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Title: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 07:28:55 AM
AND GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO GET 2ND PLACE.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:33:18 AM
agree. He should have done the arnold this year
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Post by: rufjunk on February 21, 2006, 07:43:21 AM
I think a point could be made that he should but i doubt Jay will skip it.

Jay will keep fighting no matter what, maybe this year is his year...

If not, at least he'll know that he gave it his all and he wasn't a quitter.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 21, 2006, 07:46:40 AM
AND GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO GET 2ND PLACE.
lol  yeah  the olympia is really stuck on stoopid aint it?
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigmikecox on February 21, 2006, 08:17:52 AM
You guys are funny.  Would any of you pass up a payday of 75k?  Didn;t think so.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Harry R. M. Pitts on February 21, 2006, 08:19:36 AM
he would make more doing the Arnold
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 08:19:44 AM
You guys are funny.  Would any of you pass up a payday of 75k?  Didn;t think so.
would you pass up a payday of well over 100k including a car and a 30k watch to get 2nd place and 75k at the olympia?
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Post by: Karl Kox on February 21, 2006, 08:21:15 AM
would you pass up a payday of well over 100k including a car and a 30k watch to get 2nd place and 75k at the olympia?

NO

and I would sale all that other shit
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 08:21:15 AM
he would make more doing the Arnold
yes.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigmikecox on February 21, 2006, 08:27:46 AM
would you pass up a payday of well over 100k including a car and a 30k watch to get 2nd place and 75k at the olympia?

Bottom line the Olympia cements your place in history, no matter how many ASC's you win.  Every bber's goal is to be Mr. O, not 4 time Arnold winner.  Besides, at this point he is chasing history, he has banck acct is nice and full.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: sarcasm on February 21, 2006, 08:28:56 AM
You guys are funny.  Would any of you pass up a payday of 75k?  Didn;t think so.
yeah, 75 k covers the yearly drug bill.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
Bottom line the Olympia cements your place in history, no matter how many ASC's you win.  Every bber's goal is to be Mr. O, not 4 time Arnold winner.  Besides, at this point he is chasing history, he has banck acct is nice and full.
of course, but he's not going to beat ronnie.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigmikecox on February 21, 2006, 08:34:33 AM
of course, but he's not going to beat ronnie.

No he's not, but he WILL win once Ronnie retires.  Dorian didn't beat Haney but he took over when he retired
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 21, 2006, 08:37:19 AM
flip the 'car' and the watch on ebay for cash
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 08:37:32 AM
No he's not, but he WILL win once Ronnie retires.  Dorian didn't beat Haney but he took over when he retired
yes but ronnie is not retired yet, which is why he should skip the olympia this year and give someone else a chance to get 2nd place, the whole jay bridesmaid shit is older than old.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Childish///AMG on February 21, 2006, 08:46:59 AM
How many times have you ever attended a contest, say power meet. But not competed for whatever reason. The person who won the bench press, pressed 20 pounds less than you do everyday.

You say to yourself, "I should have competed, and I more than likely would have won."

I say "J" should compete, because you never know who will win ???
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: sarcasm on February 21, 2006, 09:01:46 AM
How many times have you ever attended a contest, say power meet. But not competed for whatever reason. The person who won the bench press, pressed 20 pounds less than you do everyday.
You say to yourself, "I should have competed, and I more than likely would have won."
I say "J" should compete, because you never know who will win ???
translation-i went to a bench meet this last weekend and i saw a guy bench 165 and i do 185 all the time.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Tigerman on February 21, 2006, 09:24:37 AM
Jay should not skip the Olympia. He's the only one that is close to Ronnie and if by any chance Ronnie is way off (it can happen, he's a human being) Jay can win.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Big Worm on February 21, 2006, 10:00:45 AM
You guys are funny.  Would any of you pass up a payday of 75k?  Didn;t think so.

 I wouldn't,,But I know somebody, who's gonna miss over a $100,000.00 payday. (JAY)
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: delta9mda on February 21, 2006, 10:20:55 AM
oyu are telling him not to go to work? wtf?
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: alexxx on February 21, 2006, 10:25:42 AM
Jay should stop competing for 5 years. Take that period to rest and get his big ass waist down. Thenn he can make a comeback. I just don't like jay's physique at all.. looks like a bloated cow with no symetry...
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Shawn Ray on February 21, 2006, 10:30:48 AM
As a  Pro, competing is what you do.
Winning would be nice but staying on top of your game is number one. There can be only ONE winner, but what you do with losing determines what you gain from your mistakes.
We compete to win but reality is, the bigger the contest the tougher the competition. That doesn't mean you sit out until it hopefully gets easier or the Champion retires.
You do what you have to until it is time to move on in another direction.
Jay gets financially compensated inspite of losing.  Contracts, Prize Money, DVD's, T-shirts, Guest Posing, Photos, Seminars the works.
This my friend, is part of the success onstage.
He stops competing, the demand dries up and it's time to get a new job.
Out,
S. Ray
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: alexxx on February 21, 2006, 10:33:19 AM
Jay doesn't need a job. Money comes out of his ass! Besides i heard you know what its like $hawn!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Shawn Ray on February 21, 2006, 10:35:20 AM
 ;D :o ;D
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Post by: Rowtogrow on February 21, 2006, 10:47:35 AM
As a  Pro, competing is what you do.
Winning would be nice but staying on top of your game is number one. There can be only ONE winner, but what you do with losing determines what you gain from your mistakes.
We compete to win but reality is, the bigger the contest the tougher the competition. That doesn't mean you sit out until it hopefully gets easier or the Champion retires.
You do what you until it is time to move on in another direction.
Jay gets financially compensated inspite of losing.  Contracts, Prize Money, DVD's, T-shirts, Guest Posing, Photos, Seminars the works.
This my friend is par of the success onstage. He stops competing, the demand dries up and it's time to get a new job.
Out,
S. Ray

Spoken like a true champion shawn.  I see no reason Jay shouldn't compete.  #1 would be nice, but second to the most dominant Mr. O isn't bad either. ;D
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: HeartofSteel on February 21, 2006, 11:02:56 AM
Spoken like a true champion shawn.  I see no reason Jay shouldn't compete.  #1 would be nice, but second to the most dominant Mr. O isn't bad either. ;D


Damn right!

HOS
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigbalddaddy on February 21, 2006, 11:34:33 AM
Everyone knows what it's like to de-thrown the Mr.O, so in my opinion 2nd at the O may as well be 1st place!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Shawn Ray on February 21, 2006, 11:41:27 AM
Well, if you call taking home the most money Jay has ever made during an Olympia Weekend a reason to skip this year @ $100,000.00I'd like to sign up for that job!
$85,000.00 2nd Place
$10,000.00 VYO Tech Best Wheels
$5,000.00 Olympia Challenge Round
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: alexxx on February 21, 2006, 11:45:42 AM
how could he get best wheels award when his right leg was way smaller than his left?? plus branch warren had the best wheels of the show!!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigbalddaddy on February 21, 2006, 03:31:12 PM
Well, if you call taking home the most money Jay has ever made during an Olympia Weekend a reason to skip this year @ $100,000.00I'd like to sign up for that job!
$85,000.00 2nd Place
$10,000.00 VYO Tech Best Wheels
$5,000.00 Olympia Challenge Round

Exactly!!!  I'm sure at the end of the day when he cashed those checks, he forgot all about being 2nd place!!!  Last time I checked "Professional" athletes get paid for their profession which in this case is competing!  Ask the 15th place finisher how bad he would want Jays purse!!! 
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigbiceps on February 21, 2006, 03:50:11 PM
How does a pro like Jay Cutler make?  I mean you guys say he makes a good living by the money he makes in endorsements and prize money but how much does he lose in contest preparation.  Do his sponsors pay for all of the drugs, doctor visits, travel etc.  Or does he pay for all of that.  You guys say he doesn't need to work because he has a lot of money already.  But what do you guys think is a sufficient amount of money to retire with at a young age??

I'm not sure how much Jay has or what his investments are if he has somewhere around 2-3 million it isn't very much these days!

Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Double XL on February 21, 2006, 04:00:49 PM
2-3 million it isn't very much these days!
maybe to donald trump it isnt much, 3million is alot of money.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 04:01:59 PM
maybe to donald trump it isnt much, 3million is alot of money.

hell yeah. and even to trump, it's a lot of money.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: sgt. d on February 21, 2006, 06:05:05 PM
Well, if you call taking home the most money Jay has ever made during an Olympia Weekend a reason to skip this year @ $100,000.00I'd like to sign up for that job!
$85,000.00 2nd Place
$10,000.00 VYO Tech Best Wheels
$5,000.00 Olympia Challenge Round

shawn how are the hummer and other prizes going to be given out at the colorado pro?
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: 420 Diesel on February 21, 2006, 06:59:26 PM
hell yeah. and even to trump, it's a lot of money.
nah, he has a family to support, kids he'll need to put through college.  at his age, it's not enough to retire on. 
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:05:26 PM
I think jay shud do the olympia if it is the best BB show on earth then its gotta hav the best BBs
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: HRDCOR on February 21, 2006, 07:17:34 PM
I have often wondered why Jay doesnt do the Arnold , most pros I have spoken to beleive the Arnold is the number 1 show and event, and that it holds just about as much esteeme as the Olympia does now , plus the obvious fact of winning the money has to be taking into account , I would think making as much dosh as you can in this relativly short lasting and dangerous sport would be paramount, plus i think Jay would be beter of competting more than once a year , i think it would help his body and conditioning alot better !
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:22:18 PM
I have often wondered why Jay doesnt do the Arnold , most pros I have spoken to beleive the Arnold is the number 1 show and event, and that it holds just about as much esteeme as the Olympia does now , plus the obvious fact of winning the money has to be taking into account , I would think making as much dosh as you can in this relativly short lasting and dangerous sport would be paramount, plus i think Jay would be beter of competting more than once a year , i think it would help his body and conditioning alot better !

well he won the arnold three years in a row. he dosent need the money and the arnold dosent get the same standard off competitor (well not all of them at least) but i agree in that the arnold is a fairer better run show it just dosent hav the same prestige
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Post by: HRDCOR on February 21, 2006, 07:29:25 PM
Its funny you should say he doesnt need the money, cause it is not as though these guys are making millions and honestly a million bucks is not alot, I have a pretty good insight to what these guys make and I would have thought the opertunity to add to there income by a 100k odd would be a huge priority , but I guess he has his reasons , he could have gone on a created a legacy with the title like Ronnie has done with the Olympia .
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:33:28 PM
Its funny you should say he doesnt need the money, cause it is not as though these guys are making millions and honestly a million bucks is not alot, I have a pretty good insight to what these guys make and I would have thought the opertunity to add to there income by a 100k odd would be a huge priority , but I guess he has his reasons , he could have gone on a created a legacy with the title like Ronnie has done with the Olympia .

yeah i know they dont earn much in general but apparently jay is an exception to that rule. its just jay stated this in an interveiw recently as one of the reasons y hes doing the olympia over the arnold
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: HRDCOR on February 21, 2006, 07:40:07 PM
Actualy he may well be set up , doesnt he come from a wealthy back ground, something to do with consturction or something ??? he might well be legit in saying the dosh is not important !?dont see why he wouldnt be ??
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 21, 2006, 08:17:34 PM
why should he skip it ? he would be throwing away guranteed $.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 08:19:20 PM
and honestly a million bucks is not alot,


LOL please tell me what planet you live on...
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Post by: HRDCOR on February 21, 2006, 08:25:14 PM
Quote
LOL please tell me what planet you live on...


Ahh Planet earth , not planet "Beggelbonk" where you reside!!

A million bucks is fuck all , especialy if you want to live a opulant life like most pros think they can do, plus keep up all the payments for the expensive cars they lease , plus if you want money in the bank pass the age 35- 40 when most of the pros retire ,, a million bucks dosent go far , damm a good house will cost you half of that if not more , my family home is worth 1.2 mill !!!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 21, 2006, 08:30:54 PM
a million dollars is still enough to live a good life without ever working again, if your not an idiot with your money.
you wont be rich, but you wont have many worries either.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: ARMZ on February 21, 2006, 08:33:47 PM
Jay told me in march '05 he was taking a year off to let his body rest. I think Joe didnt let that happen. No match for Ronnie = less ticket sales
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Post by: candidate2025 on February 21, 2006, 08:40:44 PM
Jay told me in march '05 he was taking a year off to let his body rest. I think Joe didnt let that happen. No match for Ronnie = less ticket sales
gustavo gave ronnie more competition than jay did last year.....




and im a ronnie fan.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: RUDE BUOY on February 21, 2006, 08:44:38 PM
i dont know man i think this is personal for jay i mean what kinda of career can he call it if he cant beat ronnie?
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: MisterGX on February 22, 2006, 09:37:58 AM
of course, but he's not going to beat ronnie.
Never say never.  Anybody can be beat on any given day.  Remember, Ronnie didn't win the 1st round at last year's Olympia.

Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: MisterGX on February 22, 2006, 09:40:08 AM
;D :o ;D

Show him playa!! lol
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: MisterGX on February 22, 2006, 09:44:12 AM
How does a pro like Jay Cutler make?  I mean you guys say he makes a good living by the money he makes in endorsements and prize money but how much does he lose in contest preparation.  Do his sponsors pay for all of the drugs, doctor visits, travel etc.  Or does he pay for all of that.  You guys say he doesn't need to work because he has a lot of money already.  But what do you guys think is a sufficient amount of money to retire with at a young age??
I'm not sure how much Jay has or what his investments are if he has somewhere around 2-3 million it isn't very much these days!

When Jay guest posed at the Atlantic States in 2004, I had to pick him up from the Airport.  In talking with him, he was at the time just finishing a new home purchase and mentioning some other business ventures outside of bodybuilding.  Plain and simple--Jay is paid in full  & he could retire from bodybuilding if he wants.  He already has his future set---SMART BUSINESSMAN!!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Prime on February 22, 2006, 09:53:49 AM
you say jay shouldnt show up, but if he had of shown up in 2002 he would already have a sandow.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: The Viking on February 22, 2006, 10:15:03 AM
Why should Jay do the Arnold Classic???
He already won that show three times!!
He will not beat Colemanat the olympia, but will destroy the rest at the 2006 olympia.
Maybe he doesn`t need the money, but want`s to prove something (that he is the best next to Coleman).
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigbiceps on February 22, 2006, 10:21:30 AM
a million dollars is still enough to live a good life without ever working again, if your not an idiot with your money.
you wont be rich, but you wont have many worries either.
How much will the bank pay you for a million dollars??   A measly 20k a year.  If you have 2 houses for 500k each fully paid off.  One you live in and the other you rent that's about $2,000 a month and with that you need to pay you property taxes @ a 500k home (because you just  bought in todays prices) for both homes, cars, insurance, and all of the other utilities.  OH and then there is food and going out.  Do you think 1 million dollars can carry you along the way everything keeps rising and not ever have to work again.  I think not!!!!    
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2006, 10:24:21 AM
How much will the bank pay you for a million dollars??   A measly 20k a year.  If you have 2 for 500k fully paid off.  One you live in and the other you rent.  about $2,000 a month and with that you need to pay you property taxes @ a 500k home, cars, insurance, and all of the other utilities.  OH and then there is food and going out.  Do you think I million dollars can carry you along the way everything keeps rising and not ever have to work again.  I think not!!!!    

what bank do you go to that only gives 2% return per year?

Assuming you've very simple and buy a CD at 5%, that's still 50k a year to live on.

If you put it into mutuals and get semi-lucky at 10% you're now living on 100k a year

Or, use some to start a business, invest the rest, and break around 125k a year.

It ain't rocket science.  Once you earn $1M in cash you can cost/work part time, unless of course, you need to live in a million dollar home... which I don't think anyone NEEDS to do.

Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 22, 2006, 03:47:48 PM
How much will the bank pay you for a million dollars??   A measly 20k a year.  If you have 2 houses for 500k each fully paid off.  One you live in and the other you rent that's about $2,000 a month and with that you need to pay you property taxes @ a 500k home (because you just  bought in todays prices) for both homes, cars, insurance, and all of the other utilities.  OH and then there is food and going out.  Do you think 1 million dollars can carry you along the way everything keeps rising and not ever have to work again.  I think not!!!!    
::) this is why is mentioned 'not spending like an idiot'. something along the lines of buying two 500,000 houses
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: hillbilly on February 22, 2006, 03:51:18 PM
::) this is why is mentioned 'not spending like an idiot'. something along the lines of buying two 500,000 houses

or in the case of titus a fleet of cars with  large trunks
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigbiceps on February 22, 2006, 09:44:12 PM
Anything under 500k you get a manufactured home or a condo in SoCal.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Shawn Ray on February 22, 2006, 11:27:54 PM
And these are your next door neighbors!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: ARMZ on February 23, 2006, 01:11:08 AM
I don't even want to know what's on that guys face in the back.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: LAMA-PAI on February 23, 2006, 07:41:40 AM
the check is already made out to him ! why would he not do it !
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 23, 2006, 07:48:38 AM
i agree. he should skip it.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Tigerman on February 23, 2006, 09:48:37 AM
Never say never.  Anybody can be beat on any given day.  Remember, Ronnie didn't win the 1st round at last year's Olympia.
Wrong! Check the score sheets! Jay was closer than in other rounds but Ronnie won. He lost only against Gustavo in that joke called challenge round.
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: hillbilly on February 23, 2006, 09:53:49 AM
Wrong! Check the score sheets! Jay was closer than in other rounds but Ronnie won. He lost only against Gustavo in that joke called challenge round.

Are they getting rid of the challenge round this year? i hope so!
Title: Re: JAY SHOULD SKIP THE OLYMPIA
Post by: Tigerman on February 23, 2006, 10:10:04 AM
Are they getting rid of the challenge round this year? i hope so!
Yes! No more challenge round.