjective Chinese) and a noun.

But more importantly one should know the origin of Chinaman, and it's not a pretty picture.  When they came to the West, they were belittled and bullied and called Chinamen as a sign of disrespect; such terms as "Ching Chong Chinaman" and "Chinaman's chance" were bandied about to sow the seeds of hatred toward Chinese.

Marvin Belli, a noted tort lawyer in San Francisco, once said,  "Some of my best friends are Chinamen."  To which a young Chinese American lawyer replied,  "Then you must not have Chinese friends.  A friend of Chinese would never use the contemptuous, insulting and disparaging word Chinamen."
Back to work, Coolie. The railroad ain't gonna build itself, ya know.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: basil on December 17, 2014, 08:43:02 AM
China is officially No 1 with economy worth $17,6 trillion, while US economy is worth $17,4 trillion.
Only 15 years ago US economy was almost 3 times bigger than Chinese.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html

Was a good run.  They'll never recover.
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: 2Thick on December 17, 2014, 02:06:28 PM
The US economy is based on selling cheap chinese products for profit, the china economy is based on making those cheap products.  They are in bed together.  Without the other they both would have economies that just collapse.

Agreed.


If you believe the 'official' economic numbers coming from China I've got a bridge to sell you.

Agreed.


1.  China cooks the books
2.  We all heard this same stuff about Japan in the 80s.  Look at Japan now.
3.  All the newly wealthy Chinese are moving to USA and Canada because they can't trust China.

Agreed. They actually need us more than we need them.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs2rEdiIIAAgQnG.png:large)

Please explain what Obama has to do with the Dow and GDP growth?

We were in a recession when he was elected and took office - things always improve after a recession.

The Fed has been printing money and sitting on rates for 6 years since then, which is why the market is up past its pre-recession high of 7 years ago. Money is cheap, and retired people who previously invested trillions into bonds for income must now invest in dividend-paying stocks to get a decent return on their money to live on.

This admin has increased taxes and regs to nightmarish levels - the post-recession recovery has been the slowest since WW2 because of that.

18 trillion in debt in a zero-interest rate environment. 50 million in poverty and 50 million now on food stamps - both have roughly doubled since he took office.

New taxes:
http://www.atr.org/full-list-ACA-tax-hikes-a6996 (http://www.atr.org/full-list-ACA-tax-hikes-a6996)




The jobless rate is steady at 5.8 percent, the stock market's roaring, the housing market is stirring and the rescued auto industry is motoring.

Gas is down to $2.71 a gallon, according to an American Automobile Association average, leaving a little extra cash for families this Christmas.

So far this year, over the first 11 months of 2014, our economy has created 2.65 million jobs
That's more than in any entire year since the 1990s. Our businesses have now created 10.9 million jobs over the past 57 months in a row. And that's the longest streak of private sector job growth on record


THANK YOU , MR, PRESIDENT

Now you're crediting him for the price of a barrel of oil? I can't believe how many people on this site are so clueless. This is why so few people are rich and people like Obama get elected twice right here.

You do know he wants to raise the gasoline tax, right?

Net jobs are down since he took office.


Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 17, 2014, 05:12:39 PM
Walk into Walmart and look how fat America's poor people are...It's basically impossible to starve in America unless you can't walk or are a tiny child with a crackhead parent...
Title: Re: After some 150 years US is officially No2 economy in the world
Post by: That_Dude on December 17, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
Careful now.

Does anyone else look at this pic and see a Chinese Vince G?

On a note related to the thread a bit more it is not necessarily a matter of us vs them, there is an underlying globalist agenda at work.