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CNN has been continuously running the story about how the CIA conducted various torture methods after Sept 11, 2001 (to get info about impending attacks)
I'm having a difficult time trying to give a shit
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Well sometimes u have to step outside the law to fix things : )
Pretty hard to fight enemies who dosent follow the "rules" by following the rules...
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Somebody hijacks and flies commercial aircraft into your buildings.
But please treat them with respect and decency.
Ridiculous
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More torture please!
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CNN has been continuously running the story about how the CIA conducted various torture methods after Sept 11, 2001 (to get info about impending attacks)
I'm having a difficult time trying to give a shit
I think most don't honestly.
Just liberals/leftists screams the loudest as always and are allowed to get the most exposure in leftist media
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if it's cool now, then it was cool in WWII and further back. Torture didn't become "cool" or "acceptable" now.
In WWII, dudes were suicide bombing airplanes by the dozens. THAT is some shit worthy of torturing survivors. Looking further back, people were WAY more brutal in war hundreds of years ago... impaling people, rape/pillage, mass murder of tens of millions... a few dudes getting non-deadly waterboarding? Sheeit, 400 years ago, they'd be chopping off fingers and penises to get the intel they needed.
So IF torture is okay today because of "Unlawful" combatants, then it sure as shit was okay 400 years ago when rape/pillage/torture of entire villiages was cool. LOL @ anyone whining about Gitmo that isn't whining about the way we continent-fcked those indians living here before us.
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Tortured ::)
Did any toes meet hammer? Were fingers mailed to family members? Were ball sacks slapped while yelling nut check?
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Somebody hijacks and flies commercial aircraft into your buildings.
But please treat them with respect and decency.
Ridiculous
THIS
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I'm glad cnn changed to a different headline / story..
Got tired of the Ferguson bullshit story...
I hope the other stupid story goes away also.. where the big fat guy got chocked out by a cop
Fat slob should of listened to the cops...
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I'm glad cnn changed to a different headline / story..
Got tired of the Ferguson bullshit story...
I hope the other stupid story goes away also.. where the big fat guy got chocked out by a cop
Fat slob should of listened to the cops...
Hi cop
CNN has been continuously running the story about how the CIA conducted various torture methods after Sept 11, 2001 (to get info about impending attacks)
I'm having a difficult time trying to give a shit
What about terrorist who torture Americans? Are you okay with that?
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think it depends on the method of torture, there's a lot of posts here on getbig that could be defined as torture to read
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I actually that there was no relationship between torture and getting true information. In other words, when people are being tortured they will say anything to avoid being tortured.
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Hi cop
What about terrorist who torture Americans? Are you okay with that?
Not the same!
Terrorists kidnap Americans and saw their heads off...
CIA was using: sleep deprivation, slapping, water-boarding, and dragging naked guys down hallways
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You are missing the point... The country is going down the shitter under this jackass we have now, and this is all an attempt to bring back the "Bush Derangment Syndrome" that get the libtards to ignore the failures of thier hero.
How about investigating how Obama murdered an American citizen with a drone overseas with no trial, conviction, nothing. Granted he deserved it... But it's still the first time ever a president was judge, jury, and executioner and not a word was said. Can you imagine if Bush had done that?
Hypocrit losers.
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What about terrorist who torture Americans? Are you okay with that?
They aren't going to stop torturing Americans if we stop torturing terrorists. They torture anyone, civilian or military. Having said that, I have mixed feelings about torture. On one hand, I'm not bothered a bit by murderers being tortured. On the other hand, should the United States be torturing people? We are better than those lunatic idiots.
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I've concluded it's a necessary evil at this point.
I have a hard time debunking the ticking bomb theory.
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Hi cop
;D
No cop..
Just tired of listening to the same BS..
I'm black ..so it must be racism... so easy to pull the trigger and blame it on the color of the skin of the person.. when both guys had criminal records and failed to listen to the orders of the cop...
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Just make the fuckers watch the Kardashians. That would be torture enough.
I think the issue is they tortured a lot of people who had nothing to do with anything.
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Not the same!
Terrorists kidnap Americans and saw their heads off...
CIA was using: sleep deprivation, slapping, water-boarding, and dragging naked guys down hallways
Great point..
Plus idiots are still breathing >:(
Fuckers should be dead
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Just make the fuckers watch the Kardashians. That would be torture enough.
I think the issue is they tortured a lot of people who had nothing to do with anything.
Lmao ;D
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Just make the fuckers watch the Kardashians. That would be torture enough.
I think the issue is they tortured a lot of people who had nothing to do with anything.
Duh
People on this site are pretty fucking stupid if you didn't notice.
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Duh
People on this site are pretty fucking stupid if you didn't notice.
We see that whenever you post.
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Meh, no fucks were given.
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a continues loop of DLB Selfies will make any terrorist hang himself in his cell or spill the beans to make it stop
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There is no law, only force. There is no civilization, only force.
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Well sometimes u have to step outside the law to fix things : )
Pretty hard to fight enemies who dosent follow the "rules" by following the rules...
I don't get this mentality. If you beleive this then why care when Police overstep their boundaries? Why care when the SWAT team comes into your home with machine guns to bust you for ordering 4 vials of testosterone online? Why don't all cops just shoot first then answer questions later?
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I don't get this mentality. If you beleive this then why care when Police overstep their boundaries? Why care when the SWAT team comes into your home with machine guns to bust you for ordering 4 vials of testosterone online? Why don't all cops just shoot first then answer questions later?
Crime problem solved in less than 6 months if they could.
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Man, if it isn't the devil grabbing hold of this country...
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I don't get this mentality. If you beleive this then why care when Police overstep their boundaries? Why care when the SWAT team comes into your home with machine guns to bust you for ordering 4 vials of testosterone online? Why don't all cops just shoot first then answer questions later?
X2 People don't know what they're saying.
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Not the same!
Terrorists kidnap Americans and saw their heads off...
CIA was using: sleep deprivation, slapping, water-boarding, and dragging naked guys down hallways
Sounds like a regular Saturday night for tbombz.
Did the use the bunny suit method too?
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I don't get this mentality. If you beleive this then why care when Police overstep their boundaries? Why care when the SWAT team comes into your home with machine guns to bust you for ordering 4 vials of testosterone online? Why don't all cops just shoot first then answer questions later?
Well cops are dealing with your average citizens not foreign terrorists planning mass killings.
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a simple state implanted device would keep most unruly citizens well under control
what do ya say fellas?
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Not the same!
Terrorists kidnap Americans and saw their heads off...
CIA was using: sleep deprivation, slapping, water-boarding, and dragging naked guys down hallways
Turn the Muslim terrorists over to the Mexican cartels and let them handle them.
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a simple state implanted device would keep most unruly citizens well under control
what do ya say fellas?
those lawbreaking liberals might not want something liek this. But the conservatives who understand - if you try to run from a cop, yes, you deserve a bullet - they'll surely support embedding a control chip in people.
if you're not going to fight with cops, why would it bother anyone?
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Fuck `em !!
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Fuck `em !!
Doggy or missionary?
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Doggy or missionary?
Depends on what said terrorist prefers.......but hopefully anal with a Louisville slugger...........lube is optional! :D
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those lawbreaking liberals might not want something liek this. But the conservatives who understand - if you try to run from a cop, yes, you deserve a bullet - they'll surely support embedding a control chip in people.
if you're not going to fight with cops, why would it bother anyone?
yes you're right the "hippies" may object to this but they just think wrong anyway!
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I have zero problem with torturing these rug-riders.
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What getbigger could we nominate to help the CIA with these torture skills?
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if it's cool now, then it was cool in WWII and further back. Torture didn't become "cool" or "acceptable" now.
In WWII, dudes were suicide bombing airplanes by the dozens. THAT is some shit worthy of torturing survivors. Looking further back, people were WAY more brutal in war hundreds of years ago... impaling people, rape/pillage, mass murder of tens of millions... a few dudes getting non-deadly waterboarding? Sheeit, 400 years ago, they'd be chopping off fingers and penises to get the intel they needed.
So IF torture is okay today because of "Unlawful" combatants, then it sure as shit was okay 400 years ago when rape/pillage/torture of entire villiages was cool. LOL @ anyone whining about Gitmo that isn't whining about the way we continent-fcked those indians living here before us.
You must be feeling really confused with all your political mental flip flopping?
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After World War II we tried, convicted, and executed Japanese solders for waterboarding prisoners. We executed the people performing the waterboarding. We executed the people who ordered the waterboarding.
and quoting from elsewhere on the web:
The UN Convention on Torture, which Ronald Reagan signed and championed, is very clear and its definition of what torture is obviously broad and inclusive.
Article 1.
1. For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
2. This article is without prejudice to any international instrument or national legislation which does or may contain provisions of wider application.
Article 2.
1. Each State Party shall take effective legislative, administrative, judicial or other measures to prevent acts of torture in any territory under its jurisdiction.
2. No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.
3. An order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture.
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They cut off heads, plant bombs, and fly planes into buildings and dopes here are concerned about their American rights? The same hypocrites have no problems when Obama authorizes drones to bomb buildings that might house terrorists but kill others in collateral damage.
The only thing these savages respect is force. Nothing else. When we fought Germany we bombed Dresden to the ground killing 100K in one night. Man, woman and child. This got the Nazi's attention. When Japan said they will all die for their God the Emperor we almost succeeded in killing every one in two cities with atom bombs. This made the Japanese reconsider and saved countless American lives.
If you fight a war with civility with these Muslim savages they will laugh at you. When this recent terrorist stuff started in the 70's and early 80's Iran had no fear when they held all those American hostages when Carter was in office. When Reagan got elected they shook in their dirty sandals and released them.
With every testing of our resolve the terrorists got a little braver though seeing there was no real retaliation. In the beginning they kicked the sleeping giant then saw little was done except words. That encourage Iraq to build the largest military in the Middle East. Then to develop chemical weapons that they used successfully against the Kurds. Don't think when Bush destroyed their army that it didn't go unnoticed in other countries in the middle east.
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I think it's great. If anything we aren't torturing these phaggots enough.
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You guys empowering these unknown people, to do unknown things, for unknown reasons, will live to regret it.
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To the people who doesn't mind torture being accepted as a means of extracting information in a developed Western country, you do realise that all it takes is some votes in the congress for this to be applied to the very people the government has sworn to protect?
The same goes for trying to use veto to change the law so that "terrorists" aren't given the chance of standing trial, instead having to face a military court.
Again, all it takes is some votes in the congress and all of a sudden all this is then applied to it's own citizens. This is grooming for a police state. Suddenly Sony/Universal lobbyists will make sure that these interrogation principles becomes mandatory for making file sharers confess etc. The uses are endless whence the boundary of civilised behaviour is removed.
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I hate Bushy and Chinee
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CNN has been continuously running the story about how the CIA conducted various torture methods after Sept 11, 2001 (to get info about impending attacks)
I'm having a difficult time trying to give a shit
That's because you're something a bit less than human. No worries, though.
Get that fucking cross off your profile. Jesus died for human bitches, not beasts.
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You guys empowering these unknown people, to do unknown things, for unknown reasons, will live to regret it.
we cannot be free unless we are safe from threats.
weather or not those threats exist is irrelevant bro!
team freedom approved
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The same hypocrites have no problems when Obama authorizes drones to bomb buildings that might house terrorists but kill others in collateral damage.
No, many of us on the left are very much opposed to Obama's use of drones. 1) there is no due process and 2) too many innocent lives have been taken.
But you want to talk about hypocrites. We signed a treaty. It is the law of the land. Those that committed torture broke that law. If you've ever said or thought that Eric Gardner or Michael Brown shouldn't have been breaking the law, then you're a hypocrite.
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we cannot be free unless we are safe from threats.
weather or not those threats exist is irrelevant bro!
team freedom approved
what happens if those in power think you're the threat?
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what happens if those in power think you're the threat?
well now that I think about it yes it does matter if the threat is real or not. The preceding comment didn't make any sense.
serious harm will befall those who are threats to power as history clearly demonstrates. You don't get rewarded for this.
The FBI under Hoover devoted a great deal of attention to Martin Luther King, whom Hoover considered a threat to national security :o
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we cannot be free unless we are safe from threats.
weather or not those threats exist is irrelevant bro!
team freedom approved
Freedom is not the absence of fear or danger.
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Freedom is not the absence of fear or danger.
could it be a false dichotomy?
yes these issues need to be delaminated I agree
identify the real threats and deal with them before shredding all of your freedoms?
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Gayer than rectal rehydration
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could it be a false dichotomy?
yes these issues need to be delaminated I agree
identify the real threats and deal with them before shredding all of your freedoms?
Agreed
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There is no law, only force. There is no civilization, only force.
there is no such thing as "humans", only animals.
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That's because you're something a bit less than human. No worries, though.
Get that fucking cross off your profile. Jesus died for human bitches, not beasts.
tell that to the terrorists who absolutely hate those that follow Christ... they devote their lives to killing Americans and Jews. If in the wake of Sept 11, 2001 the CIA felt that they might obtain life saving info from murderers by slapping them....so be it.
PS: a terrorist cut off your mother's head.... or your dad died from a terrorist's bomb; would you still be against water-boarding?
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tell that to the terrorists who absolutely hate those that follow Christ... they devote their lives to killing Americans and Jews. If in the wake of Sept 11, 2001 the CIA felt that they might obtain life saving info from murderers by slapping them....so be it.
PS: a terrorist cut off your mother's head.... or your dad died from a terrorist's bomb; would you still be against water-boarding?
does jesus support water boarding now
???
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does jesus support water boarding now
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Probably not.
But it may have been useful in saving some lives.
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Probably not.
But it may have been useful in saving some lives.
right well just keep in mind the guys who are saying this...you know what they say next?
"we don't torture people" so yet again it doesn't stand up to much scrutiny...
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Either torture was okay 2000 years ago and it's okay now.
OR
It was wrong 2000 years ago, and it's still wrong today.
Look at history and see rape, pillage, torture, mass genocide of entire cities and nations - and then complain about today's bad guys cause they won't wear uniforms or hide in certain structures lol.
Maybe torture is part of war - and it's totally cool. I mean, you can blow someone up with TNT or 200 bullets, but you can't waterboard them or break a finger? lol. Just looking for consistency here. it was right 2000 years ago, and right now, or it was wrong both times. Today's bad guys are nowhere near as bad as history's bad guys.
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You are missing the point... The country is going down the shitter under this jackass we have now, and this is all an attempt to bring back the "Bush Derangment Syndrome" that get the libtards to ignore the failures of thier hero.
How about investigating how Obama murdered an American citizen with a drone overseas with no trial, conviction, nothing. Granted he deserved it... But it's still the first time ever a president was judge, jury, and executioner and not a word was said. Can you imagine if Bush had done that?
Hypocrit losers.
Well said and on top of it they conducted no interviews of those overseeing the "torture" nor did they see if any useful information was garnered. It's simply another redirect from the left as they try to push through another budget full of pork and deflect from the emperor's recent "orders". When questioned about the report even the emperor in chief equivocated.
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As a brown guy who's not Middle Eastern but has been mistaken for one, I care about this. I don't want to be arrested because of some ignorant white Xenophobes and tortured. It also matters because there were lies and tons of international laws broken.
As for torturing terrorists, if it's confirmed then have at it. But the criminal justice system is fucked and people get away with stupid shit despite being guilty, whereas others get arrested despite being innocent. If the courts weren't so politically correct and complacent then I would be all for it.
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No, many of us on the left are very much opposed to Obama's use of drones. 1) there is no due process and 2) too many innocent lives have been taken.
But you want to talk about hypocrites. We signed a treaty. It is the law of the land. Those that committed torture broke that law. If you've ever said or thought that Eric Gardner or Michael Brown shouldn't have been breaking the law, then you're a hypocrite.
Black lives dont matter!
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Somebody hijacks and flies commercial aircraft into your buildings.
But please treat them with respect and decency.
Ridiculous
I thought the hijackers were dead .
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This is why the public shouldn't know everything. Imagine if the governments actions were on open book? Lol
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If torture is about getting information, then why conduct it? From what Ive read, torture is not the best way to get accurate information.
Torture is not wrong, it just doesn't work, says former interrogator
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8833108/Torture-is-not-wrong-it-just-doesnt-work-says-former-interrogator.html
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I'm sure torture was used by ALL SIDES in vietnam, WWII, WW1, and every war before that.
We just didn't have "embedded" reporters, google satellite view, idiots tweeting in the middle of gun battles, etc.
In the past, we'd all live our lives and never know about GITMO. There would be no cell camera pics of abu ghirab prisoner abuse. We'd never hear about waterboarding or any of this, it would just happen, and it'd be WAY more brutal, given the lack of oversight.
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As a brown guy who's not Middle Eastern but has been mistaken for one, I care about this. I don't want to be arrested because of some ignorant white Xenophobes and tortured. It also matters because there were lies and tons of international laws broken.
I think you'll be ok brah unless you're planning on visiting a wedding at a terrorist training camp in Yemen.
They don't just pick up random brown people at the mall and pull their fingernails out
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This is why the public shouldn't know everything. Imagine if the governments actions were on open book? Lol
in fact the public are more accepting of this stuff now than previously
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The purpose of torture is not getting information. It's spreading fear. - Eduardo Galeano
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They don't just pick up random brown people at the mall and pull their fingernails out
yes, they did.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/ex-bush-official-guantanamo-bay-innocent/
http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/12368/Due-to-a-mistaken-identity-an-innocent-man-was-tortured-for-5-years-in-Guantanamo-Bay
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/guantanamo-detaineestalibanbergdahlswap.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0425/300269-guantanamo/
and many more links
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yes, they did.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/ex-bush-official-guantanamo-bay-innocent/
Indeed, because he lived in Afghanistan and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of importance
http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/12368/Due-to-a-mistaken-identity-an-innocent-man-was-tortured-for-5-years-in-Guantanamo-Bay
In 2002, Deghayes was visiting Pakistan,
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/guantanamo-detaineestalibanbergdahlswap.html
Salim Hamdan pleaded guilty to being Osama bin Laden’s driver, he was repatriated to Yemen.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0425/300269-guantanamo/
380 were deemed to be low-ranking foot soldiers who traveled to Afghanistan or were part of the Taliban
and many more links
yeah, probably best to stop posting links now
you've not made the best argument for Americans being taken at the local Target by DHS
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Indeed, because he lived in Afghanistan and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of importance
In 2002, Deghayes was visiting Pakistan,
Living near a crime scene, or visiting an area where there is crime. You must be guilty of something.
380 were deemed to be low-ranking foot soldiers
Soldiers are suppose to be covered by the Geneva Convention. The United States of America is in violation of the Geneva Convention.
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One prisoner died in custody. Of hypothermia. Not sure how that happens.
Anyone here that condones freezing prisoners to death... They open door to all using it.
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I believe in this case it's being done to incite an enemy state.
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This is why the public shouldn't know everything. Imagine if the governments actions were on open book? Lol
I don't know to what end that would go.
Seems if something can't (won't) be explained, there's a reason for that.
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A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy. - Aldous Huxley
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CNN has been continuously running the story about how the CIA conducted various torture methods after Sept 11, 2001 (to get info about impending attacks)
I'm having a difficult time trying to give a shit
not only do i not care, give a shit, or fuck. i'm fucking glad :D
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Turn the Muslim terrorists over to the Mexican cartels and let them handle them.
That's the ticket Jane!
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Sulfuric Acid is good for torturing terrorist .................. :D
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That's the ticket Jane!
So hand them to mexican cartels who kill americans? cool story
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Have any Getbiggers been following the case of Omar Khadr? If so, can anyone explain why Justin Trudeau, our Cuckminister in Chief, gave him $10.5 million?
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Have any Getbiggers been following the case of Omar Khadr? If so, can anyone explain why Justin Trudeau, our Cuckminister in Chief, gave him $10.5 million?
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