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Title: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 09, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Man it sucks being off, especially when on TRT. Like whats really keeping u from loading 2cc instead of 1cc, cuz you gotta pin weekly anyway. Hate this shit
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 09, 2014, 07:11:28 PM
Man it sucks being off, especially when on TRT. Like whats really keeping u from loading 2cc instead of 1cc, cuz you gotta pin weekly anyway. Hate this shit

im in same boat man,i ran out of juice and its been 4 weeks now and cant do my TRT,i cant even get a boner and have no sex drive,it sucks ass.ill b getting something this week though and b back on
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 07:37:47 PM
im in same boat man,i ran out of juice and its been 4 weeks now and cant do my TRT,i cant even get a boner and have no sex drive,it sucks ass.ill b getting something this week though and b back on

You didn't know you where going to run out and started tapering down? I was also off for about a month got back on 3 weeks ago. I start out with test prop every day with 1/2 a cc of test e every 2 day by the third week I drop the prop and boom blood level hold steady. Just I nice way to get back on and you can start getting your blood levels up faster
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 09, 2014, 07:41:52 PM
just finished a short cruise as well. Lost fullness, strength, drive, hornyness and less lean. Had it down to 200mg prop/week but just was losing motivation. So fuck it, added enanthate to just free myelf of all the pins and a nice 30ish mg dbal per day, feel so much better after a mere week not even...
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 09, 2014, 07:47:54 PM
If you're cruisin, you're losin
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
just finished a short cruise as well. Lost fullness, strength, drive, hornyness and less lean. Had it down to 200mg prop/week but just was losing motivation. So fuck it, added enanthate to just free myelf of all the pins and a nice 30ish mg dbal per day, feel so much better after a mere week not even...

I was at 350mg prop a week. Every day injections I would do eod but the pain was so fucking bad. I'm so much happier to be back on test e. With 50mg Abombs
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 09, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
I was at 350mg prop a week. Every day injections I would do eod but the pain was so fucking bad. I'm so much happier to be back on test e. With 50mg Abombs

I was on prop on purpose to be able to do short cruises here and there but the hell with it. I doubt I'll ever drop under 500mg again, if I do, not for long. A bombs are nice but destroy my stomach so bad! But enjoy them bad boys!
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 09, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
If you're cruisin, you're losin

yup.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Dr.J on December 09, 2014, 10:20:38 PM
You also get so emotional when test levels plummet !! Yuck....
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Competitor 9 on December 09, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
You also get so emotional when test levels plummet !! Yuck....

Like a 16 year old girl, no sex drive, depressed, fell like crying. Sounds like my typical Saturday night
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Pneumothorax on December 09, 2014, 11:08:28 PM
Man it sucks being off, especially when on TRT. Like whats really keeping u from loading 2cc instead of 1cc, cuz you gotta pin weekly anyway. Hate this shit

Are you at least still going to the gym?  Don't tell me your some slack jawed homo who can't even workout unless your on.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Dr.J on December 09, 2014, 11:54:54 PM
Like a 16 year old girl, no sex drive, depressed, fell like crying. Sounds like my typical Saturday night

Yup
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: DanM on December 10, 2014, 12:51:51 AM
Must really suck to be dependent on artificial hormones for your strength/size/emotional well being, suppose that's the down side of taking the easy way out, karma in a sense.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2014, 01:00:27 AM
Man it sucks being off, especially when on TRT. Like whats really keeping u from loading 2cc instead of 1cc, cuz you gotta pin weekly anyway. Hate this shit

I keep it low because I hate feeling bloated. I'm good with 1/2 to 1 but I've been off for almost 11/2 months and my joints and motivation are fu.cked.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 10, 2014, 03:47:53 AM
Are you at least still going to the gym?  Don't tell me your some slack jawed homo who can't even workout unless your on.

Nope i still lift, 3 x a week full body routine each time i go.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: BayGBM on December 10, 2014, 03:50:19 AM
Man it sucks being off, especially when on TRT. Like whats really keeping u from loading 2cc instead of 1cc, cuz you gotta pin weekly anyway. Hate this shit

im in same boat man,i ran out of juice and its been 4 weeks now and cant do my TRT,i cant even get a boner and have no sex drive,it sucks ass.ill b getting something this week though and b back on

Wimps! >:(
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: heenok on December 10, 2014, 04:28:03 AM
Im down from 500mg test/500mg mast/50mg anavar to 250mg of test E weekly.
My libido is MUCH better, I sleep better, feel more healthy overall.

Im also progressing in the gym, getting bigger. For info i was cutting while blasting, that could explain why i had low libido.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 04:33:01 AM
i have to play with my cock for 5 minutes or so just to get a boner,my sex drive is really fucked also.im moody as hell also and feel like jumping off a bridge,the jumping off a bridge part is normal for me though and has nothing to do with being off the juice.my buddies hooking me up this week so ill be ok,plus im going to COLOMBIA next week and ill b visiting some pharmacies,ill be there 2 weeks or so
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 10, 2014, 04:34:38 AM
Must really suck to be dependent on artificial hormones for your strength/size/emotional well being, suppose that's the down side of taking the easy way out, karma in a sense.

x2 not to bright
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Julio Ceasar on December 10, 2014, 04:46:19 AM
4 weeka off is not off, u still got high levels of test in your body haha. Give it one year and u will realise what you tought is the result from hard training, dedication and what the pills and needels gave u haha. Just to get a reality check.

I want all roids loosers to line up on their knees infront of me an praise me! Im your Lord!







Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 10, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
I've been cruising on 300of test prop for three months, down to 100/wk this month and probably will take a month completely off. Ive already adjusted to looking smaller, less pump, but otherwise everything is about the same, weight stayed the same, strength almost the same, overall I feel pretty damn good, just in another way of "good". I'm pretty confident I could go off for whatever time and just keep on training, as training has always been a pleasure for me.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 10, 2014, 04:57:33 AM
4 weeka off is not off, u still got high levels of test in your body haha. Give it one year and u will realise what you tought is the result from hard training, dedication and what the pills and needels gave u haha. Just to get a reality check.

I want all roids loosers to line up on their knees infront of me an praise me! Im your Lord!









I haven't juiced since 04, and was just about as strong a few years ago as I was when juicing. I don't lift heavy anymore so there's no way of knowing without picking up intensity, but I'm sure I could be right back to benching 365ish within two months, clean.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 10, 2014, 06:36:37 AM
Must really suck to be dependent on artificial hormones for your strength/size/emotional well being, suppose that's the down side of taking the easy way out, karma in a sense.

Beats being a dumb fuck like you, now piss off. And I look awesome, so fuck you, I win.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 10, 2014, 06:43:21 AM
I've been cruising on 300of test prop for three months, down to 100/wk this month and probably will take a month completely off. Ive already adjusted to looking smaller, less pump, but otherwise everything is about the same, weight stayed the same, strength almost the same, overall I feel pretty damn good, just in another way of "good". I'm pretty confident I could go off for whatever time and just keep on training, as training has always been a pleasure for me.

Id like to try going completely off at point like this..
Do you plan using clomid or anything or just cold turkey?
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: _aj_ on December 10, 2014, 06:52:22 AM
Id like to try going completely off at point like this..
Do you plan using clomid or anything or just cold turkey?

At least hand-wave a PCT of some sort. If not HCG (when I am done with gear, I want to be done with needles) than Nolva and (maybe) Clomid.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gmflex on December 10, 2014, 06:58:20 AM
Wimps! >:(





 ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 10, 2014, 07:04:06 AM
You guys don't even realize you sound like a bunch of junkies. Instead of the heroin fix you need a steroid syringe fix. If ever you guys have to go off because of something like an enlarged prostate, heart or other problem you will be hating life when your body looks soft and fat.  

Don't lie to yourself or others. You know no matter what you do in the gym that in one year clean you will look like absolute crap.

I don't understand why you can't be satisfied with a physique that comes from lifting and doing cardio clean. Are you really that disturbed and insecure that you need praise from others on what an amazing physique you have? I bet all of you deny use when a non lifter asks because that would take away the praise they give you and would give it rightly to the drug.

Steroids without a doubt give a feeling of well being. It makes you feel confident, aggressive, and it is an antidepressant. When you completely stop using and I don't mean just 3-4 weeks you'll notice feeling depressed, nervous and slightly timid.  You're body's own source of test is shut down and now your body is very adept at aromatase converting what little test you have into estrogen. I can hear the drug addicts self proclaimed doctors of pharmacology saying I will just use an anti estrogen and LH pins.  Just madness.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Julio Ceasar on December 10, 2014, 07:07:55 AM
I've been cruising on 300of test prop for three months, down to 100/wk this month and probably will take a month completely off. Ive already adjusted to looking smaller, less pump, but otherwise everything is about the same, weight stayed the same, strength almost the same, overall I feel pretty damn good, just in another way of "good". I'm pretty confident I could go off for whatever time and just keep on training, as training has always been a pleasure for me.

Dont talk so much. Prove it! Go totally off. NO DRUGS IN YOUR BODY for 1 year and tell me how pleasure u feel about your workouts! Please do!
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Croatch on December 10, 2014, 07:08:00 AM
Beats being a dumb fuck like you, now piss off. And I look awesome, so fuck you, I win.
Some can still look great with no drugs.  Ponder this one.

Juicers on a whole are a joke.  It's as if most just watched Pumping Iron and thought by joining Golds and juicing, they too were going to follow in Arnold's footsteps.  Reality is, most don't have the genetics to warrant the drugs and few even train that hard.  Many grunt and make dumb faces like Boston Lloyd, but it's more in their mind that their busting their ass.

Today all you see are mind muscle connection pussies lifting no weight and relying on all drugs.  It's laughable.
Then you have all the HRT clowns who never achieved squat in a gym, but now are grandpa jacked and look ridiculous.  Nothing worse than a 55 year old walking around in a string tank top working on his tan.

Current gyms are in a sad state.  The modern day pussy syndrome. ;)
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 07:11:59 AM
You guys don't even realize you sound like a bunch of junkies. Instead of the heroin fix you need a steroid syringe fix. If ever you guys have to go off because of something like an enlarged prostate, heart or other problem you will be hating life when your body looks soft and fat.  

Don't lie to yourself or others. You know no matter what you do in the gym that in one year clean you will look like absolute crap.

I don't understand why you can't be satisfied with a physique that comes from lifting and doing cardio clean. Are you really that disturbed and insecure that you need praise from others on what an amazing physique you have? I bet all of you deny use when a non lifter asks because that would take away the praise they give you and would give it rightly to the drug.

Steroids without a doubt give a feeling of well being. It makes you feel confident, aggressive, and it is an antidepressant. When you completely stop using and I don't mean just 3-4 weeks you'll notice feeling depressed, nervous and slightly timid.  You're body's own source of test is shut down and now your body is very adept at aromatase converting what little test you have into estrogen. I can hear the drug addicts self proclaimed doctors of pharmacology saying I will just use an anti estrogen and LH pins.  Just madness.

u know what u natural guys sound like?THE WAY U JUST SAID THAT THING ABOUT IF A PERSON EVER HAD TO GO OFF TRT THEY WOULD HATE LIFE WHEN THEY GOT SOFT AND FAT ???THATS THE REASON IM DOING TRT SO I DONT HAVE TO BE SOFT AND FAT,U SOUND LIKE U GOT SOME EXPERIANCE WITH THAT,PLEASE SHARE IF U DO. im gonna be 50 in a few months and got ZERO HEALTH PROBLEMS,and when is it wrong to do something a doctor tells u to do? my test levels where low and my DOCTOR told me to use testosterone,i told him about the times i did some cycles in my younger years but he even said i didnt stay on long enough for my test levels to be permanantly shut down, i did my 12 week cycles and stayed off sometimes 3 yrs or more,i remember in the mid 90,s i went more than 5 yrs using nothing. im not some 17 yr old kid using testosterone thinking im gonna become like arnold,if the doctor told u to take blood pressure meds or some other medicine for a condition u had it would be alright i guess wouldnt it? go  think about some more negative shit to say about people who are on TRT,i bet i looked better at 15 than most of you natural guys always moaning about the TRT dudes and i was NATURAL. to be honest id rather live with some gusto for life and feel good and die at 75 than feel like shit and BE FAT AND SOFT and live to 85-90,WHO WANTS TO LIVE FEELING LIKE SHIT?QUALITY OVER QUANTITY ANYDAY
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 10, 2014, 07:13:58 AM
Some can still look great with no drugs.  Ponder this one.

Juicers on a whole are a joke.  It's as if most just watched Pumping Iron and thought by joining Golds and juicing, they too were going to follow in Arnold's footsteps.  Reality is, most don't have the genetics to warrant the drugs and few even train that hard.  Many grunt and make dumb faces like Boston Lloyd, but it's more in their mind that their busting their ass.

Today all you see are mind muscle connection pussies lifting no weight and relying on all drugs.  It's laughable.
Then you have all the HRT clowns who never achieved squat in a gym, but now are grandpa jacked and look ridiculous.  Nothing worse than a 55 year old walking around in a string tank top working on his tan.

Current gyms are in a sad state.  The modern day pussy syndrome. ;)




I was very good before touching gear as I had way over a DECADE of training in me. Without gear, I would be about 15-20lbs less but still the same shape, just smaller and was always respected by the juicers as they knew what I could do.

DO NOT put in in the category of them fucktards, you don't owe me anything, but I took my time going into this...




Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on December 10, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
You guys don't even realize you sound like a bunch of junkies. Instead of the heroin fix you need a steroid syringe fix. If ever you guys have to go off because of something like an enlarged prostate, heart or other problem you will be hating life when your body looks soft and fat.  

Don't lie to yourself or others. You know no matter what you do in the gym that in one year clean you will look like absolute crap.

I don't understand why you can't be satisfied with a physique that comes from lifting and doing cardio clean. Are you really that disturbed and insecure that you need praise from others on what an amazing physique you have? I bet all of you deny use when a non lifter asks because that would take away the praise they give you and would give it rightly to the drug.

Steroids without a doubt give a feeling of well being. It makes you feel confident, aggressive, and it is an antidepressant. When you completely stop using and I don't mean just 3-4 weeks you'll notice feeling depressed, nervous and slightly timid.  You're body's own source of test is shut down and now your body is very adept at aromatase converting what little test you have into estrogen. I can hear the drug addicts self proclaimed doctors of pharmacology saying I will just use an anti estrogen and LH pins.  Just madness.
i stopped cold turkey for 6 yearsfrom steroids and training  and didnt feel bad at all, ni problems with libido or depression or everything..didnt even care that i was alot smaller and out of shape
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 07:35:03 AM
Some can still look great with no drugs.  Ponder this one.

Juicers on a whole are a joke.  It's as if most just watched Pumping Iron and thought by joining Golds and juicing, they too were going to follow in Arnold's footsteps.  Reality is, most don't have the genetics to warrant the drugs and few even train that hard.  Many grunt and make dumb faces like Boston Lloyd, but it's more in their mind that their busting their ass.

Today all you see are mind muscle connection pussies lifting no weight and relying on all drugs.  It's laughable.
Then you have all the HRT clowns who never achieved squat in a gym, but now are grandpa jacked and look ridiculous.  Nothing worse than a 55 year old walking around in a string tank top working on his tan.

Current gyms are in a sad state.  The modern day pussy syndrome. ;)

i was training since i was 12 yrs old and never touched a steroid till i was 19 or so,that was some dbol for 6 weeks.i already built a base and was pretty decent for a 15 yr old kid, never got into a serious cycle till 1998,before that id dip and dab but always stopped out after 6 -8 weeks or so cause i was scared of the side effects. i was mostly lifting for my wrestling and my MMA to help me get stronger and in better shape,i know i trained hard and dont need to prove it to anyone,especially on these boards.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: njflex on December 10, 2014, 08:37:16 AM
i was training since i was 12 yrs old and never touched a steroid till i was 19 or so,that was some dbol for 6 weeks.i already built a base and was pretty decent for a 15 yr old kid, never got into a serious cycle till 1998,before that id dip and dab but always stopped out after 6 -8 weeks or so cause i was scared of the side effects. i was mostly lifting for my wrestling and my MMA to help me get stronger and in better shape,i know i trained hard and dont need to prove it to anyone,especially on these boards.
GRACIE  WE ARE FROM SAME AREA/ERA ,,ONCE YOU GOT INTO HARDCORE GYM ,THE GUYS THEN COPS/FIREMAN/BBERS ALL PAL AROUND SAME CIRCLE,THEY ALL SAID 'TEST IS BEST'ALL WERE HUGE THEN 80'S/90'S HUGE BIG ARMS/ABS WERE NOT EVEN MENTION UNTIL SHOW TIME,BIG CHESTS..LOVING LIFE IN THERE 20/30'S...ERA IS GONE..
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 08:44:06 AM
GRACIE  WE ARE FROM SAME AREA/ERA ,,ONCE YOU GOT INTO HARDCORE GYM ,THE GUYS THEN COPS/FIREMAN/BBERS ALL PAL AROUND SAME CIRCLE,THEY ALL SAID 'TEST IS BEST'ALL WERE HUGE THEN 80'S/90'S HUGE BIG ARMS/ABS WERE NOT EVEN MENTION UNTIL SHOW TIME,BIG CHESTS..LOVING LIFE IN THERE 20/30'S...ERA IS GONE..

yea man that was a great time, i was this young 16 yr old kid who was working out around pro's,top nationals guys,jersey state winners ect,it was awesome time. the test was clean back then and easy to get also,it was all over the gym ;)
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: njflex on December 10, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
yea man that was a great time, i was this young 16 yr old kid who was working out around pro's,top nationals guys,jersey state winners ect,it was awesome time. the test was clean back then and easy to get also,it was all over the gym ;)
THERE was no supplements to buy at counter 'if there was a counter ,a box of chalky protein bars,u nod they pulled bottle from counter ,dipped into gym bag,,done..
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 10, 2014, 09:49:04 AM
You guys don't even realize you sound like a bunch of junkies. Instead of the heroin fix you need a steroid syringe fix. If ever you guys have to go off because of something like an enlarged prostate, heart or other problem you will be hating life when your body looks soft and fat.  

Don't lie to yourself or others. You know no matter what you do in the gym that in one year clean you will look like absolute crap.

I don't understand why you can't be satisfied with a physique that comes from lifting and doing cardio clean. Are you really that disturbed and insecure that you need praise from others on what an amazing physique you have? I bet all of you deny use when a non lifter asks because that would take away the praise they give you and would give it rightly to the drug.

Steroids without a doubt give a feeling of well being. It makes you feel confident, aggressive, and it is an antidepressant. When you completely stop using and I don't mean just 3-4 weeks you'll notice feeling depressed, nervous and slightly timid.  You're body's own source of test is shut down and now your body is very adept at aromatase converting what little test you have into estrogen. I can hear the drug addicts self proclaimed doctors of pharmacology saying I will just use an anti estrogen and LH pins.  Just madness.

some of this is true, but what about guys who are on TRT. I was 26 and my test level was 330. Thats no joke, and is low as fuck. my urologist diagnosed me with hypogonadism.
TRT has been fun because up until then, gains were sloppy and skinny fat. Now, I look like a man.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: SF1900 on December 10, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
I keep it low because I hate feeling bloated. I'm good with 1/2 to 1 but I've been off for almost 11/2 months and my joints and motivation are fu.cked.

That is what happens when you rely on "outside help." Once you're off, youre screwed.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: ritch on December 10, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
That is what happens when you rely on "outside help." Once you're off, youre screwed.

Being natty (small and weak=screwed to me) so I guess it's all about perceptions, huh???
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Tennisballz on December 10, 2014, 11:39:51 AM
Whats the point of being a dick and pointing fingers at guys who use or have used steroids?  As if them using steroids somehow affected your life in any way..  ???
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Drogon on December 10, 2014, 12:05:08 PM

I was very good before touching gear as I had way over a DECADE of training in me. Without gear, I would be about 15-20lbs less but still the same shape, just smaller and was always respected by the juicers as they knew what I could do.

DO NOT put in in the category of them fucktards, you don't owe me anything, but I took my time going into this...






That's like me. Started training hard when I was 17. Started juicing when I was 29. But been a consistant juicer since. (39 now) Albeit low doses. The shape I had was with me before I started juicing. But of course, it looks better now.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 01:55:28 PM
Whats the point of being a dick and pointing fingers at guys who use or have used steroids?  As if them using steroids somehow affected your life in any way..  ???

exactly man,i never start no threads on how natural guys pretty much never make any progress,or how it takes a natural guy 10yrs to make the progress of someone who did a nice 5 month cycle,personally i have no problem with guys being natural,a huge part of my life i stayed natural in between cycles,id go 5 yrs sometime training natural.only time i have a problem with it is when they HIJACK OUR THREAD and start talking their same old bullshit about this and that.i leave their threads alone and they should respect our threads also,their wouldnt be any of these stupid debates,honestly do they think they r telling me stuff i never heard before?do they think OK,ONCE I SAY THESE THINGS ALL THOSE GUYS R GOING TO FLUSH THEIR GEAR AND GO NATURAL AGAIN ??? honestly i just think they voice their frustration of never making any progress when they hit their late 30's and up out on our threads just to be able to vent at someone. i think a guy can make decent progress natural when they r younger,under 35 or so,but alot of us NEED TRT  TO BRING OUR TEST UP TO A NORMAL POINT,whats wrong with that?
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
That's like me. Started training hard when I was 17. Started juicing when I was 29. But been a consistant juicer since. (39 now) Albeit low doses. The shape I had was with me before I started juicing. But of course, it looks better now.

great post man, thats what im talking about.i was training since i was 11 or 12 and never touched a roid till i was 19 or so,at 15 i already had some decent muscle for a kid and by 18 i was benching 400lbs and had 17 and ahalf inch arms,the cycles here and there just helped me along. now im on TRT cause i need it,now cause i want it
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on December 10, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
Some can still look great with no drugs.  Ponder this one.

Juicers on a whole are a joke.  It's as if most just watched Pumping Iron and thought by joining Golds and juicing, they too were going to follow in Arnold's footsteps.  Reality is, most don't have the genetics to warrant the drugs and few even train that hard.  Many grunt and make dumb faces like Boston Lloyd, but it's more in their mind that their busting their ass.

Today all you see are mind muscle connection pussies lifting no weight and relying on all drugs.  It's laughable.
Then you have all the HRT clowns who never achieved squat in a gym, but now are grandpa jacked and look ridiculous.  Nothing worse than a 55 year old walking around in a string tank top working on his tan.

Current gyms are in a sad state.  The modern day pussy syndrome. ;)
sad but mostly true post
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 10, 2014, 02:00:35 PM
Id like to try going completely off at point like this..
Do you plan using clomid or anything or just cold turkey?

Cold turkey, I think I'll get back on after a month, to get in shape for the summer fun, so no ned for additional drugs.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 10, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
You guys don't even realize you sound like a bunch of junkies. Instead of the heroin fix you need a steroid syringe fix. If ever you guys have to go off because of something like an enlarged prostate, heart or other problem you will be hating life when your body looks soft and fat.  

Don't lie to yourself or others. You know no matter what you do in the gym that in one year clean you will look like absolute crap.

I don't understand why you can't be satisfied with a physique that comes from lifting and doing cardio clean. Are you really that disturbed and insecure that you need praise from others on what an amazing physique you have? I bet all of you deny use when a non lifter asks because that would take away the praise they give you and would give it rightly to the drug.

Steroids without a doubt give a feeling of well being. It makes you feel confident, aggressive, and it is an antidepressant. When you completey stop using and I don't mean just 3-4 weeks you'll notice feeling depressed, nervous and slightly timid.  You're body's own source of test is shut down and now your body is very adept at aromatase converting what little test you have into estrogen. I can hear the drug addicts self proclaimed doctors of pharmacology saying I will just use an anti estrogen and LH pins.  Just madness.

You're an old bitter fool.  The amount of pussy I've got just because of my body would make you cry in the pillow at night.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on December 10, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
exactly man,i never start no threads on how natural guys pretty much never make any progress,or how it takes a natural guy 10yrs to make the progress of someone who did a nice 5 month cycle,personally i have no problem with guys being natural,a huge part of my life i stayed natural in between cycles,id go 5 yrs sometime training natural.only time i have a problem with it is when they HIJACK OUR THREAD and start talking their same old bullshit about this and that.i leave their threads alone and they should respect our threads also,their wouldnt be any of these stupid debates,honestly do they think they r telling me stuff i never heard before?do they think OK,ONCE I SAY THESE THINGS ALL THOSE GUYS R GOING TO FLUSH THEIR GEAR AND GO NATURAL AGAIN ??? honestly i just think they voice their frustration of never making any progress when they hit their late 30's and up out on our threads just to be able to vent at someone. i think a guy can make decent progress natural when they r younger,under 35 or so,but alot of us NEED TRT  TO BRING OUR TEST UP TO A NORMAL POINT,whats wrong with that?
good post
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 10, 2014, 02:06:03 PM
Dont talk so much. Prove it! Go totally off. NO DRUGS IN YOUR BODY for 1 year and tell me how pleasure u feel about your workouts! Please do!

I've been training for 10 years before i tried drugs. would be no issue, I have other stuff going on for me, so I'd survive it. Tho I have no reason to do that. Most probably I won't ever go completely off  test after I turn 30. It will be healthier to be on, than off.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 10, 2014, 02:06:12 PM
 

You're an old bitter fool.  The amount of pussy I've got just because of my body would make you cry in the pillow at night.

 ;D
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Natural Man on December 10, 2014, 04:02:35 PM
sad state of affairs, men nowodays are pussies... manhood in a bottle , a pill or a needle.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: Dr.J on December 10, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
sad state of affairs, men nowodays are pussies... manhood in a bottle , a pill or a needle.

Urban dick posting up his two cents like an idiot.  Glad to see you stay the course of being a moron! !

 ::)
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: visualizeperfection on December 11, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
sad state of affairs, men nowodays are pussies... manhood in a bottle , a pill or a needle.

When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 11, 2014, 03:02:10 AM
sad state of affairs, men nowodays are pussies... manhood in a bottle , a pill or a needle.

what he really meant to say was, u men nowdays that use a pill or needles have alot more affairs and get all the pussy ;)
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 11, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
what he really meant to say was, u men nowdays that use a pill or needles have alot more affairs and get all the pussy ;)

To be precise - a male after 30yo actually starts to become less of a male (physiologically), regardless of how tough he is mentally. I guess it's quite understandable that not everyone wants to succumb to that process.
 And some may naturally lack testosterone from a get go. There are two ways - to accept it and continue the miserable existence or to correct the errors of nature.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: gracie bjj on December 11, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
To be precise - a male after 30yo actually starts to become less of a male (physiologically), regardless of how tough he is mentally. I guess it's quite understandable that not everyone wants to succumb to that process.
 And some may naturally lack testosterone from a get go. There are two ways - to accept it and continue the miserable existence or to correct the errors of nature.

exactly,my doctor even told me ill feel alot better with my testosterone levels at a higher(correct) dosage,like i always said, TRT has changed my life for the better,i wasnt going to be miserable and accept that shit of low test.
Title: Re: Off for 4 weeks, want back on
Post by: da_vinci on December 11, 2014, 07:02:48 AM
exactly,my doctor even told me ill feel alot better with my testosterone levels at a higher(correct) dosage,like i always said, TRT has changed my life for the better,i wasnt going to be miserable and accept that shit of low test.

No wonder. Test is a great exogenous substance to have in the body after 35-40, regardless of being a bb'er or not. If someone feel less of a "man" because of that, well probably there was no "man" to begin with.