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Title: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:23:54 PM
Vic, prove us all wrong and get in shape for once !
still rooting for you, you can do it
(http://www.maxximum-portal.com/sport/forum/files/victor_206.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:25:01 PM
he does not look healthy
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 21, 2006, 07:25:57 PM
3 weeksout  ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Havenbull on February 21, 2006, 07:27:04 PM
wtf does he have hernias in his forearms
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:28:28 PM
well someone at milos board said it was 3 weeks out, dont know if it is true... hope not
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:29:07 PM
wtf does he have hernias in his forearms

yeah that cannot be normal
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: HRDCOR on February 21, 2006, 07:31:27 PM
I dunno , I aint no expert but that looks 3 months out to me , if it is 3 weeks some of the other guys competting will be going Pheeewww
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:33:52 PM
I dunno , I aint no expert but that looks 3 months out to me , if it is 3 weeks some of the other guys competting will be going Pheeewww

Hey I hope it isn't 3 weeks out too, Vic is my favorite bber.

damn how hard is it to being ready 2 weeks out, if he did that he would always look razor sharp
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:34:37 PM
if he gets in shape in time it'll be a miricle
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 21, 2006, 07:34:41 PM
Those are dianabol tabs that lodged in his veins.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:36:37 PM
I have shit like that in my forearms too but a little smaller, always had them... I dont think it is a hernia
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 21, 2006, 07:47:41 PM
wtf does he have hernias in his forearms
possibl needle injection lumps.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:49:13 PM
I don't think anybody would shoot himself in the forearm dude
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 21, 2006, 07:51:34 PM
I don't think anybody would shoot himself in the forearm dude
sure seen a few guys do it so they wouldn't get track marks from using the same spot.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:52:42 PM
I hope vic turns it around in future he has so much ability! it looks to me like he uses to much of everything he always looks watery and unhealthy! his shape is another thing he seems to be gettin i bit of a gh gut (only a bit but its a concern on someone who has such gud lines)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 07:54:31 PM
nubain?
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 07:55:10 PM
sure seen a few guys do it so they wouldn't get track marks from using the same spot.
Are you serious ? first time i heard about this  ???
I mean with shoulders, glutes, quads, biceps, tricep there is enough spot  ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 21, 2006, 07:56:23 PM
nubain?
;)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: gibberj2 on February 21, 2006, 08:08:31 PM
i used to work out in his gym and i've talked with him a couple times. he's a cool guy. that can't be 3 weeks out. i think he should get his waist smaller in general.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: ARMZ on February 21, 2006, 08:13:06 PM
He looks more like 3 1/2 weeks out
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 08:16:32 PM
He looks more like 3 1/2 weeks out

yeah 3 days make a difference
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2006, 08:17:07 PM
are those bumps on his forearms new?  I've never noticed them before
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 21, 2006, 08:20:00 PM
3 weeks out ? looks like maybe 8 weks out. who knows. if that is the case maybe he can whip himself into shape quickly. need i remind you guys of "levrone". he made a living of doing that
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 08:22:43 PM
Vic is actually always really puffy even 2 weeks out.
Maybe he try to much to get in shape with diuretics and not enough with loosing fat
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 08:23:28 PM
3 weeks out ? looks like maybe 8 weks out. who knows. if that is the case maybe he can whip himself into shape quickly. need i remind you guys of "levrone". he made a living of doing that
yeah but levrone put on size to compete he was always in condition offseason just alot smaller. for vic he has got a lot to lose weight wise
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Peaking at 45 !!! on February 21, 2006, 08:24:29 PM
Wait a minute ?????

I heard he just tore his Pec recently ????????????? ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2006, 08:25:29 PM
Wait a minute ?????
I heard he just tore his Pec recently ????????????? ???

it was a small tear, didn't train chest for 2 weeks and it is ok now
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: michael arvilla on February 21, 2006, 08:26:22 PM
Vic looks wasted in that picture................. ...
(sound factory still closed?)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: MRMD2003 on February 21, 2006, 08:27:26 PM
that is true hillbilly . used to train at levrone's gym. he would go from 230 to about 255 in  about 3 weeks. no bullshit.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on February 21, 2006, 08:31:25 PM

 And this is the guy who they say will be the next mr olympia.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: hillbilly on February 21, 2006, 08:32:37 PM
And this is the guy who they say will be the next mr olympia.

well hes starting to get the gut for it  :D
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: tony b on February 21, 2006, 08:38:10 PM
I thought he was out of the arnold...
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 21, 2006, 09:19:49 PM
Re the bumps on his arms: he's not on the "bain train" is he?? What are those?
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: gibberj2 on February 21, 2006, 10:35:37 PM
what's wrong with bodybuilding? everyone's on the diuretic and look good on that day type stuff way too much. if your bodyfat is really low then the carbing up and losing water and all that stuff won't be such a huge deal. if you're 3 percent bodyfat you won't need any tricks and if you're a little off who cares you're still 3 percent fat.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Unhooked on February 21, 2006, 10:56:41 PM
Vic= High off the Gonja in that pic  ::)  Thats old news, Vic is a big time Pot head.. In most of the pics you see of him, he looks high. Its so easy to tell just by looking at his red blurry eyes..
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: will938 on February 21, 2006, 11:33:19 PM
The lumps look like Lipomas, little fatty deposits under the skin.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Disgusted on February 22, 2006, 12:00:58 AM
If that's 3 weeks out then  :o ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: kreator on February 22, 2006, 12:30:07 AM
This pic of Vic was taken 3-4 weeks ago for Slovenian fans(the sign on his cap), so that makes him 6-7 weeks out
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Bodies on February 22, 2006, 12:40:23 AM
I think those are veins - some of the veins on my forearms look kinda like that if I gooseneck my wrist - not a big a Vic's though!
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 22, 2006, 01:56:50 AM
looks like he just woke up
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Da Freak on February 22, 2006, 03:33:08 AM
This pic of Vic was taken 3-4 weeks ago for Slovenian fans(the sign on his cap), so that makes him 6-7 weeks out

smart post.

he still looks 33 weeks out.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 03:40:12 AM
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Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 03:45:06 AM
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Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 03:46:37 AM
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Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: rocket on February 22, 2006, 04:03:33 AM
His jaw mass gain over the last few years is alarming.

He will rival cutler before long
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 04:08:54 AM
looks more like water retention than actual jaw growth.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 05:15:31 AM
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Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 05:23:30 AM
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Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Da Freak on February 22, 2006, 05:29:48 AM
funny arms  ::)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: analcandy on February 22, 2006, 05:31:39 AM
Those are dianabol tabs that lodged in his veins.

lmfao.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: analcandy on February 22, 2006, 05:37:18 AM
funny arms  ::)
synthol.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 05:49:34 AM
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Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: fathead on February 22, 2006, 07:14:52 AM
him and cormier are going for the best trackmarks award at the arnold       
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: jaejonna on February 22, 2006, 08:43:49 AM
Looks like the Pec Tear Story is BS ...
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: MisterGX on February 22, 2006, 09:23:24 AM
I hope vic turns it around in future he has so much ability! it looks to me like he uses to much of everything he always looks watery and unhealthy! his shape is another thing he seems to be gettin i bit of a gh gut (only a bit but its a concern on someone who has such gud lines)

You guys and this GH gut shit!!  The guy just eats too damn much!!  In that shot, you can obviously see that he isn't in contest shape.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 22, 2006, 09:24:29 AM
Vic doesn't have a gut. Look at the Olympia pics, his waist his as small as small can be
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: MisterGX on February 22, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
Vic is actually always really puffy even 2 weeks out.
Maybe he try to much to get in shape with diuretics and not enough with loosing fat
Bingo!!
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 22, 2006, 09:27:55 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/noc/2003/men/round1/comp02.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Bones on February 22, 2006, 09:43:32 AM
His jaw mass gain over the last few years is alarming.
He will rival cutler before long
  He looks like he just had his wisdom teeth yanked  ;D
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: The Viking on February 22, 2006, 10:22:56 AM
Victor will be great at the Arnold Classic.
That he uses much steroids is natural for al pro`s. I am looking foreward if he still got his lines and symmetry, I don`t think so.
Colememan predicted that he will be the next mr olympia, I don`t see it happening.
If Cormier, Badell and Jackson are on target he will not beat them, so fourth place I guess.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: TrapsMcLats on February 22, 2006, 10:41:02 AM
This guy is the new chris cormier, a career of "what if(s)." What a shame.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: jaejonna on February 22, 2006, 10:43:28 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/noc/2003/men/round1/comp02.jpg)

The guy in the front looks like he is pissed off..
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: shutupandtrain88 on February 22, 2006, 10:46:01 AM
The guy in the front looks like he is pissed off..

looks like he wants to strangle someone
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: brianX on February 22, 2006, 10:53:35 AM
Very high lats.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: toolarge4u on February 22, 2006, 12:56:25 PM
vic looked just like that 3 weeks out from a show last year...and he pulled it together in time. I wouldnt worry about it. He likes to sodium load big time
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 22, 2006, 12:59:18 PM
Very high lats.
vic has amazing lats, let's see a pic of yours brianx.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: toolarge4u on February 22, 2006, 02:19:36 PM
vic has amazing lats, let's see a pic of yours brianx.

...no shit...his back is fucking awesome. Some of the people here kill me.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: LAMA-PAI on February 22, 2006, 07:19:41 PM
fucking hating morons !  i just saw him today and he looks amazine and will be in the hunt for the top three spots and that pic was taken about three months ago in LA
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Stavios on February 22, 2006, 07:34:36 PM
fucking hating morons !  i just saw him today and he looks amazine and will be in the hunt for the top three spots and that pic was taken about three months ago in LA

Thanks a lot for the info !

Do you think he will look better than at the O ?
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: gh15 on February 22, 2006, 07:50:10 PM
100% next mr o. this is a level by itself not for the size but for the muscle quality/size combo.

right now even at that first pic he looks 100 times better than jay and he is a lot but A  LOT bigger than dexter jackson muscle wise.

marvelous shape even with his 9-10% in that first picture.  he's only second to ronnie and even that is coming to an end within 3 years.

the veins in the forarms are simply veins and nothing more than that...veins can look like that in the forarms and shoulders or any other place in the body... and as soon as he's down to 6-7% it will look like what you think veins should look like. it has nothing to do with hormones.

and the unhealthy look you're talkin about is due to water weight and only water weight! there is almost no fat on that body (9-10%) the following hormones will produce that look: any type of test, dianabol/drol tabs, nandrolone but this dude is on primo not on nandrolone, and ofcourse gh. he can be 6% bodyfat within 4-5 weeks from when this first pic was taken. its only water fellas ...only water.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 22, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
Those bumps are most likely what knolwn as "lipoma"...I believe that's how it spelled.  They're harmless fatty deposits found throughout the body, I have a few.  I guess they can be surgically removed, but they're harmless.  When dieted down they kinda shrink, which is what I'm wondering...if these are 3 week out pics, how much does he possibly have to lose?  Hmmm....anyway, from personal experience and reading up on it, they seem to get 'larger' when you're more bulked up (ie, fatter)....which is why bodybuilders seem to get them more than most.  Your average fat guy has loads of em, but you don't see them due to the fat. 

That last bit is speculation on my part, but it makes sense.  I've seem em on others as well, sometimes in the abs.  I'd assume the less fat you put on bulking, the less chance of developing them or making the ones you already have 'larger' ...though in general they're not that large as you can see.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: HeartofSteel on February 22, 2006, 08:23:55 PM
Vic, prove us all wrong and get in shape for once !
still rooting for you, you can do it
(http://www.maxximum-portal.com/sport/forum/files/victor_206.jpg)

Dude, that comment is something else. If you know anything about bodybuilding you would know that Vic holds a tad of water until the very last minute. Not all athletes are the same and so in other words that pic is NOT the show itself, so put your comment on hold cause he's Pro and you obviously NOT!


-HOS
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: brianX on February 22, 2006, 11:35:47 PM
...no shit...his back is fucking awesome. Some of the people here kill me.

I never said he has a bad back. I said that his lats look high from the front. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: brianX on February 22, 2006, 11:43:24 PM
100% next mr o. this is a level by itself not for the size but for the muscle quality/size combo.
right now even at that first pic he looks 100 times better than jay and he is a lot but A  LOT bigger than dexter jackson muscle wise.
marvelous shape even with his 9-10% in that first picture.  he's only second to ronnie and even that is coming to an end within 3 years.
the veins in the forarms are simply veins and nothing more than that...veins can look like that in the forarms and shoulders or any other place in the body... and as soon as he's down to 6-7% it will look like what you think veins should look like. it has nothing to do with hormones.
and the unhealthy look you're talkin about is due to water weight and only water weight! there is almost no fat on that body (9-10%) the following hormones will produce that look: any type of test, dianabol/drol tabs, nandrolone but this dude is on primo not on nandrolone, and ofcourse gh. he can be 6% bodyfat within 4-5 weeks from when this first pic was taken. its only water fellas ...only water.
"Marvelous shape" ... are you blind? His calves are terrible, he has a very noticeable gut, and his biceps look like they're full of oil. He looks like a trainwreck in certain poses.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: gh15 on February 24, 2006, 05:12:34 AM
"Marvelous shape" ... are you blind? His calves are terrible, he has a very noticeable gut, and his biceps look like they're full of oil. He looks like a trainwreck in certain poses.
1) the first pic dont show calves and his calves are good trust me on that.
2) his biceps are not full of oil. we call it water in bodybuilding. you dont grow with out it. the fat% is in the single digits in that pic maybe very low double digits (9-10%)
3) his gut is still smaller than yours when he sits down! (in proportion to body size)..even when he's 15%. thats how imprssive he looks!
4) he's black guy with marvelous genetics on the hormones and actually trains! it cant get better than that.
5) i bet money that he is mr olympia as soon as ron retires! EVEN if he comes in at 255-260 pounds!
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 24, 2006, 06:36:13 AM
1) the first pic dont show calves and his calves are good trust me on that.
2) his biceps are not full of oil. we call it water in bodybuilding. you dont grow with out it. the fat% is in the single digits in that pic maybe very low double digits (9-10%)
3) his gut is still smaller than yours when he sits down! (in proportion to body size)..even when he's 15%. thats how imprssive he looks!
4) he's black guy with marvelous genetics on the hormones and actually trains! it cant get better than that.
5) i bet money that he is mr olympia as soon as ron retires! EVEN if he comes in at 255-260 pounds!
he's latino not black dude.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: jaejonna on February 24, 2006, 07:36:55 AM
His calves looked good here ...
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: jaejonna on February 24, 2006, 07:39:19 AM
Oh yeah he has one of the top three backs in bodybuilding ... hands down (the other two both lift in Arlington)...
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: jaejonna on February 24, 2006, 07:40:18 AM
heres a better pic...
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Bones on February 24, 2006, 09:19:56 AM
he's latino not black dude.
...whatever...there is some negroid in the mix somewhere :D :D
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: CQ on February 24, 2006, 12:07:18 PM
heritage/ethnicity = hispanic

race = black
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 24, 2006, 12:15:43 PM
heritage/ethnicity = hispanic
race = black
i dont understand this post ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: manfromyard on February 24, 2006, 01:51:08 PM
i dont understand this post ???

Latino is not a race. Its an ethnicity. If you have  a black person from Holland, he is Dutch, but he is still black. Victor Martinez is a black latino. Just like you have Chinese Americans, and Indian people who are from England.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Double XL on February 24, 2006, 01:56:43 PM
Latino is not a race. Its an ethnicity. If you have  a black person from Holland, he is Dutch, but he is still black. Victor Martinez is a black latino. Just like you have Chinese Americans, and Indian people who are from England.
oh, i could have sworn vic said he was dominican.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: 2HUGE4U on February 24, 2006, 02:04:11 PM
like the man puts it .......  next .......
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: bald on February 24, 2006, 02:13:09 PM
Big Vic = Mr. O (someday)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 24, 2006, 02:28:50 PM
looks like he wants to strangle someone

Hes been known to do that ::)
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: manfromyard on February 24, 2006, 02:42:39 PM
oh, i could have sworn vic said he was dominican.

The Dominican Republic is 84% Black by America Standards.
Guess what? My Aunt is Jamaican, and she's also Chinese. Your country of origin has nothing to do with your race. Victor is a black Dominican. Ronnie Coleman is a black american. Ernie Taylor is a black Englishman. Pele was a black Brazilian. Are you getting this yet?
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 24, 2006, 03:37:52 PM
i thought he was a new yorker
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Post by: arce377 on February 24, 2006, 04:25:59 PM
Snotroot is RIGHT! :(
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: sarcasm on February 24, 2006, 04:28:48 PM
they're either calcium deposits or fatty deposits i have a huge one about ten times the size of Vic's on my left forearm near my elbow.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 24, 2006, 04:42:40 PM
they're either calcium deposits or fatty deposits i have a huge one about ten times the size of Vic's on my left forearm near my elbow.

That's your siamese twin.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: sarcasm on February 24, 2006, 04:43:37 PM
That's your siamese twin.
hahahaha, it's a pretty crazy looking thing but it adds like a half inch to my forearm.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 24, 2006, 04:51:38 PM
HAHAHAAH It's all about the size.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 24, 2006, 04:53:31 PM
so how does one go about getting a fatty or calcium deposit on there unit?
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on February 24, 2006, 04:54:26 PM
Well I'm almost 18" so I wouldn't know or care.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Snotroot on February 24, 2006, 04:56:18 PM
Well I'm almost 18" so I wouldn't know or care.
me to,from the ground ???
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 25, 2006, 08:24:08 AM
heres a better pic...

I'm pretty amazed that his calves look like this compared to other photos I've seen.  One way or another, they've changed for the better.  In fact, they look to have matched his quads.  In my book, that was his last need for improvement (along with hitting a peak consistently), and it's only a matter of time before he becomes Mr O.

Anybody have some before an afters with his calves?  They used to look quite a bit smaller.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: gibberj2 on February 25, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
Vic is Dominican
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Bodies on February 27, 2006, 02:48:22 AM
Maybe he's blacktino.
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Hedgehog on February 27, 2006, 03:21:23 AM
I think he'll look smooth on stage, maybe 7th or 8th. Either didn't start his diet early enough or cheated on the diet. Or a combination.

His facial changes can't be denied. Jaws.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Vic 3 weeks out :(
Post by: Mars on February 27, 2006, 03:31:12 AM
Did you just said a facial Zack?