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I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?
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They partake in some form of buttfuckery.
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I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?
I get mine through a friend in the police force.
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There are no connections. Bodybuilding is just good, clean, healthy, heterosexual fun.
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i remember reading an interview by a supposed pro bodybuilder somewhere, where he said that wherever he went, he had guys trying to sell him gear. From a UGL's standpoint, it would make sense to give a pro bodybuilder cheap gear or free gear, because it would help to promote their brand. Pharma is also not that hard to get in Europe and Asia, if you know the right people. Some countries it's even OTC. How do celebrities like The Rock and Hugh Jackman get their juice? When you're at that level, you have hangers-on/ass-kissers willing to do anything for you. Kinda like how a famous person will walk into a club and someone will offer him coke and other party drugs. As always, the smart ones put several degrees of separation between themselves and the AAS; I highly doubt that Phil Heath keeps juice at his home (maybe some GH in the fridge lol). Injections are probably done at a friends/trainer's house. Just my 2cents
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Bodybuilders do drugs/steroids??? :-[
I thought it was all due to Weider Crash Weight Gain #7...
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i remember reading an interview by a supposed pro bodybuilder somewhere, where he said that wherever he went, he had guys trying to sell him gear. From a UGL's standpoint, it would make sense to give a pro bodybuilder cheap gear or free gear, because it would help to promote their brand. Pharma is also not that hard to get in Europe and Asia, if you know the right people. Some countries it's even OTC. How do celebrities like The Rock and Hugh Jackman get their juice? When you're at that level, you have hangers-on/ass-kissers willing to do anything for you. Kinda like how a famous person will walk into a club and someone will offer him coke and other party drugs. As always, the smart ones put several degrees of separation between themselves and the AAS; I highly doubt that Phil Heath keeps juice at his home (maybe some GH in the fridge lol). Injections are probably done at a friends/trainer's house. Just my 2cents
Thanks for your post. While I don't want specific names or places, it would be nice to get some basic details on how it really works.
Hmmm, I read and hear a lot about drug connections, and drug cycles in bodybuilding.
I was curious how it all actually works and I don't get much info on that?
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they come on getbig and make connections ;)
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Howard is a competitor and judge and doesn't know how guys score gear? This guy is a complete moron.
Pros get their gear like any other juicer. There is no special pro connection.
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I knew one very top pro. He got all of his shit from BALCO/Victor Conte. Conte gave it away for free! Legit shit, too.
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Some don't use drugs.
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I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?
LOL! This TOTALLY sounds like a post fishing for a drug source, dude. Even if it's just curiosity, it' totally not something to post about.
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I've talked to a few top amateurs and they get it like we all do. Either find a state side ugl or order it from china off the net.
Someone like Phil more then likley has ton of juicers that are more then willing to place orders for 20 kits and take all the risk just because he's Phil Heath.
There is no "special" dealer to the pros
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they don't pay for shit, it's all free. All of it.
Weren't you a judge before Horward? Surpirsed you're even asking this.
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I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?
from beef producing farmers ;)
;D
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Aspiring bodybuilders “had to find out sooner or later that the road to the title went through Dr. X’s office,” Michalik told the Village Voice in 1991. With the doctor’s lock on such high-end supplements as Primobolan and Parabolin, “nobody was gonna get to be competition size unless they put out for him.” In exchange for a stack of steroid scrips, Michalik brokered love connections for the doctor with a string of title hopefuls.
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Howard.
Go into any Hardcore Gym
(Most likely any gym will do)
Talk to, make friends, Without being Creepy,
Or Cop like behaviour.
Train hard, & fairly soon you will be speaking
To some that use & or sell.
Not Rocket science is it., Come on.
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LOL! This TOTALLY sounds like a post fishing for a drug source, dude. Even if it's just curiosity, it' totally not something to post about.
I do NOT want any specific sites or names.
I simply want a basic , generic outline of how it works.
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Howard is a competitor and judge and doesn't know how guys score gear? This guy is a complete moron.
Pros get their gear like any other juicer. There is no special pro connection.
It wasn't a big part of my personal bodybuilding life, so I'll admit to being clueless.
Hence, this thread topic.
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I've talked to a few top amateurs and they get it like we all do. Either find a state side ugl or order it from china off the net.
Someone like Phil more then likley has ton of juicers that are more then willing to place orders for 20 kits and take all the risk just because he's Phil Heath.
There is no "special" dealer to the pros
Good post. What's a ugl? Do you mean URL?
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Good post. What's a ugl? Do you mean URL?
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what? I honestly don't know what a ugl is? 100% serious.
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what? I honestly don't know what a ugl is? 100% serious.
There's a steroid board here at GB.
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what? I honestly don't know what a ugl is? 100% serious.
under ground lab
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No offense but this thread should be deleted. Fucking stupid to discuss this. This is the kinda stuff asked on BB.com, shouldn't be discussed on the G&O. Just my .02.
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It is interesting to think about.
These guys get kilos of raw powders through customs somehow, have some type of lab/facility to make it (hopefully), mail hundreds of packages month after month, and have to launder their money. Many seem to do it for years on end, too.
Is the law that inept or are these guys that good? Fascinating stuff, IMO
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It is interesting to think about.
These guys get kilos of raw powders through customs somehow, have some type of lab/facility to make it (hopefully), mail hundreds of packages month after month, and have to launder their money. Many seem to do it for years on end, too.
Is the law that inept or are these guys that good? Fascinating stuff, IMO
I find it interesting as well and that's why I started the thread.
" Breaking Bad" was a mega hit and very popular .
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Howard.
Go into any Hardcore Gym
(Most likely any gym will do)
Talk to, make friends, Without being Creepy,
Or Cop like behaviour.
Train hard, & fairly soon you will be speaking
To some that use & or sell.
Not Rocket science is it., Come on.
thats exactly how it happened to me when i was 16yrs old,i was lucky though cause my training partners older brother was a member of the gym for 5 years already and he had all the connects
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Send a $1,000 to arce, he will send you a complete cycle or your money back. :-X
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Send a $1,000 to arce, he will send you a complete cycle or your money back. :-X
lol, yes i heard hes a very reliable source :D
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lol, yes i heard hes a very reliable source :D
I am still waiting on my shipment. WU sent 2/8/2012. Should be here any day now.
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I'm no DEA agent and I'm not looking to score a major juice cycle.
I was just curious, how the drug dealer /client game works in modern , hardcore bodybuilding.
How do the pros get reliable cycles?
They usually hire a retired pro who has now become the hottest new guru and usually these guys have the connections with the "GOOD STUFF"
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I am still waiting on my shipment. WU sent 2/8/2012. Should be here any day now.
dont worry if there is a problem in customs he will do a reship for u,all u got to do is pay the postage.hes very honorable,i ordered off him back in 2008 and im still waiting also.but he told me mail has been slow the last 6 years and not to worry
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thats exactly how it happened to me when i was 16yrs old,i was lucky though cause my training partners older brother was a member of the gym for 5 years already and he had all the connects
Really, that simple 'eh?
I've had a few of my fellow meatheads approach me about needing some shit in various gyms over the years.
I used juice from 1983-1987 on moderate cycles and got mine directly from the gym owner.
It was legit stuff back then from mainstream drug companies, like Upjohn and Ciba Giegy.
Since I stopped using 27 yrs ago, I never bothered taking anyone up on their offer to "hook me up".
I figured with all new outlaw steroids labs, and internet traffic, the steroid dealing scene would be a lot different.
I'd be nervous taking anything made in some underground lab. That's the main reason I was always cautious with recreational drugs.
Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???
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Really, that simple 'eh?
I've had a few of my fellow meatheads approach me about needing some shit in various gyms over the years.
I used juice from 1983-1987 on moderate cycles and got mine directly from the gym owner.
It was legit stuff back then from mainstream drug companies, like Upjohn and Ciba Giegy.
Since I stopped using 27 yrs ago, I never bothered taking anyone up on their offer to "hook me up".
I figured with all new outlaw steroids labs, and internet traffic, the steroid dealing scene would be a lot different.
I'd be nervous taking anything made in some underground lab. That's the main reason I was always cautious with recreational drugs.
Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???
exactly man, i got my dbols from ciba-geigy labs that was right in north jersey,they also had a organon labs and still do in north jersey,back in early 80's it was so easy to get roids.almost as easy as going to the supermarket and buying eggnog,seriously that easy.i know u know howard cause u where on the scene back then,things have really changed for the worst though,really really changed 180 degrees it seems like
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Unless it comes from a legit drug company with real quality control , how do know it's safe and legit???
You don't. That's the risk all bodybuilders have to take. But let some other guys use a particular connect/product first... if they are still alive after a few weeks the stuff may be fairly safe.
It sucks having to deal with the black market but there's no other option.
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Thanks for your post. While I don't want specific names or places, it would be nice to get some basic details on how it really works.
Hmmm, I read and hear a lot about drug connections, and drug cycles in bodybuilding.
I was curious how it all actually works and I don't get much info on that?
Come on Howard. I'm 74 freakin years old, injured and have not set foot in a gym for several years. I get my HRT scrip from my Doc to cover my andropause. Millions of men do the same. Now if your Doc wont do this or insurance plan does not cover HRT then you go on line to look for it over seas and low and behold a treasure chest of anabolic steroids and HGH. So for kicks and giggles (I don't need this shit to surf my AARP and anti aging sites) I checked some of the well know on line BB sites that discuss "how to tell if its ligit". Then I confidentially asked some younger friends who still compete and that is how they get their shit and its real and safe from accredited highly rated foreign pharmaceutical houses. Then, if smart, they get several blood tests a year including kidney and liver functions, take a daily baby aspirin, and donate a pint of blood every 6 weeks.
So with some investigation, caution, it is easy, clean, real and available....cheaper than the Mega Mega Super Black Magic powders sold here and elsewhere.
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You don't. That's the risk all bodybuilders have to take. But let some other guys use a particular connect/product first... if they are still alive after a few weeks the stuff may be fairly safe.
It sucks having to deal with the black market but there's no other option.
Believe it or not, you've hit on my main beef with drug use within bodybuilding.
They are forced to deal with shady dealers and underground labs.
This was a direct result of making steroids a felony class drug back in 1990.
The bottom line is, a bodybuilder has no way of knowing if his juice is safe or legit.
You could piss away a lot of $$ on crap and have no recourse or back up!
Plus, you have to risk breaking the law too.
That's why I never used juice again, after I quit in 1987.
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exactly man, i got my dbols from ciba-geigy labs that was right in north jersey,they also had a organon labs and still do in north jersey,back in early 80's it was so easy to get roids.almost as easy as going to the supermarket and buying eggnog,seriously that easy.i know u know howard cause u where on the scene back then,things have really changed for the worst though,really really changed 180 degrees it seems like
It's like buying bootleg booze made in a bathtub , back in the days of prohibition LOL.
Unless I can get a legit product, count me out.
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It's like buying bootleg booze made in a bathtub , back in the days of prohibition LOL.
Unless I can get a legit product, count me out.
if u know a uroligist he can write u scripts also ;)my buddy has that connect with his doctor
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Believe it or not, you've hit on my main beef with drug use within bodybuilding.
They are forced to deal with shady dealers and underground labs.
This was a direct result of making steroids a felony class drug back in 1990.
The bottom line is, a bodybuilder has no way of knowing if his juice is safe or legit.
You could piss away a lot of $$ on crap and have no recourse or back up!
Plus, you have to risk breaking the law too.
That's why I never used juice again, after I quit in 1987.
Been using UG ever since man and the one time I got an infection, it was my fault. I refuse to believe you don't know someone who has a good ug connection having been in scene for so long and find it to be a very lame excuse. If the stuff was crap, nobody would buy it again. Good reps exchange products of clients not happy, people talk, if the stuff is shit, you're ruined...
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Come on Howard. I'm 74 freakin years old, injured and have not set foot in a gym for several years. I get my HRT scrip from my Doc to cover my andropause. Millions of men do the same. Now if your Doc wont do this or insurance plan does not cover HRT then you go on line to look for it over seas and low and behold a treasure chest of anabolic steroids and HGH. So for kicks and giggles (I don't need this shit to surf my AARP and anti aging sites) I checked some of the well know on line BB sites that discuss "how to tell if its ligit". Then I confidentially asked some younger friends who still compete and that is how they get their shit and its real and safe from accredited highly rated foreign pharmaceutical houses. Then, if smart, they get several blood tests a year including kidney and liver functions, take a daily baby aspirin, and donate a pint of blood every 6 weeks.
So with some investigation, caution, it is easy, clean, real and available....cheaper than the Mega Mega Super Black Magic powders sold here and elsewhere.
I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins
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Been using UG ever since man and the one time I got an infection, it was my fault. I refuse to believe you don't know someone who has a good ug connection having been in scene for so long and find it to be a very lame excuse. If the stuff was crap, nobody would buy it again. Good reps exchange products of clients not happy, people talk, if the stuff is shit, you're ruined...
Never had any desire to use drugs from an underground lab.
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I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins
just get a vial of the Test depot. I tried the androgel once and it just stinks like alcohol too badly and the absorption sucks. just pin it!
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I am on prescribed HRT with Androgel . It's safe, legit, and covered by my Health Ins
Androgel does not even lift me out of andropause. Even double dose. My blood tests tell me to take up knitting and watch Oprah on TV. My ins. covers Test Cyp inject with scrip. I can pee standing up again and pole vault outta bed every morning. And...I am again a loveable Ahole.
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That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.
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That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.
LOL, I always wondered what it would feel like to have an elephant jack off on me and now I know.
I love getbig.
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Androgel does not even lift me out of andropause. Even double dose. My blood tests tell me to take up knitting and watch Oprah on TV. My ins. covers Test Cyp inject with scrip. I can pee standing up again and pole vault outta bed every morning. And...I am again a loveable Ahole.
Experiences vary, that's for sure .
The Androgel works fine for me and keeps my test levels in the 600-700 mg/dl range.
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LOL, I always wondered what it would feel like to have an elephant jack off on me and now I know.
I love getbig.
I can tell you from experience elephant jizz is so much easier to wipe off than rhino jizz. Just saying.
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That androgel was disgusting. I felt like an elephant jacked off all over me after putting it on. I used to use 3-5X the amount and each time I got tested my levels were basically the same as before I used it. I have Anthem insurance and they covered my Watson test cyp for 7 years. Due to my blood issue I am off now but I would get a new 10ml bottle every month and my script read 1/2ml 2x a week. I did that for 7 years and they never said a word. I went to my urologist once a year to get blood work done. I would get off of it for 6-8 weeks prior so my levels would look normal when they tested me. If your doctor wont prescribe it, get a new doc. Simple as that.
What's your blood issue if I might ask? If not I respect your privacy. Mine is HRBC. Blood donations and baby aspirin keep my RBCs and hemo just into the safe levels. If I get lazy Doc wants to stop HRT and bleed me out right then and there. Thick blood is a real side possibility to Test supplementation.