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Title: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 02, 2015, 02:43:08 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: FermiDirac on January 02, 2015, 03:12:19 AM
It reminded me a lot of Nothern Europe, same kind of people and weather.
Everyone is very polite and finishes sentences with 'Eh'.

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Thick Nick on January 02, 2015, 03:20:58 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?

Free healthcare. 50% tax rate.... Free.

Canada... Lolz.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: _aj_ on January 02, 2015, 03:29:59 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?

No guns, lol. Head to the western provinces. The compliance on the gun ban is about 3%.

Right now, Canada is more conservative and free market that the US. Let that sink in for a moment.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 02, 2015, 03:50:14 AM
No nude beaches in C.  :-\
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Jizmonkey on January 02, 2015, 04:11:35 AM
No guns, lol. Head to the western provinces. The compliance on the gun ban is about 3%.

Right now, Canada is more conservative and free market that the US. Let that sink in for a moment.

No it's not. Maybe in Alberta, but everywhere else its more liberal.  Canada's right wing compares to the US middle.

You are right about lots of guns...in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Mostly for hunting.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 02, 2015, 04:41:54 AM
does your arms get any bigger there? More men in thong? If not, please end this discussion!

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Mr.1derful on January 02, 2015, 04:45:47 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?

Nothing in life is free.  Our healthcare is paid for via taxation and though it may have some benefits, it's a system that's lacking in many ways.  Long wait times and subpar treatment are very common. 
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on January 02, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
I think canada and Sweden are pretty much the same. Like Australia and New Zeeland! Same people! Same mind, same thought, simular architecture, simular system.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 02, 2015, 04:56:55 AM
Free healthcare. 50% tax rate.... Free.

Canada... Lolz.

It is funny when people call it free. Its far from free. The amount of taxes they pay when you include everything is incredibly high and personally, I don't think the overall public services are hardly worth the money.


The wait for an MRI scan is typically 3-4 months. Getting more and more difficult to find a family doctor. Walk in clinic visits last about three minutes, hardly thorough..

Cost of housing is insane. Auto insurance prices are insane. Gun crime is rising in the larger cities, particularly in Toronto, by guess who?  Huge influx of third world and never will speak English individuals pouring in.

Buy they do have nude beaches, ie. Wreck beach.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 02, 2015, 04:59:09 AM
No it's not. Maybe in Alberta, but everywhere else its more liberal.  Canada's right wing compares to the US middle.

You are right about lots of guns...in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Mostly for hunting.

In my travels I found the west very liberal, Ontario not even close.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Bevo on January 02, 2015, 05:07:34 AM
It is funny when people call it free. Its far from free. The amount of taxes they pay when you include everything is incredibly high and personally, I don't think the overall public services are hardly worth the money.


The wait for an MRI scan is typically 3-4 months. Getting more and more difficult to find a family doctor. Walk in clinic visits last about three minutes, hardly thorough..

Cost of housing is insane. Auto insurance prices are insane. Gun crime is rising in the larger cities, particularly in Toronto, by guess who?  Huge influx of third world and never will speak English individuals pouring in.

Buy they do have nude beaches, ie. Wreck beach.


Isn't it funny no matter where the place is when 3rd world people(the ones that don't give a shit in assimilating) tend to move in, it's almost always fucked up, poverty, crime rate goes up. Hmmm
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: orion on January 02, 2015, 06:54:20 AM
No nude beaches in C.  :-\

You can go topless in Canada on any beach, and even on the streets if you are brave enough.  When the law was struck down I saw quite a few women going topless but I guess the novelty wore off and not so much now.  I guess they didn't want a bunch of old pervs staring at them.  Toronto does have a nude beach on the island but its all homos.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: orion on January 02, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
In my travels I found the west very liberal, Ontario not even close.


What do you mean by liberal? Toronto has the biggest gay pride thing in the world. Is that not liberal enough for you
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 02, 2015, 07:02:13 AM
It's very common for Canadians to come to the US medical treatment. That screams something about their crap system.

Tired of people saying the government should provide. Liberals don't realize the government has no money. Only the money they take from people who work. Think about that next time you get that government check or government direct deposit into your account  you think you deserve.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: orion on January 02, 2015, 07:05:34 AM
It's very common for Canadians to come to the US medical treatment. That screams something about their crap system.

Tired of people saying the government should provide. Liberals don't realize the government has no money. Only the money they take from people who work. Think about that next time you get that government check or government direct deposit into your account  you think you deserve.

Total bs.  Only the rich do that, because they can afford to.  The rich don't wait in line for anything.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Nick Danger on January 02, 2015, 07:15:06 AM
It's very common for Canadians to come to the US medical treatment. That screams something about their crap system.

 

There are more and more private clinics opening in the larger Canadian cities.

The system isn't crap, it's unbiased. Rich and poor will get the same service. Should a child be penalized because his/her parents aren't wealthy?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Natural Man on January 02, 2015, 07:16:15 AM
the rich have access to private clinics dont they?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Howard on January 02, 2015, 07:20:45 AM
Isn't it funny no matter where the place is when 3rd world people(the ones that don't give a shit in assimilating) tend to move in, it's almost always fucked up, poverty, crime rate goes up. Hmmm
x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've said this before when it relates to people moving into neighborhoods.
1. Everyone wants to live in a "nice neighborhood"
2. If some folks move in with dysfunctional behaviors , the place quickly goes to shit.

Conclusion - The reason the place is nice is due to decent people living there. Any place can be a nice place to live IF decent people live there.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 02, 2015, 07:22:25 AM
Isn't it funny no matter where the place is when 3rd world people(the ones that don't give a shit in assimilating) tend to move in, it's almost always fucked up, poverty, crime rate goes up. Hmmm
Be clear the majority of these shootings involves kids from jamaica, Trinidad, and other carribean shit holes.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 02, 2015, 07:29:52 AM
Canada is America's gay brother.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 02, 2015, 07:33:29 AM
It's very common for Canadians to come to the US medical treatment. That screams something about their crap system.

Tired of people saying the government should provide. Liberals don't realize the government has no money. Only the money they take from people who work. Think about that next time you get that government check or government direct deposit into your account  you think you deserve.
I'd bet good money you'd find more american's going overseas for affordable healthcare, than canadians trying to cut in line.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 02, 2015, 07:42:44 AM

Cost of housing is insane.

This is the part that actually counts.

Canada's real estate bubble didn't crash in 2008 it grew as canada became a safe haven for chink money.

Housing here is absurdly expensive and we can thank our conservative government for that one.

People are even admitting it's 30 percent over priced across the board, even as our Money drops in value.

Some homes are gonna selling for half of what they are worth in a few near years.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: SuperTed on January 02, 2015, 08:00:02 AM
Nothing in life is free.  Our healthcare is paid for via taxation and though it may have some benefits, it's a system that's lacking in many ways.  Long wait times and subpar treatment are very common. 

You should try coming to the UK. The sacred lamb that is the NHS is a total nightmare. Wait hours for shit treatment.
It ought to be scrapped but it's so precious to the left that they'll keep it afloat even if it means constantly raising taxes. But we keeping getting told it's great because it's "free". ::)
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: CalvinH on January 02, 2015, 08:58:28 AM
Canada-keeps an extra layer from polar bears attacking Americans.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: ritch on January 02, 2015, 09:02:55 AM
You should try coming to the UK. The sacred lamb that is the NHS is a total nightmare. Wait hours for shit treatment.
It ought to be scrapped but it's so precious to the left that they'll keep it afloat even if it means constantly raising taxes. But we keeping getting told it's great because it's "free". ::)

average wait time is 10hrs or so here.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 02, 2015, 10:08:56 AM
It's less crazy because there's less people. Pack a shitload of people together and they act a fool. Canada is like a big country with the feeling of a Midwestern town.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: stavios on January 02, 2015, 10:11:14 AM
Free healthcare. 50% tax rate.... Free.

Canada... Lolz.

Lmfao

Exactly
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 02, 2015, 11:52:55 AM
Canada should take back Vince  :D
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: dr.chimps on January 02, 2015, 12:07:09 PM
Canada is America's gay brother.
Watch your mouth, convict.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: disco_stu on January 02, 2015, 12:14:39 PM
makes me laugh when i hear people complain about tax rates.

your taxation is built into your job. if you got less tax, you'd be paid alot less than you do.

if your income was taxed less, then services elsewhere would cost more.

its swings and roundabouts. either way, your government has to make dollars.

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 02, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
Watch your mouth, convict.

Vince was Mr.Canada  :D
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: tom joad on January 02, 2015, 01:00:34 PM
Lmfao

Exactly

bro, you ain't paying a 50% tax rate ... how much are ya pullin in a year?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: tom joad on January 02, 2015, 01:11:04 PM
where i'm living is ideal for me:
mid-March to end of Oct: Toronto and Ontario cottage country
Nov to mid-March: Medellin, Colombia
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: local hero on January 02, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
is it true aboot getting only 2 weeks paid holls a year in Canada?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: titusisback on January 02, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
It's very common for Canadians to come to the US medical treatment. That screams something about their crap system.

Oh yeah it's so bad that the life expectancy is 3 years more here in Canada. Wish I could have the U.S. medical system and die 3 years earlier.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: tom joad on January 02, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
i'm not into pot myself, but the decriminalization of marajuana is on the horizon in Canada and its actual legalization might not be too far in the future.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Fortress on January 02, 2015, 01:44:22 PM
As with any decent country that isn't Islamic or originally third-world based, we're getting trashed by the liberal-minded fucks who are brainwashed to believe multiculturalism is good and Muslims, as a whole, mean us no harm, in the long run.

Geographically, I love my country, but politically, I am disgusted with it. Wimps and weasels run things and won't do what's best for the long-term health of the nation.   

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Skylge on January 02, 2015, 02:02:41 PM
Here in Holland Canada is seen as very conservative, boring and back to the 1950's. True in 2015?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 02, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
As with any decent country that isn't Islamic or originally third-world based, we're getting trashed by the liberal-minded fucks who are brainwashed to believe multiculturalism is good and Muslims, as a whole, mean us no harm, in the long run.

Geographically, I love my country, but politically, I am disgusted with it. Wimps and weasels run things and won't do what's best for the long-term health of the nation.   


Lol I think that is fading, I even convinced my mom to be a little racist.

When you have 40 gang related deaths by somalis in province over a decade even the most naieve of liberals are changing there tone.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 02, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
In 1945 Canadians stole Her Hitler  Mercedes & is now in Montreal museum  >:(

 :D
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: tommywishbone on January 02, 2015, 11:27:17 PM
Canada is a lot like Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Nick Danger on January 02, 2015, 11:51:57 PM
Canada is a lot like Wisconsin.

No, western Ontario is a lot like Wisconsin...
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Sokolsky on January 03, 2015, 12:58:10 AM
Isn't it funny no matter where the place is when 3rd world people(the ones that don't give a shit in assimilating) tend to move in, it's almost always fucked up, poverty, crime rate goes up. Hmmm

If people can't partake in the economy because they're not integrated or able to be a part of it due to qualifications/languagebarriers/etc/etc than they have no other choice then to turn to the dark economies.

The more important question is why are these people allowed to come in knowing full-well they cannot partake in the economy or society properly, and do not even attempt to be a part of it?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 03, 2015, 01:05:44 AM
is it true aboot getting only 2 weeks paid holls a year in Canada?

Shit, I thought that was only in America. With bank holidays 40 plus days off in Spain...no wonder the economy is not so good :-)
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 03, 2015, 01:08:27 AM
Lol I think that is fading, I even convinced my mom to be a little racist.

When you have 40 gang related deaths by Somalis in province over a decade even the most naieve of liberals are changing there tone.

ha ha, I know you are Canadian for sure. Every Canadian I meet talks about the problems caused by Somalis. In Europe whereever they congregate they cause shit loads of problems.

Amazing the logic of the liberal elite, lets take the most wild people we can find, from a country in civil war, with no government, no structure or order, not fucking anything and then dump them in the middle of a developed country and expect them to do well. They are a nightmare, but in reality you cant help but expect them to fuck up.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 03, 2015, 01:11:04 AM
If people can't partake in the economy because they're not integrated or able to be a part of it due to qualifications/languagebarriers/etc/etc than they have no other choice then to turn to the dark economies.

The more important question is why are these people allowed to come in knowing full-well they cannot partake in the economy or society properly, and do not even attempt to be a part of it?

= Liberal Elite

In their stupid egalitarian mindset, they believe everybody is equal and capable of achieving success given the right environment. Ie Usian Bolt could equal Albert Einstein giving the right education, and Albert Einstein could regularly break the 10 second mark had he gone to athletics school, drunk his milk and ate his vitamins.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 03, 2015, 04:21:42 AM
It's like a Canadian Pride March in here.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: gettingbetter on January 05, 2015, 10:45:25 AM
I like it here in Canukistan. People are friendly, you don't lock up your doors and if you do winter sports (hockey) the weather ain't so bad.

Our healthcare is not that good and our taxes are pretty hefty but there are more and more private clinics for those who have the funds. I suscribed my family to one of those and we don't have to wait 10+ hours to renew prescriptions.

As for the housing price, it may be true in the western provinces but I bought a brand new pretty decent looking house (2400 square foot) for less than 400k with plenty of land to have my very own hockey rink :-)

Plus, our domestic market for underground labs is pretty good :-)

Camille Leblanc Bazinet sometimes trains at my gym so there's that too:

(http://www.wodtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Camille-Leblanc-Bazinet-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 05, 2015, 10:59:32 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?

Um no.  Toronto is known to have the second most black fatalities by a firearm behind LA in north America.  It is very violent.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 05, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
ha ha, I know you are Canadian for sure. Every Canadian I meet talks about the problems caused by Somalis. In Europe whereever they congregate they cause shit loads of problems.

Amazing the logic of the liberal elite, lets take the most wild people we can find, from a country in civil war, with no government, no structure or order, not fucking anything and then dump them in the middle of a developed country and expect them to do well. They are a nightmare, but in reality you cant help but expect them to fuck up.
Whats really infuriating is you can't even talk about this shit because it's considered racist.

When the reality is its proof positive that its the exact opposite of racism.


People from literally every country are present in this country in numbers, and everyone can name the very specific countries where all the problems come from. 

Canada is a lot like Wisconsin.
This shit is just border line retarded.

It's like a mexican going to el paso and assuming that new york is pretty much the same.

You can pretty much find a mix of qualities of almost every state and province.

Quebec has  the strong racist nationalist shit. Ontario is a mix of california and laker states. The west is alot like the plain states, with elements of pacific coast culture. The east is like new england mix with the deep south.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: stavios on January 05, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
bro, you ain't paying a 50% tax rate ... how much are ya pullin in a year?

45.71%

Still way too fucking much

Made 98k this year
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: gettingbetter on January 05, 2015, 11:54:06 AM
45.71%

Still way too fucking much

Made 98k this year

It's not gonna get better for the next few years I'm afraid....

Depending on your type of work, I would register a company to have better tax breaks.... Even if you have no real profit, you can still deduce plenty of things, including investments that went badly...

I've been "myrealname" holdings inc. since 2002 :-)
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Natural Man on January 05, 2015, 12:01:14 PM
People are the same everywhere on earth...
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 05, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
People are the same everywhere on earth...

LOL! :D
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 05, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
People are the same everywhere on earth...
My arab friend told me that one time, and within a week of saying that he admitted that it was normal to date first cousins where he was from.

I agree 95 percent of the time that statement is true, however when it's not watch the fuck out.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 05, 2015, 12:36:45 PM
Um no.  Toronto is known to have the second most black fatalities by a firearm behind LA in north America.  It is very violent.
For blacks, it's so regular and predictable it almost feels like it ain't real.

You can pretty much wake up Saturday morning, and hold bets for which intersection last nights shooting took place.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: stavios on January 05, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
It's not gonna get better for the next few years I'm afraid....

Depending on your type of work, I would register a company to have better tax breaks.... Even if you have no real profit, you can still deduce plenty of things, including investments that went badly...

I've been "myrealname" holdings inc. since 2002 :-)

Yeah a few people at work started doing that, apparently they save quite a lot !
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: doison on January 05, 2015, 02:18:42 PM
You guys think that Canada is so innocent but in grade one I had a geography teacher with three fingers and he gave me a C because I pronounced Kenya differently than him and when my mom reported it to the office we found out that he wasn't even supposed to be teaching at my school.  He was literally some stranger who wandered in
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: orion on January 05, 2015, 02:36:01 PM
We had full nudity in the strip joints way before US ever did.  Americans would pack the strip joints in Niagara Falls on Saturday night.  Aw, the Sundowner, fell in love there many times..
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Rudee on January 05, 2015, 02:43:40 PM
45.71%

Still way too fucking much

Made 98k this year

Baloney.  I'm in Canada and I make close to that, and with our Marginal Tax rate only a small fraction of your income (based on $98k) is taxed at the highest marginal rate.  Your average tax rate is much lower, that's for sure.   What Province are you in?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: gettingbetter on January 06, 2015, 08:47:21 AM
Yeah a few people at work started doing that, apparently they save quite a lot !

I never paid more than 20% on income taxes and I save the sales tax on everything I make. Portion of my car and mortage are also deducted every year. Not even earning as much as you do (kudos on that), I'm pretty sure I have more in my pocket....

The paperwork is ridiculous though but a good accountant will take care of it and save you much more than what you pay him....
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 06, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Baloney.  I'm in Canada and I make close to that, and with our Marginal Tax rate only a small fraction of your income (based on $98k) is taxed at the highest marginal rate.  Your average tax rate is much lower, that's for sure.   What Province are you in?
Agreed it's been proven numerous times that the difference in Canadian and American Tax rates is marginally different, when you factor in purchasing health insurance.

Granted canada isn't a low tax country, but comparing it to high tax states, and the numbers are much closer than you think.

Not the mention all the shit that goes along with a descent tax rate. less crime, etc etc,
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MAXX on January 06, 2015, 09:00:23 AM
Having traveled around both countries it seems like Canada has less psycho's than the US. I like Canada as it doesn't have the gun culture of the US, but the weather is a bit shit.

No guns +1
Free healthcare +1
Bad weather -1

Other than the points above, what other benefits does Canada have over America, or vice versa?
forgot a key factor.

not as much non whites...
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MikMaq on January 06, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
forgot a key factor.

not as much non whites...
What the fuck are you talking about?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
You guys think that Canada is so innocent but in grade one I had a geography teacher with three fingers and he gave me a C because I pronounced Kenya differently than him and when my mom reported it to the office we found out that he wasn't even supposed to be teaching at my school.  He was literally some stranger who wandered in

DId he teach the kids to play instruments and eventually enter them into a battle of the bands competition?
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 06, 2015, 09:33:52 AM
Whats really infuriating is you can't even talk about this shit because it's considered racist.

When the reality is its proof positive that its the exact opposite of racism.


Yes its like its perfectly fine to say how great black sportsman and how naturally gifted and talented they are, but to suggest that white people could be naturally better at engineering or science, oh how very dare you!

Its a joke, people can see the facts for the themselves, in France the borough of Paris with the highest murder and crime rate, happens also to the borough with almost 100% african population.

In London the borough with the highest murder and crime rate, happens also to be 70% black.

people are then quick to say oh they are disadvantaged, they didn't get the same opportunities, whilst omitting the fact they have been provided, free housing, free education, free healthcare...what else should they be provided with. Absenteeism is highest amongst the black population, so they don't even bother going to school and then complain when they cant get a job.

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: The Wrong Advices on January 06, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Yes its like its perfectly fine to say how great black sportsman and how naturally gifted and talented they are, but to suggest that white people could be naturally better at engineering or science, oh how very dare you!

Its a joke, people can see the facts for the themselves, in France the borough of Paris with the highest murder and crime rate, happens also to the borough with almost 100% african population.

In London the borough with the highest murder and crime rate, happens also to be 70% black.

people are then quick to say oh they are disadvantaged, they didn't get the same opportunities, whilst omitting the fact they have been provided, free housing, free education, free healthcare...what else should they be provided with. Absenteeism is highest amongst the black population, so they don't even bother going to school and then complain when they cant get a job.



Do you think it is their black skin that causes crime? Does having black skin predispose one to violence? When I tan, am I in more danger of acting out aggressively or robbing someone?

Fact is, the reason for black crime and underachievement is because they have a low sense of self-worth and do not see themselves as having value. The first thing a black kid learns is that even his own daddy doesn't value him.

A person with no sense of value does not care about the greater society. They do not see themselves as true insiders. This can easily lead one down the wrong road.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 06, 2015, 10:56:01 AM
Do you think it is their black skin that causes crime? Does having black skin predispose one to violence? When I tan, am I in more danger of acting out aggressively or robbing someone?

Fact is, the reason for black crime and underachievement is because they have a low sense of self-worth and do not see themselves as having value. The first thing a black kid learns is that even his own daddy doesn't value him.

A person with no sense of value does not care about the greater society. They do not see themselves as true insiders. This can easily lead one down the wrong road.

Do you think it is their black skin that causes crime?
No

Does having black skin predispose one to violence?
From a scientific perspective it could be a possibility, yet to be proven, but comparative statistics with other non black skinned races might suggest a correlation.

When I tan, am I in more danger of acting out aggressively or robbing someone?
The function of melanin and other pigment compounds, in high concentrations, or absence of, can affect libido, sexual behaviour, mental function and neuro-degenerative disease. That said the fact that someone has high concentrations of melanin in their skin does not mean they are going to behave in a predetermined fashion. We can see from Aborigines who have similar levels of melanin, they dont behave the same way as africans, although they are generally unsuccessful in a "western" world setting as well.
I never made any suggestion that black, or people of african descent, tend to engage in higher levels of crime and violence because their skin is black.

Fact is, the reason for black crime and underachievement is because they have a low sense of self-worth and do not see themselves as having value
This is not a fact
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: MAXX on January 06, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
Do you think it is their black skin that causes crime? Does having black skin predispose one to violence? When I tan, am I in more danger of acting out aggressively or robbing someone?

Fact is, the reason for black crime and underachievement is because they have a low sense of self-worth and do not see themselves as having value. The first thing a black kid learns is that even his own daddy doesn't value him.

A person with no sense of value does not care about the greater society. They do not see themselves as true insiders. This can easily lead one down the wrong road.
wow you are stupid
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Mawse on January 06, 2015, 01:26:33 PM
I wouldn't move back as it's just too expensive - and I live in California so that's saying something

salaries are lower, taxes are higher, cost of living is higher and you don't get the same tax breaks we do here in the US

my wife's Canadian and I lived there for a while but meh, no thanks.

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People are the same everywhere on earth...

 True, I remember my first night in Toronto I saw a young urban youth out for a jog - he ran past me in a wide circle which seemed odd, then round the corner ran a white couple and a policeman, she was yelling 'stop him, he took my purse'

Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 06, 2015, 01:49:43 PM
wow you are stupid

 ;D That view seems very common in those with a lefty / liberal view.

The scary thing is that there are so many people out there who despite the facts, science, stats, real life events that happen day after day after day, they still refuse look for some other excuse rather than accepting the unpleasant facts. All men were created equal....but in different ways.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 06, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
We had full nudity in the strip joints way before US ever did.  Americans would pack the strip joints in Niagara Falls on Saturday night.  Aw, the Sundowner, fell in love there many times..

Have to agree that when I was in Montreal the strip clubs were out of this fucking world.  Had a "lap dance" in a room that locked from the inside.  God bless the french whore
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: The Wrong Advices on January 06, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
wow you are stupid

Let's hear your enlightened opinions on the subject. Oh, right.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: The Wrong Advices on January 06, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
;D That view seems very common in those with a lefty / liberal view.

The scary thing is that there are so many people out there who despite the facts, science, stats, real life events that happen day after day after day, they still refuse look for some other excuse rather than accepting the unpleasant facts. All men were created equal....but in different ways.

So please explain how race, to the exclusion of cultural and societal factors, is the driving force behind anti-social behavior.

You don't think a kid who is kicked aside or completely ignored by his father (but who will stick around for his mixed race kids), is taught that authority figures and people of influence are predominately white, is constantly shown how his physical features are considered the bottom of the barrel for attractiveness (blonde, skinny, white ALWAYS the most beautiful), and by experience is made aware to the point of hypersensitivity that they are "different" and considered less than the rest is not a possible factor in the development of anti-social and/or criminal behavior? I think it's a sound line of reasoning, but then again, I've actually given it some study and thought.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Lord Chronos on January 07, 2015, 12:19:16 AM
So please explain how race, to the exclusion of cultural and societal factors, is the driving force behind anti-social behavior.

You don't think a kid who is kicked aside or completely ignored by his father (but who will stick around for his mixed race kids), is taught that authority figures and people of influence are predominately white, is constantly shown how his physical features are considered the bottom of the barrel for attractiveness (blonde, skinny, white ALWAYS the most beautiful), and by experience is made aware to the point of hypersensitivity that they are "different" and considered less than the rest is not a possible factor in the development of anti-social and/or criminal behavior? I think it's a sound line of reasoning, but then again, I've actually given it some study and thought.

So please explain how race, to the exclusion of cultural and societal factors, is the driving force behind anti-social behavior.
I never said to the exclusion of cultural and societal factors. For sure these will play a part. I believe race, culture and societal factors all play a part. Its the liberal/lefty view that ONLY culture and societal factors play a part, and race NEVER plays a part.

I dont know what part of the world you live in where black people are allegedly portrayed the bottom of the barrel but in Europe, especially the UK, the media constantly portrays black people as the coolest best looking people. Almost all the adverts portray mixed race families with a black father, white wife. Most of the sporting heroes that get the most media attention are black or mixed race. Most of the popular music features black people with images of wealth and success (although often with a ghetto element which is negative) Most women's mags and gossip columns show successful black men having a great time in high society. The media does everything it can to create a multicultural image of everyone being equal, and that anything ethnic is cooler and better than anything white. The EU does everything it can to ensure equality through anti-discrimination laws. Perhaps things are different where you live, but I have not seen any examples where black people are portrayed as "bottom of the barrel" in terms of attractiveness.

I think it's a sound line of reasoning, but then again, I've actually given it some study and thought.
Its good that you have given it some study and thought. Of course naturally as a either a liberal or lefty, only you are capable of giving these things thought, people who dont agree with the liberal or lefty view, or those who lean to the right, are not capable of thought as we know. I always love the the liberals view, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as it agrees with them. If it doesn't, then roll out the 18 year old students with no life experience and lets start protesting!!



Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: The Wrong Advices on January 07, 2015, 04:52:25 AM
I never said to the exclusion of cultural and societal factors. For sure these will play a part. I believe race, culture and societal factors all play a part. Its the liberal/lefty view that ONLY culture and societal factors play a part, and race NEVER plays a part.

I think that eventually, the cultural and societal factors become entwined with certain groups and it becomes extremely difficult to separate them. I just don't think there has been convincing evidence that a racial characteristic predisposes one to criminal and/or violent behavior. Environmental factors play a huge role in human learning and development, and I hold that a sense of societal value is instilled (or not) at a young age. Lack of this value makes it easier to not care about others, especially those who do belong or have this sense. A young black kid on the street feels he has no means to exert power over others, except with a gun, while the rich white Wall St kid knows how to manipulate the system to steal your money.

...the media constantly portrays black people as the coolest best looking people. Almost all the adverts portray mixed race families with a black father, white wife. Most of the sporting heroes that get the most media attention are black or mixed race. The media does everything it can to create a multicultural image of everyone being equal, and that anything ethnic is cooler and better than anything white. The EU does everything it can to ensure equality through anti-discrimination laws. Perhaps things are different where you live, but I have not seen any examples where black people are portrayed as "bottom of the barrel" in terms of attractiveness.

This speaks directly to my point; the families with at least some "white" component are seen as more desirable. Browse any magazine stand and you will see that the covers predominately feature airbrushed white models and celebrities. TV shows and movies have very little to offer visible minorities in terms of leading and/or non-ethnically focused roles. In other words, just a lawyer, or a doctor, or a CEO, or just a guy. Any top-ten "most-attractive" or "sexiest" list will almost certainly be topped by a white (or mixed-race, in some cases) celeb. And despite the dominance of blacks in sport and music, they are still under-represented in positions of true power (politics, CEOs, bankers, etc). Even black people themselves discriminate based on the darkness of skin, hair, etc, and often buy skin bleachers and hair straighteners. Asians get eye surgery to make their eyes more rounded. Where does this sense that their ethnic/racial features are less desirable come from?

Its good that you have given it some study and thought. Of course naturally as a either a liberal or lefty, only you are capable of giving these things thought, people who dont agree with the liberal or lefty view, or those who lean to the right, are not capable of thought as we know. I always love the the liberals view, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as it agrees with them. If it doesn't, then roll out the 18 year old students with no life experience and lets start protesting!

Nah, I'm just trying to understand things. I don't think the issue is as simple as "because they are black". There are layers of complexity here. My points are made to encourage discussion and the sharing of opinions, but most on the right just respond with dismissals or outright insults. Isn't that the same thing they accuse lefties of? I'm interested in a differing opinion, but so far no one has really offered one.
Title: Re: Canada, like America, but without the crap stuff?
Post by: Tapeworm on January 07, 2015, 04:56:15 AM
Like America but without the rap stuff.