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Garlic clove, tbls ginger,tbls apple vinegar, tbls extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 lemon, 1/2 grapefruit, milk thistle, and 16 ounces of green tea. I put it in my protein shaker and drink it in the morning.
How about you guys?
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Garlic clove, tbls ginger,tbls apple vinegar, tbls extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 lemon, 1/2 grapefruit, milk thistle, and 16 ounces of green tea. I put it in my protein shaker and drink it in the morning.
Does that shit really work? I always feel like those liver detox things are snake oil.
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I put this one together myself.
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Detoxing is bullshit. It's all pseudoscientific nonsense. Avoid it at all costs. Literally.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/05/detox-myth-health-diet-science-ignorance
Whether it’s cucumbers splashing into water or models sitting smugly next to a pile of vegetables, it’s tough not to be sucked in by the detox industry. The idea that you can wash away your calorific sins is the perfect antidote to our fast-food lifestyles and alcohol-lubricated social lives. But before you dust off that juicer or take the first tentative steps towards a colonic irrigation clinic, there’s something you should know: detoxing – the idea that you can flush your system of impurities and leave your organs squeaky clean and raring to go – is a scam. It’s a pseudo-medical concept designed to sell you things.
“Let’s be clear,” says Edzard Ernst, emeritus professor of complementary medicine at Exeter University, “there are two types of detox: one is respectable and the other isn’t.” The respectable one, he says, is the medical treatment of people with life-threatening drug addictions. “The other is the word being hijacked by entrepreneurs, quacks and charlatans to sell a bogus treatment that allegedly detoxifies your body of toxins you’re supposed to have accumulated.”
If toxins did build up in a way your body couldn’t excrete, he says, you’d likely be dead or in need of serious medical intervention. “The healthy body has kidneys, a liver, skin, even lungs that are detoxifying as we speak,” he says. “There is no known way – certainly not through detox treatments – to make something that works perfectly well in a healthy body work better.”
Much of the sales patter revolves around “toxins”: poisonous substances that you ingest or inhale. But it’s not clear exactly what these toxins are. If they were named they could be measured before and after treatment to test effectiveness. Yet, much like floaters in your eye, try to focus on these toxins and they scamper from view. In 2009, a network of scientists assembled by the UK charity Sense about Science contacted the manufacturers of 15 products sold in pharmacies and supermarkets that claimed to detoxify. The products ranged from dietary supplements to smoothies and shampoos. When the scientists asked for evidence behind the claims, not one of the manufacturers could define what they meant by detoxification, let alone name the toxins.
Yet, inexplicably, the shelves of health food stores are still packed with products bearing the word “detox” – it’s the marketing equivalent of drawing go-faster stripes on your car. You can buy detoxifying tablets, tinctures, tea bags, face masks, bath salts, hair brushes, shampoos, body gels and even hair straighteners. Yoga, luxury retreats, and massages will also all erroneously promise to detoxify. You can go on a seven-day detox diet and you’ll probably lose weight, but that’s nothing to do with toxins, it’s because you would have starved yourself for a week.
Then there’s colonic irrigation. Its proponents will tell you that mischievous plaques of impacted poo can lurk in your colon for months or years and pump disease-causing toxins back into your system. Pay them a small fee, though, and they’ll insert a hose up your bottom and wash them all away. Unfortunately for them – and possibly fortunately for you – no doctor has ever seen one of these mythical plaques, and many warn against having the procedure done, saying that it can perforate your bowel.
Other tactics are more insidious. Some colon-cleansing tablets contain a polymerising agent that turns your faeces into something like a plastic, so that when a massive rubbery poo snake slithers into your toilet you can stare back at it and feel vindicated in your purchase. Detoxing foot pads turn brown overnight with what manufacturers claim is toxic sludge drawn from your body. This sludge is nothing of the sort – a substance in the pads turns brown when it mixes with water from your sweat.
“It’s a scandal,” fumes Ernst. “It’s criminal exploitation of the gullible man on the street and it sort of keys into something that we all would love to have – a simple remedy that frees us of our sins, so to speak. It’s nice to think that it could exist but unfortunately it doesn’t.”
That the concept of detoxification is so nebulous might be why it has evaded public suspicion. When most of us utter the word detox, it’s usually when we’re bleary eyed and stumbling out of the wrong end of a heavy weekend. In this case, surely, a detox from alcohol is a good thing? “It’s definitely good to have non-alcohol days as part of your lifestyle,” says Catherine Collins, an NHS dietitian at St George’s Hospital. “It’ll probably give you a chance to reassess your drinking habits if you’re drinking too much. But the idea that your liver somehow needs to be ‘cleansed’ is ridiculous.”
The liver breaks down alcohol in a two-step process. Enzymes in the liver first convert alcohol to acetaldehyde, a very toxic substance that damages liver cells. It is then almost immediately converted into carbon dioxide and water which the body gets rid of. Drinking too much can overwhelm these enzymes and the acetaldehyde buildup will lead to liver damage. Moderate and occasional drinking, though, might have a protective effect. Population studies, says Collins, have shown that teetotallers and those who drink alcohol excessively have a shorter life expectancy than people who drink moderately and in small amounts.
“We know that a little bit of alcohol seems to be helpful,” she says. “Maybe because its sedative effect relaxes you slightly or because it keeps the liver primed with these detoxifying enzymes to help deal with other toxins you’ve consumed. That’s why the government guidelines don’t say, ‘Don’t drink’; they say, ‘OK drink, but only modestly.’ It’s like a little of what doesn’t kill you cures you.”
This adage also applies in an unexpected place – to broccoli, the luvvie of the high-street “superfood” detox salad. Broccoli does help the liver out but, unlike the broad-shouldered, cape-wearing image that its superfood moniker suggests, it is no hero. Broccoli, as with all brassicas – sprouts, mustard plants, cabbages – contains cyanide. Eating it provides a tiny bit of poison that, like alcohol, primes the enzymes in your liver to deal better with any other poisons.
Collins guffaws at the notion of superfoods. “Most people think that you should restrict or pay particular attention to certain food groups, but this is totally not the case,” she says. “The ultimate lifestyle ‘detox’ is not smoking, exercising and enjoying a healthy balanced diet like the Mediterranean diet.”
Close your eyes, if you will, and imagine a Mediterranean diet. A red chequered table cloth adorned with meats, fish, olive oil, cheeses, salads, wholegrain cereals, nuts and fruits. All these foods give the protein, amino acids, unsaturated fats, fibre, starches, vitamins and minerals to keep the body – and your immune system, the biggest protector from ill-health – functioning perfectly.
So why, then, with such a feast available on doctor’s orders, do we feel the need to punish ourselves to be healthy? Are we hard-wired to want to detox, given that many of the oldest religions practise fasting and purification? Has the scientific awakening shunted bad spirits to the periphery and replaced them with environmental toxins that we think we have to purge ourselves of?
Susan Marchant-Haycox, a London psychologist, doesn’t think so. “Trying to tie detoxing in with ancient religious practices is clutching at straws,” she says. “You need to look at our social makeup over the very recent past. In the 70s, you had all these gyms popping up, and from there we’ve had the proliferation of the beauty and diet industry with people becoming more aware of certain food groups and so on.
“The detox industry is just a follow-on from that. There’s a lot of money in it and there are lots of people out there in marketing making a lot of money.”
Peter Ayton, a professor of psychology at City University London, agrees. He says that we’re susceptible to such gimmicks because we live in a world with so much information we’re happy to defer responsibility to others who might understand things better. “To understand even shampoo you need to have PhD in biochemistry,” he says, “but a lot of people don’t have that. If it seems reasonable and plausible and invokes a familiar concept, like detoxing, then we’re happy to go with it.”
Many of our consumer decisions, he adds, are made in ignorance and supposition, which is rarely challenged or informed. “People assume that the world is carefully regulated and that there are benign institutions guarding them from making any kind of errors. A lot of marketing drip-feeds that idea, surreptitiously. So if people see somebody with apparently the right credentials, they think they’re listening to a respectable medic and trust their advice.”
Ernst is less forgiving: “Ask trading standards what they’re doing about it. Anyone who says, ‘I have a detox treatment’ is profiting from a false claim and is by definition a crook. And it shouldn’t be left to scientists and charities to go after crooks.”
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Does that shit really work? I always feel like those liver detox things are snake oil.
Doctors says they're snake oil. Liver detox by itself, if you feel something is wrong with it then you should consult a doctor right away .
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Few big gulps of Roto Rooter will do the trick.
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Dr. J in case you have not been paying attention the last few days distilled water is really all you need.
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I'm not talking about "snake oil" products, I'm asking about natural detox you guys have put together yourself.
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I'm not talking about "snake oil" products, I'm asking about natural detox you guys have put together yourself.
You can't detox your body no matter what ingredients you put together. Pseudoscientific crap.
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Garlic clove, tbls ginger,tbls apple vinegar, tbls extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 lemon, 1/2 grapefruit, milk thistle, and 16 ounces of green tea. I put it in my protein shaker and drink it in the morning.
How about you guys?
You need to pour that over some chicken breasts and light the grill.
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Garlic clove, tbls ginger,tbls apple vinegar, tbls extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 lemon, 1/2 grapefruit, milk thistle, and 16 ounces of green tea. I put it in my protein shaker and drink it in the morning.
How about you guys?
What is milk thistle?
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You can't detox your body no matter what ingredients you put together. Pseudoscientific crap.
If you stir in some shark cartilage, a few magnets and some raw copper ore, it can cure cancer.
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Dr. J in case you have not been paying attention the last few days distilled water is really all you need.
Yeah, I'm pretty much here everyday. For like the last 12 years. Distilled water is fine to assist with detox for a short period of time, just make sure to supplement your essential minerals.
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If you stir in some shark cartilage, a few magnets and some raw copper ore, it can cure cancer.
What about electricity?
Maybe DR. J can electrocute the toxins out of his body.
Step 1: Fill up bathtub
Step 2: Plug hairdryer into wall to gain electricity
Step 3: Get into bathtub
Step 4: Place hairdryer in bathtub
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If you stir in some shark cartilage, a few magnets and some raw copper ore, it can cure cancer.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much here everyday. For like the last 12 years. Distilled water is fine to assist with detox for a short period of time, just make sure to supplement your essential minerals.
Well, you certainly haven't been following closely enough. Dr. Milton NWiggs has issued a proclamation that all water consumed by humans from this point forward in history shall be distilled water.
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A healthy diet is all you need. Your body is built to detox itself. This idea of liver "detox" and digestive "cleanse" is all marketing bullshit. This is just my opinion of course.
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A healthy diet is all you need. Your body is built to detox itself. This idea of liver "detox" and digestive "cleanse" is all marketing bullshit. This is just my opinion of course.
No Sir, the distillation and subsequent ingestion of hydrogen and oxygen atoms will turn your skin black and you will begin speaking Yiddish.
Truth.
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Well, you certainly haven't been following closely enough. Dr. Milton NWiggs has issued a proclamation that all water consumed by humans from this point forward in history shall be distilled water.
No,...no I did follow it, my tread is simple and diffrent. I posted my liver detox that I enjoy and use for time to time, then I went on to ask what you guys use. Very simple, does not take a bunch IQ to understand it.
Hope this helps ;D
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What about electricity?
Maybe DR. J can electrocute the toxins out of his body.
Step 1: Fill up bathtub
Step 2: Plug hairdryer into wall to gain electricity
Step 3: Get into bathtub
Step 4: Place hairdryer in bathtub
I'm not asking for advice?
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Few big gulps of Roto Rooter will do the trick.
Give it a swirl, and post of your findings.
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No,...no I did follow it, my tread is simple and diffrent. I posted my liver detox that I enjoy and use for time to time, then I went on to ask what you guys use. Very simple, does not take a bunch IQ to understand it.
Hope this helps ;D
Are you aware that "Dr." Richard Schulze cured aids, cancer, and heart disease with nothing but distilled water?
I strongly suspect that you have not done any "Masters work". ;D
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You can't detox your body no matter what ingredients you put together. Pseudoscientific crap.
These natural products do assist the liver.
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Are you aware that "Dr." Richard Schulze cured aids, cancer, and heart disease with nothing but distilled water?
I strongly suspect that you have not done any "Masters work". ;D
Amazing, bro science?
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A healthy diet is all you need. Your body is built to detox itself. This idea of liver "detox" and digestive "cleanse" is all marketing bullshit. This is just my opinion of course.
I understand that, but I'm also looking at the liver support these natural foods offer. And like I said I put this drink together myself. And at the end of the day (wes) I feel better.
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OP needs a psychiatrist.
Need to detox your liver? Simple. Stop taxing it.
Oh, you can't stop? See line 1.
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Amazing, bro science?
"Wiggs science", many, many, many steps below bro science.
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"Wiggs science", many, many, many steps below bro science.
Good point! Then it shall be written in stone!
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81llj1GEo6L._SY450_.jpg)
I have proof on paper they work.
I was in the upper end of normal, and after a month on this product I was in the mid-normal range.
This product, or detox products in general?
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Yeah, I'm pretty much here everyday. For like the last 12 years. Distilled water is fine to assist with detox for a short period of time, just make sure to supplement your essential minerals.
Well played.
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Supplements aren't regulated and they can claim anything. The ingredients are not even accurate on many of the labels. Most have a distributed by on the label but that doesn't tell you where it was made. Most of the clinical studies that they all seem to print in their advertisements is a scam.
If you want to take care of your liver don't take steroids, limit your alcohol and stay lean to keep visceral fat away. Drinking cucumber juice with vitamin C, B1 and other crap is doing nothing for your liver.
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OP needs a psychiatrist.
Need to detox your liver? Simple. Stop taxing it.
Oh, you can't stop? See line 1.
You have been on get big for five minutes son, relax a bit enjoy the ride. I would love to take your advice, however, our environment is very toxic.
Hope this helps!
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Supplements aren't regulated and they can claim anything. The ingredients are not even accurate on many of the labels. Most have a distributed by on the label but that doesn't tell you where it was made. Most of the clinical studies that they all seem to print in their advertisements is a scam.
If you want to take care of your liver don't take steroids, limit your alcohol and stay lean to keep visceral fat away. Drinking cucumber juice with vitamin C, B1 and other crap is doing nothing for your liver.
I agree full heartedly, however, some of us have chosen a different path and are interested in assisting the body's essential vital functions. None the less, I still believe we live in a very toxic world and naturally assisting it with some proven products it a good idea, IMO...again IMO.
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I have that specific product.
Big horse-dick sized pills, but its cool as I have zero gag reflex.
Nothing wrong with a horse-dick.. no homo .. ;D
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dont intoxicate yourself in the first place...
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I have that specific product.
Big horse-dick sized pills, but its cool as I have zero gag reflex.
Ever try N2GUARD?
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Does that shit really work? I always feel like those liver detox things are snake oil.
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Good point! Then it shall be written in stone!
You are a very learned and erudite man.
I'd Dutch Rudder you.
Possibly homo.
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You are a very learned and erudite man.
I'd Dutch Rudder you.
Possibly homo.
We should probably start with a rusty trombone. Dutch stuff is just a little to personal, no homo.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81llj1GEo6L._SY450_.jpg)
I have proof on paper they work.
I was in the upper end of normal, and after a month on this product I was in the mid-normal range.
For real? Did anything else change like cutting back on booze or orals?
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dont into xicate yourself in the first place...
Hey there is Ubandick with his amazing 2 cents. Yay, always happy to hear your Einstein like post. Wake up dick... this world we live in, air, water, food, and so on are toxic...
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We should probably start with a rusty trombone. Dutch stuff is just a little to personal, no homo.
I figured you to be an Anilingus connoisseur
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We all make certain life choices, friend.
stfu retard, im not ur friend.
It's all fun and games until you re in the ER shitting and pissing blood.
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Hey there is Ubandick with his amazing 2 cents. Yay, always happy to hear your Einstein like post. Wake up dick... this world we live in, air, water, food, and so on are toxic...
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your stupidity is toxic.
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You can't detox your body no matter what ingredients you put together. Pseudoscientific crap.
This. All the medical literature out there shows these various detox things to be completely imaginative, and pure 100% baloney.
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This. All the medical literature out there shows these various detox things to be completely imaginative, and pure 100% baloney.
Yet, people still fall for it. Its baffling how people continue to do things that are demonstrably false.
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stfu retard, im not ur friend.
It's all fun and games until you re in the ER shitting and pissing blood.
I'm pretty sure no one is your friend. ..
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Yet, people still fall for it. Its baffling how people continue to do things that are demonstrably false.
Do you believe in liver support?
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best recipe is probably to stop taking massive amounts of roids ::)
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I feel better after a few days of my shake, but like is said, I make my own. To each his own. Do some research and experiment and make your own decision.
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Do you believe in liver support?
Detox is not a way to support your liver.
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Most people don't have a healthy body. They just think they do...Water fast with lemon...Work your way up to a 10 day fast. Try to do a 10 ten fast once a year at least...Also try cutting back to eating 5 days a week.(4 on 1 off 1 on 1 off). Number one problem is people are eating too much...
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Detox is not a way to support your liver.
My question to you is, do you believe in liver support?
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Some foods help the liver just like a drinking binge can harm your liver
Common sense No shit :D
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ALL of these products/methods you guys are recommending are absolute shit and completely stone age.
The ONLY legal supplement that is actually proven to work is called TUDCA (Tauroursodeoxycholic acid). It is the taurine conjugate form of of UDCA (Ursodeoxycholic acid, or Ursodiol) which is the only FDA approved drug to treat primary biliary cirrhosis.
It not only is the only proven product evaluated and tested to reverse cirrhosis, hepatitis and inhibits apoptosis but it also has a slew of other benefits as well.
Since it came out a few years ago it is even taken on heavy oral cycles and liver enzymes come back normal time and time again (see logs in other message boards).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23592128 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23592128)
http://www.currenttherapeuticres.com/article/S0011-393X%2805%2980659-9/abstract (http://www.currenttherapeuticres.com/article/S0011-393X%2805%2980659-9/abstract)
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/07/tauroursodeoxycholic-acid-tudca.html (http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/07/tauroursodeoxycholic-acid-tudca.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauroursodeoxycholic_acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauroursodeoxycholic_acid)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17436368 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17436368)
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Just get a liver transplant.
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Just get a liver transplant.
:D
Have you checked into a face transplant for yourself?
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Lots of sun an sleep.
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Garlic clove, tbls ginger,tbls apple vinegar, tbls extra virgin olive oil, 1/2 lemon, 1/2 grapefruit, milk thistle, and 16 ounces of green tea. I put it in my protein shaker and drink it in the morning.
How about you guys?
Bullshit. After you digest that crap in it's chemicals, proteins and so on, it has nothing to improve your liver. Let me tell you a little secret: There isn't such thing as liver detox. There isn't such thing as kidney detox. Enemas doesn't do anything to you. Only thing which de facto improve your health in real world, is healthy diet, not smoking and not using alcohol. Everything else is just plain bullshit which is intended to make you buy crap which you don't need ;D
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Every morning 1 lemon in the Magic Bullet.
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Every morning 1 lemon in the Magic Bullet.
You get just same effect by drinking 1 cup of water, and taking 500mg pill of vitamin c.
Hope this helps..
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Liver and kineys fail from lack of exercise and too much meat
A coulple shits per day to be in the clear