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Title: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2015, 07:07:03 AM
After going to a lot of clubs over the weekend featuring some of the world's top DJs I noticed one common thing.  None of them actually DJ.  They all have Macbooks and all the music premixed and ready to go.  I noticed at one club the DJ wasn't wearing headphones and had his hands up fist pumping while I noticed the song mixing to another.  How the fuck was he doing this handless?  Mixing with his dick?  They pay these big names who just essentially make a mixed tape at home, show up and press play and get paid a shitload of money for a few hours.

Son, I was dissapoint.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: denarii on January 13, 2015, 07:23:54 AM
U offered to suck him off under the turn tables but realised that tbombz had beaten you to the prize?
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Rambone on January 13, 2015, 07:27:47 AM
People are too fucked up on drugs to even notice or care. Generation nothingness
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: BigRo on January 13, 2015, 07:53:27 AM
do guys like Carl Cox and John Digweed do this?
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Henda on January 13, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
at our local nightclub if you went often enough you knew the order the songs would come on. No big names there though
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Stan Diego on January 13, 2015, 08:34:45 AM
do guys like Carl Cox and John Digweed do this?

No, but they are the exception these days. Doc Martin & DJ Harvey still keep it real too...
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2015, 08:35:36 AM
do guys like Carl Cox and John Digweed do this?

Isn't Carl Cox too bust rubbing one out?
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: thebigman on January 13, 2015, 08:35:49 AM
do guys like Carl Cox and John Digweed do this?

No, they do actually mix. However most of the music is digital now, and syncing of the tracks tempo is often just left to the software or devices the tracks are being played on. The skill of the DJ is now more about programming - choosing the best tracks to play at the right time to take the crowd on a journey.

Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2015, 08:41:29 AM
No, they do actually mix. However most of the music is digital now, and syncing of the tracks tempo is often just left to the software or devices the tracks are being played on. The skill of the DJ is now more about programming - choosing the best tracks to play at the right time to take the crowd on a journey.



Some DJs in Vegas that I saw like Tiesto, Deadmaus and Skrillix were just using macs and most of the times were just dancing with their hands in the air.  Skrillix was basically standing up on the DJ booth while the music played and mixed itself.  Yet these guys are asking for millions a year to DJ.  I know they have in studio mixes that are mainstream but to call them a club DJ is a little bit of a far stretch.  You just don't get that true deep in your stomach bass with mp3 that you do with vinyl.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: thebigman on January 13, 2015, 09:14:28 AM
Some DJs in Vegas that I saw like Tiesto, Deadmaus and Skrillix were just using macs and most of the times were just dancing with their hands in the air.  Skrillix was basically standing up on the DJ booth while the music played and mixed itself.  Yet these guys are asking for millions a year to DJ.  I know they have in studio mixes that are mainstream but to call them a club DJ is a little bit of a far stretch.  You just don't get that true deep in your stomach bass with mp3 that you do with vinyl.

Yes, they might well just play a premixed set. Tiesto didn't use to, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did now.

There is a good article from a while back on Mixmag's site:

http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/is-edm-killing-the-art-of-djing

Also, this doesn't help the cause - Sander van Doorn, Laidback Luke and Steve Aoki all together not exactly DJing much:


Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Skorp1o on January 13, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
I was stood next to David Morales years ago and he was tearing it up all by himself....awesome night.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2015, 09:20:46 AM
Yes, they might well just play a premixed set. Tiesto didn't use to, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did now.

There is a good article from a while back on Mixmag's site:

http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/is-edm-killing-the-art-of-djing

Also, this doesn't help the cause - Sander van Doorn, Laidback Luke and Steve Aoki all together not exactly DJing much:



Good article.  I find it a bit hypocritical that Deadmau5 is commenting in that article when he was one that I saw in vegas not wearing headphones with hands in the air while the music played.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 09:29:52 AM
they would never allow that shit to happen here...
Fuck guys like Tiesto and all that commercial radio club music.

Carl Cox, Digweed would never do that shit, lol...

Can see today's crop of useless shits doing that however.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 13, 2015, 09:37:19 AM
they would never allow that shit to happen here...
Fuck guys like Tiesto and all that commercial radio club music.

Carl Cox, Digweed would never do that shit, lol...

Can see today's crop of useless shits doing that however.

This. Certainly a different crowd, they'd get booed off the decks if tried to pull that shit. The imitation is what so called EPIC dance music shitheads does (Tiesto, Avici, Axwell, etc..). That's pure pornography. A good real dj in action is nice to witness (Stephan Bodzin for ex.), pure awesomeness. Their music is on a diff level too. Guys like Digweed are an excellent producers, actually any dj that's worth listening is a producer too,
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: BigRo on January 13, 2015, 10:04:58 AM
http://www.mixcloud.com/CarlCox/carl-cox-global-616-live-from-hyte-berlin/ oh yes oh yes!
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Red Hook on January 13, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
where have you been? this has been the norm for years now. It got so bad that I knew the next song due to the DJs playing the same sequence of songs

Wear a ski hat, some clothes that don't match and pump your first... ever so often say something on the mic...nail hot chicks
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
This. Certainly a different crowd, they'd get booed off the decks if tried to pull that shit. The imitation is what so called EPIC dance music shitheads does (Tiesto, Avici, Axwell, etc..). That's pure pornography. A good real dj in action is nice to witness (Stephan Bodzin for ex.), pure awesomeness. Their music is on a diff level too. Guys like Digweed are an excellent producers, actually any dj that's worth listening is a producer too,

Gotta respect those who produce, whole new level of dedication...
I still go out once a month or so, just feel so wrecked after, been at this since '98, losing steam, lol.... I am a true vet and last man standing of the guys who were in the scene way back...

Never had people on cell phones as you see now in clubs, I'd stop the music if I were spining, then would say "Gonna get right back to it when you all stop... Texting!!!"

Stereo afterhours here even has a sign requesting people not text on the dancefloor. Generation nothingness is totally fuckin' up the vibe. They can't even dance all night,even on drugs, too tired, fuckin' pussies.... Meanwhile,, me the oldest or one of the oldest dudes there closes the place down everytime...

Someone has to show em how it's done. Yes it sounds cocky, but I'm not joking...
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 13, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
Gotta respect those who produce, whole new level of dedication...
I still go out once a month or so, just feel so wrecked after, been at this since '98, losing steam, lol.... I am a true vet and last man standing of the guys who were in the scene way back...

Never had people on cell phones as you see now in clubs, I'd stop the music if I were spining, then would say "Gonna get right back to it when you all stop... Texting!!!"

Stereo afterhours here even has a sign requesting people not text on the dancefloor. Generation nothingness is totally fuckin' up the vibe. They can't even dance all night,even on drugs, too tired, fuckin' pussies.... Meanwhile,, me the oldest or one of the oldest dudes there closes the place down everytime...

Someone has to show em how it's done. Yes it sounds cocky, but I'm not joking...

I hear ya. I have some friends who are over 45 and never miss a good gig still and it's a pleasure to party with them as they know what's up (so do I, even tho I'm a lot younger, but been at it for over ten years already too). You can spot people who know what its all about easily these days, they are a lot fever than drugged up clowns.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
I hear ya. I have some friends who are over 45 and never miss a good gig still and it's a pleasure to party with them as they know what's up (so do I, even tho I'm a lot younger, but been at it for over ten years already too). You can spot people who know what its all about easily these days, they are a lot fever than drugged up clowns.

well said man.
If ever in Montreal and wanna check something out, by all means!
Will add a "no homo" so the rest don't think I'm some cock seeker, lol....

Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2015, 10:49:01 AM
well said man.
If ever in Montreal and wanna check something out, by all means!
Will add a "no homo" so the rest don't think I'm some cock seeker, lol....



too bad about the "no homo" as I was about to book a ticket to Montreal.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 13, 2015, 10:54:03 AM
well said man.
If ever in Montreal and wanna check something out, by all means!
Will add a "no homo" so the rest don't think I'm some cock seeker, lol....



Thank's for the offer. It'd be a looong fligh man, I'd need some MDMA to keep myself entertained during it lol (don't need any for the actual parties tho'. I love the music.)...
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: WoogsRaven on January 13, 2015, 10:55:22 AM
Saw John Digweed at both Pacha and Space in Ibiza 2001.(among many, many other top DJ's) Up close and intimate. Amazing experience and he definitely was mixing with the utmost in audible expertise.

Used to see Deep Dish all the time in D.C. when they had a residency here. Those guys are amazing producers and have worked with some huge names in the music industry.


Now 41, I haven't seen a good act in over a decade. But I'm starting to get drawn back into it very slowly.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Pork_Chop on January 13, 2015, 10:56:40 AM
Original 1990 raver here. Biology, Hypnosis, Ibiza.

Opening night at Renaissance, Cream and Silver Slipper (renamed later as Miss Money Penny's)

And my opinion is that these clowns aren't DJ's and producers of good tunes don't always make good DJ's either.

SL1200's, mixer and a booming sound-system are the only way to party.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Tapeworm on January 13, 2015, 10:58:01 AM
Lack of fitness.  Last time I went dancing, most of the young ones bailed out before even putting their left foot in.  The few remaining couldn't even shake it all about.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Costanza on January 13, 2015, 12:13:56 PM
Lack of fitness.  Last time I went dancing, most of the young ones bailed out before even putting their left foot in.  The few remaining couldn't even shake it all about.

Typical youth of today. That's what it's all about...bailing.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 13, 2015, 03:22:58 PM
Saw John Digweed at both Pacha and Space in Ibiza 2001.(among many, many other top DJ's) Up close and intimate. Amazing experience and he definitely was mixing with the utmost in audible expertise.

Used to see Deep Dish all the time in D.C. when they had a residency here. Those guys are amazing producers and have worked with some huge names in the music industry.


Now 41, I haven't seen a good act in over a decade. But I'm starting to get drawn back into it very slowly.

Get more involved again and I gurantee you will find some dimes in a current pool of dj's/producers/parties. You just need to search more and be more assertive, it was easier back then, before the scene became flooded with talentless crap and commercial epic pop.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Marty Champions on January 13, 2015, 03:36:20 PM
Haha parties  :o :o

Stay home read electricity
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 13, 2015, 03:57:58 PM
Haha parties  :o :o

Stay home read electricity

There's a lot of electricity used in parties (for light effects, sound, etc..). You'd like it.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Man of Steel on January 13, 2015, 06:07:19 PM
After going to a lot of clubs over the weekend featuring some of the world's top DJs I noticed one common thing.  None of them actually DJ.  They all have Macbooks and all the music premixed and ready to go.  I noticed at one club the DJ wasn't wearing headphones and had his hands up fist pumping while I noticed the song mixing to another.  How the fuck was he doing this handless?  Mixing with his dick?  They pay these big names who just essentially make a mixed tape at home, show up and press play and get paid a shitload of money for a few hours.

Son, I was dissapoint.

Yes, they push play on an Ipod.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Thank's for the offer. It'd be a looong fligh man, I'd need some MDMA to keep myself entertained during it lol (don't need any for the actual parties tho'. I love the music.)...

just speed for me... Love the music (been in shitty environments just to be in the music...) but need my speed or I can't close. But... Closing means me leaving at 10-11am next day. Will go to 4pm next day if the place stays open! So without drugs, that's not possible, neither is me dancing, lol!!!

Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
too bad about the "no homo" as I was about to book a ticket to Montreal.

 :D
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: cart@@n on January 13, 2015, 06:30:52 PM
Yet they are perceived as very talented musicians and get lots of money, fame and worship.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: HTexan on January 13, 2015, 07:58:12 PM
In the world of shitty auto tune music, and talentless artist like drake. It is only natural that DJs just push the play button on their trakor computer rig and let it mix the music for them.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: calfzilla on January 14, 2015, 04:57:31 AM
I went to this one club once and the dj was great. Every song me and my friends were like hell yeah on of our favorites. We went back the next week or so and they had some other dude who totally sucked. Sucked so bad I wish I would have remembered his name so I could spread the word.  :-X
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: CalvinH on January 14, 2015, 05:20:03 AM
I go to clubs where people actually play instruments.
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Post by: oldtimer1 on January 14, 2015, 06:26:13 AM
DJ's are a scam today. They just push play and maybe a couple of times mix into another song. Just complete bs. Same with many bands who have so many recorded tracks mixed in. Saw a band without a bass player but heard a bass in every song. Seeing more and more bands reading the lyrics to the song off of ipads on stands. Even wedding bands are lip syncing some of their songs. I wouldn't pay a penny to see an act like Beyonce where she lip syncs 85% of the songs but it seems generation nothing just doesn't care. Some hits on the radio are made with out single musician playing just computer generations.

Real music is outstanding. It's outstanding even with flaws.  Some people can't even listen to real music because they are so use to engineered music it sounds off to them. I saw David Sanborn the jazz saxophone guy. Every one in the band was completely top shelf from the drums, bass, guitar, keyboard and percussionist. He blew the roof off the venue with real music played by musicians.
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Post by: Rambone on January 14, 2015, 07:29:10 AM
I go to clubs where people actually play instruments.

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Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 14, 2015, 08:42:28 AM
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LOL!!!
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Post by: CalvinH on January 14, 2015, 09:08:21 AM
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Nope, never seen Jethro Tull.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: WoogsRaven on January 14, 2015, 09:13:31 AM
Get more involved again and I gurantee you will find some dimes in a current pool of dj's/producers/parties. You just need to search more and be more assertive, it was easier back then, before the scene became flooded with talentless crap and commercial epic pop.

Very true...I move a lot between D.C. and Baltimore so there's always parties to find.

I would very likely be the oldest person at these parties but fuck it. I always will love progressive house music.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: ritch on January 14, 2015, 09:24:31 AM
Get more involved again and I gurantee you will find some dimes in a current pool of dj's/producers/parties. You just need to search more and be more assertive, it was easier back then, before the scene became flooded with talentless crap and commercial epic pop.

This is what FB is good for. You can be in the know to all happening in your area music/party wise. You can chat up dj's you like and find some good people!
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 14, 2015, 12:32:20 PM
I would guess its because most of these guys are primarily producers and not DJ's but as is mentioned already, lots of pouser fakes out there too.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: SquidVicious on January 14, 2015, 01:21:12 PM
Real DJs like Jazzy Jeff is where it's at.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 14, 2015, 03:46:41 PM
Very true...I move a lot between D.C. and Baltimore so there's always parties to find.

I would very likely be the oldest person at these parties but fuck it. I always will love progressive house music.

The thing is (with this kind of music and public who like it) - there's no "age limit", and noone cares at all, just be comfortable with yourself and chances are you will make some new friends easily.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: da_vinci on January 14, 2015, 03:48:39 PM
This is what FB is good for. You can be in the know to all happening in your area music/party wise. You can chat up dj's you like and find some good people!

Indeed, FB is perfect for stuff like that.

oldtimer>I listen to lots of jazz and other "live" music, it's just that music can be created with a computer too now, and computer is a new instrument. Plenty of quality electornic music, you just need to get a grip of it.
Title: Re: Today's Club DJs are utter shit fakes
Post by: HTexan on January 14, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
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