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http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/28/7456993/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-quarterback-2015
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Kid sucks and has mental problems, I hop he's gone from the league and is a bigger bust than Tony Mandarich with Joe Weiders head on his body...
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Waste of a draft pick. Prior to the 2014 draft, the Browns spent $100,000 on a study to see who was the best QB in the draft. The study showed that Teddy Bridgewater was the best available QB. But, the Browns owner decided to draft Manziel instead because a homeless man said he should.
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Johnny was one hell of a college QB and is a legend in CFB, but he just doesn't have the skillset or mindset to make it in the NFL. Just like Vince Young, both peaked in college and never lived up to their potential. Shaw looked way better today than Manziel has all year and we all know Hoyer isn't the Browns QB of the future.
The Browns have a lot of young talent on that team, especially the defensive side of the ball, but they need a coach who will whip them into shape and let them grow into adults. A Pete Carroll/Jim Harbaugh/Mike Tomlin type coach would be perfect for them.
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He will get cut. He's a terrible player, and egomaniac, and overall dickhead.
Would love to see Manziel and Tebow get a TV show together. Kind of a new version of "perfect strangers" where they both train to get back into the NFL while living in a small 2 bedroom loft in NYC. Train all day, and social awkwardness at night,
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Spoiled by mommy and daddy.
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He will get cut. He's a terrible player, and egomaniac, and overall dickhead.
Would love to see Manziel and Tebow get a TV show together. Kind of a new version of "perfect strangers" where they both train to get back into the NFL while living in a small 2 bedroom loft in NYC. Train all day, and social awkwardness at night,
Is Johnny "Balke"? Were getting old Rob. Perfect Strangers reference?
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Johnny was one hell of a college QB and is a legend in CFB, but he just doesn't have the skillset or mindset to make it in the NFL. Just like Vince Young, both peaked in college and never lived up to their potential. Shaw looked way better today than Manziel has all year and we all know Hoyer isn't the Browns QB of the future.
The Browns have a lot of young talent on that team, especially the defensive side of the ball, but they need a coach who will whip them into shape and let them grow into adults. A Pete Carroll/Jim Harbaugh/Mike Tomlin type coach would be perfect for them.
Wrong! Go back and look at my posts. LSU unloads pro quality defenders every year, despite a moron head/defensive coord coach. Now. go see what he did against their defenses which ran pro formations vs other SEC schools. They made him look avg in 2 games while he was going wild on the rest of the SEC.
Black guys who don't like to learn the playbooks and privileged white boys can't lead men. And i don't even watch the nfl anymore.
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Privileged whites .... can't lead men ? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH ;D
Whitey conquered the world
Whitey allowed the civil rights movement -MADE IT HAPPEN
Whitey has nice neighborhoods - don't get burned down by other whites
Whitey excels in schools, doesn't need or get every advantage under the sun, and still cry about unequal achievement in life
Whitey marries at a much higher rate- talking about a FATHER in the home
Whitey doesn't commit an unproportional amount of crimes against the "brothas"
Whitey isn't 15 % of the pop. committing 1/2 of all crimes or more
Whitey started, bulit, ORGANIZED EVERY sport in the world ! ( Meaning it takes creativity and mental capacity )
I could go on FOREVER about privileged white people... blacks couldn't make it without privileged whites - FACT
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Go back and look at my posts.
Ok I'm on it.
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Is Johnny "Balke"? Were getting old Rob. Perfect Strangers reference?
Yes indeed. Manziel would totally be Balki. Tebow would be the anal retentive roomie that acts surprised and offended all day, stopping to do a tebowing pose, whenever Manziel did some boneheaded thing like impregnating twin supermodels on the same night, or incurring huge gambling losses with local bookies. But they'd always find ways to use their unique gifts to solve the problem, save the day, learn a lesson, and have a few laughs in the process.
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Well of course it is don't be redickulus.
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Yes indeed. Manziel would totally be Balki. Tebow would be the anal retentive roomie that acts surprised and offended all day, stopping to do a tebowing pose, whenever Manziel did some boneheaded thing like impregnating twin supermodels on the same night, or incurring huge gambling losses with local bookies. But they'd always find ways to use their unique gifts to solve the problem, save the day, learn a lesson, and have a few laughs in the process.
Life was so simple then.
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Life was so simple then.
agrred, good simple times. we were children. now we are men.
would love to see Larry & Balki host the 2015 Olympia.
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Kid sucks and has mental problems, I hop he's gone from the league and is a bigger bust than Tony Mandarich with Joe Weiders head on his body...
While Mandarich didn't live up to the hype, he did play 6 years in the NFL.
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Hope not. I loved seeing him get killed on the field.
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Hope not. I loved seeing him get killed on the field.
someone will sign him. DAL will make him 3rd string QB, just to be able to collect the jersey sales $ (The NFL's revenue-sharing system is set up for all teams but the Dallas Cowboys).
He's a hometown hero in DAL and would probably never start, but he's enough of a personality, and they like the drama there.
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Funny thing is he doesn't have the money people would think he has. The " family money" claim people make isn't true, the way his family obtained the wealth they have is due to an insurance settlement given when his grandfathers small construction company, which was going bust, conveniently had all its equipment vandalized and set fire to. That came from the mouth of the man who worked at the insurance company that sold the policy. Foul play was suspected but never proven.
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As the 22nd pick in the draft, Johnny Football gets about 7.8 million guaranteed money even if he never plays again...What a joke...Jadeveon Clowney the number 1 pick in the draft got 22 million guaranteed money and he can't stay on the field...Stop giving these rookies so much guaranteed money!
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As the 22nd pick in the draft, Johnny Football gets about 7.8 million guaranteed money even if he never plays again...What a joke...Jadeveon Clowney the number 1 pick in the draft got 22 million guaranteed money and he can't stay on the field...Stop giving these rookies so much guaranteed money!
I agree but with Clowney it wasn't his fault. He's going to have rough time coming back though.
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Gonna be a long offseason for Johnny :'(
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Gonna be a long offseason for Johnny :'(
skip hears plenty that cannot go out on the air. "Johnny hamstring vomiting before practice" can't make it to the air, but do it 15 times in a season, and we realize he's drinking out of control.
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As the 22nd pick in the draft, Johnny Football gets about 7.8 million guaranteed money even if he never plays again...What a joke...Jadeveon Clowney the number 1 pick in the draft got 22 million guaranteed money and he can't stay on the field...Stop giving these rookies so much guaranteed money!
they actually get much less than they used to
i think jamarcus russel got around 50 million
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He will get cut. He's a terrible player, and egomaniac, and overall dickhead.
Would love to see Manziel and Tebow get a TV show together. Kind of a new version of "perfect strangers" where they both train to get back into the NFL while living in a small 2 bedroom loft in NYC. Train all day, and social awkwardness at night,
And to top it off they should be mentored by ryan leaf
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Manziel denied that he had a party on Friday.....Jeez, thanks for clarifying this, Midget.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
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Manziel denied that he had a party on Friday.....Jeez, thanks for clarifying this, Midget.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
The Browns should have cut Josh Gordon immediately.
Pussy organization.
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Manziel denied that he had a party on Friday.....Jeez, thanks for clarifying this, Midget.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
This kid is going to fuck himself right out of a good thing if he doesn't straighten up. Ryan Leaf all over again.
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they actually get much less than they used to
i think jamarcus russel got around 50 million
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Ya it was silly money just a couple years ago for guys who never stepped on the field...
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And to top it off they should be mentored by ryan leaf
that's be hilarious. i would totally watch that show.
I'm picturing Johnny manziel feeding xcstacy to the runaway whores in Tim Tebow's community outreach group meetings. Tebow jerking off 75 times a day as scantily clad broads oil wrestle as Manziel snorts blow off of their Heisman trophy case.
"HEISMAN HOUSE". Perfect title.
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Another example of just how different the NFL is from college.. I do not believe his skillset will ever translate to the league.. If he had the type of work ethic / overall mentality of someone like Brees or Wilson maybe - but obviously that's not the case.
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He will get cut. He's a terrible player, and egomaniac, and overall dickhead.
Would love to see Manziel and Tebow get a TV show together. Kind of a new version of "perfect strangers" where they both train to get back into the NFL while living in a small 2 bedroom loft in NYC. Train all day, and social awkwardness at night,
They should cast them in The new Odd Couple.
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Another example of just how different the NFL is from college.. I do not believe his skillset will ever translate to the league.. If he had the type of work ethic / overall mentality of someone like Brees or Wilson maybe - but obviously that's not the case.
A lot also has to do with coach and scheme. In Manziels first start there were instances when he was scrambling but the recievers didn't know what to do and were just standing around. On other teams like Seattle and GB, the recievers know to continue trying to get open when the QB scrambles so he can make a play. Cleveland wasn't coached to do so.
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A lot also has to do with coach and scheme. In Manziels first start there were instances when he was scrambling but the recievers didn't know what to do and were just standing around. On other teams like Seattle and GB, the recievers know to continue trying to get open when the QB scrambles so he can make a play. Cleveland wasn't coached to do so.
What of Colombian cocaine induced bullshit is this? All WRs especially pros are taught to break their pattern and come back to the ball and/or run to space when the QB scrambles. I wonder if you would have wrote the same shit if he was black, a$$clown.
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Ya it was silly money just a couple years ago for guys who never stepped on the field...
I think the entry level contracts in football are based on draft position in regards to salary eligibility. Johnny, who was picked at 22, is still doing good at 2M/yr whereas Clowney who went #1 is getting 5M/yr.
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A lot also has to do with coach and scheme. In Manziels first start there were instances when he was scrambling but the recievers didn't know what to do and were just standing around. On other teams like Seattle and GB, the recievers know to continue trying to get open when the QB scrambles so he can make a play. Cleveland wasn't coached to do so.
I can see what you're saying and to some extent I agree. Its just that I think he is too slightly built to play that way. I know Wilson is not a big guy but he seems to be able to sustain the pocket.. Manziel is young and most young qbs that can run do resort to running a little too soon .. Maybe you are right and I hate to see anyone fail. I just had a bad feeling about him from the start.. I hope he can turn it around and have a career but I think it will take a lot. I do agree with you that it will take the right scheme in order to make it work.. He will never be a pure passer even though the kid has a helluva arm
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http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/texasamaggies/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-father-son-get-help-qb-live-see-24th-birthday (http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/texasamaggies/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-father-son-get-help-qb-live-see-24th-birthday)
Johnny Manziel's father: If son doesn't get help, QB 'won't live to see his 24th birthday'
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Johnny Manziel's family is concerned for his well-being as his NFL career and personal life falter, but the quarterback has twice declined to be admitted to area rehabilitation facilities in the last week, according to his father, Paul Manziel.
"I truly believe if they can't get him help, he won't live to see his 24th birthday," Paul Manziel told The Dallas Morning News.
On Friday, Manziel's agent Erik Burkhardt also voiced concern for Manziel, 23, and announced that he is terminating their professional relationship.
Paul Manziel first tried Saturday afternoon to get Manziel, whose birthday is in December, to agree to go to the Enterhealth Ranch addiction facility in Van Alstyne, but he would not stay. That attempt came the day after Manziel's former girlfriend alleged in a police report that he hit her repeatedly at a Dallas hotel and while driving her home to Fort Worth on Jan. 29. Manziel has not been charged in the incident, but a Fort Worth Police helicopter searched the area for him.
Paul Manziel said that he tried to have his son admitted Tuesday to Carrollton Springs Hospital, but that Johnny was allowed to leave. Paul Manziel said that he is upset that his son was allowed to walk away after Paul told a Denton County Sheriff officer that he believed Johnny to be suicidal. A public information officer from the Denton County Sheriff's office said it has no record of Manziel coming into contact with an officer. Carrollton Springs is a 45-bed psychiatric and chemical dependency hospital in Carrollton, providing inpatient and outpatient treatment to adults suffering from mental illness and/or addiction, according to its website.
Johnny Manziel, who is from Tyler and Kerrville, Texas, has spent the last several weeks in Dallas. The former Texas A&M quarterback and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner has been seen out, including at Wednesday night's Mavericks game.
Colleen Crowley, Manziel's ex-girlfriend, said Manziel acted like he was on drugs but not intoxicated during the Jan. 29 incident, according to the police report.
He also allegedy dragged her by her hair, forced her into a car and told her to "shut up or I'll kill us both," WFAA-TV (Channel 8) reported, citing unnamed sources.
Paul Manziel told Fort Worth police he had seen his son and his son was doing fine, according to the police report. Paul Manziel went on to say that he did not wish to further comment on the situation and requested officers not contact him again unless there is an existing warrant.
Manziel, who is expected to be released from the Cleveland Browns in early March, spent time in a rehabilitation facility during the last NFL off-season.
He started six games for the Browns this season, his second in the league, but his time in Cleveland has been dominated by off-field incidents since he was selected in the first round of the 2014 NFL draft.
In a statement Friday, Burkhardt said: "It is with deep regret that after several emotional and very personal discussions with his family, his doctors, and my client himself, I have made the decision to terminate my professional relationship with Johnny Manziel. Though I will remain a friend and Johnny supporter and he knows I have worked tirelessly to arrange a number of professional options for him to continue to pursue, it has become painfully obvious that his future rests solely in his own hands. His family and I have gone to great lengths to outline the steps we feel he must take to get his life in order. Accountability is the foundation of any relationship, and without it, the function of my work is counterproductive."
That Manziel's voracious social life and partyboy reputation could be the symptoms of deeper issues emerged when Paul Manziel publicly worried about Johnny and the fishbowl scrutiny on the quarterback in a August 2013 ESPN story, with Manziel about to begin his redshirt sophomore season at A&M.
"Yeah," Paul said then, "it could come unraveled. And when it does, it's gonna be bad. Real bad."
A friend of Johnny Manziel's since his time at A&M said he doesn't share Paul Manziel's concerns. Johnny is a normal guy who has made some questionable decisions, the friend said.
The friend said Manziel has been working out at a facility in Dallas and is intent on getting back into the NFL as a starting quarterback.
If the Browns do release Manziel in early March, it makes him available to other teams. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has had a long-standing interest in the player since almost drafting him in the first round in 2014. Other Cowboys executives are less enthusiastic about Manziel, but the team is looking for a backup quarterback.
The NFL toughened its stance on domestic violence before the start of the 2014 season. If the NFL rules that Manziel violated the league's personal conduct policy, he would be suspended without pay for at least six games for a first offense and would face a lifetime ban from the NFL for a second offense.
Manziel doesn't have to be found guilty in court -- or even charged -- to face punishment by the NFL.
The NFL typically doesn't move swiftly with its rulings on suspensions. The league could take months before ruling on the length of a possible suspension for Manziel. At that point, he would probably appeal.
Under league rules, any player arrested or charged with conduct violating the new domestic violence policy will be offered a formal clinical evaluation and appropriate follow-up education, counseling or treatment.
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Paul Manziel is the father of Johnny Manziel. In a leaked Patriots scouting report on Johnny Football, the Pats say that they aren’t very keen on Paul’s possible influence of Johnny. He’s accused of spoiling his son and of having a “wild” family. A My San Antonio report indicates that describing the family as merely “wild” is quite the understatement.
http://heavy.com/news/2014/05/johnny-manziel-dad-paul-manziel/ (http://heavy.com/news/2014/05/johnny-manziel-dad-paul-manziel/)
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http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/texasamaggies/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-father-son-get-help-qb-live-see-24th-birthday (http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/texasamaggies/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-father-son-get-help-qb-live-see-24th-birthday)
Johnny Manziel's father: If son doesn't get help, QB 'won't live to see his 24th birthday'
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Like this is dude lives that reckless of a lifestyle. He needs help, but unless he's driving under the influence on a regular basis or suicidal , Im sure his dad making ridiculous statements like that to the media is only adding fuel to the fire. He won't make it through the year because of alcohol and drug use.....
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Great drafting by the Browns.....Johnny and Justin Gilbert!
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This kid is going to fuck himself right out of a good thing if he doesn't straighten up. Ryan Leaf all over again.
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This kid is going to fuck himself right out of a good thing if he doesn't straighten up. Ryan Leaf all over again.
Leaf was on Sportscenter this afternoon offering to help and Manziel's family tweeted directly to Ryan for help.
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Great drafting by the Browns.....Johnny and Justin Gilbert!
Don't forget the year that Holmgren drafted Trent Richardson and Brandon Weedon in the first round too. Poor Browns fans.
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Dallas police are now going to investigate the beatdown his fist made to his girlfriends face
Great sidepiece to talk about between payton manning and cam superbowl stories this sunday
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Leaf was on Sportscenter this afternoon offering to help and Manziel's family tweeted directly to Ryan for help.
Dude can't even help himself and he's gonna help Manziel.
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Great drafting by the Browns.....Johnny and Justin Gilbert!
The Browns paid an outside consulting firm $100,000 to determine which qb was best, and they said to get Teddy Bridgewater. But some homeless guy convinced the owner to draft manziel anyways, and that's what they did
It's no mystery why sone teams suck
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http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/28/7456993/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-quarterback-2015
This is what happens when someone is full of themselves and it turns out they're made of shit.
It happens frequently in both professional sports and the "entertainment" industry.