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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IronMeister on December 13, 2014, 12:57:42 AM
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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text)
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2338/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2338/text)
Appendix I
The following steroids / prohormones have be explicitly banned by HR 4771:
•5α-Androstan-3,6,17-trione (A form of 6-oxo)
•6-bromo-androstan-3,17-dione (A form of 6-bromoandrostenedione, an aromatase inhibitor)
•6-bromo-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione
•4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“Halodrol”)
•4-chloro-17α-methyl-androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol (“P-Mag” or “Promagnon 25″)
•4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one (17a-methyl clostebol)
•4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,11-dione (“Oxyguno”)
•4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“Halodrol” is listed twice)
•2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one (“Methasterone” or “Superdrol)
•2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5β-androstan-3-one
•2α,3α-epithio-17α-methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Epistane” or “Havoc”)
•[3,2-c]-furazan-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Furuza”)
•3β-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-17-one
•17α-methyl-androst-2-ene-3,17β-diol
•17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol (“M1,4ADD”)
•Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione (“Trendione”)
•18a-Homo-3-hydroxy-estra-2,5(10)-dien-17-one
•6α-Methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (Found in “Methyl-1 Pro”)
•17α-Methyl-androstan-3-hydroxyimine-17β-ol (“The One” or “D-Plex”)
•17α-Methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Methylandrostanol” / “Protobol”)
•17β-Hydroxy-androstano[2,3-d]isoxazole (“Androisoxazole”)
•17β-Hydroxy-androstano[3,2-c]isoxazole
•4-Hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (“Formestane”)
•[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol (“Prostanozol”)
•[3,2-c]pyrazole-androst-4-en-17β-ol
•[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-o (“Prostanozol”)
Thanks Obama! ;D
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I'm just glad America's kids are safe now.
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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text)
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2338/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2338/text)
Thanks Obama! ;D
This was sponsored by Joseph R. Pitts (Republican, Pennsylvania). It was passed by “voice vote,” meaning no record is made of who voted and which way…
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3β-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-17-one
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione (“Trendione”)
Hahaha, all natural, just over the counter supplements. Meanwhile mg for mg it's one of the strongest substances around. ;D
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Smoking and drinking all you want is OK though ::) ::)
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text
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Sadly, one of the only things that both parties can agree on is that steroids are bad. It's for the children, you know. Also, both parties find keeping power a lot easier if there are only women and feminized men to subjugate.
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Good. Products were crap anyway. Now them sissies will have to man up and do shots!
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Sadly, one of the only things that both parties can agree on is that steroids are bad. It's for the children, you know. Also, both parties find keeping power a lot easier if there are only women and feminized men to subjugate.
Yep exactly. While its typically neo con types like oren hatch who want to police morality, the dems totally agree with them when it comes to roids. In both parties eyes, roids are evil and serve no purpose to have legal
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Obama is very serious about stopping illegal drugs.
(http://api.ning.com/files/8MSUv-ePX9D6yDUd6*TJJQwB-UHd1q1JQqUeZ9Xhr6LH3s7k9hSvXgpx426eTZlDWx0aAqTJIBcFktFQcYyFft*XLRnp7t-*/TroopsinAfghanistanprotectingourfreedomhereathomeohwaitthatsapoppyfieldnevermind.jpg)
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obama dont know shit, like all people out there. U could rather let a random number generator do all the decisions and the society should stil work like before!
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obama dont know shit, like all people out there. U could rather let a random number generator do all the decisions and the society should stil work like before!
Yep
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The Senate passed a bill Thursday to prohibit the use of designer steroids.
H.R. 4771, the Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act, adds "anabolic steroids" to the list on substances included in the Controlled Substances Act.
ADVERTISEMENT
Use of the steroids have been linked to deaths.
The House passed the bill in September, meaning it now heads to President Obama’s desk to be signed into law.
The Senate also passed S. 2338, the United States Anti-Doping Agency Reauthorization Act, which authorizes appropriations for the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency through 2020. The agency ensures U.S. athletes don’t use performance-enhancing drugs. The measure now heads to the House for further action.
Several “housekeeping” measures were passed as the Senate concluded its work for the evening. A list of the other bills passed through unanimous consent agreements follows:
- H.R. 5057, the EPS Service Parts Act, exempts external power supplies for four years from energy conservation standards established by the Department of Energy. The House passed the bill in September so it heads the president’s desk.
- S. 3008 temporarily extends mortgage protection for uniformed service members. The bill goes to the House for further consideration.
- H.R. 3096 designates the FBI building Vienna, Va., as the "Michael D. Resnick Terrorist Screening Center." The House passed the measure in September so it heads to the president’s desk.
- S. 2983, the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy Improvement Act now heads to the House for further action.
The Senate also confirmed several military nominations before adjourning for the evening.
So folks, if you have been thinking about getting some Blackstone Labs products, you better fucking do that damn thing right now because once Obama signs that bill which will be in a few days, the shit is over with and DONE. Use Vince10 for a discount or don't use it.....I don't care at this point because I'm about to lose some good Amazon affiliate income. If you have any common sense whatsoever, I would suggest that you make this a priority.
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Commie bastards....
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What a waste of time and effort.
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THIS IS IT PEOPLE....READ & TAKE ACTION!!! - Stock Up Today!!
When I first read the thread title I got all excited. I thought we were going to be able to buy stocks for caliber fitness and caliber grocery.
I would definitely be able to afford 0.02$ cents a share.
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No tits, no peace.
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And alcohol is legal
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this from the same president that smokes weed , and did likes of coke , and eat a dog
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(http://m1.i.pbase.com/o6/05/677405/1/119589001.dVtjfjNU.thumbsup5a.bmp).
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PIP MAGIC STICK
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So what are pj and Aaron going to do with those lambos?
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http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Bill-Text-HR-4771-2014-5-29.pdf?mc_cid=58d3cbefdb&mc_eid=a8e54a77e6
But let's legalize weed....fucking idiots
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(http://m1.i.pbase.com/o6/05/677405/1/119589001.dVtjfjNU.thumbsup5a.bmp).
antisemitic post reported.
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So what are pj and Aaron going to do with those lambos?
Damn, I thought the same thing
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I feel like I should buy a CONEX of methy-tren even though I am terrified of it.
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to slow. you've been scooped (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=560891.0) by vince G, CSN MFT.
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Prices will drop further, if you remember the bans of a decade ago, they were dropping stock at $5 - 10 a bottle. It will be interesting to see what happens to all the companies that hitched their wagons to prohormones now that they can't go to the well of Vida's book again and pick a few new ones to get around the ban. I suppose some will survive on odd ball stimulant potions, but it's only a matter of time before we see the "Designer Stimulant Control Act of xxxx" in a few years.
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Mr. President Decline or Veto the Anabolic Steroid Act of 2014
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mr-president-decline-or-veto-anabolic-steroid-act-2014/LlfvJ9Vg (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mr-president-decline-or-veto-anabolic-steroid-act-2014/LlfvJ9Vg)
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mr-president-decline-or-veto-anabolic-steroid-act-2014/LlfvJ9Vg (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mr-president-decline-or-veto-anabolic-steroid-act-2014/LlfvJ9Vg)
Aahahahahaha! You have a better chance of seeing Biden running around nude in your front yard. Nothing is as universally reviled as AAS.
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Prices will drop further, if you remember the bans of a decade ago, they were dropping stock at $5 - 10 a bottle. It will be interesting to see what happens to all the companies that hitched their wagons to prohormones now that they can't go to the well of Vida's book again and pick a few new ones to get around the ban. I suppose some will survive on odd ball stimulant potions, but it's only a matter of time before we see the "Designer Stimulant Control Act of xxxx" in a few years.
They're just getting around to the "Stuff We Don't Like Control Act". It'll be a blank sheet of paper that the AG can just add stuff to. It'll be the law that once something is added, it can't be removed.
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Smoking and drinking all you want is OK though ::) ::)
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771/text
Sugar is numero uno in doping world :)
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What's the big deal?
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Venom vince have you used black stone products yourself and can you attest to their efficacy? ???
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4th thread (at least) about this.
So when is the last day for me to stock up on epistane?
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4th thread (at least) about this.
So when is the last day for me to stock up on epistane?
Man, the steroid users are really melting over this. As you said, 4th thread in about 30 minutes lol
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Vince G, Manly beach cops arrested someone for photographing young girls (reported by Manly Daily) ;D
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The Senate passed a bill Thursday to prohibit the use of designer steroids.
H.R. 4771, the Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act, adds "anabolic steroids" to the list on substances included in the Controlled Substances Act.
ADVERTISEMENT
Use of the steroids have been linked to deaths.
The House passed the bill in September, meaning it now heads to President Obama’s desk to be signed into law.
The Senate also passed S. 2338, the United States Anti-Doping Agency Reauthorization Act, which authorizes appropriations for the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency through 2020. The agency ensures U.S. athletes don’t use performance-enhancing drugs. The measure now heads to the House for further action.
Several “housekeeping” measures were passed as the Senate concluded its work for the evening. A list of the other bills passed through unanimous consent agreements follows:
- H.R. 5057, the EPS Service Parts Act, exempts external power supplies for four years from energy conservation standards established by the Department of Energy. The House passed the bill in September so it heads the president’s desk.
- S. 3008 temporarily extends mortgage protection for uniformed service members. The bill goes to the House for further consideration.
- H.R. 3096 designates the FBI building Vienna, Va., as the "Michael D. Resnick Terrorist Screening Center." The House passed the measure in September so it heads to the president’s desk.
- S. 2983, the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy Improvement Act now heads to the House for further action.
The Senate also confirmed several military nominations before adjourning for the evening.
So folks, if you have been thinking about getting some Blackstone Labs products, you better fucking do that damn thing right now because once Obama signs that bill which will be in a few days, the shit is over with and DONE. Use Vince10 for a discount or don't use it.....I don't care at this point because I'm about to lose some good Amazon affiliate income. If you have any common sense whatsoever, I would suggest that you make this a priority.
Brilliant, but lets legalize weed and turn even more people into a nation of lazy pot heads.
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I notice steroids are illegal in countries where feminism has taken over, and legal in countries where men still run the show.
e.g. legal in eastern europe, middle east, many asian countries, many south and central american countries, etc.
Illegal in feminist countries USA, Australia, Sweden, etc.
Is this a coincidence?
;D , sugar & booze is not ............ :P
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Does this effect the "research chems" and peptides market? My research is far from done.
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Does this screw pj and Aaron?
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So sad, no chance for Juicemachine/Analboldichalo to live & shop dop in Venice Beach :'(
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No sugar ban for fat America ...............
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I take it They have a Big Problem
With All Types of Hormones. ::)
Alcohol,Cigarettes,Marijuana are
Okay.
They want you drunk,stoned, or dying.
Just not Big & Strong.
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Already getting evicted ???
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10549913_1496616417222835_1965914435_n.jpg)
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I notice steroids are illegal in countries where feminism has taken over, and legal in countries where men still run the show.
e.g. legal in eastern europe, middle east, many asian countries, many south and central american countries, etc.
Illegal in feminist countries USA, Australia, Sweden, etc.
Is this a coincidence?
But in most of Australia brothels are legal so that makes up for it. No need to be jacked for the club when you can legally buy all you need. ;D
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I notice steroids are illegal in countries where feminism has taken over, and legal in countries where men still run the show.
e.g. legal in eastern europe, middle east, many asian countries, many south and central american countries, etc.
Illegal in feminist countries USA, Australia, Sweden, etc.
Is this a coincidence?
No, it's cause and effect.
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Sounds good. There should be a mandatory 1 year sentence for roid use or possession, 5 years for sale.
The fewer posers, the better.
Alcohol and tobacco should be banned and pain meds.
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Republicans are awesome. They started it and they passed it!
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H.R.4771 - Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014113th Congress (2013-2014)
(https://www.govtrack.us/data/photos/400320-200px.jpeg)
Sponsor: Rep. Pitts, Joseph R. [R-PA-16] (Introduced 05/29/2014)
Committees: House - Energy and Commerce; Judiciary | Senate - Judiciary
Committee Reports: House Report 113-587,Part 1; House Report 113-587
Latest Action: 12/12/2014 Message on Senate action sent to the House.
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Republicans are awesome. They started it and they passed it!
That's why they are the Stupid Party.
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i dont know who buys prohormones to begin with did it ever do anything for anybody ? at least with creatine or protein powder you know what youre getting
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i dont know who buys prohormones to begin with did it ever do anything for anybody ? at least with creatine or protein powder you know what youre getting
These are not prohormones, they are anabolic steroids.
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That's why they are the Stupid Party.
Both parties are stupid and that's why we need term limits.
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Both parties are stupid and that's why we need term limits.
Why would that matter? Many shitty politicians only serve one term.
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In the end it dosen't matter as they some UG's carry M1T or others.
The underground will just take over.
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H.R.4771 - Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014113th Congress (2013-2014)
(https://www.govtrack.us/data/photos/400320-200px.jpeg)
Sponsor: Rep. Pitts, Joseph R. [R-PA-16] (Introduced 05/29/2014)
Committees: House - Energy and Commerce; Judiciary | Senate - Judiciary
Committee Reports: House Report 113-587,Part 1; House Report 113-587
Latest Action: 12/12/2014 Message on Senate action sent to the House.
And liberals legalized weed. Derp.
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And liberals legalized weed. Derp.
???
Legalization of drugs is a bad thing?
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And liberals legalized weed. Derp.
Don't you think they should both be legalized bro? I have strong conservative values and I believe they should.
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???
Legalization of drugs is a bad thing?
Coach thinks weed turns everyone into a lazy zombie.
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Why would that matter? Many shitty politicians only serve one term.
And many won't step down until they die like Kennedy. Why would they when they live like kings a queens as part of the congressional oligarchy.
With term limits Pelosi, Reed, Boehner and Mcconnell would be long gone not to mention countless other hacks.
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:D
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Don't you think they should both be legalized bro? I have strong conservative values and I believe they should.
Thats the problem with conservative morons like coach. "Hands off my private life govt!...but yeah keep drugs illegal and gays from doing what they want". They are for big govt just like liberals, just in other areas.
My inlaws are like this, huge pot heads but will vote conservative all day long.
True conservative would be for legalization of all drugs, unfortunately the right is so aligned with superstitions and witch craft like christianity, that there is no more real conservative voices in office, and if there was, they would be codemned by their own morality policing party
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From Aaron Singerman:
We are unloading the @blackstonelabs prohormones - use the code OBAMA25 and save 25% off the 4 products on the ban list! Once these are gone, sadly, they'll never be back!
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628195_10154978627070089_7411526683450302141_n.jpg?oh=370da6ca4842d5c9bdf0f6680f7952da&oe=54FF7FB9)
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Stock up on the following:
1- DMZ
2-MSten
3-1 Alpha
4- Epistane
Top 4.
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Stock up on the following:
1- DMZ
2-MSten
3-1 Alpha
4- Epistane
Top 4.
1 and 3 are not on the ban list as it's currently written.
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Stock up on the following:
1- DMZ
2-MSten
3-1 Alpha
4- Epistane
Top 4.
Will stock up on epistane for sure.
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Will stock up on epistane for sure.
Tell me about this "epistane"...
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Tell me about this "epistane"...
I don't know much about steronz but it is good for cutting. Kind of like anavar. Little to no noticeable sides for me other than dry joints.
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I'm betting Obama signs this into law early this coming week.
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So what are pj and Aaron going to do with those lambos?
We have been preparing for this day for a long time.
We have 17 SKUs at Blackstone, and 4 will be gone after this.
Prime has 20+ SKUS and none of them are in danger of ever becoming illegal.
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We have been preparing for this day for a long time.
We have 17 SKUs at Blackstone, and 4 will be gone after this.
Prime has 20+ SKUS and none of them are in danger of ever becoming illegal.
so, what are you going to do now? :(
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Already getting evicted ???
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10549913_1496616417222835_1965914435_n.jpg)
HAHAHaaaa. Evan is like "No artificial sweeteners!
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so, what are you going to do now? :(
Close up shop and look for a day job.
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Close up shop and look for a day job.
Are you being sarcastic?
Seriously, will this affect your business that much to where you have to close shop? Cant you just market other supplements?
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I don't know much about steronz but it is good for cutting. Kind of like anavar. Little to no noticeable sides for me other than dry joints.
so winstrol?
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From Aaron Singerman:
We are unloading the @blackstonelabs prohormones - use the code OBAMA25 and save 25% off the 4 products on the ban list! Once these are gone, sadly, they'll never be back!
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628195_10154978627070089_7411526683450302141_n.jpg?oh=370da6ca4842d5c9bdf0f6680f7952da&oe=54FF7FB9)
p.j is it really that hard to get a suit tailored?
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This was sponsored by Joseph R. Pitts (Republican, Pennsylvania). It was passed by “voice vote,” meaning no record is made of who voted and which way…
GW Bush was the 1st President to talk openly about banning steroids in baseball during one his state of the union speeches.
The reality is we have plenty of elected douchebags in BOTH parties that help pass these laws for strictly PR reasons with the voters.
It's easy to do and makes for some effective political theatre.
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p.j is it really that hard to get a suit tailored?
No, I like the Custom Shop in Houston.
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Don't you think they should both be legalized bro? I have strong conservative values and I believe they should.
Absofuckinglutely.
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(http://i.imgur.com/LAsr6Bj.jpg)
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hahahhaha where the fuck do you ger wverything from
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Seriously, is anyone stupid enough to buy prohormones?
They are basically a liver melter with none of the good steroid effects.
I hope this is another nail in the coffin in the supplement charlatan industry. Poor supplement companies, they can't melt more teen livers with their capsuled snake oil.
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Seriously, is anyone stupid enough to buy prohormones?
They are basically a liver melter with none of the good steroid effects.
I hope this is another nail in the coffin in the supplement charlatan industry. Poor supplement companies, they can't melt more teen livers with their capsuled snake oil.
You don't seem to get it. The law being signed is for designer steroids which is quite vague. They can literally use this law to ban items such as DHEA, Tribulus, Boron, etc. This law benefits only the pharmaceutical companies that will sell these products once its banned for exorbitant prices
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p.j is it really that hard to get a suit tailored?
I lost a lot of weight for the BeatPJ contest. Didn't want to wear the tailored ones we bought because it looked too flashy.
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I lost a lot of weight for the BeatPJ contest. Didn't want to wear the tailored ones we bought because it looked too flashy.
The ass looks great as always bro.
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The ass looks great as always bro.
Yes, I tossed successfully to it.
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Yes, I tossed successfully to it.
^^Top 5 Asses ever on GetBig.
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Who cares? I don't use anyway that shit anyway. "Prohormones". ::) What a crock. That's like wiping your ass before you take a shit.
Juice FTW.
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Who cares? I don't use anyway that shit anyway. "Prohormones". ::) What a crock. That's like wiping your ass before you take a shit.
Juice FTW.
You must be a large man.
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You must be a large man.
Most likely an all around big dude.
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You don't seem to get it. The law being signed is for designer steroids which is quite vague. They can literally use this law to ban items such as DHEA, Tribulus, Boron, etc. This law benefits only the pharmaceutical companies that will sell these products once its banned for exorbitant prices
I totally get it, I just don't see any problem in reducing the snake oil market. Tribulus, ::) what a "miracle" supplement. As I said, I won't weep seeing this garbage go. It's only there for teens who are too scared to buy the real deal.
These "supplements" was only ever in the market to make money, they fill no purpose otherwise.
Btw, how will caliber fitness fare now? I hope it goes all well.
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I totally get it, I just don't see any problem in reducing the snake oil market. Tribulus, ::) what a "miracle" supplement. As I said, I won't weep seeing this garbage go. It's only there for teens who are too scared to buy the real deal.
These "supplements" was only ever in the market to make money, they fill no purpose otherwise.
Btw, how will caliber fitness fare now? I hope it goes all well.
tribulus works...im in week 10 of a dbol tren and test cykle and once i put in tribulus in this cykle i will grow atleast 100% faster
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tribulus works...im in week 10 of a dbol tren and test cykle and once i put in tribulus in this cykle i will grow atleast 100% faster
But I thought tribulus was a capitalist drug banned in Democratic Peoples Republic of Best Korea by humble great leader? ???
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But I thought tribulus was a capitalist drug banned in Democratic Peoples Republic of Best Korea by humble great leader? ???
;D
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Relax.
There is a new wave ot "steroids" that will be replacing the old ones. And will be stronger.
You can not stop the money machine, you just cant!
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If you're young and healthy, there's nothing wrong with using prohormones. You will make good gains, and you will have to deal with the toxicity issue, a bit... that just goes with it. But if you're young, it's better for you than drinking 5 shots of Fireball with your friends a few nights a week. You'll recover and you'll be fine.
Is this ban just a result of idiots taking 5x the dose, without breaks, then crying because they mess themselves up? Sort of like the Ephedrine ban... when it's great asthma/allergy meds. I haven't followed the prohormone ban issue too closely. Seems shady for the govt to quietly "verbally" bad this, a week before Christmas when nobody notices.
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Is this ban just a result of idiots taking 5x the dose, without breaks, then crying because they mess themselves up? Sort of like the Ephedrine ban... when it's great asthma/allergy meds. I haven't followed the prohormone ban issue too closely. Seems shady for the govt to quietly "verbally" bad this, a week before Christmas when nobody notices.
I was about to say, sounds like the reason for every other ban. Last I remember was the old jack3d.
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Relax.
There is a new wave ot "steroids" that will be replacing the old ones. And will be stronger.
You can not stop the money machine, you just cant!
Yeah, they have a ban like this every couple of years. They tweak the chemical properties a bit and re-release it... Cat and mouse...
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Naw, they 're really going to shut the door on stuff, this part of one of the summaries -
"(1) expand the list of substances defined as "anabolic steroids"; (2) authorize the United States Attorney General to issue a temporary order adding a drug or other substance to the list of anabolic steroids; ".
is the killer. They'll simply add to the list every few months when they notice a new one getting popular, and there you have it. The companies will be scraping the bottom of the anabolic barrel in the next couple of years.
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If you're young and healthy, there's nothing wrong with using prohormones. You will make good gains, and you will have to deal with the toxicity issue, a bit... that just goes with it. But if you're young, it's better for you than drinking 5 shots of Fireball with your friends a few nights a week. You'll recover and you'll be fine.
Is this ban just a result of idiots taking 5x the dose, without breaks, then crying because they mess themselves up? Sort of like the Ephedrine ban... when it's great asthma/allergy meds. I haven't followed the prohormone ban issue too closely. Seems shady for the govt to quietly "verbally" bad this, a week before Christmas when nobody notices.
Absolutely, I did the first wave of prohormones Andro etc. I was in my late thirty's and got the same results as doing low dosages of D'bol, Anavar, Deca. Got no side effects that I was aware of.
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so when is obama planning on outlawing Creatine ???
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so when is obama planning on outlawing Creatine ???
This should be the first hint that creatine is bunk.
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The stuff will still be available, UGL's or will sell it becasue the "anabolicmind .c-om" kiddies eat that stuff up like skittles.
M1T is still for sale all over the place, was banned many years ago...
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I know prohormones are mostly looked down upon and ultimately might not be the best to take from the reading I've done, but honestly its been really hard to source just basic test, so I'm thinking a cycle of Methyl-tren or Havoc cant be too terrible, no?
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I know prohormones are mostly looked down upon and ultimately might not be the best to take from the reading I've done, but honestly its been really hard to source just basic test, so I'm thinking a cycle of Methyl-tren or Havoc cant be too terrible, no?
You're not looking hard enough lol
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Man, I searched hard enough this year that I just about gave up for now :-\ the closest I've come, it would have been a screwjob costwise
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I know prohormones are mostly looked down upon and ultimately might not be the best to take from the reading I've done, but honestly its been really hard to source just basic test, so I'm thinking a cycle of Methyl-tren or Havoc cant be too terrible, no?
fuck. just go start out at professionalmuscle or outlawmuscle like everyone else does and then eventually you will find out the private boards and which sources and good or not. If you are from overseas, go to promuscle and use the source genotec. He has been legit for 3 years and has good gear. .
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Thanks man, appreciate the tip. In all the searching I've done online In the past few months, I don't think I've heard of those before. I'll definitely start putting my time in over there and get started.