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Suited benchpress sure is a weird sport, their struggle seems to be in pulling the bar to the chest, rather than fighting gravity.
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weird...I think there is much better word for this "sport"
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Suited benchpress sure is a weird sport, their struggle seems to be in pulling the bar to the chest, rather than fighting gravity.
Yeah, I never understood the allure of benching with those shirts.
My thought is, if you can't lift it without some tight, motion-restricting shirt, then that means you can't lift it at all.
I think it would make more sense (actually, just be fair) if every one of these guys would just compete without those bench pressing shirts.
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My colleague, BadBlueBoyZG861 from youtube comments explains it thus:
BadBlueBoyZG861 month ago
As far as I know he just benches.
He doesnt do Squats and deadlifts ( think he cant do it because of an accident)
So there is a huge musular dysbalance(sic) in his body. That causes extrem tightness in his chest.
SO he needs at least 600 lbs of weight to get the bar onto his chest.
Monstrous bencher anyway....
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Just learn to drive a forklift
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Yeah, I never understood the allure of benching with those shirts.
My thought is, if you can't lift it without some tight, motion-restricting shirt, then that means you can't lift it at all.
I think it would make more sense (actually, just be fair) if every one of these guys would just compete without those bench pressing shirts.
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The crazy thing is that Mendelson held the "raw" ( no bench shirt) record at around 718 lbs!
BUT, the biggest competition is with the shirts...go figure. So he went in that direction.
I did my best to find out why the bench shirt lifts were a bigger deal:
1. Obviously , the guys lift a lot a LOT more wt with the shirt, so the lift sounds more impressive.
2. Lifting attire companies ( like Inzer) had a huge influence on using shirts as the most prestigious.
3. Most of those "into" powerlifting prefer lifting with bench shirts and don't want to lift raw.
To me it's similar to drugged vs natural bodybuilding. The extreme drug use or extreme bench shirt lifts turn their sport into an oddity for all but the hardcore who really get into it.
* Notice that more popular mainstream sports, have enforced rules and even use instant replay to check on the official calls.
If Benching or bodybuilding ran NFL football, they would allow spikes , chains and metal armor as art of the uniform LOL.
It would end up being more like : Road Warrior,enter the Thunderdome LOL
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That video right there is why he should get a pass for his shirt lifts.
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To be honest, its so fucking complicated understanding who holds the world record. Every few weeks, there is a new video of a person in a federation stating a world record had been broken. And there are a lot of different powerlifting federations. I just never understood it. :-\ :-\
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As a former USPF competitor with three Master ratings (198, 220 & 275) and one Elite rating (242) I am too embarrassed to watch more than 2 minutes of those guys all waking around wearing those absurd evening gowns or bench press shirts or whatever the fuck those nincompoops are all prancing around in.
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To be honest, its so fucking complicated understanding who holds the world record. Every few weeks, there is a new video of a person in a federation stating a world record had been broken. And there are a lot of different powerlifting federations. I just never understood it. :-\ :-\
I personally only look at raw lifting as legit.
C'mon, any of us can lift a ton if we use a truck shock on our chest to bounce the bar up LOL
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As a former USPF competitor with three Master ratings (198, 220 & 275) and one Elite rating (242) I am too embarrassed to watch more than 2 minutes of those guys all waking around wearing those absurd evening gowns or bench press shirts or whatever the fuck those nincompoops are prancing around in.
In the USPF 198 lb class I did :
Bench ( pause, no bench shirt) 365 lbs
Squat - no suit or wraps - 505 lbs
deadlift - belt only - 515 lbs
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My colleague, BadBlueBoyZG861 from youtube comments explains it thus:
BadBlueBoyZG861 month ago
As far as I know he just benches.
He doesnt do Squats and deadlifts ( think he cant do it because of an accident)
So there is a huge musular dysbalance(sic) in his body. That causes extrem tightness in his chest.
SO he needs at least 600 lbs of weight to get the bar onto his chest.
Monstrous bencher anyway....
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Unless a medical professional said this, I say BS.
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My colleague, BadBlueBoyZG861 from youtube comments explains it thus:
BadBlueBoyZG861 month ago
As far as I know he just benches.
He doesnt do Squats and deadlifts ( think he cant do it because of an accident)
So there is a huge musular dysbalance(sic) in his body. That causes extrem tightness in his chest.
SO he needs at least 600 lbs of weight to get the bar onto his chest.
Monstrous bencher anyway....
Absolute bullshit.
He benches partials because that's the exercise that they are doing. He's training lockouts.
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And here we go again with shirted and raw..................... ......
Lift where you want lord knows there are plenty of feds out there now a days.
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I too am a uspa and uspf member and competitor (raw). But I have no problem with shirted lifters. You think lance Armstrong can ride as fast as he does on a huffy? It's equipment just like a lighter bike or a strong pole for pole vaulting.
Scott hoes into detail about why he inly benches in "Power unlimited" I'm sure it's on YouTube
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I too am a uspa and uspf member and competitor (raw). But I have no problem with shirted lifters. You think lance Armstrong can ride as fast as he does on a huffy? It's equipment just like a lighter bike or a strong pole for pole vaulting.
Scott hoes into detail about why he inly benches in "Power unlimited" I'm sure it's on YouTube
Well as my name is "Scott" I think it justified that I too, "hoe into detail" on what I think about bench shirts and those that use them.
Screw 'em. Some of those things are bouncier than a BMC "special" twerking on a Serta innerspring mattress. The shirt makes the lift (more bounce) possible. You lift with muscles. Shirt wearers?
Nope. They cheat. And yes, if everyone is cheating its still cheating. Its not real. In a way, it's even dopier than drugs.
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so i lift raw?(bodybuilding) and these guys wear condoms? (powerlifters)
i thought bodybuilding was bad. this is way worse
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Jesus I'm out of breath just watching him talk. What does he weigh?
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Suited benchpress sure is a weird sport, their struggle seems to be in pulling the bar to the chest, rather than fighting gravity.
Strange video, more akin to some kind of overgrown baby fetish involving muscles. Only thing missing is some grapefruits somewhere.
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is that a legal bench in a meet with the suit on
the range of motion is tiny
very impressive but i cannot see how that shit benefits you in any way
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To be honest, its so fucking complicated understanding who holds the world record. Every few weeks, there is a new video of a person in a federation stating a world record had been broken. And there are a lot of different powerlifting federations. I just never understood it. :-\ :-\
you hit the nail on the head. this is why to most it doesnt matter unless the person is ranked top across all feds. this is where pl watch rankings help.
to many are scared of competition, so they do sub, master, etc. also equipped vs raw. two different sports really. with equipped dying
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And here we go again with shirted and raw..................... ......
Lift where you want lord knows there are plenty of feds out there now a days.
And that is the problem that SF1900 said.
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these dudes owns Scott any day of the week forever!!
RAHMAN Siamand
48kgs Yakubu Adesokan >>>> Scott "lardass/shite" Mendelson
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wtf did i just watched?was hoping for some bench pressing video
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Each their own.
Only WTF was that about, strange half shirt, block of wood half reps.
That now passes as powerlifting Bench Pressing. ::)
Yes he got a huge poundage on bar, other than that ???
Why not just have a coil spring on chest to assist benching.
As a former UK national champ raw lifting I find that stuff boring as hell.
It's Just not for Me.
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A blind item back in the day was that Mendelson had gotten so big that he needed to travel with a small emphysema sized oxygen bottle during longer walking trips. Guys swore it was true.
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The bench press is the most over rated lift to prove you are strong. All the crazy things they have come up with to make the lift easier is just beyond comprehension. First they practice that crazy arch to shorten the range of motion as they inhale to blow up their chest further. Keeping elbows in tight to improve leverage. Taking as wide a grip as possible to further shorten the range of motion. Then wearing a bench shirt that wouldn't allow you bench 225lbs because it's impossible to bring the bar down.
Does anyone think that getting your shoulders and pecs so inflexible and tight that only a heavy weight can force the bar to your chest will be beneficial in any athletic endeavor?
Olympic lifting has it all over this nonsense. No wonder power lifting can't get into the olympics. Off topic but Olympic lifting should be called power lifting and power lifting should be called strength lifting when done raw.
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Unless a medical professional said this, I say BS.
He may have some tightness in his chest but c'mon , that won't hold up 550 lbs LOL.
ANYONE who ever used a modern bench shirt knows this.
In my experience, I had to have at least 225 lbs on the bar before he could go all the way down to my chest.
It felt odd and I thought it made lifting a joke, so I returned it to INZER .
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Olympic lifting has it all over this nonsense. No wonder power lifting can't get into the olympics.
I'm guessing that the reason the IOC don't want powerlifting in the Olympics is more down to the drug issue than anything else.
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I'm guessing that the reason the IOC don't want powerlifting in the Olympics is more down to the drug issue than anything else.
Yeah, you won't see Powerlifting because of the drugs, and the time it takes to stage the events. The time it takes has always been a quiet gripe among Olympic officials. If it ever got in, I don't doubt that it would be a two lift event, probably a push - pull type thing.
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these dudes owns Scott any day of the week forever!!
RAHMAN Siamand
48kgs Yakubu Adesokan >>>> Scott "lardass/shite" Mendelson
I was blown away by this. Never seen that before. Can't imagine benching that kind of weight without using leg drive. Wonder if these guys are nattys? I'm sure they are tested. Thanks for posting. I'm guessing there is no squat or deadlift ;D
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I was blown away by this. Never seen that before. Can't imagine benching that kind of weight without using leg drive. Wonder if these guys are nattys? I'm sure they are tested. Thanks for posting. I'm guessing there is no squat or deadlift ;D
Here's another paralympic athlete-not in a wheelchair this time.
Doesn't even strap himself to the bench this time. But, after he unracks the weight,shuffles his atrophied legs up the bench ,to create some sort of arch .Does he use the arch to drive the weight up?
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Get rid of all the phony crutches....shirts, drugs, all of it....That will show who the best really are.
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hes not wearing a bench shirt for the first part of the video ::)
he also tore his pec to shit last year benching without a shirt
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new contest prep guru in town
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hes not wearing a bench shirt for the first part of the video ::)
he also tore his pec to shit last year benching without a shirt
Quite the dent he has there - maybe it improves his isometric power level.
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Quite the dent he has there - maybe it improves his isometric power level.
At the 2:46 mark you can see the tear happen. Brutal.
Aftermath looked pretty bad too
(http://fitnessorstrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Scot-Mendelson-Pec-Tear.jpg)
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In the USPF 198 lb class I did :
Bench ( pause, no bench shirt) 365 lbs
Squat - no suit or wraps - 505 lbs
deadlift - belt only - 515 lbs
solid total! i'm getting there.
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Massive tits on "Chanel Rene" in this video, raw no condom no pulling out BMC-style.
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these dudes owns Scott any day of the week forever!!
RAHMAN Siamand
48kgs Yakubu Adesokan >>>> Scott "lardass/shite" Mendelson
lifting that much weight with no stability from your legs is just insane.
in the 2nd video, the dude weighs like 115 pounds and benched almost 400 pounds like it was nothing.
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these dudes owns Scott any day of the week forever!!
RAHMAN Siamand
48kgs Yakubu Adesokan >>>> Scott "lardass/shite" Mendelson
and yet you have this blob of shit (below) talking all kinds of crap (in other videos), saying how he is the strongest, yet some guy who does not even use legs can bench more than him
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A blind item back in the day was that Mendelson had gotten so big that he needed to travel with a small emphysema sized oxygen bottle during longer walking trips. Guys swore it was true.
I've actually heard that same story as well.
It's almost as if everything in his existence is geared toward bench pressing, the effects it has on other parts of his life be damned.
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mendelson looks healthy :-X
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should make v neck bench shirts. Do it in style!
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should make v neck bench shirts. Do it in style!
Would show the epic cleavage from the man boobs they sport.
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Not a fan of modern Powerlifting.
I love the 60's, 70's, early 80's stuff.
Bridges
Reinhoudt
Pacifico
Anello
Seno
Arcidi
Bill West - Culver City Westside gang
Pat Casey
Doug Young
etc...
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MacDonald was the man... (Singlet and T-shirt only, flat back on bench).
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8506/8533215926_4e4b922550.jpg)
Shortly after finishing his basic training, he was sent for a year to Vietnam, and he says he passed the long nights in the bush by dreaming that one day he would follow the lead of Ronnie Ray and create world records in the bench press when his life returned to normal. Happily, it wasn’t too long in coming, and he spent his final year in the service stationed in Minneapolis, where he had good training facilities and such workout partners as Ken Patera, the giant American Olympic lifter and all-around strongman.
Under these conditions his bench press and his bodyweight both shot up, and within a year he had brought his bench up from a post-Vietnam 230 to an official 480, weighing 215. The next year he entered the Junior National Powerlifting Championships (open to anyone who has won neither the Seniors or the Juniors) and not only made a new bench press record with 539, but also squatted 655, and deadlifted 640 to total 1,835 and win the Best Lifter trophy. These lifts demonstrate what Mike can do in the squat and deadlift if he trains on them, which he rarely does, preferring instead to specialize in the bench.
In 1973, he trained down to the light-heavyweight class again and set an American record (world records not yet being official) of 487.75. Following the 484.75, he made a 470 official world record (which I described earlier) at the 1973 World Championships, a record which still stands as this is being written. The following year Mike went up to the middle-heavyweight (198.75 pound) class, and at the state meet in Minnesota he shattered the world bench press record twice by lifting 535 and 540 back to back, yet these two great lifts were never official because there were no high-ranking cardholders present to “pass” the lifts.
Mike then moved up into the newly formed 220.5-pound class and broke his friendly archrival Larry Pacifico’s world record in the bench my making 555. 75. Later that year he and Larry met head to head in he 1974 World Championships in York, Pennsylvania, and when the chalk dust settled, Larry had driven Mike to another world record in the 220’s, this time with 573.25, which as of June 1977 was still the record. The 573.25 is not, however, Mike’s best official effort in this class because early in 1975 he hoisted 585 in a contest in North Dakota only to lose the lift as a world record because of the aforementioned problem of cardholders.
In 1975, Mike made a judgmental error by driving 1,300 miles almost straight through on the day of the National Championships. He was so fatigued that he did far less than his best and was outbenched by the powerful Pacifico. Stung by the defeat, Mike dropped again into the 198.75-pound class and added another bodyweight class to his list of world records with a bench of 523.5. Pacifico, however, had ideas of his own about records, and he upped the mark to 529.5 and then published a challenge to Mike saying in effect, “You won in 1974, I won in 1975, so let’s have it out for the title in 1976 in the 198-pound class at the National Championships.
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MacDonald was the man... (Singlet and T-shirt only, flat back on bench).
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8506/8533215926_4e4b922550.jpg)
Shortly after finishing his basic training, he was sent for a year to Vietnam, and he says he passed the long nights in the bush by dreaming that one day he would follow the lead of Ronnie Ray and create world records in the bench press when his life returned to normal. Happily, it wasn’t too long in coming, and he spent his final year in the service stationed in Minneapolis, where he had good training facilities and such workout partners as Ken Patera, the giant American Olympic lifter and all-around strongman.
Under these conditions his bench press and his bodyweight both shot up, and within a year he had brought his bench up from a post-Vietnam 230 to an official 480, weighing 215. The next year he entered the Junior National Powerlifting Championships (open to anyone who has won neither the Seniors or the Juniors) and not only made a new bench press record with 539, but also squatted 655, and deadlifted 640 to total 1,835 and win the Best Lifter trophy. These lifts demonstrate what Mike can do in the squat and deadlift if he trains on them, which he rarely does, preferring instead to specialize in the bench.
In 1973, he trained down to the light-heavyweight class again and set an American record (world records not yet being official) of 487.75. Following the 484.75, he made a 470 official world record (which I described earlier) at the 1973 World Championships, a record which still stands as this is being written. The following year Mike went up to the middle-heavyweight (198.75 pound) class, and at the state meet in Minnesota he shattered the world bench press record twice by lifting 535 and 540 back to back, yet these two great lifts were never official because there were no high-ranking cardholders present to “pass” the lifts.
Mike then moved up into the newly formed 220.5-pound class and broke his friendly archrival Larry Pacifico’s world record in the bench my making 555. 75. Later that year he and Larry met head to head in he 1974 World Championships in York, Pennsylvania, and when the chalk dust settled, Larry had driven Mike to another world record in the 220’s, this time with 573.25, which as of June 1977 was still the record. The 573.25 is not, however, Mike’s best official effort in this class because early in 1975 he hoisted 585 in a contest in North Dakota only to lose the lift as a world record because of the aforementioned problem of cardholders.
In 1975, Mike made a judgmental error by driving 1,300 miles almost straight through on the day of the National Championships. He was so fatigued that he did far less than his best and was outbenched by the powerful Pacifico. Stung by the defeat, Mike dropped again into the 198.75-pound class and added another bodyweight class to his list of world records with a bench of 523.5. Pacifico, however, had ideas of his own about records, and he upped the mark to 529.5 and then published a challenge to Mike saying in effect, “You won in 1974, I won in 1975, so let’s have it out for the title in 1976 in the 198-pound class at the National Championships.
its not physically possible to have your feet on the ground, your shoulders on the pad, your butt on the pad, and your back flat on the pad as well. so of course this guy has an arch in his lower back when he benches.
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I don't get this either. You should have to lay down on the bench, take the weight off the rack and rep it all the way down to your chest, then re rack it all with no assistance. And this "bench shirt" stuff is ridiculous.
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I don't get this either. You should have to lay down on the bench, take the weight off the rack and rep it all the way down to your chest, then re rack it all with no assistance. And this "bench shirt" stuff is ridiculous.
I have no problem with equipped lifting. it's not "cheating". its not like you can just throw a bench shirt on and immediately bench 150 lbs more. you have to learn how to use it and it takes a long time to master it. the top equipped lifters are still incredibly strong guys and 99% of them still have awesome raw totals as well.
people just have to recognize it as a completely different sport than raw powerlifting.
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Are there any other 'sports' that involve such limited range of motion? i.e., no part of the body has to move more than ~10cm.
Darts, maybe? Even basically stationary sports such as archery or skeet shooting involve more movement.
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Very strange behavior