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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Cleanest Natural on December 28, 2014, 12:07:49 AM
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Still in shape
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Still in shape
Bit of a strange picture and pose, slimmed down and looks in good health.
Smart enough to quit at the right time, went as far as he could with his body. Didn't hang around too long trying to chase a plastic trophy.
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Legs look strange. Also, why are his shoulders completely gone?
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"one small change"
yes I think we all know what the change is
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Another satisfied customer. Good work, CN.
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That's about as good as it gets whilest clean, he's still at least 2 heaths wide, us tall fellows are still specimens whilest clean, the manlets are doomed
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That's about as good as it gets whilest clean, he's still at least 2 heaths wide, us tall fellows are still specimens whilest clean, the manlets are doomed
cLean? I doubt that! -20 pound, then clean! He is 50+ no natural testo, would look like complete garabe without gear! Shoulders are wide, bodybuildingpeople are delusional!
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Weird shins/lowerlegs, but he is holding it together well.
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Wider than Heath.
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And still a decent pair of triceps, normally they vanish with age...
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He got some genetic defect on his legs/knee/ankel/foot, walking like a cow. Did it even on Mr O in the glory years...
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Weird shins/lowerlegs
we are going to see an entire generation of pro BBers that look just like this. thick arm and leg bones, crazy hands, giant heads... zero shoulders, abnormally long necks. Arms will still look good, but the rest of them will be a weird deformed combination of elongated bones and "no muscle" where there used to be lots of it. Shoulders and quads lose the most, and that's where they make their most gains from AAS, receptor rich areas.
Glad to see he's healthy, he always seemed like a great guy and was very nice to fans. Jay will look like this eventually, as will most of the early 2000s guys that got big. The 90s guys have escaped it... wheeler, shawn ray just look like normal people. But the 2000s group that abused the shit out of insulin, igf-1, growth hormone and really pushed it - they're going to look very weird once they return to normal life.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=561909.0;attach=592532;image)
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First time I see saggy calves
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Dude at least managed to get a feminine wife, unlike most of these mentally ill weirdos, with androgynous creatures they call "woman".
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=43453&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Beautiful lady. And 10 years younger. way to go.
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1800354_745218575547748_274931402600642699_n.jpg?oh=fd0ca548e46341a8430d959e5ebd1381&oe=552DD9EC)
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Gunter looks very well, one of the very few retired pros who looks younger than his acutal age (dude must be at least mid 40s and looks like he's in his mid 30s)
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Dude at least managed to get a feminine wife, unlike most of these mentally ill weirdos, with androgynous creatures they call "woman".
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=43453&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Beautiful lady. And 10 years younger. way to go.
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1800354_745218575547748_274931402600642699_n.jpg?oh=fd0ca548e46341a8430d959e5ebd1381&oe=552DD9EC)
I would absolutely not hit her! Its pretty clear she have very bad genetics for skinn! Its not fresh, nice, shiny! Its dead! NO luster, nor ruberish! Best skin I have experienced have been on a latina, filipina and a negro! Amazing skin, like dolls, no flaws whatso ever!
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Gunter looks very well, one of the very few retired pros who looks younger than his acutal age (dude must be at least mid 40s and looks like he's in his mid 30s)
U dont really know how to look at peoples age do u! Lose skinn in the troath. Face deplated. Legs of a 70 year old man...and u talking about 30ies...people dont know shit!
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Decent pair of guns. Decent hair, looks healthy and happy.
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Kinda looked like Navy Mike for a second
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Gunter is 6'1 or 6'2
But that pic makes him look like he is 5'5
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Still in shape
Tier 5. Bay no likey. :-X
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wow
great looking ex pro
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Without gear he lost say....70 lbs of muscle?
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Looks like all he's got left is arms. Obviously he's much healthier but he looks really weird slimmed down this much
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Gunter is 6'1 or 6'2
But that pic makes him look like he is 5'5
His torso looks like it belongs to a +6ft man but the legs look like they belong to someone who's barely 5ft. :D
It's probably just the angle and the loose hanging shirt though.
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hot girlfriend. So do you think he is totally off exogenous test or on TRT?
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Man o' man, look at those cankles!
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He's been tapering down in size for years, id say he's clean, I would imagine he'd carry more mass on trt
He's always had weird calves, like Ronny and wolf
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yeah I would say he is not using anything by the look of him and he looks happy too!
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Man o' man, look at those cankles!
He always had them
(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/11/58/85/65/01205713.jpg)
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Man o' man, look at those cankles!
So you would not hit?
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So you would not hit?
those are absolutely abhorrent.
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those are absolutely abhorrent.
You're a selective person, and I believe that's a good thing.
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You're a selective person, and I believe that's a good thing.
;D
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Contrary to popular belief, the Triceps do not diminish so fast with age. The Quads do.
As far as why his shoulders/delts are smaller?
Easy.
Delts are a tell-tale sign of AAS usage. They have the most receptor sites of any other muscle group (per capita) in the body. Why? Because they are so fucking dense. The delts, traps and neck.
When someone is juicing really heavily, the first areas that really stand up and take notice are the delts, traps and neck.
The Triceps can stay forever. So can the biceps. Yes, they will get smaller, but not anywhere near the rate of the diminishing quads and delts.
Calves are a completely different story.
You either have them or you don't. If you have them genetically, you're still gonna have them clean, although a bit smaller.
If you've never had them genetically, all the PED's in the world are NOT going to help the situation.
It is what it is...
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Team Guntermania!
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"When someone is juicing really heavily, the first areas that really stand up and take notice are the delts, traps and neck. "
... and forearms too.
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Still in shape
I like Gunther....met the guy at the Arnold 7yrs ago and he's a calm and approachable dude. Good to see he's still in nice shape and he's going for the health look....Good for you Gunther, there is a lot more to live for beyond bodybuilding....at least he's not having double hip surgery and think he can come back and win the Olympia......
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I like Gunther....met the guy at the Arnold 7yrs ago and he's a calm and approachable dude. Good to see he's still in nice shape and he's going for the health look....Good for you Gunther, there is a lot more to live for beyond bodybuilding....at least he's not having double hip surgery and think he can come back and win the Olympia......
I agree. At least Gunter has manned up and accepted the challenge of reality with a smile. I wish him all the best, including his marriage.
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Gunter looks very well, one of the very few retired pros who looks younger than his acutal age (dude must be at least mid 40s and looks like he's in his mid 30s)
This,
Wiki says Gunther's 44 and looks way better than the average men of his age. So what is it? Genetics or hung up the thong when the time was right?
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Contrary to popular belief, the Triceps do not diminish so fast with age. The Quads do.
As far as why his shoulders/delts are smaller?
Easy.
Delts are a tell-tale sign of AAS usage. They have the most receptor sites of any other muscle group (per capita) in the body. Why? Because they are so fucking dense. The delts, traps and neck.
When someone is juicing really heavily, the first areas that really stand up and take notice are the delts, traps and neck.
The Triceps can stay forever. So can the biceps. Yes, they will get smaller, but not anywhere near the rate of the diminishing quads and delts.
Calves are a completely different story.
You either have them or you don't. If you have them genetically, you're still gonna have them clean, although a bit smaller.
If you've never had them genetically, all the PED's in the world are NOT going to help the situation.
It is what it is...
A lot of wisdom here, but I see too many examples of guys who lose their triceps almost completely; Arnold, Lou, Ronnie, Dorian, Roland and even Jay on a relative young age. If -yes if- the triceps can stay forever, then what would be the best strategy to keep them? Performing pushing and extending movements with higher rep ranges, less volume/frequency???
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Looks like no chest
but massive head now. .nice looking wife tho.
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U dont really know how to look at peoples age do u! Lose skinn in the troath. Face deplated. Legs of a 70 year old man...and u talking about 30ies...people dont know shit!
Hail Ceasar! 30ies? Pfft. That 70 year-old man has the losest skinn troath and face deplation I ever saw. Good eye, sir.
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cLean? I doubt that! -20 pound, then clean! He is 50+ no natural testo, would look like complete garabe without gear! Shoulders are wide, bodybuildingpeople are delusional!
Does it matter if he is using some HRT? Fuk no. Who cares? I don't.
The guy looks a lot better then most former pros in most sports. Win for Gunter.
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cLean? I doubt that! -20 pound, then clean! He is 50+ no natural testo, would look like complete garabe without gear! Shoulders are wide, bodybuildingpeople are delusional!
He's 44. He'll be 45 in Feb.
Beautiful lady. And 10 years younger. way to go.
Kim is 41
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That's about as good as it gets whilest clean, he's still at least 2 heaths wide, us tall fellows are still specimens whilest clean, the manlets are doomed
Fuck you you goony queer.
PM me your girl's number and see if she comes back after feeling a real dick.
-5'7" Tom
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Legs look strange. Also, why are his shoulders completely gone?
for the same reason everything else has completely gone.
LMAO at the picture.
"And remember kids, they re all 160 lbs without the juice. All of them."
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/gunter5.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/114/images/Gunter_Schlierkamp%20%28124%29.jpg)
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And a real good dude. Very friendly and approachable. Signs every autograph, takes every picture requested of him. One of the nicer bodybuilders from the 1990's- 2000+.
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OMG, looks horrible.
Would rather have my look which I can maintain and never shrink down from than be all hulk like one day, then sub par the next.
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A good run:
1990 German Championships Overall Winner
1990 German Championships 1st, Junior Tall
1992 European Amateur Championships 1st, IFBB, HeavyWeight
1992 German Championships 1st, Heavyweight
1993 World Amateur Championships - IFBB 1st, HeavyWeight
1994 Grand Prix England - IFBB 8th
1994 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB 8th
1994 Mr. Olympia - IFBB 19th
1995 Canada Pro Cup - IFBB 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB 10th
1996 Arnold Classic - IFBB 11th
1996 Night of Champions - IFBB 11th
1996 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB 9th
1997 Canada Pro Cup - IFBB 6th
1997 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB Disqualified
1997 Night of Champions - IFBB 9th
1997 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB 11th
1998 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB 6th
1998 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB 6th
1998 Night of Champions - IFBB 10th
1998 Mr. Olympia - IFBB 15th
1998 San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB 9th
1998 Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB 6th
1999 Arnold Classic - IFBB 9th
1999 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB 5th
2000 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB 4th
2000 Arnold Classic - IFBB 6th
2000 JOE WEIDER'S WORLD PRO CUP 6th
2000 Grand Prix England 4th
2000 Mr. Olympia 12th
2001 Toronto Pro 6th
2001 Night of Champions XXIII 9th
2001 Mr. Olympia 15th
2001 British Grand Prix 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia 5th
2002 GNC Show of Strength 1st
2003 Mr. Olympia 5th
2003 English Grand Prix 3rd
2003 Holland Grand Prix 4th
2003 GNC Show of Strength 5th
2004 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 4th
2004 Mr. Olympia 6th
2005 Mr. Olympia 4th
2006 Mr. Olympia 10th
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Dexter Jacksons competitive history :o :o
1992 NPC Southern States, Lightweight, 3rd
1995 NPC USA Championships, Light-Heavyweight, 1st
1996 NPC Nationals, Light-Heavyweight, 6th
1998 North American Championships, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st and Overall
1999 Arnold Classic, 7th
1999 Grand Prix England, 4th
1999 Night of Champions, 3rd
1999 Mr. Olympia, 9th
1999 World Pro Championships, 4th
2000 Arnold Classic, 5th
2000 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
2000 Ironman Pro Invitational, 3rd
2000 Night of Champions, 8th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2000 Toronto Pro Invitational, 2nd
2001 Arnold Classic, 5th
2001 Grand Prix Australia, 3rd
2001 Grand Prix England, 4th
2001 Grand Prix Hungary, 3rd
2001 Night of Champions, 2nd
2001 Mr. Olympia, 8th
2001 Toronto Pro Invitational, 2nd
2002 Arnold Classic, 3rd
2002 Grand Prix Australia, 2nd
2002 Grand Prix Austria, 2nd
2002 Grand Prix England, 1st
2002 Grand Prix Holland, 3rd
2002 Mr. Olympia, 4th
2002 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 3rd
2002 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 6th
2003 Arnold Classic, 4th
2003 Maximum Pro Invitational, 3rd
2003 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
2003 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 3rd
2003 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 1st
2004 Arnold Classic, 3rd
2004 Grand Prix Australia, 1st
2004 Ironman Pro Invitational, 1st
2004 Mr. Olympia, 4th
2004 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 1st
2005 Arnold Classic, 1st
2005 San Francisco Pro Invitational, 2nd
2006 Arnold Classic, 1st
2006 Mr. Olympia, 4th
2007 Arnold Classic, 2nd
2007 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
2008 Arnold Classic, 1st
2008 IFBB Australian Pro Grand Prix VIII, 1st
2008 IFBB New Zealand Grand Prix, 1st
2008 IFBB Russian Grand Prix, 1st
2008 Mr. Olympia, 1st
2009 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
2010 Arnold Classic, 4th
2010 IFBB Australian Pro Grand Prix, 2nd
2010 Mr. Olympia, 4th
2011 Flex Pro, 2nd
2011 Mr. Olympia, 6th
2011 FIBO Pro, 1st
2011 Pro Masters World Champion, 1st
2012 Arnold Classic, 5th
2012 Mr. Olympia, 4th
2012 IFBB Masters Olympia, 1st
2013 Arnold Classic, 1st
2013 IFBB Australian Pro Grand Prix, 1st
2013 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2013 EVLS Prague Pro, 2nd
2013 Tijuana Pro, 1st
2014 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2014 Arnold Classic Europe, 3rd
2014 Dubai Pro, 1st
2014 Prague Pro, 2nd
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How about that "win" over Coleman???
Go Gunter!!!
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(https://www.gunters.net/gunterresumelarge.gif)
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He was walking in front of me with his wife, the day after the 2006 Olympia, through the Paris Casino. He was one big dude. His wife was beautiful and they appeared to be really good, decent people. Unlike the female IFBB Mutant I saw earlier wandering through the casino(hairline gone, DLB bloated face, flat ass, etc...). He got out of the game just in time.
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He was walking in front of me with his wife, the day after the 2006 Olympia, through the Paris Casino. He was one big dude. His wife was beautiful and they appeared to be really good, decent people. Unlike the female IFBB Mutant I saw earlier wandering through the casino(hairline gone, DLB bloated face, flat ass, etc...). He got out of the game just in time.
we ll see...appearance wise he s healthier now, but who knows what happened inside.
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True... one will never know until it's too late.
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How about that "win" over Coleman???
Go Gunter!!!
He took down the champ serving up a serious owning for the ages!
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we ll see...appearance wise he s healthier now, but who knows what happened inside.
You might get a heart attack for being so bitter all the time... and being a 'natural' twink won't save you from this.
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You might get a heart attack for being so bitter all the time... and being a 'natural' twink won't save you from this.
Bitter as fuck, right?
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You might get a heart attack for being so bitter all the time... and being a 'natural' twink won't save you from this.
That'd justify his prsonal decisions (if some of these guys die/have health issues). We are all biased, it's normal.
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Bitter as fuck, right?
Yes, which is pretty sad for a highly intelligent individual. Becoming more positive would def help him.
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Yes, which is pretty sad for a highly intelligent individual. Becoming more positive would def help him.
You can't be very positive if life has fucked you in some ways. some are more prone to negativity, some less, it's individual.
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/gunter5.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/114/images/Gunter_Schlierkamp%20%28124%29.jpg)
He used to be tier 4.
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OMG, looks horrible.
Would rather have my look which I can maintain and never shrink down from than be all hulk like one day, then sub par the next.
"Never shrink down"
That's cause u are small to begin with :D ;D
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i'd like to hear what Tito24 has to say about Gunter's new look.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=561909.0;attach=592532;image)
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You can't be very positive if life has fucked you in some ways. some are more prone to negativity, some less, it's individual.
Very true, certain life experiences make it challenging to stay positive. I can only hope that he's aware of his mental state, since that's required to make a change.
i'd like to hear what Tito24 has to say about Gunter's new look.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=561909.0;attach=592532;image)
"Would love to meet him and introduce him to my son"
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Very true, certain life experiences make it challenging to stay positive. I can only hope that he's aware of his mental state, since that's required to make a change.
Some stuff may be unchangeable... and it makes it even worse. Or... one has to accept the good and bad, and just not think about "life" in general as something overly important.
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"Would love to meet him and introduce him to my son"
yeah but would Tito24 approve of the great Gunter just training for cuts these days?
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Name any great artist, author, filmmaker, comedian etc that doesn't have problem with depressions, regrets and being negative! Every smart people who see more than other get depressed! Why does every great artist drink and do drugs? They need something to make their senses less functional. Its like superman, the movie, when he just see/hear/feel everything and goes crazy!
Negative people are never wrong! They say part of the truth witch often are forgotten!
FUCK YEAH! SPELLCHECK! JACKPOTT! No missspelled word :D
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Still in shape
Looks like Tony Romo
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Looks very healthy, good for him. Always liked Gunter
-German (white)
- hot wife
-great smile
-role model for us 6'1-6'2 guys
-defeated Ronnie at GNC show
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Bicep looking great but he looks kinda stupid without the thick neck.
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Gunter's head is ginormous!
GH side effects running wild
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strange calves. kind of like Ronnies
he tore a bunch of muscles like Ronnie too. Both quads I believe
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Fuck you you goony queer.
PM me your girl's number and see if she comes back after feeling a real dick.
-5'7" Tom
I'm sorry for your disability, one day they will have a cure for men such as your self...until then, walk tall brother
Ritch and uberman should hook up, they are a deadly negative duo, they could turn any smile upside down..i would pay money to listen to them interview any current or past ifbb pro, would be ground braking stuff possibly bordering on genius...
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"When someone is juicing really heavily, the first areas that really stand up and take notice are the delts, traps and neck. "
... and forearms too.
Good observation.
Phil Heath will look like a twink ( bellow average gym goer) off the sauce.
Due to such reason.
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Good observation.
Phil Heath will look like a twink ( bellow average gym goer) off the sauce.
Due to such reason.
(http://muscle.iuhu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/phil-heath-before-bodybuilding-teen-years.jpg)
probably still a damn sight better than you would look on 5g of gear ;D
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(http://muscle.iuhu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/phil-heath-before-bodybuilding-teen-years.jpg)
probably still a damn sight better than you would look on 5g of gear ;D
back at that time, BayGBM should have been a muscle scout for the IFBB. Bay would have noticed Phil's genetics and sent him to North Korea to train in a forced muscle camp.
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I'm sorry for your disability, one day they will have a cure for men such as your self...until then, walk tall brother
Ritch and uberman should hook up, they are a deadly negative duo, they could turn any smile upside down..i would pay money to listen to them interview any current or past ifbb pro, would be ground braking stuff possibly bordering on genius...
We would be unstopeable!!! But could care less to interview some washed up pro who I look better even before using gear....
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We would be unstopeable!!! But could care less to interview some washed up pro who I look better even before using gear....
Cement your bond with a manly horse back ride up a mountain...
I love both of your views on the world, keep up the good work...
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Cement your bond with a manly horse back ride up a mountain...
I love both of your views on the world, keep up the good work...
NOhting better than being recognized and congratulated for one's good work. Your positivity will be noted and reflected upon my posts!
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(http://muscle.iuhu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/phil-heath-before-bodybuilding-teen-years.jpg)
probably still a damn sight better than you would look on 5g of gear ;D
Nothing to brag about for someone "named" the best bodybuilder in the planet. (according to the IFBB anyway)
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Gunter looks great and healthy. Only in bodybuilding are former pro's measured against their best selves by the fans. Imagine people talking shit on Mohamed Ali because he can't box like he used to? Bodybuilding at an elite level can only be done for so long before the body stops making progress. Gunter at his best was an absolute monster and shredded he has nothing to prove, meanwhile this thread is loaded with internet trolls who don't have enough muscle to win a novice class show in bumblefuck nowhere.
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Gunter looks great and healthy. Only in bodybuilding are former pro's measured against their best selves by the fans. Imagine people talking shit on Mohamed Ali because he can't box like he used to? Bodybuilding at an elite level can only be done for so long before the body stops making progress. Gunter at his best was an absolute monster and shredded he has nothing to prove, meanwhile this thread is loaded with internet trolls who don't have enough muscle to win a novice class show in bumblefuck nowhere.
Problem with bodybuilding is that it's a 100 % "exposure/vanity/looks" activity and nothing more , so comparing the way you look now, with the way you used to look when you became famous or awarded for at some point will always be inevitable .
In Boxing you can look like shit but if you're a talented boxer it doesn't matter
Besides, People would've talked shit about Ali had he kept boxing way past his prime.
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cLean? I doubt that! -20 pound, then clean! He is 50+ no natural testo, would look like complete garabe without gear! Shoulders are wide, bodybuildingpeople are delusional!
Fucking no way he could be clean huh man... I mean if he was totally clean he would look pathetic like you huh?? Why dont you pathetic bitches just accept that you got fucked on genetics? Its OK dude.. Not everyone has it... May be a stretch to say you can't look better than you do but you couldn't look like us - big deal.. Dont be such a pussy and whine like a girl though - that's gay...
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yeah I would say he is not using anything by the look of him and he looks happy too!
Exactly - but losers like Julio Cesar like to vent their frustrations for never having achieved anything..
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not sure whether Gunter was still competing at the time of this pic or else it was taken not too long after his final Olympia appearance.
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/ifbb-pro/1581-gunter-schlierkamp-early.jpg)
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Nah he wasn't competing at this point
not sure whether Gunter was still competing at the time of this pic or else it was taken not too long after his final Olympia appearance.
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/ifbb-pro/1581-gunter-schlierkamp-early.jpg)
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Fucking no way he could be clean huh man... I mean if he was totally clean he would look pathetic like you huh?? Why dont you pathetic bitches just accept that you got fucked on genetics? Its OK dude.. Not everyone has it... May be a stretch to say you can't look better than you do but you couldn't look like us - big deal.. Dont be such a pussy and whine like a girl though - that's gay...
Well done.... Epic genetic backfires love to bath in the myth that all responders will look like Tom prince when clean, gyms are full of buff men ( no homo ) who put away the needles as they got older
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Nah he wasn't competing at this point
yet still proud of the guns at a bodybuilding expo, about a year after his top ten finish at the Olympia.
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Gunter also was the only guy to beat Ronnie in his Prime....
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And a real good dude. Very friendly and approachable. Signs every autograph, takes every picture requested of him. One of the nicer bodybuilders from the 1990's- 2000+.
I used to see him at "The coffee bean" in Marina Del Rey like 10 years ago...Dude was super cool...always talking and joking. Cool dude
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I know this is redundant;
However, I'm still always blown away by how small these guys are off the gear-
Unreal...
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I want to tongue Kim's shitter.
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just the finishing touch, brah.
fucking complete transformation