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Besides the fact he's a lazy fuck and in fact, one of them...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2015/01/13/rush-limbaugh-cites-underlying-rationale-obama-not-going-paris?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=marketing&utm_term=facebook&utm_content=facebook&utm_campaign=limbaugh-obama-paris
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Maybe he was following Bush's example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2004_Madrid_train_bombings
When 191 people in Madrid were blown up in a train, Bush chatted with the Spanish Ambassador. in Washington, DC. He didn't travel to another continent. NOR SHOULD HE. It's terrible and it sucks, but the pres is a busy guy and aside from just waste tax dollars, why should he go? He can pay respect here, he can give messages of peace and hope and goodwill and assistance here.
I'm sick of you all attacking presidents like Bush or Obama for not abandoning his post every time bad guys attack our allies. Yes, we can provide help and we can nuke some SOBs back to the stone age. But leaving the US isn't always necessary.
Bush did nothing wrong here. neither did obama. Hope this heps.
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Maybe he was following Bush's example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2004_Madrid_train_bombings
When 191 people in Madrid were blown up in a train, Bush chatted with the Spanish Ambassador. in Washington, DC. He didn't travel to another continent. NOR SHOULD HE. It's terrible and it sucks, but the pres is a busy guy and aside from just waste tax dollars, why should he go? He can pay respect here, he can give messages of peace and hope and goodwill and assistance here.
I'm sick of you all attacking presidents like Bush or Obama for not abandoning his post every time bad guys attack our allies. Yes, we can provide help and we can nuke some SOBs back to the stone age. But leaving the US isn't always necessary.
Bush did nothing wrong here. neither did obama. Hope this heps.
Hahahahahah, the obama apologist to the rescue? Lmao
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Was there a march with 1.5 million people that included virtually every European leader as well as Netanyahu and Abbas in Madrid? Was there an opportunity for Bush to make a public show of solidarity with the rest of the civilized world? no..there wasn't. So..they really aren't the same at all.
Hope this helps.... ::)
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Maybe he was following Bush's example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2004_Madrid_train_bombings
When 191 people in Madrid were blown up in a train, Bush chatted with the Spanish Ambassador. in Washington, DC. He didn't travel to another continent. NOR SHOULD HE. It's terrible and it sucks, but the pres is a busy guy and aside from just waste tax dollars, why should he go? He can pay respect here, he can give messages of peace and hope and goodwill and assistance here.
I'm sick of you all attacking presidents like Bush or Obama for not abandoning his post every time bad guys attack our allies. Yes, we can provide help and we can nuke some SOBs back to the stone age. But leaving the US isn't always necessary.
Bush did nothing wrong here. neither did obama. Hope this heps.
I think it's halarious that you frantically Google the shit of someone to try to compare to your messiah. So let's put thigs into prospective because I think you're not very lucid. Bush killed and went after terrorists, obama makes excuses and covers for them. Just because he has a few casualties (which is part of his plan) doesn't mean he doesn't cheer for them.
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Hahahahahah, the obama apologist to the rescue? Lmao
what is it about FACTS that you hate?
Did a fact touch you in your no-no place? lol
dude, bush wasn't wrong for not visiting, and obama isn't wrong for not visiting. Would have been nice if they did, but not required.
Was there a march with 1.5 million people that included virtually every European leader as well as Netanyahu and Abbas in Madrid? Was there an opportunity for Bush to make a public show of solidarity with the rest of the civilized world? no..there wasn't. So..they really aren't the same at all.
Hope this helps.... ::)
1.5 million? No.
They had 11 million actually. Bush still didn't go. Shouldn't have to. Paid his respects. Libs shit on him for it, but he handled it as he saw fit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2004_Madrid_train_bombings
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Blame Bush rofl. Bush derangement syndrome is hard to cure... 240 you've become a laughing stock man.
Let's do a test shall we...
For 24 hours, when you defend Obama, you cant invoke something anyone else did. Just defend his actions. I don't think any of you mentally deformed libtards can do... Even for 24 hours.
When you knuckleheads were ripping Bush for 8 years, would " well Jimmy Carter did it too!!! " have been a valid response. It makes me chuckle to even see that in writing. Thats how silly you sound too.
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Besides the fact he's a lazy fuck and in fact, one of them...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2015/01/13/rush-limbaugh-cites-underlying-rationale-obama-not-going-paris?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=marketing&utm_term=facebook&utm_content=facebook&utm_campaign=limbaugh-obama-paris
Yet, you complain about the amount used for traveling expenses... ::)
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Maybe he was following Bush's example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2004_Madrid_train_bombings
When 191 people in Madrid were blown up in a train, Bush chatted with the Spanish Ambassador. in Washington, DC. He didn't travel to another continent. NOR SHOULD HE. It's terrible and it sucks, but the pres is a busy guy and aside from just waste tax dollars, why should he go? He can pay respect here, he can give messages of peace and hope and goodwill and assistance here.
I'm sick of you all attacking presidents like Bush or Obama for not abandoning his post every time bad guys attack our allies. Yes, we can provide help and we can nuke some SOBs back to the stone age. But leaving the US isn't always necessary.
Bush did nothing wrong here. neither did obama. Hope this heps.
This is where the phrase "making a mountain out of molehill" comes from. Not one American will lose sleep over the fact that a "senior" American official did not go to Paris for this rally. No American citizen died because Obama, Biden, Kerry, or Holder did not attend. No money was wasted because they did not attend, and yes, the American ambassador to France did attend. Was the high level American presence regrettable? Barely. This is not something I would have apologized for. On the scale of "mistakes" an Administration can make, I would much rather see this sort of thing than plunging the nation into endless wars (Vietnam, Iraq) that kill and maim hundreds of thousands and wastes a trillion dollars of taxpayer funds. Did anyone ever apologize for that $8 billion in American cash that mysteriously disappeared during the rebuilding of Iraq? ::)
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the dopey far right will never be happy, spend to much on travel or why the hell didn't he travel :D :D
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the dopey far right will never be happy, spend to much on travel or why the hell didn't he travel :D :D
Wrong. We all know the real reason:
My grandmother is a typical white person...
The cops acted stupidly...
If I had a son he would look like Trayvon...
The attackers were brown and the victims white. Period.
If this had been a few white supremacists storming a Mousque and killing 17 brownies, he would have been all over this like stink on shit.
If you don't see it by now you are just dumb, and the brownies who do see it love it. Sad sad group of people.
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And if obama would have went to paris coach would have started a serious thread about how obama lacks respect for the people that died because he is a muslim and probably is spying for al quaida when he is talking with all the world leaders
but other then that...yes obama is a peace of shit but not because of this
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Wrong. We all know the real reason:
My grandmother is a typical white person...
The cops acted stupidly...
If I had a son he would look like Trayvon...
The attackers were brown and the victims white. Period.
If this had been a few white supremacists storming a Mousque and killing 17 brownies, he would have been all over this like stink on shit.
If you don't see it by now you are just dumb, and the brownies who do see it love it. Sad sad group of people.
like I said the dopey right was going to complain either way :D
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Personally Im glad Obama stayed home as he is a jihadi islaminazi sympathizer in his own right
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Personally Im glad Obama stayed home as he is a jihadi islaminazi sympathizer in his own right
I wonder, are you as dysfunctional in life as you are on message boards? Did you not vow to leave getbig if your candidate of choice didn't win the last presidential election? Complaining to the mods and choosing a new alias did not help: you are still a fool. Bah ha ha ha
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Personally Im glad Obama stayed home as he is a jihadi islaminazi sympathizer in his own right
This is a fact
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Blame Bush rofl. Bush derangement syndrome is hard to cure... 240 you've become a laughing stock man.
Let's do a test shall we...
For 24 hours, when you defend Obama, you cant invoke something anyone else did. Just defend his actions. I don't think any of you mentally deformed libtards can do... Even for 24 hours.
When you knuckleheads were ripping Bush for 8 years, would " well Jimmy Carter did it too!!! " have been a valid response. It makes me chuckle to even see that in writing. Thats how silly you sound too.
read it again. I say there's nothing wrong with Bush not going to Madrid, and nothing wrong with Obama not going. I'm not "blaming" either of them.
Bad shit is going to happen in the world. It's nice when we send our leader, but not required. 11 million people marched for madrid bombings, and Bush didn't go. AND ITS OKAY!
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Besides the fact he's a lazy fuck and in fact, one of them...
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have started this thread if you knew Bush didn't bother going to Madrid and stand with 11 million people against terrorists.
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I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have started this thread if you knew Bush didn't bother going to Madrid and stand with 11 million people against terrorists.
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lol so youre reading this thread closely but not responding, gotcha ;)
It would have been nice if obama visited, but not required.
It would have been nice if Bush attended, but again, not required.
I don't fault either man for it.
But I'm guessing you fault just one of them, amirite?
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your shtick is getting old 240....
at this point someone could say 'the sky is blue' and you would dig up and post some arguement saying the sky isnt blue.
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your shtick is getting old 240....
at this point someone could say 'the sky is blue' and you would dig up and post some arguement saying the sky isnt blue.
He would have to Google that too.
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I don't like Bush and I don't like Obama. I will likely not like his replacement. But since when is pointing out Bush acted in a very similar manner "defending" Obama and not simply just pointing out a closed minded post?
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He would have to Google that too.
you never start this thread if you knew Bush didn't go to madrid. lol.
you sti refuse to criticize bush for it? I bet 333386 has the balls to call bush a piece of shit for it, if he feels obama is a piece of shit for it. I don't think you will tho. :(
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I don't like Bush and I don't like Obama. I will likely not like his replacement. But since when is pointing out Bush acted in a very similar manner "defending" Obama and not simply just pointing out a closed minded post?
Good question.
Then again, we're talking about people that take their orders from the TV and radio, seemingly without mind. See the "immigration reform" subject for a perfect example.
These guys are a terrible joke on the rest of us. They need to get a grip on something other than the nearest cock.
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Why Obama was probably right not to go the Paris rally
By Kathleen Parker
If we can be serious for a moment: The president made an error in judgment by not sending someone with a higher profile than our ambassador to join world leaders Sunday at a solidarity rally in Paris.
The White House has admitted the error.
This more or less sums up the news of the past two days, but you wouldn’t guess it from the coverage and commentary. Based on the nearly 24-hour rehashing of the administration’s failure to assume a more important role at the rally, you’d think the United States had dropped out of NATO.
I’m not usually mistaken for an Obama advocate, but I’m finding it difficult to embrace the direness of his uncharacteristic disobedience to stagecraft. The lead headline in Monday’s New York Daily News instructed the president: “You let the world down.”
Really? The United States has been leading the world in the fight against terror for well over a decade, and the president let down the world by not appearing at a rally?
Don’t get me wrong. The rally was important. Beautiful and profound, it was a consummate expression of the modern world’s commitment to end the madness of terrorism. I loved every moment of it and, as both a reporter and a member of the human race, which are not always mutually exclusive, I longed to be there.
I also would have enjoyed seeing our president among the 44 leaders who attended. But who really doubts the United States’ commitment to fighting terrorism or supporting the French in this moment of crisis? Certainly not the French. Not the terrorists. And certainly not our military men and women who have sacrificed blood and limb in the fight.
Thus, it seems we might reserve our high dudgeon for the murderous actors rather than the administration’s decision to send only U.S. Ambassador Jane Hartley. Poor Hartley. She has been so minimized by President Obama’s critics that chopped liver sneers with contempt.
Realistically, it is entirely possible that Obama’s advisers considered the terrorist threat in France sufficient to keep him away — not out of fear or lack of courage, as some commenters have suggested, but out of an abundance of caution. As important as all leaders are in the conduct of man’s moment on the planet, none is as important to the enemies of freedom as the president of the United States.
Obama the man may not be able to alter the position of stars or rewind the tides, but Obama the president can move crowds — or inspire havoc. All it takes is just one of the thousands of jihadists believed to be living in France to pull a stunt with the U.S. president in attendance and the world teeters.
Moreover, anyone who has traveled with a president knows that preparations are elaborate and time-intensive. Dozens upon dozens of people work weeks or months in advance to plan and arrange such an expedition, coordinating security in the host country, mapping routes and timing details to the minute.
One reporter in Monday’s White House news briefing pointed out that Obama was able to get to Nelson Mandela’s memorial service on short notice. Why not Paris? Press secretary Josh Earnest responded that the Mandela memorial plans had been in the works for years. Spoiler alert: Reporters write important people’s obituaries long before those people die, as well.
More to the point, South Africa hadn’t just suffered a terrorist attack. In fact, it was such a relaxed occasion that one would have been comfortable taking selfies in the middle of the ceremony.
In the grand scheme of things, Obama’s calculation may be unpopular but was probably the right one. No disrespect to France’s ability to handle security around an enormous crowd while still reeling from a terrorist attack, but Obama’s presence unquestionably would have added several more layers of concern, logistical headaches and, not inconceivably, imposed greater risk for the throng.
Attorney General Eric Holder, who was in Paris at the time, would not have been so problematic. Or Vice President Biden could have made the trip. In hindsight, one of them should have filled the void. But beyond the historic optics, there was no rational reason to expect the president to be there. In fact, one could reasonably argue that his going would have been a dereliction of duty, given the potential risks.
What France and other nations need from us is support, sympathy and, most of all, intelligence. Symbolic gestures have their place in diplomacy and war, but sometimes the wiser act is playing it safe.
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Bullshit. It's because he's a sympathizer. He won't even utter the words "Radical Muslin Terrorist" If you can't see this then there's hope you.
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LOL! Coach, you crack me up. Well written article with great points... and that's your response? ::)
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That's what is lacking at Getbig. Any real dialogue. This is a great example. Its like talking to fence posts
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LOL! Coach, you crack me up. Well written article with great points... and that's your response? ::)
Seriously, what else do you expect.
Most people wouldn't waste 5 seconds trying to engage in a conversation in real life with people like Coach, 333, etc..
Message boards create a way for these idiots to vomit up their fucked up view of the world and have people take them seriously (at least for a certain amount of time)
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Seriously, what else do you expect.
Most people wouldn't waste 5 seconds trying to engage in a conversation in real life with people like Coach, 333, etc..
Message boards create a way for these idiots to vomit up their fucked up view of the world and have people take them seriously (at least for a certain amount of time)
That's poetry, what you just did..
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LOL! Coach, you crack me up. Well written article with great points... and that's your response? ::)
Obama is well spoken (when in front of a prompter) but that doesn't make him any less blind. This is the same person who put a hit job on Palin. Look, even the most of the republican commentators and writers won't say it. Do you really think I'm the only one who thinks this guy covers for him own? Yes....these people are his own.
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Look, even the most of the republican commentators and writers won't say it.
HERE is the problem. Everything is suddenly part of a vast conspiracy, that the haters are too scared to admit, but only some brave internet warriors have the balls to say it huh?
look, how the fck can you trust these republican voices, if you accuse them of covering for obama? That kind of inconsistency is the problem. Bush isn't wrong for skipping madrid, but bush is? They're both wrong, or they're both right. There is no "well, they both skipped it, but the motivation is what makes it wrong".
That's just pussy shit right there. Tha'ts just not having the balls to shit on bush. They're both right, or they're both wrong. I think it's fine Bush didn't go. it's a fcking terror attack zone, we're in 2 wars, our economy sucks, and now we're learning the US capitol was also being targeted at the same time? all over the news last night.
IMAGINE if obama was overseas playing footsie at a memorial and we're hit here at home. Imagine the republican outcry.
Shit, there are lots of reasons to hate obama (and bush). But skipping a memorial isnt' one of them. fuck, i miss the days when repubs weren't so selectively offended.
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LOL! Coach, you crack me up. Well written article with great points... and that's your response? ::)
I know, right? Kathleen Parker is a conservative columnist... and even she gets it. ::)
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Seriously, what else do you expect.
Most people wouldn't waste 5 seconds trying to engage in a conversation in real life with people like Coach, 333, etc..
Message boards create a way for these idiots to vomit up their fucked up view of the world and have people take them seriously (at least for a certain amount of time)
Lol. Coming from a leftist Bay Area lib that is funny
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Lol. Coming from a leftist Bay Area lib that is funny
What's the term they use in debate when you attack a person to avoid addressing the point the person made? :)
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What's the term they use in debate when you attack a person to avoid addressing the point the person made? :)
Ad hominem. For example, attacking someone's kid, calling someone a "queer" or "closet case" pretty much every day, etc. Or in other words, doing precisely what the Village Idiot does every day.
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What's the term they use in debate when you attack a person to avoid addressing the point the person made? :)
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I know, right? Kathleen Parker is a conservative columnist... and even she gets it. ::)
She has her views, I have mine. I'm more blatant with my views. Like I said, I'm sure more people can't help to think that Obama is in fact one of them, sympathizes with them and makes excuses for them. In other words, they think the same thing I do and won't say it because they're public figures. Let's face it, he released five more detainee's that are from Yemen. Seriously, think about it.
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She has her views, I have mine. I'm more blatant with my views. Like I said, I'm sure more people can't help to think that Obama is in fact one of them, sympathizes with them and makes excuses for them. In other words, they think the same thing I do and won't say it because they're public figures. Let's face it, he released five more detainee's that are from Yemen. Seriously, think about it.
He's broken the law with fast & furious. Repubs own the house and senate. Public opinion is behind it.
And you think he's a terr'ist sympathizer?
coach, why the fck do you still not support impeachment?
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Ad hominem. For example, attacking someone's kid, calling someone a "queer" or "closet case" pretty much every day, etc. Or in other words, doing precisely what the Village Idiot does every day.
only when he acts like a self loathing closet queen
I've offered to stop pointing out that he's acting like a self loathing closet queen if he can just stop acting like one
I thought that was a fair offer
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He's broken the law with fast & furious. Repubs own the house and senate. Public opinion is behind it.
And you think he's a terr'ist sympathizer?
coach, why the fck do you still not support impeachment?
Holy shit dude, you really live up to that top 10 list. Fuck.
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Holy shit dude, you really live up to that top 10 list. Fuck.
we should make a list of people that voted for bill clinton, don't support impeachment, but do support amnesty.
they'll have to bitch about obama 24/7, but not be willing to kick his ass outta office for it.
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Let's make a list of all those who voted for Obama and had their entire family vote for Obama. I'll start:
So I probably will vote dem. i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.
My whole family - all Republicans - are voting Obama. i'm driving them to the station later - buying everyone dinner - making it a real family event.
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She has her views, I have mine. I'm more blatant with my views. Like I said, I'm sure more people can't help to think that Obama is in fact one of them, sympathizes with them and makes excuses for them. In other words, they think the same thing I do and won't say it because they're public figures. Let's face it, he released five more detainee's that are from Yemen. Seriously, think about it.
translation _ Everyone really agrees with my psychotic rantings, they just won't say they do"
How convenient... it removes the possibility they don't agree with you, which is why they haven't said it
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/opinion/editorials/2015/01/editorial_tone_deaf_in_paris