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Palumbo concluded that intra-MD is "all advertising" "a scam" designed to "get more of your money" and have "no scientific merit whatsoever."
Unless you were a cyclist is "completely useless" and is counterproductive, "shunting blood from your muscles to your digestive system".
Physiologically he is actually correct.
Would be interesting to know what the "President" of Primenutrition thinks about this.
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I just love how Primenutrition blatantly stole Mercedes-Benz corporate slogan...LOL
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4130/5048264684_3bfccd11db.jpg)
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Hahaha big shock!!
Hey pj what's the deal with evan??? Did he get fired because of u??
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coming from a guy who sold fake GH, then wanted to sell his bullshit "waterlyze" or whatever the fuck it was called, dave can go suck a fat cock...
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coming from a guy who sold fake GH, then wanted to sell his bullshit "waterlyze" or whatever the fuck it was called, dave can go suck a fat cock...
He is no saint, but when a pre-workout stimulant by the same company is called "angel dust" (Phencyclidine, commonly initialized as PCP and known colloquially as Angel Dust) you can't help but wonder.
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He is no saint, but when a pre-workout stimulant by the same company is called "angel dust" (Phencyclidine, commonly initialized as PCP and known colloquially as Angel Dust) you can't help but wonder.
And is why I have not touched any of those products as I trust them as far as I can throw them. (I totally throw like a girl...)
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lol at someone who did time for selling fake HGH calling something or someone a scam ;D
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If Dave really said that, I'd be very disappointed in him, and suggest he spend more time trying to right the sinking ship that is Species, and less time thinking about others.
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Pj why is primes motto the same as Mercedes?
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A supplement which is a scam, huge shocker there! :o
Who else can you trust these days, I always trusted supp companies like I trust my doctor and lawyer. :-\
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Palumbo concluded that intra-MD is "all advertising" "a scam" designed to "get more of your money" and have "no scientific merit whatsoever."
Unless you were a cyclist is "completely useless" and is counterproductive, "shunting blood from your muscles to your digestive system".
Physiologically he is actually correct.
Would be interesting to know what the "President" of Primenutrition thinks about this.
The only two popular bodybuilding supplements to have any scientific merit are Creatine and Glutamine. Both supplements have been studied by universities/colleges across the country. More importantly, they have been studied under randomized control trials and have been published in peer-reviewed journals. Thus, these are really the only two supplements with sound scientific evidence.
PJ Braun's company and other supplement companies do not test their supplements under such strict conditions. They mix a bunch of shit together and say, "It works." However, they have no scientific evidence that their supplements actually work. It's all a crap-shoot. And if the supplements do appear to work, there are too many confounding variables to assert that the results are due to their supplement.
I mean, do you really think Olympic lifters are taking PJ's supplements? lol. No. These athletes are working with professionals who are ensuring anything they stick into their athletes body is proven to work via science.
Supplement companies like PJ's prey on vulnerable teenagers who think the are going to look like ronnie coleman by taking their supplements. Good thing getbiggers know better. :) :D :D
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i know about creatine but what does glutamine do?
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The only two popular bodybuilding supplements to have any scientific merit are Creatine and Glutamine. Both supplements have been studied by universities/colleges across the country. More importantly, they have been studied under randomized control trials and have been published in peer-reviewed journals. Thus, these are really the only two supplements with sound scientific evidence.
Any study which has shown a positive effect of glutamine (recovery, immune system, GH release etc.) was based on the intravenous administration of Glutamine. The oral administration of L-glutamine is completely useless, as it can't even pass your digestive system (gets destroyed at the gastric mucosa) and never ever reaches a muscle cell. It's a 100 % scientific evidence that the oral administration of L-Glutamine is completely useless. (same goes for L-Carnitine, which was sold as a "fatburner" for many years lol)
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i know about creatine but what does glutamine do?
helps with recovery (soreness also) reduces recovery time and helps alleviates muscle soreness
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Any study which has shown a positive effect of glutamine (recovery, immune system, GH release etc.) was based on the intravenous administration of Glutamine. The oral administration of L-glutamine is completely useless, as it can't even pass your digestive system (gets destroyed at the gastric mucosa) and never ever reaches a muscle cell. It's a 100 % scientific evidence that the oral administration of L-Glutamine is completely useless. (same goes for L-Carnitine, which was sold as a "fatburner" for many years lol)
Effect of oral glutamine on whole body carbohydrate storage during recovery from exhaustive exercise
J. L. Bowtell , K. Gelly , M. L. Jackman , A. Patel , M. Simeoni , M. J. Rennie
Journal of Applied PhysiologyPublished 1 June 1999Vol. 86no. 6, 1770-1777DOI:
The purpose of this study was to determine the efficacy of glutamine in promoting whole body carbohydrate storage and muscle glycogen resynthesis during recovery from exhaustive exercise. Postabsorptive subjects completed a glycogen-depleting exercise protocol, then consumed 330 ml of one of three drinks, 18.5% (wt/vol) glucose polymer solution, 8 g glutamine in 330 ml glucose polymer solution, or 8 g glutamine in 330 ml placebo, and also received a primed constant infusion of [1-13C]glucose for 2 h. Plasma glutamine concentration was increased after consumption of the glutamine drinks (0.7–1.1 mM,P < 0.05). In the second hour of recovery, whole body nonoxidative glucose disposal was increased by 25% after consumption of glutamine in addition to the glucose polymer (4.48 ± 0.61 vs. 3.59 ± 0.18 mmol/kg,P < 0.05). Oral glutamine alone promoted storage of muscle glycogen to an extent similar to oral glucose polymer. Ingestion of glutamine and glucose polymer together promoted the storage of carbohydrate outside of skeletal muscle, the most feasible site being the liver.
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Any study which has shown a positive effect of glutamine (recovery, immune system, GH release etc.) was based on the intravenous administration of Glutamine. The oral administration of L-glutamine is completely useless, as it can't even pass your digestive system (gets destroyed at the gastric mucosa) and never ever reaches a muscle cell. It's a 100 % scientific evidence that the oral administration of L-Glutamine is completely useless. (same goes for L-Carnitine, which was sold as a "fatburner" for many years lol)
Am J Clin Nutr May 1995 vol. 61 no. 5 1058-1061
Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.
An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
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If Dave really said that, I'd be very disappointed in him, and suggest he spend more time trying to right the sinking ship that is Species, and less time thinking about others.
listen to the last HMR show,he said that maybe cause he is jelaous of you and aaron
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Am J Clin Nutr May 1995 vol. 61 no. 5 1058-1061
Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.
An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
lol A study with 9 subjects from 1995, I'm impressed. I wonder why they still produce and administer synthetic GH these days, they should put all the patients on PJs L-Glutamine powder instead, no syringes and way cheaper :D
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lol A study with 9 subjects from 1995, I'm impressed. I wonder why they still produce and administer synthetic GH these days, they should put all the patients on PJs L-Glutamine powder instead, no syringes and way cheaper :D
You made a claim that there were no studies that examined oral administration of glumatine.
I provided the evidence. Now you backpeddle.
You never put parameters around what sort of studies should be examined (from a certain year, institution, sample size, etc).
You should have defined you parameters more thoroughly, than just stating, "There are no studies that link oral administration of glutamine to successful outcome."
Thus, you made a statement, and I provided evidence contrary to your statement.
Pretty straightforward.
As for PJ's supplements, most of them are useless crap, as most other supplement products are. Science has clearly shown what works and what doesn't work in terms of GH, slin, steroids, supplements in healthy and unhealthy patients. Prime nutrition is worthless.
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You made a claim that there were no studies that examined oral administration of glumatine.
I provided the evidence. Now you backpeddle.
You never put parameters around what sort of studies should be examined (from a certain year, institution, sample size, etc).
You should have defined you parameters more thoroughly, than just stating, "There are no studies that link oral administration of glutamine to successful outcome."
Thus, you made a statement, and I provided evidence contrary to your statement.
Pretty straightforward.
As for PJ's supplements, most of them are useless crap, as most other supplement products are. Science has clearly shown what works and what doesn't work in terms of GH, slin, steroids, supplements in healthy and unhealthy patients. Prime nutrition is worthless.
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If Dave really said that, I'd be very disappointed in him, and suggest he spend more time trying to right the sinking ship that is Species, and less time thinking about others.
Remember when you used to kiss Daves ass?
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If Dave really said that, I'd be very disappointed in him, and suggest he spend more time trying to right the sinking ship that is Species, and less time thinking about others.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/ask-dave/12002-new-ask-dave-premieres-thursday-at-6-pm-est.html (http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/ask-dave/12002-new-ask-dave-premieres-thursday-at-6-pm-est.html)
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His argument makes sense physiologically, fight or flight response shunts blood AWAY from the GI system.
Also, he said this while sitting behind a wall of Species products ;D
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ive never seen species supplements in a store, is it good stuff?
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ive never seen species supplements in a store, is it good stuff?
They have some decent stuff....nothing really revolutionary though
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They have some decent stuff....nothing really revolutionary though
As full of shit as Palumbo is, his product was not on the protein spiking list.
Some vindication i'm sure.
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;D ;D ;D
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/ask-dave/12002-new-ask-dave-premieres-thursday-at-6-pm-est.html (http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/ask-dave/12002-new-ask-dave-premieres-thursday-at-6-pm-est.html)
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His argument makes sense physiologically, fight or flight response shunts blood AWAY from the GI system.
Also, he said this while sitting behind a wall of Species products ;D
I'm not going to get into this here, but EAAs and HBCD isn't the same as eating food or even many other types of carbs. Normally, he'd be right, but it's obvious that he hasn't done his due diligence. Dave generally thinks he knows everything. That's his MO.
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He always has "words of wisdom "
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i don't know the guy personally of course but i always think "shit heel". why is that
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He always has "words of wisdom "
It's amazing how small these guys are without drugs, holy shist.
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I'm not going to get into this here, but EAAs and HBCD isn't the same as eating food or even many other types of carbs. Normally, he'd be right, but it's obvious that he hasn't done his due diligence. Dave generally thinks he knows everything. That's his MO.
Dave does think he knows everything. You are certainly not wearing your ass hat backwards on that issue.
As head of your company, what is your knowledge base on nutrition and supplementation?
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He always has "words of wisdom "
Apparently PJ and Aaron forgot to ask Dave on this one?
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It's amazing how small these guys are without drugs, holy shist.
He's still on just low dose.
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Dave does think he knows everything. You are certainly not wearing your ass hat backwards on that issue.
As head of your company, what is your knowledge base on nutrition and supplementation?
I have years of experience in the field coaching athletes, but the real answer is: We have a whole team of experts at our disposal.
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He's still on just low dose.
I'm sure he is, fucking greasy snake oil selling caveman.
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I just love how Primenutrition blatantly stole Mercedes-Benz corporate slogan...LOL
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4130/5048264684_3bfccd11db.jpg)
And they should have put, "The best of nothing" underneath Primenutrition.
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I'm sure he is, fucking greasy snake oil selling caveman.
With shoe polish in his transplants.
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I have years of experience in the field coaching athletes, but the real answer is: We have a whole team of experts at our disposal.
Team of experts???
Well I'm convinced.
How many jugs/tubs should I take? ::)
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NEWS FLASH GUYS AND GALS..............
FACT DAVE SELLS RELABELED TRUE NUTRITION PROTEIN FOR 3 TIMES THE PRICE............
COMPARE THE LABEL ON A SPECIES PROTEIN WITH A TRUE NUTRITION LABEL BAM IDENTICAL...............
ALSO DAVE'S SO DUMB HE USE TO LEAVE THE PACKING SLIP FROM DANTE ON HIS KITCHEN COUNTER PUBLIC DOMAIN THERE
SO WHO IS SELLING WHAT NOW..............
THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm ::)
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Just great to see people have woken up and see the light now....
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Palumbo is a know it all? I wonder if he knows he won't see his 50th birthday. Hope it was all worth it... :-\
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I heard at Bev francis gym recently that Dave palumbo began evans career and pj finished evans career
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I heard at Bev francis gym recently that Dave palumbo began evans career and pj finished evans career
If Evan gets good enough, none of that should matter anyway. And just how does PJ have the power to end it? C'mon...
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They have some decent stuff....nothing really revolutionary though
their 'stuff' is just repackaged tru nutrition
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If Evan gets good enough, none of that should matter anyway. And just how does PJ have the power to end it? C'mon...
ive heard the industry hates pj
Since Evan signed with prime he's guilty by association
I'd be very surprised if he ever places well again or does well in the industry
It's a shame
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ive heard the industry hates pj
Since Evan signed with prime he's guilty by association
I'd be very surprised if he ever places well again or does well in the industry
It's a shame
Agreed, this is Evans third career scandal. Hopefully, he will hold strong.
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NEWS FLASH GUYS AND GALS..............
FACT DAVE SELLS RELABELED TRUE NUTRITION PROTEIN FOR 3 TIMES THE PRICE............
COMPARE THE LABEL ON A SPECIES PROTEIN WITH A TRUE NUTRITION LABEL BAM IDENTICAL...............
ALSO DAVE'S SO DUMB HE USE TO LEAVE THE PACKING SLIP FROM DANTE ON HIS KITCHEN COUNTER PUBLIC DOMAIN THERE
SO WHO IS SELLING WHAT NOW..............
THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm ::)
This is old news, Bill.
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their 'stuff' is just repackaged tru nutrition
Oh so you're telling me the species Mac nut oil is from tru nutrition too ::)
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I like prime nutrition. If I'm gonna buy fart powder from anyone, you can bet I'm gonna buy it from a guy with a sweet ass, like PJ.
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I'm not going to get into this here, but EAAs and HBCD isn't the same as eating food or even many other types of carbs. Normally, he'd be right, but it's obvious that he hasn't done his due diligence. Dave generally thinks he knows everything. That's his MO.
Serious question, Intra MD does not contain all the EAA's, why is that? How can you advertise it as an essential amino product when it is missing some of the EAA's?
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Serious question, Intra MD does not contain all the EAA's, why is that? How can you advertise it as an essential amino product when it is missing some of the EAA's?
ouch, his "whole team of experts" forgot to tell him ;D
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I like Blackstone labs angel dust and hype. The clothes are nice too! I really like the Prime nutrition shirts,good quality supplements and clothes-IMO.
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ALL SPECIES PRODUCTS ends with the word LYZE(LIES) yet people keep buying it SMDH over and over
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ALL SPECIES PRODUCTS ends with the word LYZE(LIES) yet people keep buying it SMDH over and over
Who is buying species products??
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ALL SPECIES PRODUCTS ends with the word LYZE(LIES) yet people keep buying it SMDH over and over
nice
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Who is buying species products??
I am sure plenty of instgram followers and all dave's 3rd tier clients.....He is a big pusher of things he has financial gains from
I am sure Amanda is on board with his get rich quick schemes and is peddling them to all her schmoes and worshippers
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Oh so you're telling me the species Mac nut oil is from tru nutrition too ::)
I was long gone from the "FECES" camp when he started selling this oil crap...the only reason he sells it is because nobody else is in the market. Nothing Dave does is original its all just a relabeled product. He most likely has a client who works in a Mac Oil warehouse and is getting their employee discount to buy it in bulk and has another schmoe relabeling the bottles
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Aqualyze worked pretty well for me for my last comp, used it the last couple days, never tried any of his other products
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Aqualyze worked pretty well for me for my last comp, used it the last couple days, never tried any of his other products
Here is a little food for thought....its a womens menstrual water pill $5 at cvs and Walgreens
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he could make his own stuff but then he might have to CUT BACK
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I have years of experience in the field coaching athletes, but the real answer is: We have a whole team of experts at our disposal.
By "we", do you mean Singerman as well? Truly, it's just Evan and yourself, correct?
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I have years of experience in the field coaching athletes, but the real answer is: We have a whole team of experts at our disposal.
lol at experts. :D :D
What are their qualifications?
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lol at experts. :D :D
What are their qualifications?
graduated with honours from room 5, by the ice machine at the mirage
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graduated with honours from room 5, by the ice machine at the mirage
lmao!! ;D ;D
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lol at experts. :D :D
What are their qualifications?
None.
Conmen.
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he could make his own stuff but then he might have to CUT BACK
But why cut back?
In all honestly he is like the tmz of bodybuilding, I listen to him every morning when I do cardio he does have some insight into stuff. But at the end of the day he did get caught selling fake hgh so you got to take what he says with a pit of salt
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But why cut back?
In all honestly he is like the tmz of bodybuilding, I listen to him every morning when I do cardio he does have some insight into stuff. But at the end of the day he did get caught selling fake hgh so you got to take what he says with a pit of salt
He also cheated on his fiance with 2 of her best friends....and later married one of them
He has no real friends people use him just as much as he uses them
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He also cheated on his fiance with 2 of her best friends....and later married one of them
He has no real friends people use him just as much as he uses them
Oh wow. I wonder why everyone that once worked with him seem to hate it. I don't want to use the old stereo type but he kind fits the sneak, money hungry Jew thing uh?
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I have years of experience in the field coaching athletes, but the real answer is: We have a whole team of experts at our disposal.
tell me their actual qualifications
What a chicken shit company U have
You'll be bankrupt in less than 5 years
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tell me their actual qualifications
What a chicken shit company U have
You'll be bankrupt in less than 5 years
Once the cool factor of it being the new thing out and the social media kids spot posting the shit out of it they will be hurting, give them a year
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Agreed, this is Evans third career scandal. Hopefully, he will hold strong.
What was evans first "career" scandal? Can someone fill me in?
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He also cheated on his fiance with 2 of her best friends....and later married one of them
He has no real friends people use him just as much as he uses them
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Billy, who the hell is this "new wife" of Dave's?? She's not in good shape and makes one think where she came from??
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What was evans first "career" scandal? Can someone fill me in?
Let's see, the first? That would be Peaceful28 all day long baby!
Their love affair went on for a couple years before all hell broke loose.
And by hell, I mean the Romano connection.
Perhaps since Evan is a spokesman of the company, PJ would care to explain this picture -
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Romano as in John romano? Evan was messing with romanos girl?
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Romano as in John romano? Evan was messing with romanos girl?
Very long of a story, I will cut and paste in Blockheads version...too much to tell.
" The Greatest Bodybuilding Love Story Ever Untold...
Once Upon A Time...
In a little land called the MD.com forums. A lone fair faced healthcare worker from The Land of Lincoln stumbles upon the site by pure chance. Being a healthy cooking enthusiast and a self-proclaimed healthnut she finds sanctuary in the Cooking-Meal Prep-Recipes section. There this fair lady enjoyed spending time learning new way to grill chicken, toss salad (no pun intended) and dice tomatoes. She was the most PEACEFUL lady in the land. Eventually another found their way in that same section of the courtyard. He was known throughout the land as the Next One. The Great White Hope. The Golden Boy of MD.com The Object of King Steve Gluteman's Affections. His name... Evan The Stalkerpani.
Evan took great interest in this PEACEFUL fair faced healthcare worker from a different land. In This Time, another not-so nobleman by the name of Schmoemano Son of John romanced his way by the power of the pen and his Shakespearean transcribes into the heart of this PEACEFUL lady as she chose his hand over the mighty sword of Evan The Stalkerpani. War ensued. Turmoil. Chaos. Tragedy.
Evan The Stalkerpani being embarassed, humiliated beyond his expectations goes to great lengths to ridicule and dismiss the credibility of the PEACEFUL lady by ramsacking her village, raiding her hut and storming into her ancestory. The Ashamed Evan uses teams of loyal servants headed by local fool, PJ Dong to spread the word across the entire land that the PEACEFUL lady is nothing more than a whore and the daughter of a motherless goat.
In this time, local courtyard jester and village lothario, Sir Blocketh learns of such a love tragedy. Being a FOOL for love he digs deep into the story to find out the truth and to possibly be mender of broken hearts, exposer of those who bare false witness and to bare friendly challenge to Schmoemano Son of John. Challenge is accepted as Schmoemano Son of John duels with Sir Blocketh with the love of the PEACEFUL lady is at stake. Schmoemano Son of John leaves the land, Evan The Stalkerpani is exiled vowing never to return and the PEACEFUL lady reigns on forever in the Land of Lincolnvowing a blood oath never to be put in the middle of such evil and insecure un-noblemen again from this day forth.
The End."
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..........so he did he cheat on his wife or not that story makes no sense
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ALL SPECIES PRODUCTS ends with the word LYZE(LIES) yet people keep buying it SMDH over and over
Billy I''m not standing up for dave nor do I buy species products or have even tried species. I think your right the names of the products shouldn;t end with "Lyze" but I know this is something more personal, you used to hang out with dave and post piictures of you two at Met games and you hired him to do your prep. what happened? did he cheat you somehow?
It is true dave was buying serostim kits back what 2005 from some guy in Ohio via the internet and he did get caught selling a few and they did end up being fake but you really think dave knew? Alot of people have bought fake serostim and just thought it was working because of all the other shit they were on. I think dave was using those kits as well not trying to dupe people. so please explain what happened to your guys relationship because not right to bash the guy for a personal reason.
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..........so he did he cheat on his wife or not that story makes no sense
I believe it was before he got married. Going on a few years prior and leading up to right before.
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And poof. PJ will not return to this thread. :-X
Prime waiting for it to scroll out to the back pages of Getbig.
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Prime nutrition what a disaster of a company
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Didn't Species nutrition (Palumbo's own brand) recently end up in a lawsuit after melting the liver of a contest prepper?
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Didn't Species nutrition (Palumbo's own brand) recently end up in a lawsuit after melting the liver of a contest prepper?
I heard about that one of his products had some alleged poisin in it the fat burning supplement Lipo Lyze.
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Prime nutrition what a disaster of a company
haha never seen someone cry this much for not getting a free sample....geez
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Bodybuilding supplements are a scam
great physiques are made with clean food and drugs ... not BCAA and pre workouts
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haha never seen someone cry this much for not getting a free sample....geez
NaturalButtPlumber83 sure sounds like a whiny girl.
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And poof. PJ will not return to this thread. :-X
Prime waiting for it to scroll out to the back pages of Getbig.
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haha never seen someone cry this much for not getting a free sample....geez
ive heard there are no labs at blackstone :o
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Bump
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/rx-radio/heavy-muscle-radio.html (http://www.rxmuscle.com/rx-radio/heavy-muscle-radio.html)
Yeesh :o
Palumbo brought out the big guns, pwnage of Prime Nutrition Intra-MD with a point by point
scientific deconstruction with notes and references. Chris Aceto also weighing in.
Conclusion: Intra-MD = Cash grab
PJ are the team of "expert scientists" preparing the rebuttal?
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(http://rs852.pbsrc.com/albums/ab81/intothenight86/gifs/AngelMJpopcorn.gif~c200)
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Hahahaha
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(http://rs852.pbsrc.com/albums/ab81/intothenight86/gifs/AngelMJpopcorn.gif~c200)
And now we wait....
This could get ugly
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Old Dave must really be hurting to attack another supplement company. Does he think PJ can't do the same with Species? I'm willing to bet Billy Guns would sign an affidavit testifying of Species shenanigans, just to prove a point.
To bad Goodrum wasn't still around because I'm sure he'd let PJ use his radio show for a rebuttal.
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Does anyone over 18 actually purchase this garbage?
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Just saw this on the ticker on ESPN and rushed to GetBig to get the inside scoop.
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Wall Street Journal reporting Prime Nutrition's stock was down at the close of the Dow in the wake of Palumbo's on-air rant
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I use Karbolyn doing my workouts seems to be working well as show gets closer they will get cut out. I think that a carb drink especially when taking slin pre workout makes good sense . Now the 18 year old eating two meals a day all natty. Is a waste of money.
Pj do you guys recommend slin with your intra drink
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I use Karbolyn doing my workouts seems to be working well as show gets closer they will get cut out. I think that a carb drink especially when taking slin pre workout makes good sense . Now the 18 year old eating two meals a day all natty. Is a waste of money.
Pj do you guys recommend slin with your intra drink
ill answer for pj mlike
I checked the label on the jug and he doesn't mention slin
So he'd prob say no
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ill answer for pj mlike
I checked the label on the jug and he doesn't mention slin
So he'd prob say no
Ummm well shoot. I was hopping he would say it works great with insulin
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I use Karbolyn doing my workouts seems to be working well as show gets closer they will get cut out. I think that a carb drink especially when taking slin pre workout makes good sense . Now the 18 year old eating two meals a day all natty. Is a waste of money.
Pj do you guys recommend slin with your intra drink
You take insulin?
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I always thought if you used pre workout Slin that a drink like this was mandatory??
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Funny how palumbo put down the intra thing WHILE promoting the shit out of HIS shitty supplement line...
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I always thought if you used pre workout Slin that a drink like this was mandatory??
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2764172/upright-row-o.gif)
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Is this large debate about fartpowder ???
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Never again will scoops like this be confirmed by our beloved industry insider. :'(
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(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2764172/upright-row-o.gif)
this is funny even though I dont quite understand it :D
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Wait,,,didnt he knowingly sell fake HGh? How would he have room to discuss anyone elses business? If i was Pj, you can use that retort/rebuttal as a trump card for ANYtHing dave has to say..
"Cool, didnt u knowingly sell fake GH?" ..:ends discussion immediately
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You take insulin?
Years ago when I was with a different coach I tired humalog. I havnt done it in years. This offseason I plan on using gh and slin together finally. It's the only really way for a guy like me to be a heavy weight. With out it in top of light heavy but never will be a contender at my height as a light heavy
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I always thought if you used pre workout Slin that a drink like this was mandatory??
They are a carb/sugar source Gatoraid, Karbolyn or even just water and dextrose. If you don't your going hypo super fast
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this is funny even though I dont quite understand it :D
Actually, I have seen Vince Taylor over the years do that same exercise many times. I don't get it as it looks like would grinding the hell out of your rotator cuff.
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VP's joke went straight over the heads of many a citizen of Americas, kinda like the US drones.
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VP's joke went straight over the heads of many a citizen of Americas, kinda like the US drones.
:D ;D
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Actually, I have seen Vince Taylor over the years do that same exercise many times. I don't get it as it looks like would grinding the hell out of your rotator cuff.
maybe VP would share what he meant by it
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maybe VP would share what he meant by it
I'm a particularly candid athlete.
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beautiful upright row right there
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It was the combination of insulin, intra workout carbs and this funky upright row that had me laughing :)
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Like I care what the fuck that crook has to say.
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palumbo is such a scumfuck
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Old Dave must really be hurting to attack another supplement company. Does he think PJ can't do the same with Species? I'm willing to bet Billy Guns would sign an affidavit testifying of Species shenanigans, just to prove a point.
To bad Goodrum wasn't still around because I'm sure he'd let PJ use his radio show for a rebuttal.
if dave had any sense, he'd have any and all employees and 1099's sign non-disclosure agreements and if possible non-compete agreements (for a certain period of time after their relationship comes to an end).
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And poof. PJ will not return to this thread. :-X
Prime waiting for it to scroll out to the back pages of Getbig.
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And poof. PJ will not return to this thread. :-X
Prime waiting for it to scroll out to the back pages of Getbig.
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Bump
I am still waiting on PJ to explain why they are missing some of the EAA's...................alth ough I already know the answer why ;D
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He won't be back. If he does, he will selectively respond to posts and run again. ::)
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Mods can we sticky this thread??
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He won't be back. If he does, he will selectively respond to posts and run again. ::)
Of course, that's his M.O.
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Peej?
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Peej?
Bump?
I have a feeling Scentopanty has ordered Peej to stay out of this thread. ::)
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Pj!
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Very long of a story, I will cut and paste in Blockheads version...too much to tell.
" The Greatest Bodybuilding Love Story Ever Untold...
Once Upon A Time...
In a little land called the MD.com forums. A lone fair faced healthcare worker from The Land of Lincoln stumbles upon the site by pure chance. Being a healthy cooking enthusiast and a self-proclaimed healthnut she finds sanctuary in the Cooking-Meal Prep-Recipes section. There this fair lady enjoyed spending time learning new way to grill chicken, toss salad (no pun intended) and dice tomatoes. She was the most PEACEFUL lady in the land. Eventually another found their way in that same section of the courtyard. He was known throughout the land as the Next One. The Great White Hope. The Golden Boy of MD.com The Object of King Steve Gluteman's Affections. His name... Evan The Stalkerpani.
Evan took great interest in this PEACEFUL fair faced healthcare worker from a different land. In This Time, another not-so nobleman by the name of Schmoemano Son of John romanced his way by the power of the pen and his Shakespearean transcribes into the heart of this PEACEFUL lady as she chose his hand over the mighty sword of Evan The Stalkerpani. War ensued. Turmoil. Chaos. Tragedy.
Evan The Stalkerpani being embarassed, humiliated beyond his expectations goes to great lengths to ridicule and dismiss the credibility of the PEACEFUL lady by ramsacking her village, raiding her hut and storming into her ancestory. The Ashamed Evan uses teams of loyal servants headed by local fool, PJ Dong to spread the word across the entire land that the PEACEFUL lady is nothing more than a whore and the daughter of a motherless goat.
In this time, local courtyard jester and village lothario, Sir Blocketh learns of such a love tragedy. Being a FOOL for love he digs deep into the story to find out the truth and to possibly be mender of broken hearts, exposer of those who bare false witness and to bare friendly challenge to Schmoemano Son of John. Challenge is accepted as Schmoemano Son of John duels with Sir Blocketh with the love of the PEACEFUL lady is at stake. Schmoemano Son of John leaves the land, Evan The Stalkerpani is exiled vowing never to return and the PEACEFUL lady reigns on forever in the Land of Lincolnvowing a blood oath never to be put in the middle of such evil and insecure un-noblemen again from this day forth.
The End."
bump
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I can't wait that much longer for pyjamas braun's rebuttal.
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I can't wait that much longer for pyjamas braun's rebuttal.
You won't get one or at least you won't get the truth
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PJ will not return to this thread and may even lay low on GB until this thread is like 20 pages back. ;D
Evan would surely kill him if he did.
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Very long of a story, I will cut and paste in Blockheads version...too much to tell.
" The Greatest Bodybuilding Love Story Ever Untold...
Once Upon A Time...
In a little land called the MD.com forums. A lone fair faced healthcare worker from The Land of Lincoln stumbles upon the site by pure chance. Being a healthy cooking enthusiast and a self-proclaimed healthnut she finds sanctuary in the Cooking-Meal Prep-Recipes section. There this fair lady enjoyed spending time learning new way to grill chicken, toss salad (no pun intended) and dice tomatoes. She was the most PEACEFUL lady in the land. Eventually another found their way in that same section of the courtyard. He was known throughout the land as the Next One. The Great White Hope. The Golden Boy of MD.com The Object of King Steve Gluteman's Affections. His name... Evan The Stalkerpani.
Evan took great interest in this PEACEFUL fair faced healthcare worker from a different land. In This Time, another not-so nobleman by the name of Schmoemano Son of John romanced his way by the power of the pen and his Shakespearean transcribes into the heart of this PEACEFUL lady as she chose his hand over the mighty sword of Evan The Stalkerpani. War ensued. Turmoil. Chaos. Tragedy.
Evan The Stalkerpani being embarassed, humiliated beyond his expectations goes to great lengths to ridicule and dismiss the credibility of the PEACEFUL lady by ramsacking her village, raiding her hut and storming into her ancestory. The Ashamed Evan uses teams of loyal servants headed by local fool, PJ Dong to spread the word across the entire land that the PEACEFUL lady is nothing more than a whore and the daughter of a motherless goat.
In this time, local courtyard jester and village lothario, Sir Blocketh learns of such a love tragedy. Being a FOOL for love he digs deep into the story to find out the truth and to possibly be mender of broken hearts, exposer of those who bare false witness and to bare friendly challenge to Schmoemano Son of John. Challenge is accepted as Schmoemano Son of John duels with Sir Blocketh with the love of the PEACEFUL lady is at stake. Schmoemano Son of John leaves the land, Evan The Stalkerpani is exiled vowing never to return and the PEACEFUL lady reigns on forever in the Land of Lincolnvowing a blood oath never to be put in the middle of such evil and insecure un-noblemen again from this day forth.
The End."
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Let's see, the first? That would be Peaceful28 all day long baby!
Their love affair went on for a couple years before all hell broke loose.
And by hell, I mean the Romano connection.
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PJ, did SCentopanties really ban you from returning to this thread? Seriously?
Tell him its not that serious. We've all been pussy whipped in love at one time. ;)
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Pj
Can we get your input please?!
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You're not going to get an answer for now. Aaron and PJ are pretty busy right now with securing some major deals coming soon. If you have any questions about Blackstone or Prime, you will need to direct them to the VP of Sales and Marketing
They are not going to have as much direct involvement anymore as the company is getting pretty huge. They now have over 40 employees, multiple athletes, and just added another 2000 square feet to their warehouse.
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You're not going to get an answer for now. Aaron and PJ are pretty busy right now with securing some major deals coming soon. If you have any questions about Blackstone or Prime, you will need to direct them to the VP of Sales and Marketing
They are not going to have as much direct involvement anymore as the company is getting pretty huge. They now have over 40 employees, multiple athletes, and just added another 2000 square feet to their warehouse.
ah ok
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Aaron did tell me to pass along that their new product Cobra 6P Extreme is available and they are planning to release some new fangled shit that John Meadows cooked up....some sort of nutrition repartitioning agent. Folks have been telling me that this Cobra 6p harkens back to the days of the old ECA stacks that used to be around....prob because of the methylpentane.
They are going to make a fucking ton of money off this product.
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Cool story bro, but I have no question about their product.
The question at hand was about Scentopantieantics and of course Peej will get his ass pummeled by Scent if he returns to this thread. So, no need for "explanations". ::)
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You're not going to get an answer for now. Aaron and PJ are pretty busy right now with securing some major deals coming soon. If you have any questions about Blackstone or Prime, you will need to direct them to the VP of Sales and Marketing
They are not going to have as much direct involvement anymore as the company is getting pretty huge. They now have over 40 employees, multiple athletes, and just added another 2000 square feet to their warehouse.
They are not that big
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They are not that big
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Vince, when will you debate Palumbo? I'd love to see this clash of titans. :) :)
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Vince, when will you debate Palumbo? I'd love to see this clash of titans. :) :)
It'll be a while since I'm in the middle of things....but it will happen on Iron Debate in the very near future. I would discuss it further but Princess L has been tripping lately with the ban hammer.
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It'll be a while since I'm in the middle of things....but it will happen on Iron Debate in the very near future. I would discuss it further but Princess L has been tripping lately with the ban hammer.
Getbig Is Really Going To Shit W/ Mods Getting Ban Hammers
Postby Vince Goodrum » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:52 pm
Seems like the life has been sucked out of the place. Vince Basile getting away with lying and I can't call him out for it. Princess L's getting payback on me for the Mr Getbig 2..... drunk like Shizzo for power.
That's cool with me but I'm pretty sure Ron will hopefully designate neutral moderators and give them some rules on when to ban and when not to....otherwise, I'll be getting a lot more new members
That's bullshit and you know it. Spamming the boards with your site, products, show is not tolerated. Just because you've done it for years and often times gotten away with it, doesn't make it acceptable. Same rules apply to everyone, so quit acting like you're being singled out.
And regarding the Mr. Getbig 2 ::) WTF are you talking about? You've once again got me confused with someone else.
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That's bullshit and you know it. Spamming the boards with your site, products, show is not tolerated. Just because you've done it for years and often times gotten away with it, doesn't make it acceptable. Same rules apply to everyone, so quit acting like you're being singled out.
And regarding the Mr. Getbig 2 ::) WTF are you talking about? You've once again got me confused with someone else.
That's not what I'm talking about....you ignored all the shit Vince Basile said about people and he wasn't banned again or when I was banned. That's fine, I won't post anymore links to my site but I was clearly singled out when everyone else got a free pass. And I did get you mixed up with someone else on the GB 2. so my apologies on that
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New Picture From A Recent Photoshoot
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That's not what I'm talking about....you ignored all the shit Vince Basile said about people and he wasn't banned again or when I was banned. That's fine, I won't post anymore links to my site but I was clearly singled out when everyone else got a free pass. And I did get you mixed up with someone else on the GB 2. so my apologies on that
You're wrong. You and Basile were both banned for a short time to cool off. YOU were banned AGAIN after spamming the site.
Apology accepted.
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You're wrong. You and Basile were both banned for a short time to cool off. YOU were banned AGAIN after spamming the site.
Apology accepted.
Basile took pot shots at me when I was banned the second time and you guys didn't do anything....and he wonders why I redirected his domain to NAMBLA for. I'll take my bans willingly but you need to put Basile in Timeout as well when he pulls his shit as well.
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bump.
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Pj?
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Arnold Classic bump
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Any prime nutrition reps gonna answer??
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Any prime nutrition reps gonna answer??
When they feel like it and when you have a real question.
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Pj can we please get an update as to why evan left you guys and are there missing aminos in intra md?
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When they feel like it and when you have a real question.
Here is a real question - Why are they missing essential amino acids from their essential amino acid formula?
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Here is a real question - Why are they missing essential amino acids from their essential amino acid formula?
What the fuck are you talking about???
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What the fuck are you talking about???
Look at Intra-MD, they are missing a key essential amino - Histidine which by the way is the most expensive out of the EAA's. They are cutting corners and ripping people off.
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Just watched Dave's video..
PeptoPro (casein hydrolysate) contains all of the BCAA, EAA, and NEAA in peptide bonded form (di and tri-peptides) for superior absorption and utilization. These low molecular weight peptides are PRE-DIGESTED and are transported directly to muscle cells via PEPT1 transporter. MyoFUEL is the only product on the market to contain the full clinical dosage of 6-12g per serving, and it also contains a host of powerful ergogenic (performance enhancing) ingredients and an electrolyte blend for hydration and maximum muscle contractions. My company has been in business for over 8 years now, I've stood the test of time, because ALL of my formulas are highly unique and extremely effective.
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Look at Intra-MD, they are missing a key essential amino - Histidine which by the way is the most expensive out of the EAA's. They are cutting corners and ripping people off.
vince plz comment on this fact
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Look at Intra-MD, they are missing a key essential amino - Histidine which by the way is the most expensive out of the EAA's. They are cutting corners and ripping people off.
Unless you have arthritis, its pretty useless.
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Unless you have arthritis, its pretty useless.
Wrong
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Wrong
That's my opinion....I don't think its needed and it would drive the cost up on the product. It is a for profit business after all
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That's my opinion....I don't think its needed and it would drive the cost up on the product. It is a for profit business after all
So you think it's ok to advertise an EAA product that is missing one of the ESSENTIAL amino acids? Yes they should make a profit but not by ripping people off who think they are getting a product with all the EAA's in it. They advertise it as a "premium" product which couldn't be further from the truth, they cut corners.
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Very long of a story, I will cut and paste in Blockheads version...too much to tell.
" The Greatest Bodybuilding Love Story Ever Untold...
Once Upon A Time...
In a little land called the MD.com forums. A lone fair faced healthcare worker from The Land of Lincoln stumbles upon the site by pure chance. Being a healthy cooking enthusiast and a self-proclaimed healthnut she finds sanctuary in the Cooking-Meal Prep-Recipes section. There this fair lady enjoyed spending time learning new way to grill chicken, toss salad (no pun intended) and dice tomatoes. She was the most PEACEFUL lady in the land. Eventually another found their way in that same section of the courtyard. He was known throughout the land as the Next One. The Great White Hope. The Golden Boy of MD.com The Object of King Steve Gluteman's Affections. His name... Evan The Stalkerpani.
Evan took great interest in this PEACEFUL fair faced healthcare worker from a different land. In This Time, another not-so nobleman by the name of Schmoemano Son of John romanced his way by the power of the pen and his Shakespearean transcribes into the heart of this PEACEFUL lady as she chose his hand over the mighty sword of Evan The Stalkerpani. War ensued. Turmoil. Chaos. Tragedy.
Evan The Stalkerpani being embarassed, humiliated beyond his expectations goes to great lengths to ridicule and dismiss the credibility of the PEACEFUL lady by ramsacking her village, raiding her hut and storming into her ancestory. The Ashamed Evan uses teams of loyal servants headed by local fool, PJ Dong to spread the word across the entire land that the PEACEFUL lady is nothing more than a whore and the daughter of a motherless goat.
In this time, local courtyard jester and village lothario, Sir Blocketh learns of such a love tragedy. Being a FOOL for love he digs deep into the story to find out the truth and to possibly be mender of broken hearts, exposer of those who bare false witness and to bare friendly challenge to Schmoemano Son of John. Challenge is accepted as Schmoemano Son of John duels with Sir Blocketh with the love of the PEACEFUL lady is at stake. Schmoemano Son of John leaves the land, Evan The Stalkerpani is exiled vowing never to return and the PEACEFUL lady reigns on forever in the Land of Lincolnvowing a blood oath never to be put in the middle of such evil and insecure un-noblemen again from this day forth.
The End."
Lol...didnt both of them also try and meet the chick? Wasnt it just some avatar and was a guy or something?
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Unless you have arthritis, its pretty useless.
You are an idiot
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So you think it's ok to advertise an EAA product that is missing one of the ESSENTIAL amino acids? Yes they should make a profit but not by ripping people off who think they are getting a product with all the EAA's in it. They advertise it as a "premium" product which couldn't be further from the truth, they cut corners.
The product contains the essential amino acids that promote muscle growth and energy. Histidine isn't one of them. Tryptophan was also left out as well for obvious reasons of not falling asleep.
(News Flash..2 of them were left out intentionally)
Most bodybuilders are eating tons of eggs and meat so they are getting more than enough Histidine in their diet.
I got mine so go get yours
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Most bodybuilders are eating tons of eggs and meat so they are getting more than enough Histidine in their diet.
But they are not getting enough of the rest of the eaa's and need this shit? Idiotic.
A simple whey isolate is better than this stuff.
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But they are not getting enough of the rest of the eaa's and need this shit? Idiotic.
A simple whey isolate is better than this stuff.
I actually agree with you on that. That's why they'll be releasing their new product Insolation soon. Its a 100% whey isolate protein powder. The EAA product is something you'd mix with a jug of water and drink throughout the day.
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I actually agree with you on that. That's why they'll be releasing their new product Insolation soon. Its a 100% whey isolate protein powder. The EAA product is something you'd mix with a jug of water and drink throughout the day.
Wow, I'm sure it's gonna be a REVOLUTION in the bb'ing world!!! Our world/routine will never be the same. Such an innovative thing to come up with, how do they think of this shit???
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The product contains the essential amino acids that promote muscle growth and energy. Histidine isn't one of them. Tryptophan was also left out as well for obvious reasons of not falling asleep.
(News Flash..2 of them were left out intentionally)
Most bodybuilders are eating tons of eggs and meat so they are getting more than enough Histidine in their diet.
I got mine so go get yours
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vince I think the eaa product you're holding is not intra md
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The product contains the essential amino acids that promote muscle growth and energy. Histidine isn't one of them. Tryptophan was also left out as well for obvious reasons of not falling asleep.
(News Flash..2 of them were left out intentionally)
Most bodybuilders are eating tons of eggs and meat so they are getting more than enough Histidine in their diet.
I got mine so go get yours
Histidine is one of them. All the studies done on EAA's are using ALL of them. They are called "essential" for a reason.
The only reason Prime left it out is because Histidine is the most expensive and they wanted to put more money in their pocket. You can't pick and choose which of the "essential" aminos you want to put in a formula, they are all essential.
They are ripping people off, it's not much different than the protein spiking scam. Consumers think they are buying a product with the EAA's but they are not getting all of them.
It's a joke Vince and you look bad defending them.
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Histidine is one of them. All the studies done on EAA's are using ALL of them. They are called "essential" for a reason.
The only reason Prime left it out is because Histidine is the most expensive and they wanted to put more money in their pocket. You can't pick and choose which of the "essential" aminos you want to put in a formula, they are all essential.
They are ripping people off, it's not much different than the protein spiking scam. Consumers think they are buying a product with the EAA's but they are not getting all of them.
It's a joke Vince and you look bad defending them.
The ingredients on the supplements are listed as they are not hiding behind a prop formula. If you don't like the product then go buy something else. Not that difficult
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Lol...didnt both of them also try and meet the chick? Wasnt it just some avatar and was a guy or something?
Blomano, not sure. Centopanty yes, and nope a full on girl.
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Can Aaron sue Palumbo for slander?
Insert "angel-dust" sample sponsored Vince G rebuttal.
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Can Aaron sue Palumbo for slander?
Insert "angel-dust" sample sponsored Vince G rebuttal.
No, Aaron can't sue Palumbo for the statement.
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Can Aaron sue Palumbo for slander?
Insert "angel-dust" sample sponsored Vince G rebuttal.
no pj braun blackstone prime does not give free supps ever
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Can Aaron sue Palumbo for slander?
Insert "angel-dust" sample sponsored Vince G rebuttal.
Wouldn't it mean that Aaron would have to prove that his products do in fact work before he could sue Palumbo for that statement?
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as if any IFBB pro would even risk their career taking bodybuilding supplements
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No supplements work
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remember people, things that work will require a prescription
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no pj braun blackstone prime does not give free supps ever
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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neither does Universal/Animal but he was with them for 7 years.
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neither does Universal/Animal but he was with them for 7 years.
Yes but there are videos of Evan taking Anima supplements; protein, animal pack etc....
He never once took or endorsed any of PJs products.
He knows what they (Aaron/Pj) are doing, would you put something in your body "formulated" by two guys who never went to college?
Did Aaron or PJ even graduate high school?
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neither does Universal/Animal but he was with them for 7 years.
Yes but there are videos of Evan taking Anima supplements; protein, animal pack etc....
He never once took or endorsed any of PJs products.
He knows what they (Aaron/Pj) are doing, would you put something in your body "formulated" by two guys who never went to college?
Did Aaron or PJ even graduate high school?
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no pj braun blackstone prime does not give free supps ever
Aaron sent me about 300 dollars worth of product for advertising the BSL line on my website and social media. Swag as its called is generally given to those who financially help the business. Jason Genova still gets a ton of product monthly from Prime and BSL as does Matt Meinroid along with payment for advertising banners.
If you want swag you have to earn it, naturalwonder83