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Title: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 08, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Got into a pretty heated augment with a die hard pitbull owner, I said there naturly aggressive as they where breed to attack the faces and necks of bears and bulls.

She stated that it's the owners that make them mean.

My response was that pitbulls are not the only dog with bad owners, if that was the case pitbulls wouldn't lead the fatally rate by 75%

She then said well it used by fighters that's why.

I said well why do you think there used for fighting? Is it because of there temperament? There is a reason why they are the number one fighting dog.

Yet she refused to even admit that yes they are more aggressive by nature
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Knooger on December 08, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
Pics of this whore? Also, pussy shots if you have them. Thanks!
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on December 08, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
It depends on how they are raised, but it's a breed almost exclusively owned by the lower class. In the end, they were bred for fighting, it's one of their breeds traits. Just like pugs are lovable and family friendly. Certain dogs were bred for certain purposes.

And of course, when they snap (not if), it will be way worse regardless of how well mannered they are otherwise. Denmark and some other countries made a solid decision by banning this breed along with other dangerous dog breeds.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SuperTed on December 08, 2014, 11:27:12 AM
This is going to end up a 20 page thread if E-Kul gets involved. :D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: visualizeperfection on December 08, 2014, 11:27:22 AM
Why did you let this vehement slut speak out of turn and/or have an opinion?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on December 08, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
Why did you let this vehement slut speak out of turn and/or have an opinion?

An even more pressing issue is; did he or did he not mount the wench?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on December 08, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
this is a touchy subject.  i have a lot of dog owner friends who would say you're an asshole.  luckily for you i'm not convinced.

seriously, i think it's a mix of both.  it really does depend on the individual dog for a variety of reasons.  one of the dangers of the breed is simply that a pissed off pit can a do a whole lot more damage than a pissed off yorkie.  it doesn't help when everyone who's ever worn a do-rag wants/owns a pit.

i personally don't trust them overall but i know pits that i trust as i would any other dog based on their individual traits.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on December 08, 2014, 11:52:14 AM
Hopefully you apply the same type of logical thinking towards humans. :D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: spiro on December 08, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
Been around pits my whole life and never seen one flip out and attack someone out of nowhere. Pit bulls are a very popular breed with all kinds of idiots including white trash ghetto trash idiots who just want them to be part of a "oppressed" groups lots of back yard breeding/inbreeding. If you do your homework and get one from a good breeder you shouldn't have an issue.

They were bread to be aggressive to other dogs and animals not human aggressive. Old time breeders didn't want a human aggressive dog. If you're breaking them up in the pit or training them human aggression is not an ideal characteristic. Personally I would be more worried about Rottweilers German Shepard and Dobermans they were bred to be aggressive to humans.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Nick Danger on December 08, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
They're more dangerous because they are a strong breed...they are no more likely to bite than any other breed.
It is said that Pitbulls are chosen for fighting because they are extremely loyal and only want to please their owners.
It's a shame that so many meat heads choose the breed to feed their egos.
Any powerful dog should have experienced owners...
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on December 08, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
They may initially might not have been aggressive. But if the humans provides a certain type of environment, is entirely plausible that pitbulls have developed a specific trait that is now being passed down to their offspring. I do not understand why pitbull owners get mad when people say this. Its basic common sense. Parents pass traits to their offspring. If pitbulls are being breeded for violence, then these traits may get passed down to their offspring more than, say, a yorkie. It doesn't mean its the pitbulls faults. It's entirely the humans fault. Hopefully you get enough kind owners to breed this trait out of them. On the other hand, a pitbull can have an aggressive trait, but if provided love from the right environment, that trait may never become manifested (similar in humans).
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on December 08, 2014, 12:17:13 PM
They may initially might not have been aggressive. But if the humans provides a certain type of environment, is entirely plausible that pitbulls have developed a specific trait that is now being passed down to their offspring. I do not understand why pitbull owners get mad when people say this. Its basic common sense. Parents pass traits to their offspring. If pitbulls are being breeded for violence, then these traits may get passed down to their offspring more than, say, a yorkie. It doesn't mean its the pitbulls faults. It's entirely the humans fault. Hopefully you get enough kind owners to breed this trait out of them. On the other hand, a pitbull can have an aggressive trait, but if provided love from the right environment, that trait may never become manifested (similar in humans).
You must really hate "urban youths". :(
PS: pitbulls were NEVER bred to be human aggressive.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on December 08, 2014, 12:28:53 PM
You must really hate "urban youths". :(
PS: pitbulls were NEVER bred to be human aggressive.

two references to kneegrows in a row.. someone a little sensitive?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on December 08, 2014, 12:29:59 PM
You must really hate "urban youths". :(
PS: pitbulls were NEVER bred to be human aggressive.

I don't understand what you mean.

They may never have been bred to be aggressive toward humans, but they still possess an overall aggressive trait (if passed down to their offspring). I don't think the aggressive trait would literally distinguish between humans and other animals.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: WannaBePro on December 08, 2014, 12:44:50 PM
Most dangerous breed would have to be those Russian bear-dogs, I don't remember the breed name. Those things are insane! I'll try and find a video of these things, they go batshit crazy as soon as they see someone walk by them.

Edit: I think they're called Caucasian ovcharka
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 08, 2014, 12:47:08 PM
I read a story of a guy breeding a Hyena with a pitbull.  That would be nuts.  The guy above. Are you talking about a Mastiff?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: flex933 on December 08, 2014, 12:49:07 PM
I thought akitas were also pretty aggressive dogs
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: funk51 on December 08, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: DanM on December 08, 2014, 12:51:38 PM
Trying to debate with a diehard pit bull enthusiast is like trying to talk to a brick wall are worse yet a scorned woman. They become instantly offended and take it as a personal attack and logic goes right out the window.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 08, 2014, 12:59:30 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/20/2353153700000578-2842348-Dog_scares_off_polar_bear-94_1416486182375.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/20/2353154100000578-2842348-The_dog_s_owner_claims_that_he_breeds_the_strongest_dogs_in_the_-93_1416486174672.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/20/2353136A00000578-2842348-Despite_their_differences_in_size_the_dog_continues_to_stand_its-96_1416486200274.jpg)

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Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: spiro on December 08, 2014, 01:01:23 PM
Trying to debate with a diehard pit bull enthusiast is like trying to talk to a brick wall are worse yet a scorned woman. They become instantly offended and take it as a personal attack and logic goes right out the window.

Had like 5-6 family dogs that were Pitts. They were the funniest most athletic kindest gentlest. They followed my mom around and looked out for her. Great with kids. The perfect dog. That's why owners get offended.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: doison on December 08, 2014, 01:01:43 PM
Grown men scared of a dog

Embarrassing
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 08, 2014, 01:01:49 PM
(http://s17.postimg.org/ptj4ivzv3/JI3_OWb_Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 08, 2014, 01:03:59 PM
I read a story of a guy breeding a Hyena with a pitbull.  That would be nuts.  The guy above. Are you talking about a Mastiff?
How did you read about that since its an impossibility due to the Hyena not even being in the same species at all.

You must have made it up.  :-\
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Rami on December 08, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
I like dogs that are not too big and run along stupidly like they have no clue about anything what so ever
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 08, 2014, 01:06:19 PM
I read a story of a guy breeding a Hyena with a pitbull.  That would be nuts.  The guy above. Are you talking about a Mastiff?
Hyenas are part of the feliformia, they are cats.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 08, 2014, 01:09:46 PM
Rogan talks about a Pit being attacked by a pack of Coyotes and the Pit killed like 9 Coyotes. That's fukcing badass...

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: MikMaq on December 08, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Most dangerous breed would have to be those Russian bear-dogs, I don't remember the breed name. Those things are insane! I'll try and find a video of these things, they go batshit crazy as soon as they see someone walk by them.

Edit: I think they're called Caucasian ovcharka

They look like their a breed similar to newfs me thinks they ain't too viscious.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on December 08, 2014, 01:21:40 PM
I don't understand what you mean.

They may never have been bred to be aggressive toward humans, but they still possess an overall aggressive trait (if passed down to their offspring). I don't think the aggressive trait would literally distinguish between humans and other animals.
you are wrong on that part. Its a big difference btw having a dogaggresive dog and a humanaggressive dog.

i have known lots of dogs that hated other dogs and was aggressive to them but not one of them would hurt a human (of the dogs i known)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on December 08, 2014, 01:26:20 PM
you are wrong on that part. Its a big difference btw having a dogaggresive dog and a humanaggressive dog.

i have known lots of dogs that hated other dogs and was aggressive to them but not one of them would hurt a human (of the dogs i known)

Well, I may be wrong. However, many of these dogs who are bred to be aggressive toward other dogs are probably treated like shit by their human owners. So, it would be no surprise if they were aggressive toward humans.

But I do not know the specific research about how a trait would manifest differently toward specific groups of species. I do not even know if there is research out there like that.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: MAXX on December 08, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
it's a breed bred to guard and fight. ofcourse you're right.

I had a gf with a rottweiler(white trash fuckhead) nice dog but yeah don't want to make it upset. Stole his toy for fun once.. shouldn't have. All I can say is I'm glad it didnt bite my face off.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on December 08, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
two references to kneegrows in a row.. someone a little sensitive?
I never mentioned hebrows ???
Assume much?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 08, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
What about  a Leonberger, those things are huge. Are they mean?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: sync pulse on December 08, 2014, 11:36:36 PM
Got into a pretty heated augment with a die hard pitbull owner, I said there naturly aggressive as they where breed to attack the faces and necks of bears and bulls. She stated that it's the owners that make them mean. My response was that pitbulls are not the only dog with bad owners, if that was the case pitbulls wouldn't lead the fatally rate by 75%
She then said well it used by fighters that's why. I said well why do you think there used for fighting? Is it because of there temperament? There is a reason why they are the number one fighting dog. Yet she refused to even admit that yes they are more aggressive by nature.

    The problem is that the margin of error with a Pitbull is so much smaller than with other breeds.  Pitbulls can injure someone so throughly in such a short period of time.  This is largely because of their truly phenomenal bite strength.  It has been cited that Chihuahuas are a more aggressive breed than Pitbulls.  This may be true, but a Chihuahua can't crush a windpipe in 10 seconds of anger.
 
Incidentally this can be true for people as well.  How many times have we heard of a weight trainer in a barroom, suddenly finding themselves looking down at the floor at someone they have just injured.  They are thinking, "How can this be? I just lightly brushed this insect away!"
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on December 08, 2014, 11:48:52 PM
Hyenas are part of the feliformia, they are cats.
i thought they are related to weasels
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on December 09, 2014, 12:09:55 AM
Something like 99% of all dogs have no real fight drive or nerve and will only bite you out of fear so I wouldn't worry about it too much

Pits are awesome , most of their owners are not
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: visualizeperfection on December 09, 2014, 12:58:37 AM
Pitbulls are the hebrews of the dog world.



"Oh its not all them", "how they were raised" "mine never did anything bad" etc etc...



Mongrels.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 09, 2014, 07:10:14 AM
It depends on how they are raised, sadly, most owners are douches, thugs and bodybuilders with shit for brains ....


In other words, Pitbulls can leave permanent damage on you EASILY and should be banned from this fucked up society .


WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2014, 07:14:45 AM
Woman Killed By Pit Bulls She
Raised From Puppies
By Ruth Rendon
c. 2002 Houston Chronicle
7-19-2

SPLENDORA -- A 52-year-old woman who raised pit bull terriers was killed after being mauled by four of them she had raised from puppies, the Harris County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Wednesday.
 
Bernard Lee Carter returned from work about 7 p.m. Tuesday to find the dogs standing over Dorothy Carter, his wife of six years. She was face down in an enclosed back porch, Splendora police Sgt. Mark Seals said.
 
ChronicleAn outside shot of the Carter's home in Splendora."There were a lot of bites all over her," Seals said of the bloody scene. "It's probably the worst I've seen."
 
Carter was pronounced dead at the scene by Cynthia McMillan, Montgomery County Precinct 4 justice of the peace.
 
A preliminary report late Wednesday from the Harris County Medical Examiner's office said Carter died of dog bites. Earlier,officials speculated she might have died as a result of a seizure before being attacked.
 
But Seals said the medical examiner's office reported no evidence that Carter had suffered a seizure before the attack.
 
As a result, Seals said he would ask McMillan for an order to destroy the dogs. McMillan had ordered the dogs impounded. She said a veterinarian had given them medication to empty their stomachs.
 
"It's so gross I can't tell you," McMillan said of the incident, which occurred at the Carter home on Shadow Briar Lane in theDeerbrook subdivision.
 
Carter was severely disfigured and had deep wounds to her arms and legs, Seals said.
 
Officers at the Montgomery County Animal Control, where the dogs are being kept, said the animals -- two of them males -- weighbetween 45 and 100 pounds.
 
Her husband said they range in age from 3 1/2 years to 9 months.
 
The youngest dog, Bud, was Dorothy Carter's lap dog, her husband said.
 
Carter, 50, a mechanic, said the dogs were his wife's protectors. When she recently suffered a seizure in bed, he said, the dogstried to get her up by pulling on her hair.
 
"They always protected her. They were probably trying to get her to get up," a teary-eyed Carter said while sitting in the livingroom of his home. "In my mind that's what happened."
 
He suspects his wife had a seizure in the morning and fell. She was still wearing her morning coat when he found her, he said.
 
Carter said when he left for work at 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, his wife was up. He said if she didn't take her medication early, she wouldtend to forget. Her seizures, he said, had become more severe recently, causing her to fall and hit her head several times.
 
Although pit bull terriers are perceived as vicious, Carter said his four dogs had never exhibited aggression towardhim or his wife.
 
"They've never bitten anybody. They've never harmed any other animal. I don't know what happened," he said. He described the pets asindoor dogs that were prone to sleeping on couches.
 
"They wouldn't hurt anybody," he said.
 
Police have no history of calls to the residence, located on about two acres on a dead-end street, related to animals, Seals said.The one time police went to the home was when Dorothy Carter thought someone was trying to break in, he said.
 
Carter said the dogs would bark if anyone walked onto their property, enclosed by a 400-foot chain-link fence. An electric fence ontop of that is designed to keep the dogs in and stray animals out, he said.
 
The dogs had not left the property in more than a year, except when the couple would take the oldest male, Jack, for a ride in thecar, he said.
 
Carter described Jack as "fat and always just laid around."
 
Carter said he and his wife had been raising pit bulls for about 3 1/2 years and would sell them.
 
"Nobody has ever had any problems with them," he said. "We've never had any problems with them."
 
Neighbor Christie Hantelman, who lives across the street, said the dogs were not aggressive. Nevertheless, she would not go to thehome because of the animals.
 
"I thought she had a seizure and had died from that. I was shocked the dogs had done that," she said.
 
Carter is contemplating how to pay for his wife's funeral expenses. His wife, he said, wanted to be cremated and her ashes spread ontheir property.
 
"I had so many plans for me and her," he said, including improvements to their home, which they had lived in six years. Their planswere sidetracked when she lost her job with an auto parts store. That meant not only the loss of income but also the loss of thecouple's medical insurance.
 
The couple met while Dorothy Carter was delivering parts to the auto mechanic shop where Bernard Carter worked.
 
He said they had kept to themselves of late, especially since her health had started failing.
 
"We really didn't get out much. We mainly stayed at home and would work in the yard," said Carter, apologizing for the overgrowngrass. A broken lawn mower, he said, had not been repaired or replaced.
 
"She loved this place. She picked out the house," he said of the couple's manufactured home. "She picked out the lot. We just wantedto live here and have a happy life." 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Nick Danger on December 09, 2014, 07:20:30 AM
Homeschooled teen 'who shot dead his strict parents' appears in court as police reveal he taped flashlight to a rifle

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 09, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
http://www.turnto10.com/story/23065055/vicious-dog-hearing-in-providence



PROVIDENCE -

Ariella Palumbo cried Wednesday as she watched a three-person panel at a vicious dog hearing in Providence vote unanimously to have her pit bull euthanized.




Wooossshhhh the stigma
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on December 09, 2014, 08:47:37 AM
The only good dog is on the dinner table.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 08:57:19 AM
Woman Killed By Pit Bulls She
Raised From Puppies
By Ruth Rendon
c. 2002 Houston Chronicle
7-19-2

SPLENDORA -- A 52-year-old woman who raised pit bull terriers was killed after being mauled by four of them she had raised from puppies, the Harris County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Wednesday.
 
Bernard Lee Carter returned from work about 7 p.m. Tuesday to find the dogs standing over Dorothy Carter, his wife of six years. She was face down in an enclosed back porch, Splendora police Sgt. Mark Seals said.
 
ChronicleAn outside shot of the Carter's home in Splendora."There were a lot of bites all over her," Seals said of the bloody scene. "It's probably the worst I've seen."
 
Carter was pronounced dead at the scene by Cynthia McMillan, Montgomery County Precinct 4 justice of the peace.
 
A preliminary report late Wednesday from the Harris County Medical Examiner's office said Carter died of dog bites. Earlier,officials speculated she might have died as a result of a seizure before being attacked.
 
But Seals said the medical examiner's office reported no evidence that Carter had suffered a seizure before the attack.
 
As a result, Seals said he would ask McMillan for an order to destroy the dogs. McMillan had ordered the dogs impounded. She said a veterinarian had given them medication to empty their stomachs.
 
"It's so gross I can't tell you," McMillan said of the incident, which occurred at the Carter home on Shadow Briar Lane in theDeerbrook subdivision.
 
Carter was severely disfigured and had deep wounds to her arms and legs, Seals said.
 
Officers at the Montgomery County Animal Control, where the dogs are being kept, said the animals -- two of them males -- weighbetween 45 and 100 pounds.
 
Her husband said they range in age from 3 1/2 years to 9 months.
 
The youngest dog, Bud, was Dorothy Carter's lap dog, her husband said.
 
Carter, 50, a mechanic, said the dogs were his wife's protectors. When she recently suffered a seizure in bed, he said, the dogstried to get her up by pulling on her hair.
 
"They always protected her. They were probably trying to get her to get up," a teary-eyed Carter said while sitting in the livingroom of his home. "In my mind that's what happened."
 
He suspects his wife had a seizure in the morning and fell. She was still wearing her morning coat when he found her, he said.
 
Carter said when he left for work at 6:30 a.m. Tuesday, his wife was up. He said if she didn't take her medication early, she wouldtend to forget. Her seizures, he said, had become more severe recently, causing her to fall and hit her head several times.
 
Although pit bull terriers are perceived as vicious, Carter said his four dogs had never exhibited aggression towardhim or his wife.
 
"They've never bitten anybody. They've never harmed any other animal. I don't know what happened," he said. He described the pets asindoor dogs that were prone to sleeping on couches.
 
"They wouldn't hurt anybody," he said.
 
Police have no history of calls to the residence, located on about two acres on a dead-end street, related to animals, Seals said.The one time police went to the home was when Dorothy Carter thought someone was trying to break in, he said.
 
Carter said the dogs would bark if anyone walked onto their property, enclosed by a 400-foot chain-link fence. An electric fence ontop of that is designed to keep the dogs in and stray animals out, he said.
 
The dogs had not left the property in more than a year, except when the couple would take the oldest male, Jack, for a ride in thecar, he said.
 
Carter described Jack as "fat and always just laid around."
 
Carter said he and his wife had been raising pit bulls for about 3 1/2 years and would sell them.
 
"Nobody has ever had any problems with them," he said. "We've never had any problems with them."
 
Neighbor Christie Hantelman, who lives across the street, said the dogs were not aggressive. Nevertheless, she would not go to thehome because of the animals.
 
"I thought she had a seizure and had died from that. I was shocked the dogs had done that," she said.
 
Carter is contemplating how to pay for his wife's funeral expenses. His wife, he said, wanted to be cremated and her ashes spread ontheir property.
 
"I had so many plans for me and her," he said, including improvements to their home, which they had lived in six years. Their planswere sidetracked when she lost her job with an auto parts store. That meant not only the loss of income but also the loss of thecouple's medical insurance.
 
The couple met while Dorothy Carter was delivering parts to the auto mechanic shop where Bernard Carter worked.
 
He said they had kept to themselves of late, especially since her health had started failing.
 
"We really didn't get out much. We mainly stayed at home and would work in the yard," said Carter, apologizing for the overgrowngrass. A broken lawn mower, he said, had not been repaired or replaced.
 
"She loved this place. She picked out the house," he said of the couple's manufactured home. "She picked out the lot. We just wantedto live here and have a happy life." 


This is what I'm talking about everyone else involved see it pretty clear that the dogs killed her. Yet the husband is defending the pits.

From my understanding they can be great dogs for years and all it takes is that one time you move to fast or do something that sets off their hair trigger and that's all it takes.

More then likely what happened here one attacked and being pack animals they all jump in 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Knooger on December 09, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
Carter said the dogs were his wife's protectors.

Hahahahha, someone should have mentioned that to the dogs.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: stavios on December 09, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
depends, huskies are supposed to be fucking stupid


and mine is even stupider  :-\
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on December 09, 2014, 10:46:30 AM
Hahahahha, someone should have mentioned that to the dogs.
lål   ;D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: funk51 on December 09, 2014, 11:03:36 AM
depends, huskies are supposed to be fucking stupid


and mine is even stupider  :-\
yeah but they're cool dogs to be around they don't give a shit about nothing.....fear nothing and they are a hardy breed.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 09, 2014, 11:38:51 AM
The only good dog is on the dinner table.
And you wonder why you people are despised.  ;)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Europe on December 09, 2014, 12:16:55 PM
Got into a pretty heated augment with a die hard pitbull owner, I said there naturly aggressive as they where breed to attack the faces and necks of bears and bulls.

She stated that it's the owners that make them mean.

My response was that pitbulls are not the only dog with bad owners, if that was the case pitbulls wouldn't lead the fatally rate by 75%

She then said well it used by fighters that's why.

I said well why do you think there used for fighting? Is it because of there temperament? There is a reason why they are the number one fighting dog.

Yet she refused to even admit that yes they are more aggressive by nature

Are pitbulls p4p the best fighting dogs? yes..
But noteworthy is that the breed was never intended to be a public dog, the same goes with Neapolitan Mastiff, Tosa Inu and other big Mastiff breeds.

John P. Colby(yr. 1889) was one of the first if not the first to peddle the american pitbull in that time called "Irish fighting bulldog" and other names. Many pitbull enthusiast were against Colby peddling and warned him, yet he ignored and peddled to the public.

However true game pitbulldogs aren't naturally aggressive towards human, that's because when they're fighting in the pit a referee who is stranger to both dogs must feel safe in the small  rectangle area="pit". As well the handlers of the dogs must feel safe when separating the dogs. In many incidents the handler weren't even the owners of the dogs.

Now to the modern era pitbulls, most pitbull owned by the public aren't even pure in the sense to keep it real purpose. Most public pitbulls today are mongrels/mutts and many early peddlers 70's-90's outbreed with american bulldogs, rottweilers, etc.. and peddled to the public as pure American Pitbulls(faked pedigree). Peddlers also didn't carefully breed these dogs, many man-biting pitbulls where breed and it man-biting traits stayed often in the puppies. All for the sake of money

What happens when breeding with other breeds is that aggressive traits towards human begins to appear, old school pitbulls owners always breed their dog to be as loyal/submissive to it's master.

Stupid dog owners will never understand that, in fact many pitbull owners are proud that their dog is the baddest in the block!

My verdict: The Pitbulldog should never be allowed to the public, too many stupid/irresponsible/smallDicked/insecure people.
I think that the pitbull should be abolished, it's serves no purpose to anyone to have a fighting dog anyway.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 09, 2014, 12:32:45 PM
Allow me to end this thread here with logic.
1. Pits have incredibily thick necks and muscles which can do damage to delicate animals like humans
2. That is why you hear about the attacks as they can be very brutal, and media loves a villian (pits are easy villans).
3. People make bad dogs. End of story
4. Google "lab attacks kid" and scroll thru the countless articles...
5. They are no more aggressive towards people than any other dog unless owned by shit heads who beat, or torture their animals.
6. Love how eager you guys call out media outlets when they say "BBer attacks girlfriend". The media does the same thing with dogs. Say its a pitbull and you immediately get emotional and judgemental reaction from the niave dumbies who watch TV. The dog could be 1/4 pitt and media will call it a pit for ratings.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on December 09, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
And you wonder why you people are despised.  ;)

Think of all the protein one can consume off of a doggy. :)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: stavios on December 09, 2014, 12:57:24 PM
yeah but they're cool dogs to be around they don't give a shit about nothing.....fear nothing and they are a hardy breed.

fuck yeah my puppy is fearless he doesn't give a fuck, like a honeybadger

but he won't learn nothing  ;D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 04:15:01 PM
Allow me to end this thread here with logic.
1. Pits have incredibily thick necks and muscles which can do damage to delicate animals like humans
2. That is why you hear about the attacks as they can be very brutal, and media loves a villian (pits are easy villans).
3. People make bad dogs. End of story
4. Google "lab attacks kid" and scroll thru the countless articles...
5. They are no more aggressive towards people than any other dog unless owned by shit heads who beat, or torture their animals.
6. Love how eager you guys call out media outlets when they say "BBer attacks girlfriend". The media does the same thing with dogs. Say its a pitbull and you immediately get emotional and judgemental reaction from the niave dumbies who watch TV. The dog could be 1/4 pitt and media will call it a pit for ratings.

But facts are facts man, 66 deaths per year for pitbulls, 3 for labs they lead the fatality rate by 75%. You think that people are scared of these dogs just cuz?

It's common sense a animal that p4p is the most dangerous dog out there and the numbers prove that.

A 70lb lab is more then capable of killing me if it wanted to. But the numbers are not there.

The fact that a pit is more capable of being a killer is exactly my point. There for they are a extremely dangerous dog
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: _aj_ on December 09, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
I had a pit/lab mix when I lived in FL. I used to go to the local dog park and noticed that all the scary looking pits there there had gangsta or wigger owners. I always carried a gun at the dog park because Florida. I made up my mind that if a pit is attacking, my second round is going into the owner.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
I had a pit/lab mix when I lived in FL. I used to go to the local dog park and noticed that all the scary looking pits there there had gangsta or wigger owners. I always carried a gun at the dog park because Florida. I made up my mind that if a pit is attacking, my second round is going into the owner.

AJ I like your thinking!!
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 09, 2014, 04:24:34 PM
But facts are facts man, 66 deaths per year for pitbulls, 3 for labs they lead the fatality rate by 75%. You think that people are scared of these dogs just cuz?

It's common sense a animal that p4p is the most dangerous dog out there and the numbers prove that.

A 70lb lab is more then capable of killing me if it wanted to. But the numbers are not there.

The fact that a pit is more capable of being a killer is exactly my point. There for they are a extremely dangerous dog

Yah i agree with you for the most part. Lots of nice pits and pit owners though. Where i live, the pound and shelter is full of them, so for people like me who laugh at people paying for dogs, go there to adopt them. 99 percent are amazing dogs
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
Yah i agree with you for the most part. Lots of nice pits and pit owners though. Where i live, the pound and shelter is full of them, so for people like me who laugh at people paying for dogs, go there to adopt them. 99 percent are amazing dogs

I just picked up a dog from the pound 2 weeks and man it was terrible over 500 dogs and a lot of pits. Funny story I thought the dog I got might have been plott hound/ pit mixed.  The vet thinks it a boxer/plott mix
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 09, 2014, 04:38:25 PM
I just picked up a dog from the pound 2 weeks and man it was terrible over 500 dogs and a lot of pits. Funny story I thought the dog I got might have been plott hound/ pit mixed.  The vet thinks it a boxer/plott mix

Nice man, fellow doggy dad here. Glad you saved its life. The pound is depressing but that one dog u got opened up a spot for another dog needing a home so a dog adopted saves 2 dogs, not 1.

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: 6 Reps on December 09, 2014, 08:26:09 PM
I have just spent 20 years volunteering at an animal shelter.  Over the years, we have had dozens of pits, and my conclusion is that they are wonderful dogs.   I would adopt one in a minute.

They are smart and very affectionate, they will jump in your lap and lick your face off with love.

The downside of them is that they are very strong, they have a wider bite than other dogs, and they are extremely loyal to their owners.  Hence if they sense their owner is slightly threatened, they'll intercede.  Dogs don't do very well distinguishing between friend and foe.

The meanest breed I have seen in all these years are Chows.   Those dogs can be real motherfuckers.

It breaks my heart when I see these gangsta kids with a pit and have a spike collar on it.  The kids are trying to act tough, think having a pit is going to make them look tough, and the pit is just happily sauntering along, waiting to be petted. And loved.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on December 09, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
Ah, the obligatory " how safe are pitbulls" thread ...it always comes up every few months.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Dr.J on December 10, 2014, 12:02:22 AM
Sweet dogs, really. .mine is a grey, she turned 4 today.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: DanM on December 10, 2014, 12:48:49 AM
It's not that they're more likely to attack, it's the fact that when and if they do attack due to their make up they have a much more likely chance of causing great bodily harm and or death, not sure why that would even be a debatable topic as anyone with a ounce of common sense should be able to come to that conclusion. I'm a big animal advocate myself but don't allow my like for any certain breed or animal to make me delusional.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on December 10, 2014, 09:36:14 AM
It's not that they're more likely to attack, it's the fact that when and if they do attack due to their make up they have a much more likely chance of causing great bodily harm and or death, not sure why that would even be a debatable topic as anyone with a ounce of common sense should be able to come to that conclusion. I'm a big animal advocate myself but don't allow my like for any certain breed or animal to make me delusional.
Racist!
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Knooger on December 10, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
Racist!

Well said.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 03, 2015, 08:10:59 PM
175 pound Pitbull named HULK... And still growing. lol. This thing is massive. They named it Hulk and Lou Ferrigno is trying to sue them for $20...

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on March 03, 2015, 11:07:47 PM
175 pound Pitbull named HULK... And still growing. lol. This thing is massive. They named it Hulk and Lou Ferrigno is trying to sue them for $20...



How surprising, teen trash parents with a pitbull. How long until this dog bites the kid in half?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 04, 2015, 01:18:37 AM
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Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 04, 2015, 01:38:07 AM
Can pitbulls be dangerous? Yes
Are they dangerous under normal conditions? No

Pitbulls by themselves are not dangerous, but can be dangerous. And do indeed possess some physical and genetic traits that make them more dangerous. But all things considered, it's up to the owner to keep their dog out of unwanted circumstances where they may lash out. Knowing full well that with a powerful dog such as a pitbull comes risks and responsibilities.

In the end, no dog is more dangerous than their owner allows them to be. If the owner knows the dog, has control over the dog, and knows how to handle the dog, there are no issues.

Pitbulls are not for everyone.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on March 04, 2015, 04:19:42 AM
Tibetan Mastiff - 160 to 200 lbs.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Bevo on March 04, 2015, 04:22:52 AM
It's funny pitbull owners 9 out of 10 are always Hebrews or Mexicans, if they are white its white trailer trash. Hmmmm
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Bevo on March 04, 2015, 04:24:32 AM
How surprising, teen trash parents with a pitbull. How long until this dog bites the kid in half?


We can only wish
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on March 04, 2015, 07:27:32 AM
It's funny pitbull owners 9 out of 10 are always Hebrews or Mexicans, if they are white its white trailer trash. Hmmmm

Indeed, it's funny you never see a white male in a suit with university education walking around with a pitbull.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 04, 2015, 08:08:41 AM
Indeed, it's funny you never see a white male in a suit with university education walking around with a pitbull.
Yes, one does. If they happen to be walking one in their suit prior to work. Normally people don't wear suits or their dress from work while walking a dog. But, on rare occasions, you may see that.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: devilsmile on March 04, 2015, 08:16:57 AM
pits are so over rated as a bad ass breed, just stop

caucasian shepherd ftw!

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Palumboism on March 04, 2015, 09:27:57 AM
I just picked up a dog from the pound 2 weeks and man it was terrible over 500 dogs and a lot of pits. Funny story I thought the dog I got might have been plott hound/ pit mixed.  The vet thinks it a boxer/plott mix

That dog is 100% American Pit Bull Terrier and you will love it!

Some of the best books about the breed were written by Richard Stratton.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/timjimhoy/DSC00168.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on March 04, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
Yes, one does. If they happen to be walking one in their suit prior to work. Normally people don't wear suits or their dress from work while walking a dog. But, on rare occasions, you may see that.

You'll still be hard pressed finding well educated people (regardless of race) owning this type of breed. Pitbulls and other breeds of fighting dog are strongly correlated with thugs.


Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 04, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
You'll still be hard pressed finding well educated people (regardless of race) owning this type of breed. Pitbulls and other breeds of fighting dog are strongly correlated with thugs.




Dumbest shit ive ever heard. These "thugs" grow tired of their dog for whatever reason, then pawn off the responsibility to "white collar" types like me. These shelters in my area are full of pits who need loving homes after their shit fucking "owners" give them up. They are amazing dogs (just like ANY dog). People who buy animals from pet stores or breeders are scum just like those who buy dogs and then give them to a shelter when they realize its an inconveience. My neighborhood is full of well off and well meaning pit owners who are doing their part by saving / adopting animals that need permanent loving homes
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 04, 2015, 12:01:27 PM
Tibetan Mastiff - 160 to 200 lbs.

THE BEEF

Totally useless in hot climate  ;D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: tren4life on March 04, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
Dumbest shit ive ever heard. These "thugs" grow tired of their dog for whatever reason, then pawn off the responsibility to "white collar" types like me. These shelters in my area are full of pits who need loving homes after their shit fucking "owners" give them up. They are amazing dogs (just like ANY dog). People who buy animals from pet stores or breeders are scum just like those who buy dogs and then give them to a shelter when they realize its an inconveience. My neighborhood is full of well off and well meaning pit owners who are doing their part by saving / adopting animals that need permanent loving homes

I have adopted two pits who would have been euthanized. I agree they are great dogs but not everyone can handle the breed.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 04, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
I thought the inner-city ghetto plot was the deadliest breed?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 04, 2015, 07:05:19 PM
Can pitbulls be dangerous? Yes
Are they dangerous under normal conditions? No

Pitbulls by themselves are not dangerous, but can be dangerous. And do indeed possess some physical and genetic traits that make them more dangerous. But all things considered, it's up to the owner to keep their dog out of unwanted circumstances where they may lash out. Knowing full well that with a powerful dog such as a pitbull comes risks and responsibilities.

In the end, no dog is more dangerous than their owner allows them to be. If the owner knows the dog, has control over the dog, and knows how to handle the dog, there are no issues.

Pitbulls are not for everyone.
after generations of breeding the pitbull is a headcase it can be very affectionate and well bite your face off moments later
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: D.O.A. on March 04, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
NO!
Any dog can be dangerous. I believe a" East German Shepard "is the most dangerous one.
Love dogs
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 04, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
after generations of breeding the pitbull is a headcase it can be very affectionate and well bite your face off moments later
::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on March 04, 2015, 09:01:53 PM
Dumbest shit ive ever heard. These "thugs" grow tired of their dog for whatever reason, then pawn off the responsibility to "white collar" types like me. These shelters in my area are full of pits who need loving homes after their shit fucking "owners" give them up. They are amazing dogs (just like ANY dog). People who buy animals from pet stores or breeders are scum just like those who buy dogs and then give them to a shelter when they realize its an inconveience. My neighborhood is full of well off and well meaning pit owners who are doing their part by saving / adopting animals that need permanent loving homes

LOL! buying dogs from a breeder makes you ''scum''?

interesting perspective  ???

that reminds, me I need to pick up some more raw liver for my horrifically abused German Rottie on the way home
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 04, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
::)
dont tell me you have a second cousin that knows someone that has a pit thats great with kids and toy poodles ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 09:46:30 PM
The more important question is what should we ban first: Guns or pitbulls?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 03:38:39 AM
LOL! buying dogs from a breeder makes you ''scum''?

interesting perspective  ???

that reminds, me I need to pick up some more raw liver for my horrifically abused German Rottie on the way home

Yeah it does. Too many dogs out there that need homes. Why pay for one, and create even more unwanted animals at the same time?

"But mommy, i want a brand new cute puppy!"....lol
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: devilsmile on March 05, 2015, 04:59:07 AM
after generations of breeding the pitbull is a headcase it can be very affectionate and well bite your face off moments later

(http://media.giphy.com/media/L8XuphFGqlSfe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on March 05, 2015, 05:31:46 AM
::)

When a white pit bites you, I'm not going to do nothing at all.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2015, 05:34:42 AM
Yeah it does. Too many dogs out there that need homes. Why pay for one, and create even more unwanted animals at the same time?

"But mommy, i want a brand new cute puppy!"....lol

Too many foster children out there need homes... but I'm not going to think less of someone that has a baby of their own...
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 05:39:29 AM
after generations of breeding the pitbull is a headcase it can be very affectionate and well bite your face off moments later
The same could be said about Cocker Spaniels. The breed seems to have issues with Rage Syndrome. Even though RS does occur in other breeds, it seems to be more prevalent in English Cocker Spaniels
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 05, 2015, 05:41:46 AM
The same could be said about Cocker Spaniels. The breed seems to have issues with Rage Syndrome. Even though RS does occur in other breeds, it seems to be more prevalent in English Cocker Spaniels
yeah theres no difference in inflicted damage  ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 05:43:10 AM
Too many foster children out there need homes... but I'm not going to think less of someone that has a baby of their own...
the problem with this thinking, is that you have too many backyard breeders who try and make a profit. And some of these breeders do have connections to underground dogfighting.
And, you as LE can make the connection with dogfighting, guns, and drugs.
There are reputable pit bull breeders, but many are as shady as a large Oak tree.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: NordicNerd on March 05, 2015, 05:52:41 AM
the problem with this thinking, is that you have too many backyard breeders who try and make a profit. And some of these breeders do have connections to underground dogfighting.
And, you as LE can make the connection with dogfighting, guns, and drugs.
There are reputable pit bull breeders, but many are as shady as a large Oak tree.

Here in Norway, almost no well-educated person will own a Pitbull or similar dog. It is a dog for people on welfare, criminals etc. It makes sense- why would anyone want a dog that scares people? Thus, it is almost impossible to disentangle the owner influence from genetic traits in the dog. There are some studies on dog agression that are interesting- here is one: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168159108001147

NN
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 05:52:50 AM
yeah theres no difference in inflicted damage  ::)
damage is damage...
Before pit bulls were all the rage, it was Rotts. Before that Dobermans and German Shepards...
Gee, three German breeds. The Rott is a big dog, a Molosser breed, just like the pit bull. And could and did inflict a lot of damage. The German Shepard and Doberman, due to their size and shape of jaws, have more scissor like bites...but still inflict damage.

The problem is, while the pit bull was bred to be a fighting dog, it's not some mythical killing machine. It was created by man, so it is flawed, as all dogs are.

If you cut down on the backyard breeders, have the AKC help establish certain lines, and breed standards (which means that the breed is recognized by the AKC), the issues that arise may be cut down.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2015, 05:54:13 AM
the problem with this thinking, is that you have too many backyard breeders who try and make a profit. And some of these breeders do have connections to underground dogfighting.
And, you as LE can make the connection with dogfighting, guns, and drugs.
There are reputable pit bull breeders, but many are as shady as a large Oak tree.

I'm talking dogs in general. I'm a tad biased about Pit Bulls. When I read articles where a man comes home to find his wife torn apart from the pit bulls they raised as puppies with no inclination there were mistreated or trained to fight it causes me concern. It's not an isolated incident. I think there are pit bulls that are out there that are harmless, but when things go bad with a pit, they go really really bad so I personally wouldn't take that chance. I fully admit my position is likely biased based on my experiences with them and the news I've watched over the years.   
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FermiDirac on March 05, 2015, 05:57:55 AM
Here in Norway, almost no well-educated person will own a Pitbull or similar dog. It is a dog for people on welfare, criminals etc. It makes sense- why would anyone want a dog that scares people? Thus, it is almost impossible to disentangle the owner influence from genetic traits in the dog. There are some studies on dog agression that are interesting- here is one: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168159108001147

NN

This guy gets it.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 05:58:45 AM
Here in Norway, almost no well-educated person will own a Pitbull or similar dog. It is a dog for people on welfare, criminals etc. It makes sense- why would anyone want a dog that scares people? Thus, it is almost impossible to disentangle the owner influence from genetic traits in the dog. There are some studies on dog agression that are interesting- here is one: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168159108001147

NN
People are scared of the reputation. And the idiots that you mentioned get the dogs want to be associated with the reputation. If the dog didn't exist, then it would Rotts, English Staffy, Dobermans, etc.

Yet, would you say the same about the English Staffy, English Bull Terrier?
Or, let's go into how the bulldog came into being?

And by the way, if a person was well educated, then they would see that their own ignorance clouds their own judgement.

You should say, "people who are scared of being judged by picking a dog with such a reputation do not own pit bulls".

 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: NordicNerd on March 05, 2015, 06:07:01 AM
People are scared of the reputation. And the idiots that you mentioned get the dogs want to be associated with the reputation. If the dog didn't exist, then it would Rotts, English Staffy, Dobermans, etc.

Yet, would you say the same about the English Staffy, English Bull Terrier?
Or, let's go into how the bulldog came into being?

And by the way, if a person was well educated, then they would see that their own ignorance clouds their own judgement.

You should say, "people who are scared of being judged by picking a dog with such a reputation do not own pit bulls".
 

Both statements can be correct- there is no incompatibility. But you hint at some sort of social construction in the perception of dog breed "dangerousness". I guess you are right to some degree, but what is the origin of the perception? Dog historians should chime in!  :)

NN
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 05, 2015, 06:08:15 AM

Yet, would you say the same about the English Staffy, English Bull Terrier?
its a better dog than its unstable american cousin

Or, let's go into how the bulldog came into being?
whats your point it was initially bred for baiting now its bred for handicaps
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 06:09:03 AM
I'm talking dogs in general. I'm a tad biased about Pit Bulls. When I read articles where a man comes home to find his wife torn apart from the pit bulls they raised as puppies with no inclination there were mistreated or trained to fight it causes me concern. It's not an isolated incident. I think there are pit bulls that are out there that are harmless, but when things go bad with a pit, they go really really bad so I personally wouldn't take that chance. I fully admit my position is likely biased based on my experiences with them and the news I've watched over the years.   
Here is where these "tear jerker" stories fail to mention. Have you seen the way people raise their children today? And their dogs? I've seen pits, Dobermans, retrievers, water dogs, etc, whose owners are better off with mice or a pet rock. And then when they have kids, they raise their kids in a similar way. The dogs are out of control or are allowed to buck authority, and so are children.

As I said before, before it was Rotts and Dobermans, and before that German Shepards. Those were the "scary breeds".
 
Pitbulls didn't get their "Jaws" status until the late 80s. And then all these articles were on them. And because they are "bad dogs", bad people wanted to own them.

No dog is harmless. That is the problem with humans, we think that since we breed cutesy dogs, that they are harmless. We believe that since we have raised a dog from a puppy that they are harmless. Many dogs have mental issues---some due to genetics, due to their breeding. Dogs are mutants, creates by man not nature. And as such, they will have problems and issues that would have been sorted out by nature.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 06:14:14 AM
its a better dog than its american cousin
whats your point it was initially bred for baiting now its bred for handicaps
English Staffys were breed for the same reason. And so were Bull Terriers. Bull Terriers were not as good at it. One could say that the English Staffy is the progenitor of the American Pit Bull. Same brick like head, same thick neck, eyes, mouth, muscular body. Except,  the American is slightly scaled up.
It could be said that without the English Staffy, there would be no American version.

I don't think the Brits outlaw their own dog breeds (that I have mentioned), which were breed to be fighting dogs, but the American breed has been banned. Think about that for a moment. Does that even make sense?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 05, 2015, 06:17:40 AM

I don't think the Brits outlaw their own dog breeds, which were breed to be fighting dogs, but the American breed has been banned. Think about that for a moment. Does that even make sense?
its not the same dog
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 06:24:35 AM
its not the same dog
Phenotypically, you have pits that look just like English Staffys.
As as matter of fact, since Pits are banned in the UK, shady folks try and get their fighting pits registered as English Staffys.

Since pits are a working breed, many a breeder doesn't  adhere much to a breed standard, that the UKC has set. The AKC doesn't recognize the Pit Bull as a breed, but recognizes the Americsn Staffy as a breed. The American Staffy is a show breed, and adheres more to a breed standard.

Many a pit bull looks like a hound dog, but classic Pit Bull look, adheres more to the look of the English Staffy.
Not the same dog, but one can say that the English Staffy is the progenitor in terms of genetics and aesthetics.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2015, 08:28:19 AM
These discussions are like religious or political discussions. :D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: CalvinH on March 05, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
These discussions are like religious or political discussions. :D


Everybody knows that the most dangerous breed is humans.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 08:49:50 AM
If I ever decide to own a dog, I am going to buy a yorkie.  :D :D

(http://www.top10puppies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/teacup-yorkie-price.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2015, 09:08:30 AM
If I ever decide to own a dog, I am going to buy a yorkie.  :D :D

(http://www.top10puppies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/teacup-yorkie-price.jpg)

I have two... they won't tear my face off but they will take over my pillow when I get up to go to the bathroom at night...
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 09:12:13 AM
I have two... they won't tear my face off but they will take over my pillow when I get up to go to the bathroom at night...

They are very cute dogs :-)

If I was going to own a bigger dog, Id get a labrador retriever.

(http://www.incuboom.com/global/images/article/Labrador_Retrievers.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Palumboism on March 05, 2015, 09:15:22 AM
Phenotypically, you have pits that look just like English Staffys.
As as matter of fact, since Pits are banned in the UK, shady folks try and get their fighting pits registered as English Staffys.

Since pits are a working breed, many a breeder doesn't  adhere much to a breed standard, that the UKC has set. The AKC doesn't recognize the Pit Bull as a breed, but recognizes the Americsn Staffy as a breed. The American Staffy is a show breed, and adheres more to a breed standard.

Many a pit bull looks like a hound dog, but classic Pit Bull look, adheres more to the look of the English Staffy.
Not the same dog, but one can say that the English Staffy is the progenitor in terms of genetics and aesthetics.


Don't Forget the American Dog Breeders Association.


Quote form ADBA web site. 7/15/2013

   With the announcement that the United Kennel Club (UKC) has now added the American Bully to its list of recognized breeds, effective July 15, 2013, and with their statement “It is undeniable that there are UKC registered American Pit Bull Terriers that more closely meet the American Bully breed standard. APBT owners who would prefer to have their dog(s) registered as American Bullys may request to change their dog's breed designation by using the breed transfer form also located on the UKC website.” and “The American Bully, whose foundation stock is undeniably the American Pit Bull Terrier, was also developed by blending in stock from other bull breeds.”  they have basically admitted that their American Pit Bull Terrier studbook has been compromised.

It is my belief that the the only true American Pit Bull Terriers are those registered by the ADBA.




Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Knooger on March 05, 2015, 09:21:51 AM
If I ever decide to own a dog, I am going to buy a yorkie.  :D :D

(http://www.top10puppies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/teacup-yorkie-price.jpg)

It could gnaw off your cock while you sleep.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 09:32:04 AM
Too many foster children out there need homes... but I'm not going to think less of someone that has a baby of their own...

Buying dogs is idiotic and just adds to the compounding problem (not to mention the ethical issues about dog breeding). Totally different than having your own kid and you know it. You paid for a dog huh?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Buying dogs is idiotic and just adds to the compounding problem (not to mention the ethical issues about dog breeding). Totally different than having your own kid and you know it. You paid for a dog huh?

Yeah.. the Yorkie Rescue placed charged me $125 to cover their costs.. so yep.. paid for my dog
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2015, 09:51:58 AM

Don't Forget the American Dog Breeders Association.


Quote form ADBA web site. 7/15/2013

   With the announcement that the United Kennel Club (UKC) has now added the American Bully to its list of recognized breeds, effective July 15, 2013, and with their statement “It is undeniable that there are UKC registered American Pit Bull Terriers that more closely meet the American Bully breed standard. APBT owners who would prefer to have their dog(s) registered as American Bullys may request to change their dog's breed designation by using the breed transfer form also located on the UKC website.” and “The American Bully, whose foundation stock is undeniably the American Pit Bull Terrier, was also developed by blending in stock from other bull breeds.”  they have basically admitted that their American Pit Bull Terrier studbook has been compromised.

It is my belief that the the only true American Pit Bull Terriers are those registered by the ADBA.





American Bullys look weird, not agile--front legs too wide apart, and like they have breathing problems. The front half looks too big for the middle and rear. Neck and head too big for the front legs. And with wide stance, they have this image of almost toppling over.

They look like bodybuilders...unathleti c ones.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 12:14:30 PM
Yeah.. the Yorkie Rescue placed charged me $125 to cover their costs.. so yep.. paid for my dog

Good man. Thats what i paid each at the pound as well. My asshole friend paid like 5k and had his bred and imported from another state-picked it up at the airport where it was flown in for him, like a total suburban doofus. I gave him shit for about a year.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2015, 12:16:45 PM
Good man. Thats what i paid each at the pound as well. My asshole friend paid like 5k and had his bred and imported from another state-picked it up at the airport where it was flown in for him, like a total suburban doofus. I gave him shit for about a year.
Know someone that did this with 3 of them. More money than brains.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: bradistani on March 05, 2015, 12:17:27 PM
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on March 05, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
Yeah it does. Too many dogs out there that need homes. Why pay for one, and create even more unwanted animals at the same time?

"But mommy, i want a brand new cute puppy!"....lol

LOL, ok

if you can find an un-neutered Rottie with schutzhund (bite sport) national champion lineage in a shelter I'll adopt it in a flash but good luck with that.

dogs like mine never end up in the shelter because Hebrews and other poor people cant afford them (and no way am I ever owning a castrated dog, that's the worst possible thing to do to a working animal unless you want to make it insecure, skittish and much more dangerous)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 01:23:40 PM
LOL, ok

if you can find an un-neutered Rottie with schutzhund (bite sport) national champion lineage in a shelter I'll adopt it in a flash but good luck with that.

dogs like mine never end up in the shelter because Hebrews and other poor people cant afford them (and no way am I ever owning a castrated dog, that's the worst possible thing to do to a working animal unless you want to make it insecure, skittish and much more dangerous)


Right, so your the problem we are all talking about. lol what responsible pet owner doesnt neuter his dog? Come on bro, thats why the shelters are full of dogs. I can see allowing it if u never intend to have it off a leash around other animals, but thats what all people "say" they are gonna do. Next thing u know, a dog 3 houses down has 8 pups and 6 of those end up at a shelter once the family "moves" or "it snapped at my kid" or "it pees in my house" or the billion other fake excuses i hear at the shelter when people drop off an animal and pawn the responsibility off on someone else. Its a never ending cycle of stupidity . There are tons of "neutered" maLe dogs that get put down or never adopted at the shelter cuz some douche with a complex doesnt want a dog without balls...dont get me started on how twisted that shit is

Just about as weird and twisted as ordering a certain specific breed for a certain look. Dogs aint fashion accessories, hence why thugs end up with pits in the first place. Its backward logic and is just as bad as a thugs logic for wanting a specific dog. No one is impressed.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 01:29:45 PM
It could gnaw off your cock while you sleep.

haha lol. Yorkies are awesome!
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 01:31:01 PM
Yeah.. the Yorkie Rescue placed charged me $125 to cover their costs.. so yep.. paid for my dog

Post some pics of your yorkies, broskie.  :) :)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
Something is clearly going on here. You can't just ignore the evidence. Is this man's doing? Did man create a more aggressive animal

Damn, in 2015, 3 deaths by pitbullls already.

Eugene Smith
87-years old | Frederick, MD
Eugene Smith, 87-years old, was fatally attacked by his family pit bull while taking down his Christmas tree. The dog was still viciously attacking him when Frederick County deputies.

Declan Moss
18-months old | Brooksville, FL
Declan Moss, 18-months old, was mauled to death by two family pit bull-mixes.

Malaki Mildward
7-years old | College Springs, IA
Malaki Mildward, 7-years old, was viciously killed by two 8 or 9-month old pit bull-mixes while playing in his yard. There were two adult pit bulls, a male and female, also living at the home, but were inside during the attack.

A review of 82 dog bite cases at a level 1 trauma center where the breed of dog was identified concludes that attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Bini, John K. MD; Cohn, Stephen M. MD; Acosta, Shirley M. RN, BSN; McFarland, Marilyn J. RN, MS; Muir, Mark T. MD; Michalek, Joel E. PhD; for the TRISAT Clinical Trials Group, Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs, Annals of Surgery (April 2011, Vol. 253, Issue 4, pp. 791–797).

Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening. According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls. In recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers: "Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992.

Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through 1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about halfof human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993through 1996.

There is a persistent allegation by pit bull terrier advocates that pit bulls are overrepresented among reported dog attack deaths and maimings because of misidentifications or because “pit bull” is, according to them, a generic term covering several similar types of dog. However, the frequency of pit bull attacks among these worst-in-10,000 cases is so disproportionate that even if half of the attacks in the pit bull category were misattributed, or even if the pit bull category was split three ways, attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.

The Top 5 Dog Breeds Involved in Fatal Attacks on Humans in the United States & Canada
     Dog Breed    Fatal Attacks    Percentage of all Fatal Attacks    Attacks Causing Injuries
1    Pit Bull    233 deaths                    45.4%                                       2,235 attacks  
   
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 02:01:15 PM
Something is clearly going on here. You can't just ignore the evidence. Is this man's doing? Did man create a more aggressive animal

Damn, in 2015, 3 deaths by pitbullls already.

Eugene Smith
87-years old | Frederick, MD
Eugene Smith, 87-years old, was fatally attacked by his family pit bull while taking down his Christmas tree. The dog was still viciously attacking him when Frederick County deputies.

Declan Moss
18-months old | Brooksville, FL
Declan Moss, 18-months old, was mauled to death by two family pit bull-mixes.

Malaki Mildward
7-years old | College Springs, IA
Malaki Mildward, 7-years old, was viciously killed by two 8 or 9-month old pit bull-mixes while playing in his yard. There were two adult pit bulls, a male and female, also living at the home, but were inside during the attack.

A review of 82 dog bite cases at a level 1 trauma center where the breed of dog was identified concludes that attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Bini, John K. MD; Cohn, Stephen M. MD; Acosta, Shirley M. RN, BSN; McFarland, Marilyn J. RN, MS; Muir, Mark T. MD; Michalek, Joel E. PhD; for the TRISAT Clinical Trials Group, Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs, Annals of Surgery (April 2011, Vol. 253, Issue 4, pp. 791–797).

Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening. According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

As of May 25, 2013, the USA death count from dogs in 2013 is 14. Of these, 13 people were killed by pit bulls. In recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers: "Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992.

Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through 1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about halfof human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993through 1996.

There is a persistent allegation by pit bull terrier advocates that pit bulls are overrepresented among reported dog attack deaths and maimings because of misidentifications or because “pit bull” is, according to them, a generic term covering several similar types of dog. However, the frequency of pit bull attacks among these worst-in-10,000 cases is so disproportionate that even if half of the attacks in the pit bull category were misattributed, or even if the pit bull category was split three ways, attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.

The Top 5 Dog Breeds Involved in Fatal Attacks on Humans in the United States & Canada
     Dog Breed    Fatal Attacks    Percentage of all Fatal Attacks    Attacks Causing Injuries
1    Pit Bull    233 deaths                    45.4%                                       2,235 attacks  
   

No question there is somethin goin on with pits. Howver, the one where some husband comes home and finds dogs eating his wife or the guy who taking down his xmas tree, there is something up that doesnt make sense. There had to have been signs, maybe the dog was off, was beaten by the owner...etc. my dogs are well adjusted and I know them...like really know them. They are family members. I just dont buy the "it was totally loving, then one day i came home and it ripped my wifes face off as she slept"...that doesnt add up. Either incredibly niave people or sometthin else. Not sure
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 02:05:09 PM
No question there is somethin goin on with pits. Howver, the one where some husband comes home and finds dogs eating his wife or the guy who taking down his xmas tree, there is something up that doesnt make sense. There had to have been signs, maybe the dog was off, was beaten by the owner...etc. my dogs are well adjusted and I know them...like really know them. They are family members. I just dont buy the "it was totally loving, then one day i came home and it ripped my wifes face off as she slept"...that doesnt add up. Either incredibly niave people or sometthin else. Not sure

But what about the 2 stories above where 2 little children were killed by pitbulls? I doubt these families were treating them badly, unless they had a history of abuse. Who knows. There is enough evidence to suggest that either pitbulls are more aggressive by nature or man really screwed up their genetic makeup by making them more aggressive. Or maybe its both.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2015, 02:12:42 PM
But what about the 2 stories above where 2 little children were killed by pitbulls? I doubt these families were treating them badly, unless they had a history of abuse. Who knows. There is enough evidence to suggest that either pitbulls are more aggressive by nature or man really screwed up their genetic makeup by making them more aggressive. Or maybe its both.
Yet if we change the word pitbull with a human race it becomes a socioeconomic problem, right? ::)
Trolling again? Lame
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 02:19:06 PM
I have two... they won't tear my face off but they will take over my pillow when I get up to go to the bathroom at night...

 :D

(http://qzfwq3rieno15cw5madptxpgi.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bundle-of-cute.jpg)

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/janaemanigault/default/cute-yorkie--large-msg-139275268622.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: TestDummy on March 05, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
(http://www.curiosityaroused.com/wp-content/uploads/dobermann.jpg)

I want a doberman, just cool looking dogs
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 05, 2015, 02:44:46 PM
But what about the 2 stories above where 2 little children were killed by pitbulls? I doubt these families were treating them badly, unless they had a history of abuse. Who knows. There is enough evidence to suggest that either pitbulls are more aggressive by nature or man really screwed up their genetic makeup by making them more aggressive. Or maybe its both.

I think that's it's both.. They are more aggressive so white trash, Mexicans and Hebrews breed them for that reason because their little brain thinks having a mean dog makes them "tougher" I guess.

Humans are the same way. Some are more aggressive then others... Hence Hebrews

 According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[33][34][35]
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
I think that's it's both.. They are more aggressive so white trash, Mexicans and Hebrews breed them for that reason because their little brain thinks having a mean dog makes them "tougher" I guess.

Humans are the same way. Some are more aggressive then others... Hence Hebrews

 According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[33][34][35]

Well, I did read that some states are now making it a felony if your caught dog breeding. I think some states have this law, but others are now catching on. Perhaps that may stop some of the aggression.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 05, 2015, 02:59:14 PM
Well, I did read that some states are now making it a felony if your caught dog breeding. I think some states have this law, but others are now catching on. Perhaps that may stop some of the aggression.

I hope it does. You can easily breed more and more aggressive dogs. 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Henda on March 05, 2015, 03:09:14 PM
I think that's it's both.. They are more aggressive so white trash, Mexicans and Hebrews breed them for that reason because their little brain thinks having a mean dog makes them "tougher" I guess.

Humans are the same way. Some are more aggressive then others... Hence Hebrews

 According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[33][34][35]

Similar to what we have other here, skinny little white fags with shitty crudely drawn tattoos and horizontally striped clothing swaggering down the street with an invisible roll of carpet under each arm and a Staffordshire bull terrier in tow, the dog instantly elevates them to prime Mike Tyson status
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: SF1900 on March 05, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
I hope it does. You can easily breed more and more aggressive dogs. 

Not dog breeding. A felony for dog fighting. I spoke wrong.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 05, 2015, 04:01:42 PM
It's funny pitbull owners 9 out of 10 are always Hebrews or Mexicans, if they are white its white trailer trash. Hmmmm

and that's exactly why pit bulls are constantly in the news and in an animal shelter

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Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on March 05, 2015, 04:19:27 PM
Right, so your the problem we are all talking about. lol what responsible pet owner doesnt neuter his dog? Come on bro, thats why the shelters are full of dogs. I can see allowing it if u never intend to have it off a leash around other animals, but thats what all people "say" they are gonna do. Next thing u know, a dog 3 houses down has 8 pups and 6 of those end up at a shelter once the family "moves" or "it snapped at my kid" or "it pees in my house" or the billion other fake excuses i hear at the shelter when people drop off an animal and pawn the responsibility off on someone else. Its a never ending cycle of stupidity . There are tons of "neutered" maLe dogs that get put down or never adopted at the shelter cuz some douche with a complex doesnt want a dog without balls...dont get me started on how twisted that shit is

Just about as weird and twisted as ordering a certain specific breed for a certain look. Dogs aint fashion accessories, hence why thugs end up with pits in the first place. Its backward logic and is just as bad as a thugs logic for wanting a specific dog. No one is impressed.

I really don't know where to begin with all this but there's a reason no police, army or other working dog is neutered.. and they somehow manage not to impregnate the neighbors animals

research what removing a dogs testicles does to it's health and temperament before you condemn another poor animal to a sub par life because of the Human Societies nonsense. Dr Karen Becker is a good place to start.




dogs without testosterone in their bodies can't do this ^
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 05, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
I really don't know where to begin with all this but there's a reason no police, army or other working dog is neutered.. and they somehow manage not to impregnate the neighbors animals

research what removing a dogs testicles does to it's health and temperament before you condemn another poor animal to a sub par life because of the Human Societies nonsense. Dr Karen Becker is a good place to start.




dogs without testosterone in their bodies can't do this ^

Ok, are u in any of above mentioned professions? Do you work with dogs to hunt bad guys or rescue people?

So I made no points you agree with in my post?

So u just want a dog that bites good (according to your video you posted)? So you buy dogs to be a tool to be used, not as a family member? This sounds oddly like pitbull "thug" owners. I think we have very different ethical and idealogical view points here on this topic.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on March 05, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
Ok, are u in any of above mentioned professions? Do you work with dogs to hunt bad guys or rescue people?

So I made no points you agree with in my post?

So u just want a dog that bites good (according to your video you posted)? So you buy dogs to be a tool to be used, not as a family member? This sounds oddly like pitbull "thug" owners. I think we have very different ethical and idealogical view points here on this topic.


yeah  ::)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzhund

I'm hoping my dog will match both his national champion grandfather and great grandfather, but he's a big goofball so we'll see how he does. And while my dog is an absolute sweetheart I like knowing that he wouldn't just bark, piss on the floor or roll on his back if a Hebrew breaks into our house.

going on your other posts I can only imagine your feelings on shock collars or prongs in training.  
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 05, 2015, 07:01:42 PM

obvious white trash, that dog needs therapy ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 14, 2015, 07:04:28 AM
If a dog or  a human attacked me  my staffie would run and hide, worst bodyguard ever
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 14, 2015, 07:26:54 AM
Ok, are u in any of above mentioned professions? Do you work with dogs to hunt bad guys or rescue people?

So I made no points you agree with in my post?

So u just want a dog that bites good (according to your video you posted)? So you buy dogs to be a tool to be used, not as a family member? This sounds oddly like pitbull "thug" owners. I think we have very different ethical and idealogical view points here on this topic.
Most dog breeds were bred to be used as a tool. Dog breeds like terriers were used as ratters, or getting badgers out. Dogs like retrievers were used to retrieve waterfowl or other animals that were shot. Some dogs were bred to be herders, or watchdogs. It really is only until recently---maybe the 20th century, that dogs were seen as JUST pets and family members. That they were purchased to have as nothing more than companionship. Of course this has ways happened, but it has only been recent where this is the sole motivation.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: funk51 on March 14, 2015, 08:48:55 AM
fuck yeah my puppy is fearless he doesn't give a fuck, like a honeybadger

but he won't learn nothing  ;D
when my husky was a puppy i taught her tons of stuff she learned how to sit, run and jump on objects ,go back in her cage and more. she learned to sit on command  in less than five minutes. but as she got older she only listens when she wants to. i can yell for her to come but she'll ignore me till i flash a dog treat. by the way huskies were responsible for 6 percent of the deaths by dog in the usa. mine is 8 years old and never sick a day in her life, she contracted Lyme disease but the vet said she recycled her blood and it's gone now.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on March 14, 2015, 09:10:33 AM
Only good pit is a dead pit!
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2015, 09:15:57 AM
Only good pit is a dead pit!
Settle down, LittleJihad.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on March 14, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Settle down, LittleJihad.

We you get bitten don't say I didn't warn you.  ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2015, 09:42:34 AM
We you get bitten don't say I didn't warn you.  ::)
More likely to be robbed by one of your "bruthas". ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Mawse on March 14, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Only good brew is a dead brew!

See how silly that sounds?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: LittleJ on March 14, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
I love hebrew cock.

Tmi bro
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: HowDog on March 14, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
obvious white trash, that dog needs therapy ::)

I have had my pit for 9 years and she never snapped at me or hurt anybody.  The dog on the video is fucked up. This dog needs to be put down, plain and simple.  It has a defect.  Pits by nature want to love on humans. My pit will not stop licking people, babies etc. i give her tons of love, discipline, exercise (4 mile runs at least 4x week).   I wonder if this dog has been abused. A fearful dog is the worse. 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 14, 2015, 04:49:55 PM
I have had my pit for 9 years and she never snapped at me or hurt anybody.  The dog on the video is fucked up. This dog needs to be put down, plain and simple.  It has a defect.  Pits by nature want to love on humans. My pit will not stop licking people, babies etc. i give her tons of love, discipline, exercise (4 mile runs at least 4x week).   I wonder if this dog has been abused. A fearful dog is the worse. 

You let your pit lick babies? Are they your babies or others?
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 14, 2015, 04:57:22 PM
obvious white trash, that dog needs therapy ::)
1. Dog saw others "assaulting" grandma and wanting to do the same?

2.Dog didn't like grandma and was looking for time when she was vulnerable?
3. Both?
4. Dog is just effed up.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: HowDog on March 14, 2015, 05:12:38 PM
You let your pit lick babies? Are they your babies or others?
Both. She loves the salt on babies feet. My dog is very loving.  Again it is all monitored. I would never leave any dog alone with a baby or child.  Plus remember my dog is highly trained. 
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 05:33:29 PM
The video that probably started the whole pitbull paranoia/media frenzy.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: thegamechanger on March 16, 2015, 05:47:05 PM
pitbulls are known to be great dogs owned by well educated people with class.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: bradistani on March 16, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
The video that probably started the whole pitbull paranoia/media frenzy.


that rancid hag should've got a lot more than six months. well, with any luck she's dead now :D
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Bevo on March 16, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
pitbulls are known to be great dogs owned by well educated people with class.


Sadly people with class and educated don't usually get these breeds of dogs

Like I said they are usually owned by black thugs, mexican cholos, or white trailer park trash

The image is cause it makes these owners look tough and badass  ::)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: spiro on March 16, 2015, 06:12:34 PM

Sadly people with class and educated don't usually get these breeds of dogs

Like I said they are usually owned by black thugs, mexican cholos, or white trailer park trash

The image is cause it makes these owners look tough and badass  ::)

They have become popular with all kinds of people now. There has been a big awareness campaign about them. Owners feel they are part of special cause. People love that.

My dad got them because he enjoys  capable athletic dogs. He has owned Shepards boxers American bullies and pit bulls. They only get pits and pit mixes now. They have one now who is 50 pit 50 American bully. According to my parents they are the gentlest and most affectionate.

My dad runs five miles a day and bike rides. He loves the companionship of a capable dog. His dad was a Shepard back in the day. They used real tough dogs to keep wolves away. My dad is far from any of those things you listed.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/or48zq.jpg)

This dog is something else not a mean bone in his body.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2e30ksi.jpg)
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: spiro on March 16, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/vmugw3.jpg)

This was my mom's favorite they use too take naps together until sunny past from cancer.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ikbb76.jpg)

These dogs are something else. Amazing companions.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 16, 2015, 06:23:32 PM

Sadly people with class and educated don't usually get these breeds of dogs

Like I said they are usually owned by black thugs, mexican cholos, or white trailer park trash

The image is cause it makes these owners look tough and badass  ::)

. Our pound is full of unwanted pits. Many people including myself (well off people successful in life) save them by adopting them. They are usually awesome dogs
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
that rancid hag should've got a lot more than six months. well, with any luck she's dead now :D
She apparently sicced the dog on her landlord and his kid. And then on the animal control officer. And then she doesn't want to go to jail. And she didn't do anything to curbed the dog's actions.

I remember that they listed the woman's wounds. I believe she had to have reconstructive surgery on one of her breasts, and of course her hands.

Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: spiro on March 16, 2015, 06:27:17 PM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/znafwg.jpg)

This was my buddy. My parents said he would wait by my door in the morning for me to get up. He would sneak in my room and hop in my bed in the middle of the night. I remember a girl scout came over he got on his belly and crawled over to her to lick her face.
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 16, 2015, 09:44:02 PM
The video that probably started the whole pitbull paranoia/media frenzy.


this fat bitch should be fed to wolves

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Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: FireBlade on March 16, 2015, 10:24:02 PM
American Bully big baby...
Title: Re: Are pitbulls the most dangerous breed?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 16, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
I have an awesome story about my dog but would out myself uf i told you guts about it she is a star where i live  8)

potato and kwon can vouch for it