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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: R.A.M. on February 20, 2006, 06:15:03 PM
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I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq. Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol. If it was up to me I would just take Eq. But, we all know test is the base for any cycle. So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.
Thanks
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I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq. Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol. If it was up to me I would just take Eq. But, we all know test is the base for any cycle. So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.
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what dose are you running the eq at?
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Grow balls, use test, or don't do gear...it's that simple.
Why would you not want to use test? It's the safest most beneficial thing you can take.
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Alright i'm 6ft , 216 pounds and this will be may 2nd cycle. I want to diet down to 200 or 195 before this next cycle. My first cycle was 500 mgs of Test E and 75mg of Winstrol. Love the feeling of test but, the only downfall was the water retention. But this time I will be running Armidex to keep the water retention fairly low. I was just curious on the lowest amount of test that can be ran in a cycle. I basicly want the dryest gains that I can get with a good diet and a very good PCT.
Trust me I WILL take test I just like different views from people.
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wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT
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wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT
^This cycle is close to what I'd recommend.
You could exchange the EQ or Winstrol, or change the duration, but that's the base cycle I'd have you run.
DIV
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i always thought the mg minimum of eq should be 400??
also, it usually takes a while to kick in, should eq be ran at least 10 weeks???
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i always thought the mg minimum of eq should be 400??
also, it usually takes a while to kick in, should eq be ran at least 10 weeks???
There's no set rule, Wesley.
Besides, it's his first cycle.
DIV
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for a first cycle 300mg of eq is definitely enough.
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It says its his second cycle ;)
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It says its his second cycle ;)
He can up the EQ if he wants, it's not that big of a difference, IMO.
DIV
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Hyea there is no big differemce between 300 or 400mg of EQ/week.
Personally I would run 400mg of EQ and test Enanthate instead Susta if I take just 2 shoots/week.
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i have experience with test e only, i have always wanted to try sust and im thinking of switching over during this cycle to sust from test e. i like the cycle recommendations from a-jr, as him and div always give good advice. like u mentioned bro, the adex will take care with the water but to be honest, the only way i have water troubles is with a high carb/sodium diet which i tend to suck away from as i like to be lean then bulky. good luck with this cycle bro
muscle
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i have experience with test e only, i have always wanted to try sust and im thinking of switching over during this cycle to sust from test e.
muscle
If I were you I'd just stay with the test-e this cycle and save the sust for the next one. I don't think there would be any benefit in making the switch at this time, especially if you're already well into your cycle. I don't know how far in you're in, if it is only a wk or so, then if you switched it would probably be ok, but if not I'd stay with the test-e.
But definitely give the sust a try next go around, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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wk 1-8 EQ 300mg wk
wk 1-12 sust 500mg wk
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed
wk 13-16 prop 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex 1mg eod
wk 17-19 PCT
That's a quite a nice cycle if you like those of a longer duration. I wouldn't up the eq but would extend it by 2-4 weeks and forgo the Winny (much better for short cycles). Personally I would change the Sust for Enanthate and perhaps reduce the whole thing to 12-14 weeks pre PCT but that's just my preference.
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I want to start a cycle of Test and Eq. Also I will be taking Clen and Armidex. Possibly winstrol. If it was up to me I would just take Eq. But, we all know test is the base for any cycle. So my question is, What is the smallest amount of test I can get away with.
Thanks
Sounds to me like you are scared of test. Lol....
I would never go below 500 mgs unless you are on HRT.
Water retention can be mitigated through diet, water intake, caffeine, proper ancillaries and herbal diuretics.
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Sounds to me like you are scared of test. Lol....
I would never go below 500 mgs unless you are on HRT.
Water retention can be mitigated through diet, water intake, caffeine, proper ancillaries and herbal diuretics.
good advice
muscle