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Title: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: thegamechanger on December 12, 2014, 03:34:36 AM
I listen to youtube videos and podcasts and every other person says "umm" "umm" in every sentence, why is that? how come they cannot speak properly?? "umm!" are they slow in the brain? did they fail school? how can people go through life and not be able to complete a sentence without adding "umm" to it?
i find it even worse than "you know". if you cant open your mouth without adding "umm" and "you know" you shouldnt speak at all, youre basically a monkey.

look at the videopodcast with milos sarvec for example, the interviewer mark cole says "Umm" 9 times in the first 45 seconds! and thats an hour long show!
how the hell are you supposed to be able to listen to that.

its like theyre so braindead they have to paus themselves and search the brain like it's a slow harddrive and while the brain is spinning the "umm" noise comes like a harddrive sound.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: da_vinci on December 12, 2014, 03:35:18 AM
umm... I think no.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Papper on December 12, 2014, 03:46:02 AM
It's a sign of poor intellect and a sub standard brain

Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: _aj_ on December 12, 2014, 03:56:14 AM
Early in my career, I had to give a 90 minute tech talk at a developer conference. I knew it was going to be well attended because it was a popular subject (performance tuning web servers). When I got there it was 6500 people in the hall. Gulp.

I had gotten some advice from a friend to take a deep breath if I wanted to say "umm". I started my talk by telling that to the audience and said I had a better idea: every time I say "umm", they should clap. Let's just say that there was much applause that day. But I laughed a lot and got through it fine.

Edited to be bb related: after the talk, a young woman in the audience introduced herself and came on to me like a train. She was a full-time coder and part time personal trainer in NYC and her body was BANGING. We fucked that night and had a sort of thing for a few months. She liked my "muscular arms" which were MAYBE 16" back then.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: gracie bjj on December 12, 2014, 04:00:25 AM
i think its better to say (well) if u need a second to think,it sounds more professional imo
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 12, 2014, 04:11:08 AM
I listen to youtube videos and podcasts and every other person says "umm" "umm" in every sentence, why is that? how come they cannot speak properly??

Why are you watching and listening to these individuals?   Are they from your social stratum?
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Man of Steel on December 12, 2014, 04:12:13 AM
If you're prepared to speak you reduce the "umms" automatically.

Speaking off the cuff the potential increases.....that umm moment gives you a pause to think.  Takes practice to avoid filling those brief moments with the umms.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Novena on December 12, 2014, 04:13:43 AM
Visualize a “mute led” in your head.  When you are thinking  and are prone to make “space marking” sounds like; “ummmm”, “you know”, or “like”, visualize the mute led lighting,  and you engage your “vocal clutch” and concentrate on not  vocalizing  the space markers.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Man of Steel on December 12, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Visualize a “mute led” in your head.  When you are thinking  and are prone to make “space marking” sounds like; “ummmm”, “you know”, or “like”, visualize the mute led lighting,  and you engage your “vocal clutch” and concentrate on not  vocalizing  the space markers.

exactly.....fill those moments of pause (used to think or transition) with silence....takes practice
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: polychronopolous on December 12, 2014, 04:22:53 AM
It's a sign of poor intellect and a sub standard brain



Jerry Jones says it practically every other word and he's a multi billionaire.

Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: _bruce_ on December 12, 2014, 04:31:03 AM
It probably related to how gifted you are as a speaker - automatically extracting, rearranging, rephrasing the things you're about to say. Some people have the pipeline filled while there mouth is going off, others get a bubble/stall and produce an ummm while their brains reworking the "precious" knowledge they're about to unleash.
At least this is how Pentium people behave.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: FermiDirac on December 12, 2014, 04:36:26 AM
It's a patriarchal opression, men use it to keep the word even when not saying anything. Cisgendered man pig bigots  >:(
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 12, 2014, 04:40:18 AM
I heard it is a tool of racial oppression used by the white devil.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: da_vinci on December 12, 2014, 04:42:11 AM
Early in my career, I had to give a 90 minute tech talk at a developer conference. I knew it was going to be well attended because it was a popular subject (performance tuning web servers). When I got there it was 6500 people in the hall. Gulp.

I had gotten some advice from a friend to take a deep breath if I wanted to say "umm". I started my talk by telling that to the audience and said I had a better idea: every time I say "umm", they should clap. Let's just say that there was much applause that day. But I laughed a lot and got through it fine.

Edited to be bb related: after the talk, a young woman in the audience introduced herself and came on to me like a train. She was a full-time coder and part time personal trainer in NYC and her body was BANGING. We fucked that night and had a sort of thing for a few months. She liked my "muscular arms" which were MAYBE 16" back then.

What exactly are you doing in the web field currently? (just curious. I'm a dev myself.).
To make it bb related: don't you get weird reactions when people assume you are a bouncer and it turns out you are a pc geek. I get.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: _aj_ on December 12, 2014, 04:46:21 AM
What exactly are you doing in the web field currently? (just curious. I'm a dev myself.).
To make it bb related: don't you get weird reactions when people assume you are a bouncer and it turns out you are a pc geek. I get.

Back in the day, I was working for a recently acquired subsidiary of IBM and working on the what-would-someday-be the Apache web server. It was gnarly C code, but it was great yimes to be in the biz.

Currently, I am VP Engineering/CTO/Chief Architect of a midsized SaaS company in the Boston area. I know we all say this, but it is actually true.

And yes, it was always a very pleasant surprise for women to find out that there was a brain atop this body.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: da_vinci on December 12, 2014, 04:49:53 AM
Back in the day, I was working for a recently acquired subsidiary of IBM and working on the what-would-someday-be the Apache web server. It was gnarly C code, but it was great yimes to be in the biz.

Currently, I am VP Engineering/CTO/Chief Architect of a midsized SaaS company in the Boston area. I know we all say this, but it is actually true.

And yes, it was always a very pleasant surprise for women to find out that there was a brain atop this body.

Interesting and well accomplished career, props.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: _aj_ on December 12, 2014, 04:59:48 AM
Interesting and well accomplished career, props.

I still have CEO to go. It's in my 10 year plan. Technically, I am about 5 years ahead of plan, so I am looking good.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Tapeworm on December 12, 2014, 05:00:14 AM
Imho just speak naturally unless you're a hardcore um abuser.  Tie & collar guys seem to favor the silent pause thing and, gotta say, it's really offputting, and quick.  

Conversation should flow.  Everyone gets to feel at ease.  No one gets the sense that someone is mistrustful or picking his words carefully for a reason.  Talking absolute shit with a smile is preferable to opting for a conversational manner that will put the other guy on guard.

I used to contract to an English guy who would do the pause & clause thing.  I got the sense he read it in a book about how to make people hang on your next word.  It was like discussing a project with William Shatner.  By the end I was so tempted to just shove my end to his sentence into the giant conversational vaginas he kept hanging out there.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: muscleman-2013 on December 12, 2014, 05:09:18 AM
Imho just speak naturally unless you're a hardcore um abuser.  Tie & collar guys seem to favor the silent pause thing and, gotta say, it's really offputting, and quick.  

Conversation should flow.  Everyone gets to feel at ease.  No one gets the sense that someone is mistrustful or picking his words carefully for a reason.  Talking absolute shit with a smile is preferable to opting for a conversational manner that will put the other guy on guard.

I used to contract to an English guy who would do the pause & clause thing.  I got the sense he read it in a book about how to make people hang on your next word.  It was like discussing a project with William Shatner.  By the end I was so tempted to just shove my end to his sentence into the giant conversational vaginas he kept hanging out there.


umm umm umm umm is painful and annoying, simple as that.  nothing to do with being a natural conversationalist or speaker.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: thegamechanger on December 12, 2014, 05:11:34 AM
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Tapeworm on December 12, 2014, 05:21:24 AM

umm umm umm umm is painful and annoying, simple as that.  nothing to do with being a natural conversationalist or speaker.

Well now that's simply not true.  Witnessing the flow of someone's consciousness as it happens is like watching the birth of the universe unfold.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Tom on December 12, 2014, 05:52:31 AM
around the same time when they stop using "you know" between every sentence....and when others learn to stop peppering their meaningful intelligent discussions with the "F" bomb every other word to REALLY get their point across....
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: FermiDirac on December 12, 2014, 06:03:03 AM
around the same time when they stop using "you know" between every sentence....and when others learn to stop peppering their meaningful intelligent discussions with the "F" bomb every other word to REALLY get their point across....

"You know... it's like when you fucking build a fucking superconductor you have to ... uhm.... watch that fucking Meissner effect you know, if you don't then your calculations will be pretty fucking off due to negligence in the fucking model, you know?"

Works pretty good ;D



I usually instantly take a dislike to people who curse and use a lot of profanities in their everyday conversations. It's a rude and obtuse way of speaking to other people, on top of being disrespectful. I find it repulsive and disruptive.  >:(
Then of course, they themselves probably find it cool and learnt it from their parents.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Dokey111 on December 12, 2014, 06:08:55 AM
It is actually a sign of intelligence.  Go and watch the "You err me" video if you don't believe me.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Tapeworm on December 12, 2014, 06:23:58 AM
This is an emergency broadcast.  

There was a lingustic pandemic.  Some say it started with a cop who was afflicted with a peculiar formality and an inexplicable 'at the current time' compulsion.  Other folks say it came out of the west as a virulent mutation of the Valley Virus and swept across the nation.  

We know this: We're still here.  We've received messages from other survivors.  Please respond if you are receiving and are still able to transmit.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 12, 2014, 06:50:30 AM
This is something I tend to notice.  The president of a company I used to work used to say "and uhhhhh" all the time.  Once during a 45 minute speech, he said "and uhhhhh" 140 times.  I marked it down every time he said it.
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Redux on December 12, 2014, 07:05:14 AM
"ummm" "uhhh"  "ahhhh" "and ahhhh" "but ummm"  "you know"  those fucking filler words are all annoying as fuck to hear over and over and over.  It's like the morons that use them can't think more than five words ahead at a time and have to buy their pea brains some time to form the next five. Just use a fucking silent pause.
Obama is one of the worst offenders. If he doesn't have that fucking teleprompter telling him what to say he's unwatchable with the constant "uhhhs"
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Papper on December 12, 2014, 07:14:47 AM
Jerry Jones says it practically every other word and he's a multi billionaire.



I was semi trolling with that one.

I does annoy me though sometimes
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: thegamechanger on December 12, 2014, 09:43:24 AM
glad im not the only one that noticed this and is annoyed by it  :)
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: gmflex on December 12, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
Tim Duncan from the spurs is by far the worst athlete / celebrity ..
Ummm for everything....
Title: Re: When will people learn to speak without saying "Umm?"
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2014, 11:43:04 PM
What I can't stand is females that say "like" several times in one sentence.


..."so I was like 'no way'. And he was like "yeah". Then I was like "no". Then he was totally like... he was like 'yeah way' ".