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Title: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
Plan is 500 week of test.  Only option is to include 5 weeks of hg anavar at 50 mg or 10 weeks deca at 200 mg.   which would u choose?
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ritch on December 14, 2014, 12:01:51 PM
how much var for 5 weeks?
your deca dose is to ease up joints and 10 weeks is not much.

For someone with 3k plus posts to ask something so elemental means I gotta once again repeat myself.
Go read the beginner section man before asking questions like this.

Don't wanna be a prick but c'mon.... Show us you made some effort/research and if you need advice, tweaks, will be more than willing to help.

Gonna be copying and pasting this now everytime I see some spoon feed/unresearched question, you guys are totally taking my will to help others away.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 12:08:32 PM
how much var for 5 weeks?
your deca dose is to ease up joints and 10 weeks is not much.

For someone with 3k plus posts to ask something so elemental means I gotta once again repeat myself.
Go read the beginner section man before asking questions like this.

Don't wanna be a prick but c'mon.... Show us you made some effort/research and if you need advice, tweaks, will be more than willing to help.

Gonna be copying and pasting this now everytime I see some spoon feed/unresearched question, you guys are totally taking my will to help others away.
Thanks dick.

Anyway there is more to the question if u had an ounce of intelligence.   My thoughts were that if u were to choose anavar, at 50 mg, there will be more solid gains with less aggressive pct.   deca maybe more gains but more shut down and more water retention, but less lowering of hdl
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ritch on December 14, 2014, 12:12:47 PM
figure it out yourself you dumb ass fucktard as you are CLUELESS especially with your last post where you post your ramdom brain farts.

your friend,
Ritch
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ritch on December 14, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
cause 200mg of deca is gonna make you HUGE!!!
beginner section, go read it chump.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
figure it out yourself you dumb ass fucktard as you are CLUELESS especially with your last post where you post your ramdom brain farts.

your friend,
Ritch
Lol.  Another Internet tough guy.   U are part of the reason why this board has suffered in the past few years, way too many douchbags
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ritch on December 14, 2014, 12:59:04 PM
Lol.  Another Internet tough guy.   U are part of the reason why this board has suffered in the past few years, way too many douchbags

Wasen't here the last few years.
Keep.
shooting.
blanks.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: Jizmo on December 14, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
deca for 10 weeks is pointless
deca at 200mg is pointless except for hrt enhancement
PCT and cycling is pointless too
200mg deca for 10 weeks and then PCT is triple pointlessness

anavar is pointless too but at least not triple :D
unless you got a really good source ur anavar is probably winstrol and thats gonna wreck ur joints but thats a different story so go with the "anavar"
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: DAGON666 on December 14, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
Plan is 500 week of test.  Only option is to include 5 weeks of hg anavar at 50 mg or 10 weeks deca at 200 mg.   which would u choose?

Damn! What are your goals bc theres a big difference  between running var or deca w/ your test.
 Makes no sense to me at all, not to mention the deca dose is pretty low..
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
Damn! What are your goals bc theres a big difference  between running var or deca w/ your test.
 Makes no sense to me at all, not to mention the deca dose is pretty low..

Both are from a HRt clinic and it's the maxdose of either.   Just wanted a boost to the HRt test 
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: DAGON666 on December 14, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
Both are from a HRt clinic and it's the maxdose of either.   Just wanted a boost to the HRt test 

If that's the case Id run the test @ 500mg and finish off your cycle w/ the var.
If you had more deca Id be all over that. Save that bottle till you get more then run it properly.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
If that's the case Id run the test @ 500mg and finish off your cycle w/ the var.
If you had more deca Id be all over that. Save that bottle till you get more then run it properly.
Why at the end?  Thought maybe the strength gains in the beginning would add better gains?
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: pestosterone on December 14, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
It doesn't matter when u take it once it's all over but u will look better after being on test a while and then var added to it will make u look harder and all that shit if u won't a kick start use it like that if u want to finish the run looking better use it at end
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
It doesn't matter when u take it once it's all over but u will look better after being on test a while and then var added to it will make u look harder and all that shit if u won't a kick start use it like that if u want to finish the run looking better use it at end
Thanks for the productive input!  Appreciate not all being dicks like "rich"
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 14, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
50mg of pharm-grade anavar sounds tantalizing, but any oral is pretty much in-n-out in terms of its effects.  You'll look great while taking it, but revert to your previous state afterwards.

Deca will give lasting gains, at least compared to anavar.  Go with the Deca...easy choice IMO
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 14, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
50mg of pharm-grade anavar sounds tantalizing, but any oral is pretty much in-n-out in terms of its effects.  You'll look great while taking it, but revert to your previous state afterwards.

Deca will give lasting gains, at least compared to anavar.  Go with the Deca...easy choice IMO
I've always heard the opposite, near permanent gains with var vs water weight with deca
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: pestosterone on December 14, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
I don't think u have enough deca to run and only for 10 weeks for lasting gains no. Wait till u can run deca triple that dose and and time frame then u will have lasting gains if it was me ide run the var at the end
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 14, 2014, 05:11:55 PM
I've always heard the opposite, near permanent gains with var vs water weight with deca

WTF?? ......no

Deca actually builds new tissue, anavar basically gives you a 24/7 pump and tightens your skin a bit--effects that fade upon cessation of usage.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: kevthekid on December 14, 2014, 07:00:41 PM
Don't listen to these people calling you an idiot man....Boards like these exsist so you can ask questions so that guy is a moron. Anyways....Run the var and wait till you have more deca it'll be worth it
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: TEMPER on December 14, 2014, 08:44:00 PM
I've always heard the opposite, near permanent gains with var vs water weight with deca

You're using the words "PCT" and "Permanent gains" in the same universe...Lol.


When you come off, so do any "gains" sorry. No one comes off...ever. hth.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: Fastback on December 14, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
Your on HRT correct? So never coming off..
Run higher doses of test for about 12 weeks and add in the Anavar at the end

Save the deca until you have more.. A proper cycle would be something like 600mg for 20 weeks
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: tstmaniac on December 15, 2014, 03:56:53 AM
Thanks dick.

Anyway there is more to the question if u had an ounce of intelligence.   My thoughts were that if u were to choose anavar, at 50 mg, there will be more solid gains with less aggressive pct.   deca maybe more gains but more shut down and more water retention, but less lowering of hdl

Being shut down is shut down.. 500mgs test will shut you down completely so it doesn't matter what you else you take.. I personally like anavar a lot.. At this point it comes down to preference.. Test and anavar is a great mild stack
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: spiro on December 15, 2014, 05:21:24 AM
Pct  ::)  200 mg of deca  ::)  ten week cycle   ::)
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: tstmaniac on December 15, 2014, 08:46:06 AM
Pct  ::)  200 mg of deca  ::)  ten week cycle   ::)

What's wrong with either one of those? Not everyone on here is trying to be a pro athlete/bodybuilder? 500mgd a week gives is a good cycle with mild to 0 side effects.. 200mgs would be good to use along side for joint health..id prefer the anavar though
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: theworm on December 15, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Why would u choose the var?
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: tstmaniac on December 15, 2014, 09:26:03 PM
Why would u choose the var?

I have always gotten decent results from test and var with 0 sides
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: AbrahamG on December 16, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
Personally, I ran 555mg's of test and 250mg's of deca for 10 weeks.  Did keto diet with a Sunday binge.  30 minutes cardio (treadmill) daily and gained 21 pounds.  Started out at a relatively soft 218 and finished up
hard and veiny at 239.  Sometimes, less is more. 
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: Thong Maniac on December 16, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
Did u count cals? Im always curious if keto alone does the trick. I eat alot of meat, cream, etc but i dont lose weight even with less than 50g carbs per day.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: AbrahamG on December 16, 2014, 05:10:41 PM
Did u count cals? Im always curious if keto alone does the trick. I eat alot of meat, cream, etc but i dont lose weight even with less than 50g carbs per day.

No, every three hours I ate protein (40grams at least) and fat (15grams at least).  1 salad a day with whatever kind of low carb fatty dressing I felt like.  Protein sources were
whole eggs, sirloin burgers 85-15 or 90-10 split.  Tilapia or salmon.  Sometimes turkey kielbasa if I needed something different.  Protein powder is usually a cheap whey blend.  I'd
throw some occasional cheese into my eggs or even on my sirloin burger.  I also use a fiber supplement with my first meal of the day.  Fat sources were olive oil, peanut butter, almonds, cashews and
the fats that come with the eggs and beef.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: XFACTOR on December 16, 2014, 07:33:34 PM
I've always heard the opposite, near permanent gains with var vs water weight with deca

Lol @ " permanent gains" from juice. Why are some of you so stupid? This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: ritch on December 16, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
Lol @ " permanent gains" from juice. Why are some of you so stupid? This is ridiculous.

VERY true. Deca gives "longer lasting" gains as it stays in longer. All the stuff is temporary. I mean, why the hell else do we stay on then?
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: Mawse on December 16, 2014, 10:47:35 PM
You're using the words "PCT" and "Permanent gains" in the same universe...Lol.


When you come off, so do any "gains" sorry. No one comes off...ever. hth.

Yup, and you're shut down so it's a net loss.

200 deca 200 test is what I run , although I like 100 mast in there too. HRT +

Wouldn't consider it a cycle though unless you go double on each.
Title: Re: Test plus var or deca?
Post by: youandme on December 20, 2014, 06:34:18 AM
5 weeks screw that...the good stuff starts happening at week 8 for me when on var.