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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871508/Four-young-Christians-brutally-beheaded-ISIS-Iraq-refusing-convert-Islam-says-Vicar-Baghdad-Canon-Andrew-White.html
Four young Christians were brutally beheaded by ISIS in Iraq for refusing to convert to Islam, according to a British reverend forced to flee the country.
Canon Andrew White, known as the Vicar of Baghdad, told the horrifying story how of the youths, all under 15, were murdered for standing up to the jihadists.
The vicar of the city’s St George's Church, the only Anglican church in the whole of Iraq, has had to leave the country for Israel amid constant threats on his life by Islamic State.
In a harrowing interview with the Orthodox Christian Network, he said ISIS had killed ‘huge numbers’ of believers in Jesus.
‘Islamic State turned up and said to the children, “you say the words that you will follow Mohammad”’, he said, his voice cracking with emotion.
‘The children, all under 15, four of them, said “no, we love Yesua; we have always loved Yesua; we have always followed Yesua; Yesua has always been with us”.
‘They [ISIS] said, “Say the words.” They [the children] said, “No, we can't”.
‘They chopped all their heads off. How do you respond to that? You just cry.
‘They are my children. That is what we have been going through and that is what we are going through.'
British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning and American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff have all been beheaded by ISIS.
After running for his life at the behest of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Canon White has a shocking story to tell of the persecution suffered by Christians at the hands of Islamic state.
Iraq had 1.5 million Christians before the US-led invasion in 2003, but now all that are left are 250,000 who have been displaced from their homes in the north of the country by the advance of ISIS.
Canon White, a 50-year-old father-of-two, told another heartbreaking tale of a father forced to choose between his children and his faith.
He said: ‘They [ISIS] came to one of our people the other day, one of the Christians.
‘They said to him “either you say the words of converting to Islam or we kill all your children”.
‘He was desperate. He said the words and then he phoned me and said, "Abouna [Father], I said the words, does that mean that Yesua [Jesus] doesn't love me anymore?”
‘I said, “Yesua still loves you, he will always loves you".'
Canon White, who has a family home in the UK in Liphook, Hampshire, says it is ‘impossible’ for Christians to survive in Iraq under the tyranny of ISIS.
He said: ‘Things were bad in Baghdad, there were bombs and shootings and our people were being killed, so many of our people fled back to Nineveh, their traditional home.
‘It was safer, but then one day, ISIS – Islamic State. They came in and they hounded all of them out.
‘They killed huge numbers, they chopped their children in half, they chopped their heads off, and they moved north and it was so terrible what happened.’
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This is what mass immigration will bring to the western world.
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Too bad God doesn't give enough fucks to help his followers.
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Hey, they died for what they believed in, which is better than dying for what others want you to believe. Religions are all hooey.
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These Isis morons don't even understand that conversion to Islam doesn't involve "say these words" ::)
Simply if you believe in Allah and that Muhammad (pbuh) was his one true prophet then you are Muslim. No fancy conversion necessary.
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These Isis morons don't even understand that conversion to Islam doesn't involve "say these words" ::)
Simply if you believe in Allah and that Muhammad (pbuh) was his one true prophet then you are Muslim. No fancy conversion necessary.
I think it's more about murdering people than true interest in religion.
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These Isis morons don't even understand that conversion to Islam doesn't involve "say these words" ::)
Simply if you believe in Allah and that Muhammad (pbuh) was his one true prophet then you are Muslim. No fancy conversion necessary.
Islamic aplologists often suggest that the infamous sword verse of the Koran was meant for a specific time in history. It's now becoming clear that the specific historical event is the entirety of Islamic history.
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As opposed to gently beheading ???
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Buy ammo.
If you think you have enough already... buy more.
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I guess it was "God's plan". Everything happens for a reason...haha
My religion is right and yours is wrong. My imaginary friend has the answers, yours is just imaginary.
Dumb shits.
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They won't recover.
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Anyone who thinks these fools are really following islamic rules are F-ing stupid. Have you fools even read the acutally RULES of WAR in ISLAM?
1. “Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)
2. “Do not practice treachery or mutilation.(Al-Muwatta)
3. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees.(Al-Muwatta)
4. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)
5. “If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
6. “Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
7. “Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)
8. “Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)
9. “No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).
10. “Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
Do the idiots over seas acutally follow these rules? NO becuase they are a political group not a religious one.
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Islamic aplologists often suggest that the infamous sword verse of the Koran was meant for a specific time in history. It's now becoming clear that the specific historical event is the entirety of Islamic history.
Now it has become clear that your a dumbass. Put down the doughnut and do some research. Have you forgotten the crusades? Ehhhh...?
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I guess it was "God's plan". Everything happens for a reason...haha
My religion is right and yours is wrong. My imaginary friend has the answers, yours is just imaginary.
Dumb shits.
At the end of the day u still will always be 5'6 my friend
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Now it has become clear that your a dumbass. Put down the doughnut and do some research. Have you forgotten the crusades? Ehhhh...?
Have you forgotten the reason for the Crudades?
The Moslems invaded the territory of the
Eastern Roman Empire and the Emperor asked
for assistance from the West to liberate their
Territory from the Moslem invaders.
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..but we should not torture them in any way. ::)
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I guess it was "God's plan". Everything happens for a reason...haha
My religion is right and yours is wrong. My imaginary friend has the answers, yours is just imaginary.
Dumb shits.
I've noticed you always take the hit and run approach in religious threads.....something classically generic coupled with an insult and then run for the hills.
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At the end of the day u still will always be 5'6 my friend
Where are you getting your facts? 5' 7" Captain. 5' 11" in Stallone shoes.
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Anyone who thinks these fools are really following islamic rules are F-ing stupid. Have you fools even read the acutally RULES of WAR in ISLAM?
1. “Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)
2. “Do not practice treachery or mutilation.(Al-Muwatta)
3. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees.(Al-Muwatta)
4. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)
5. “If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
6. “Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
7. “Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)
8. “Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)
9. “No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).
10. “Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
Do the idiots over seas acutally follow these rules? NO becuase they are a political group not a religious one.
So it's a religion of peace.
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Too bad God doesn't give enough fucks to help his followers.
too bad you were born with a super low IQ
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As opposed to gently beheading ???
There's not much humour in this story, but that was good...
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too bad you were born with a super low IQ
Explain to me why your god lets his people be slaughtered by these animals. Use small words as I'm stupid.
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Their religion started with war.
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They won't recover.
;D ;D ;D
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Sounds like the kids weren't very smart.
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Now it has become clear that your a dumbass. Put down the doughnut and do some research. Have you forgotten the crusades? Ehhhh...?
Dont know you and never heard of you.
First contact is ad hominem.
Yes I remember the crusades.
Do you know anything else about the history of the crusades other than the generic term "crusades"?
Have you read any of the Koran or know what I was referencing?
My guess is you're a classic religious thread hit and run artist that has a handful of terms and objections memorized and beyond that it's "not worth your time".
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871508/Four-young-Christians-brutally-beheaded-ISIS-Iraq-refusing-convert-Islam-says-Vicar-Baghdad-Canon-Andrew-White.html
Four young Christians were brutally beheaded by ISIS in Iraq for refusing to convert to Islam, according to a British reverend forced to flee the country.
Canon Andrew White, known as the Vicar of Baghdad, told the horrifying story how of the youths, all under 15, were murdered for standing up to the jihadists.
The vicar of the city’s St George's Church, the only Anglican church in the whole of Iraq, has had to leave the country for Israel amid constant threats on his life by Islamic State.
In a harrowing interview with the Orthodox Christian Network, he said ISIS had killed ‘huge numbers’ of believers in Jesus.
‘Islamic State turned up and said to the children, “you say the words that you will follow Mohammad”’, he said, his voice cracking with emotion.
‘The children, all under 15, four of them, said “no, we love Yesua; we have always loved Yesua; we have always followed Yesua; Yesua has always been with us”.
‘They [ISIS] said, “Say the words.” They [the children] said, “No, we can't”.
‘They chopped all their heads off. How do you respond to that? You just cry.
‘They are my children. That is what we have been going through and that is what we are going through.'
British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning and American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff have all been beheaded by ISIS.
After running for his life at the behest of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Canon White has a shocking story to tell of the persecution suffered by Christians at the hands of Islamic state.
Iraq had 1.5 million Christians before the US-led invasion in 2003, but now all that are left are 250,000 who have been displaced from their homes in the north of the country by the advance of ISIS.
Canon White, a 50-year-old father-of-two, told another heartbreaking tale of a father forced to choose between his children and his faith.
He said: ‘They [ISIS] came to one of our people the other day, one of the Christians.
‘They said to him “either you say the words of converting to Islam or we kill all your children”.
‘He was desperate. He said the words and then he phoned me and said, "Abouna [Father], I said the words, does that mean that Yesua [Jesus] doesn't love me anymore?”
‘I said, “Yesua still loves you, he will always loves you".'
Canon White, who has a family home in the UK in Liphook, Hampshire, says it is ‘impossible’ for Christians to survive in Iraq under the tyranny of ISIS.
He said: ‘Things were bad in Baghdad, there were bombs and shootings and our people were being killed, so many of our people fled back to Nineveh, their traditional home.
‘It was safer, but then one day, ISIS – Islamic State. They came in and they hounded all of them out.
‘They killed huge numbers, they chopped their children in half, they chopped their heads off, and they moved north and it was so terrible what happened.’
Hearsay.. why didn't they attempt to contact the person who was there...