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Learn the truth About Muhammad and the Islamic vs Christian crusades.
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well said.
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This is the history people choose to forget. Islam was never innocent
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Again - what Obama refused to acknowledge was that at the same time he said Christians were doing bad shit - ISLAMICS were also doing equally bad shit and had done so for years prior.
However - the difference is that the Islamic fanatics are still doing the same exact shit!
F Obama!
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Again - what Obama refused to acknowledge was that at the same time he said Christians were doing bad shit - ISLAMICS were also doing equally bad shit and had done so for years prior.
However - the difference is that the Islamic fanatics are still doing the same exact shit!
F Obama!
Same shit different century. Well in case of Islam it's always the 6th century.
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Same shit different century. Well in case of Islam it's always the 6th century.
The guy All of the conservatives are sucking off now....King of Jordan...yeah...hes a muslim too...He claims to be a direct decendent of Muhammed.
And he Runs a pretty developed country...
See your idotic problem is that you are full of the Generalizations. That like your thing...
There are people that follow islam that dont kill people...Jesus h christ youre narrow minded...
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The guy All of the conservatives are sucking off now....King of Jordan...yeah...hes a muslim too...He claims to be a direct decendent of Muhammed.
And he Runs a pretty developed country...
See your idotic problem is that you are full of the Generalizations. That like your thing...
There are people that follow islam that dont kill people...Jesus h christ youre narrow minded...
same idiotic comments. You have no clue whats going on in the middle east or the first thing about Islam. What the fuck are you even rambling on about anway. I'm an atheist and if christians or any other religion were behaving the same way as islam I would criticize them as well.
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same idiotic comments. You have no clue whats going on in the middle east or the first thing about Islam. What the fuck are you even rambling on about anway. I'm an atheist and if christians or any other religion were behaving the same way as islam I would criticize them as well.
ok lets see if you can follow...You said "its always 6th century with islam"
And i said "Well JORDAN is an Islamic State" (im sure we can both agree on that)
And its doing well financially and basically a pretty advanced country by world standards.
So this Islamic country, that has a king, of whom is a decendent of Muhammed, is stuck in the 6th century as well?
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ok lets see if you can follow...You said "its always 6th century with islam"
And i said "Well JORDAN is an Islamic State" (im sure we can both agree on that)
And its doing well financially and basically a pretty advanced country by world standards.
So this Islamic country, that has a king, of whom is a decendent of Muhammed, is stuck in the 6th century as well?
What are the social conditions in Jordan particularly for women and homosexuals, bonehead? Human rights? Freedom of speech?
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Give this a read, dummy. Not that I expect you to actually read anything.
http://m.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/jordan
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Another helpful link you wont read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Jordan
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Give this a read, dummy. Not that I expect you to actually read anything.
http://m.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/jordan
yo bro.. lets relax with the name calling. Its extremely immature and its tough for me to take you serious. This is now how adults speak, even when disagreeing on something. Its juvenile. So lets grow up a bit.
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Another helpful link you wont read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Jordan
And most of the same can be said about The US. So what are we talking about here?
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And most of the same can be said about The US. So what are we talking about here?
No it can't. You making such an asinine comparison demonstrates you didnt bother to read a damn thing. Seriously, read up on Jordan before you speak so infatically about a subject you are devoid of any knowledge of. For all the getbig, this moron is saying Jordan is exactly like the United States In terms of rights and freedoms. God damn son. What the fuck are you smoking?
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No it can't. You making such an asinine comparison demonstrates you didnt bother to read a damn thing. Seriously, read up on Jordan before you speak so infatically about a subject you are devoid of any knowledge of. For all the getbig, this moron is saying Jordan is exactly like the United States In terms of rights and freedoms. God damn son. What the fuck are you smoking?
Lol youre a live one huh.. Funny little guy arent you...
lets go one by one you small minded obsessed little fuck you.
Democracy...yeah our Democracy is Corporatocracy. This is common knowledge.
but lets examine further ( swear this a waste of time)
Areas of concern with respect to human rights in Jordan include
cases of arbitrary deprivation of life, torture, poor prison conditions, impunity, arbitrary arrest and denial of due process through administrative detention, and prolonged detention
breaches of fair trial standards and external interference in judicial decisions;
infringements on privacy rights
limited freedoms of speech and press, and government interference in the media and threats of fines and detention that encourage self-censorship;
legal and societal discrimination and harassment of members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community;
restricted labor rights; and
that over h
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Lol youre a live one huh.. Funny little guy arent you...
lets go one by one you small minded obsessed little fuck you.
Democracy...yeah our Democracy is Corporatocracy. This is common knowledge.
but lets examine further ( swear this a waste of time)
Areas of concern with respect to human rights in Jordan include
cases of arbitrary deprivation of life, torture, poor prison conditions, impunity, arbitrary arrest and denial of due process through administrative detention, and prolonged detention
breaches of fair trial standards and external interference in judicial decisions;
infringements on privacy rights
limited freedoms of speech and press, and government interference in the media and threats of fines and detention that encourage self-censorship;
legal and societal discrimination and harassment of members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community;
restricted labor rights; and
that over h
Its so much more than that. Damn, you are one dumb fool even for an hbcu diploma mill recipient. Honor killings. limited rights for women. Seriously, dont skim. Actually read. I'm going to bed. Damn your dumb.
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Its so much more than that. Damn, you are one dumb fool even for an hbcu diploma mill recipient. Honor killings. limited rights for women. Seriously, dont skim. Actually read. I'm going to bed. Damn your dumb.
lol...run away little idiot...I used YOUR SOURCE and said a lot of the same can be said about the US...and now youre going full retard.
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lol...run away little idiot...I used YOUR SOURCE and said a lot of the same can be said about the US...and now youre going full retard.
You're the moron who thinks Jordan and the United States are equivalent. I always thought you were stupid but you've risen to new heights of stupidity beyond even what the most deeply cynical could imagine another human being was capable of. There is no comparison between the human rights violations of the United States and Jordan. You obviously didnt read a damn thing. You're making a false equivalency.
You dont even deserve the glorified attendance award you recieved from the hbcu diploma mill you graduated from. How anyone could make such an absurd and asinine statement is a testament to the utter worthlessness of an hbcu education.
Four years wasted on the pursuit of a peice of paper with no greater value or representation of intellectual capacity than a peice of single ply toilet paper. In that respect Im making an unfair comparison as I wouldn't even wipe my ass with your sorry excuse for a diploma. It's a false equivalency I'm making. Yes both are made of paper but at least the toilet paper has the value of being useful for wiping ones ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] It would be the antonym of the mathematical concept of material equivalence.
Characteristics[edit]
A common way for this fallacy to be perpetuated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result. False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: If A is the set of c and d, and B is the set of d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal. d is not required to exist in both sets; only a passing similarity is required to cause this fallacy to be able to be used.
The following statements are examples of false equivalence:
"They're both soft, cuddly pets. There's no difference between a cat and a dog."
"We're all born naked. We're all no different from each other."
False equivalence is occasionally claimed in politics, where one political party will accuse their opponents of having performed equally wrong actions.[2] Commentators may also accuse journalists of false equivalence in their reporting of political controversies if the stories are perceived to assign equal blame to multiple parties.[3] False Equivalence should not be confused with false balance – the media phenomenon of presenting two sides of an argument equally in disregard of the merit or evidence on a subject (a form of argument to moderation).
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Authorities stepped up attacks on independent media, censoring over 260 websites that refused to comply with new government registration requirements.
Freedom of Expression and Belief
Jordanian law criminalizes speech deemed critical of the king, government officials, and institutions, as well as Islam and speech considered defamatory of others. In 2013, the authorities failed to amend the penal code to bring it into compliance with constitutional free speech guarantees strengthened in 2011, and continued to prosecute individuals on charges such as “insulting an official body,” using vaguely worded penal code articles that place impermissible restrictions on free expression.
In October 2012, Jordan’s parliament approved amendments to the Press and Publications Law that require all independent news websites operating within the country to register with the Press and Publications Department, and empower the director of the press department to close down or censor unregistered sites. The amendments also make an electronic publication’s owner, editor-in-chief, and director responsible, along with the author, for comments or posts that users place on its website. They also require the editor-in-chief of each news website to have been a member of the Jordan Press Association (JPA) for four years, although the JPA’s bylaws limit its membership to employees of print publications.
On June 2, 2013, the director of the Press and Publications Department ordered the blocking of over 260 news websites. They had refused to register in protest against the new press law requirements and to preserve their independence. Some blocked news websites registered with the press department in November after losing a lawsuit to overturn the censorship order.
On September 17, police arrested Nidhal al-Fara`nah and Amjad Mu`ala, respectively publisher and editor of the Jafra News website, after it posted a third-party YouTube video that authorities deemed insulting to the brother of Qatar’s ruler. Prosecutors charged both men with “disturbing relations with a foreign state” before the State Security Court, whose judges include serving military officers.
Following a visit in September, United Nations Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion or Belief Heiner Bielefeldt praised Jordan as “a safe haven and voice of religious moderation,” but noted that unrecognized religious groups such as Baha’is, Druze, and Evangelical Christians face difficulties adjudicating personal status issues.
In March, prosecutors referred five university students from Al al-Bayt University in Mafraq to the State Security Court on charges of “inciting sectarian or racist strife” and “insulting a religious symbol,” alleging that their style of dress and musical tastes indicated that they were “devil worshippers.” The State Security Court exonerated them on the first charge, but at time of writing they remained on trial before an ordinary court in Mafraq on the second charge, which they deny.
Freedom of Association and Assembly
Since the amended Public Gatherings Law took effect in March 2011, Jordanians no longer require government permission to hold public meetings or demonstrations. However, prosecutors continued to charge protesters with participating in “unlawful gatherings” under article 165 of the penal code.
At time of writing, dozens of cases arising from protest-related incidents in 2011 and 2012 were in process before the State Security Court. In many cases, prosecutors had charged defendants with “subverting the system of governance or inciting opposition to it,” using article 149 of the penal code.
On September 1, Prime Minister Ensour announced that the government planned to amend the State Security Court law to end trials of civilians before the court unless they faced terrorism, espionage, treason, money counterfeiting, or drug charges. This would bring the court into compliance with article 101 of the constitution, which allows military judges to try civilians only for these five groups of crimes; however, as the penal code classifies vaguely worded offenses such as “undermining the system of governance” as terrorism, the court will still be able to try civilians on such charges.
Refugees and Migrants
By November, over 550,000 persons from Syria had sought refuge in Jordan since 2011, according to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). Of these, approximately 113,000 were then housed at the Zatari Refugee Camp in northern Jordan, down from over 200,000 in April, and 4,000 others were at the Emirates-Jordan camp in Zarqa Governorate. Another camp for Syrians was under construction near al-Azraq, east of Amman.
The authorities did not permit entry to all those fleeing Syria’s conflict. In particular, they denied entry, in breach of international law, to Palestinian and Iraqi refugees residing in Syria, single males of fighting age, and people without documents. Human Rights Watch estimates that several thousand have been affected.
In late May, the daily number of Syrian refugee arrivals fell abruptly from over 1,500 to 300 or less. Refugees reported that Jordanian officials had closed the country’s border or imposed a strict limit on refugee entry. Jordanian officials attributed the fall to intense fighting between Syrian government and opposition forces, impeding refugees’ access to the border.
Hundreds of foreign migrants working in the duty-free Qualified Industrial Zones and in agriculture and domestic work complained about labor violations, including unpaid salaries, confiscation of passports, and forced labor. Government inspections and judicial redress remained lax.
Jordan hosted over 70,000 migrant domestic workers in 2013, mostly from the Philippines, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia. Nongovernmental organizations repeatedly referred domestic workers who had suffered multiple abuses to labor ministry investigators but they rarely classified any of them as victims of the crime of trafficking. Instead they treated each aspect of abuse such as non-payment of salaries separately, sometimes even detaining workers for “escaping” employers.
The Rights of Women and Girls
Jordan’s personal status code remains discriminatory despite a 2010 amendment. Marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslims are not recognized. A woman separated from a Muslim husband forfeits her custodial rights after the child reaches seven years old.
Article 9 of Jordan’s nationality law denies women married to foreign-born spouses the ability to pass on their nationality to their husbands and children.
Articles 98 and 340 of Jordan’s penal code, which provide for reduced sentences for perpetrators of “honor crimes,” remained in force. Honor crimes continued to take place in 2013. In one case, local media reported in April that a 25-year-old man in Zarqa Governorate murdered his 20-year-old sister, stabbing her 10 times in the chest, back, and throat, and dumped her body in the desert near their home. The man confessed to the police that he murdered his sister because she repeatedly left the house for long hours.
Torture, Arbitrary Detention, and Administrative Detention
Perpetrators of torture or other ill-treatment continued to enjoy near-total impunity. Credible allegations of torture or other ill-treatment are routinely ignored because it remains up to police, intelligence prosecutors, and judges to investigate, prosecute, and try fellow officers. At the Police Court, where many such cases are heard, two out of three sitting judges are serving police officers appointed by the police. To date, no police or intelligence officer has even been convicted of torture under article 208 of the penal code.
In late March 2013, a public prosecutor investigated the death-in-custody of Sultan al-Khatatba, whom authorities had arrested on a drug possession charge. The public prosecutor recommended that at least six police officers should face charges of torture under article 208, the first such recommendation known. Judicial authorities, however, transferred the case to the police court, which at time of writing had not released any public information on the progress of the case.
Local governors continued to use provisions of the Crime Prevention Law of 1954 to place individuals in administrative detention for up to one year in circumvention of the Criminal Procedure Law. The National Center for Human Rights reported that 12,410 persons were administratively detained, some for longer than one year, in 2012.
http://m.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/jordan
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Yeah Jordan is just like the US. You're making the same intellectually dishonest and moronic false equivalency as Obama.
In Jordan today, as in many other countries in the Mediterranean and Muslim worlds, "honor" killings of girls and women by their male relatives remain among the most prevalent physical threats to women. It is the most extreme form of domestic violence, a crime based in male privilege and prerogative and women's subordinate social status. Although the absolute number of murders is not high (though the numbers are very likely underreported), the effects are felt throughout society. "Honor" killings are the most tragic consequence and graphic illustration of deeply embedded, society-wide gender discrimination.
In Jordan, a woman's life is at risk if she engages in "immoral or shameful" acts, such as talking with a man not her husband or a blood relative (even in a public place), or refusing to tell a close male relative where she has been and with whom, or marrying someone of whom her family does not approve: in short for doing or being imputed to have done anything that, in traditional terms, is perceived to bring sexual dishonor on herself and therefore on her family. Male relatives may beat, shoot, stab, or otherwise physically harm an accused woman, with the approval of both her family members and large sections of the general population. Police rarely investigate "honor" killings, seldom take any initiative to deter these crimes, and typically treat the killers as vindicated men. The police also routinely force threatened women to undergo painful and humiliating virginity examinations at the request of their families in order to determine whether their hymens are intact.
http://m.hrw.org/node/12141/section/2
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You're the moron who thinks Jordan and the United States are equivalent. I always thought you were stupid but you've risen to new heights of stupidity beyond even what the most deeply cynical could imagine another human being was capable of. There is no comparison between the human rights violations of the United States and Jordan. You obviously didnt read a damn thing. You're making a false equivalency.
You dont even deserve the glorified attendance award you recieved from the hbcu diploma mill you graduated from. How anyone could make such an absurd and asinine statement is a testament to the utter worthlessness of an hbcu education.
Four years wasted on the pursuit of a peice of paper with no greater value or representation of intellectual capacity than a peice of single ply toilet paper. In that respect Im making an unfair comparison as I wouldn't even wipe my ass with your sorry excuse for a diploma. It's a false equivalency I'm making. Yes both are made of paper but at least the toilet paper has the value of being useful for wiping ones ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] It would be the antonym of the mathematical concept of material equivalence.
Characteristics[edit]
A common way for this fallacy to be perpetuated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result. False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: If A is the set of c and d, and B is the set of d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal. d is not required to exist in both sets; only a passing similarity is required to cause this fallacy to be able to be used.
The following statements are examples of false equivalence:
"They're both soft, cuddly pets. There's no difference between a cat and a dog."
"We're all born naked. We're all no different from each other."
False equivalence is occasionally claimed in politics, where one political party will accuse their opponents of having performed equally wrong actions.[2] Commentators may also accuse journalists of false equivalence in their reporting of political controversies if the stories are perceived to assign equal blame to multiple parties.[3] False Equivalence should not be confused with false balance – the media phenomenon of presenting two sides of an argument equally in disregard of the merit or evidence on a subject (a form of argument to moderation).
The more i read your posts, the more it looks like i just do something to you..like you go full retard with the personal attacks and digging into my past and attempting to evaluate me based on the smallest of sample sizes known to man...Like i seriously dont care enough about you to even attempt to talk about you...Dios Mio, you need some help...
Now regarding Jordan and US. You sent me a link to a list of human rights issues in Jordan. As i read the list i saw and then stated to you "you can apply a lot of these to the US"
Now all this other shit is you attempting to impress yourself on your awesome cut and paste skills. Youre going so far off the rails to prove your intellectual superiority to yourself, that youve fully redirected this whole argument into somewhere based on horse shit. I never said "jordan is just like the US" You said that and everything that followed was based on something i never said. Lets get a grip and then get back on track bucko.
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The more i read your posts, the more it looks like i just do something to you..like you go full retard with the personal attacks and digging into my past and attempting to evaluate me based on the smallest of sample sizes known to man...Like i seriously dont care enough about you to even attempt to talk about you...Dios Mio, you need some help...
Now regarding Jordan and US. You sent me a link to a list of human rights issues in Jordan. As i read the list i saw and then stated to you "you can apply a lot of these to the US"
Now all this other shit is you attempting to impress yourself on your awesome cut and paste skills. Youre going so far off the rails to prove your intellectual superiority to yourself, that youve fully redirected this whole argument into somewhere based on horse shit. I never said "jordan is just like the US" You said that and everything that followed was based on something i never said. Lets get a grip and then get back on track bucko.
The only thing you do is valid my opinion that hbcu's are nothing but printing factories for expensive toilet paper. It does make sense. They both are used for something brown that is pushed through the system and are disposable.
I pasted the info because you're to lazy to read it yourself. At least another get bigger might be interested. Read the definition of a false equivalency. I doubt you will.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/08/historian-i-dont-think-the-president-knows-very-much-about-the-crusades
Bingo - Obama is as stupid if not more than those who support him.
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Now if you want to have a discussion, we can do that for a while. But your MO if going full insult to argue a point that no one brought up, using extreme hyperbole and then say "stupid, idiot moron" means absolutley zero to me. Im not looking for Validation from Archer the internet guy. I just want to have an honest conversation.
You seem like the type of guy that gets into an internet argument and hurls a bunch of childish insults while arguing god knows what using extreme amounts of cut and paste, and then pats himself on the back smiling with self approval. Bro, its all in your head. It really is. No one cares..No one cares about you, no one cares about your dumb ass arguments you go to depths unknown to prove, no one cares that you call them dumb because no one cares about your opinion. Who are you? No one cares, but you.
Now the Mal needs coffee and cardio. Ill be back.
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Now if you want to have a discussion, we can do that for a while. But your MO if going full insult to argue a point that no one brought up, using extreme hyperbole and then say "stupid, idiot moron" means absolutley zero to me. Im not looking for Validation from Archer the internet guy. I just want to have an honest conversation.
You seem like the type of guy that gets into an internet argument and hurls a bunch of childish insults while arguing god knows what using extreme amounts of cut and paste, and then pats himself on the back smiling with self approval. Bro, its all in your head. It really is. No one cares..No one cares about you, no one cares about your dumb ass arguments you go to depths unknown to prove, no one cares that you call them dumb because no one cares about your opinion. Who are you? No one cares, but you.
Now the Mal needs coffee and cardio. Ill be back.
The problem w Obama's false narrative is that he left out the muslim atrocities during the medieval ages that were going on at the same time while only blaming Christians, and now there is only one religion largely still doing that byullshit and its the pedo religion of the false prophet Mohamedpedo
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Now if you want to have a discussion, we can do that for a while. But your MO if going full insult to argue a point that no one brought up, using extreme hyperbole and then say "stupid, idiot moron" means absolutley zero to me. Im not looking for Validation from Archer the internet guy. I just want to have an honest conversation.
You seem like the type of guy that gets into an internet argument and hurls a bunch of childish insults while arguing god knows what using extreme amounts of cut and paste, and then pats himself on the back smiling with self approval. Bro, its all in your head. It really is. No one cares..No one cares about you, no one cares about your dumb ass arguments you go to depths unknown to prove, no one cares that you call them dumb because no one cares about your opinion. Who are you? No one cares, but you.
Now the Mal needs coffee and cardio. Ill be back.
Youre describing your method. This is exactly how you entered this thread. Your little ego was hurt by me in another thread and you sought me out in this one. You sought a confrontation with me. This describes exactly how you entered the climate thread as well. You made a snide comment but never once addresed the contents of the article.
You say you want a discussion but you don't even read any of the information. You didn't read thd climate article and yet felt you had the right to chastise others as ignorant. Even after calling you out on it you still refused to read the article.
As dumb as you are even you must recognize comparing Jordan and the United States is ridiculously ignorant. I provided evidence that proved you made an idiot comparison that on a good day might be reffered to as a false equivalency.
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The problem w Obama's false narrative is that he left out the muslim atrocities during the medieval ages that were going on at the same time while only blaming Christians, and now there is only one religion largely still doing that byullshit and its the pedo religion of the false prophet Mohamedpedo
I will fully give you that. But to me it seems, like certian people following one religion are condemning another religion for its killings in the name of the religion.
And people of one religion had a time where they were doing the exact same thing. And its not just the Crusades. Christianity was used and killings and inequality all throughout Americas growth.
Im not sure why Obama felt the need to say what he did.
I do know there are a couple of mistakes. One is falsely attributing the killings to every muslim. These are people of the extreme fringe minority of Islam that do this shit.
And the other mistake is Organized religion is the culprit. So maybe Obama was saying there was a time where the lunatic parts of Christianity was using the cross to commit unspeakable acts. Doesnt mean its the whole religion. Doesnt mean Christianity is respinsible for it. It means that these insane psychos interpretation of the religion was fucked up. I always thought "how can a man from the white christian knights of the KKK burn a cross to symbolize their faith and beleif in Jesus...and then hang a man or blow up a church with little girls in it" Its their warped view of the religion. Not the religion itself.
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Youre describing your method. This is exactly how you entered this thread. Your little ego was hurt by me in another thread and you sought me out in this one. You sought a confrontation with me. This describes exactly how you entered the climate thread as well. You made a snide comment but never once addresed the contents of the article.
You say you want a discussion but you don't even read any of the information. You didn't read thd climate article and yet felt you had the right to chastise others as ignorant. Even after calling you out on it you still refused to read the article.
As dumb as you are even you must recognize comparing Jordan and the United States is ridiculously ignorant. I provided evidence that proved you made an idiot comparison that on a good day might be reffered to as a false equivalency.
Dont flatter yourself brother...I simply went on a page that was discussing a topic i was already talking about. I see these internets have you in a sort of alternate reality.
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I will fully give you that. But to me it seems, like certian people following one religion are condemning another religion for its killings in the name of the religion.
And people of one religion had a time where they were doing the exact same thing. And its not just the Crusades. Christianity was used and killings and inequality all throughout Americas growth.
Im not sure why Obama felt the need to say what he did.
I do know there are a couple of mistakes. One is falsely attributing the killings to every muslim. These are people of the extreme fringe minority of Islam that do this shit.
And the other mistake is Organized religion is the culprit. So maybe Obama was saying there was a time where the lunatic parts of Christianity was using the cross to commit unspeakable acts. Doesnt mean its the whole religion. Doesnt mean Christianity is respinsible for it. It means that these insane psychos interpretation of the religion was fucked up. I always thought "how can a man from the white christian knights of the KKK burn a cross to symbolize their faith and beleif in Jesus...and then hang a man or blow up a church with little girls in it" Its their warped view of the religion. Not the religion itself.
Its a matter of relevence. What christianity did 800 years ago has little relevence on what Islam is doing today. It also demonstrated the total historical ignorance by the President of the nature of the crusades. As i said before as an atheist if Christianity were behaving the same way today I woud be just as critical. The fact is that the way Islam is behaving today is exactly the way it behaved since the beginning of its inception hence the reference to being stuck in the 6th century is appropriate
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The guy All of the conservatives are sucking off now....King of Jordan...yeah...hes a muslim too...He claims to be a direct decendent of Muhammed.
And he Runs a pretty developed country...
See your idotic problem is that you are full of the Generalizations. That like your thing...
There are people that follow islam that dont kill people...Jesus h christ youre narrow minded...
Who is "sucking off" the king of Jordan? He is going to act like any other player over there, and his allegiance will go to the highest bidder. The Arab tribal mentality along with the inbreeding, lack of education, and Islam make for a bunch of cave men. On top of that Islam itself is not simply a religion. It is a social, economic, and governmental system as well. Sure there are Muslims that don't overtly act out and kill people, but at the same time they do nothing to stop the shit either. The Koran is full of passages about how to deal with the infidel, it's all there. Don't bother to go and dig up some old testament versus, nothing to do with Christianity.
So if Jordan wants to bomb the shit out of ISIS, good for them, keep the US out of it. Put the infidel in there and suddenly these fuckers can put aside there differences and focus on the outsider. Shiite's and Sunni's hate each other, Wahabist hate everyone.
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That's fine but right now in 2015 - Boko Harum , ISIS, Al Queada , Hamas, Hezbollah, etc - are the main culprits and need to be dealt with. Why bring up shit from 800 years ago?
I will fully give you that. But to me it seems, like certian people following one religion are condemning another religion for its killings in the name of the religion.
And people of one religion had a time where they were doing the exact same thing. And its not just the Crusades. Christianity was used and killings and inequality all throughout Americas growth.
Im not sure why Obama felt the need to say what he did.
I do know there are a couple of mistakes. One is falsely attributing the killings to every muslim. These are people of the extreme fringe minority of Islam that do this shit.
And the other mistake is Organized religion is the culprit. So maybe Obama was saying there was a time where the lunatic parts of Christianity was using the cross to commit unspeakable acts. Doesnt mean its the whole religion. Doesnt mean Christianity is respinsible for it. It means that these insane psychos interpretation of the religion was fucked up. I always thought "how can a man from the white christian knights of the KKK burn a cross to symbolize their faith and beleif in Jesus...and then hang a man or blow up a church with little girls in it" Its their warped view of the religion. Not the religion itself.
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Learn the truth About Muhammad and the Islamic vs Christian crusades.
Great clip. Short and sweet.
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One is falsely attributing the killings to every muslim.
I don't see that.
We all know that when they say 'Far Right Radicals', that not everybody on the right is looking to kill people.
We all know that when they say 'Christian Radicals', that not all Christians are looking to kill people.
And we all know that when they say 'Muslim Radicals', that not all Muslims are looking to kill people.
It seems more like childish, politically correct nonsense to me.