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Title: acid reflux
Post by: bigmc on February 09, 2015, 01:54:21 PM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 09, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job

Diet and stress.  Drink lots of water and peppermint tea , sleep on your left side.  Strange as it sounds but sleeping on your right makes it worst.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Nails on February 09, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
TUMS
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: TestDummy on February 09, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
can you double up the dose of omniprazole? I went and got a prescription and it's the same just twice as strong dose, also take it in the morning half an hour before you eat anything
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Grape Ape on February 09, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job

You basically have to cycle through the proton pump inhibitor medications until you find the one that works for you. Omeprazole did not work for me either but lansoprazole did
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: TestDummy on February 09, 2015, 02:34:18 PM
You basically have to cycle through the proton pump inhibitor medications until you find the one that works for you. Omeprazole did not work for me either but lansoprazole did

I can't remember what I was on before omniprazole but it started to give me gyno so watch out for that
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: King Shizzo on February 09, 2015, 02:37:01 PM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job
I'm sure the alcohol doesn't help. I had it bad when I was drinking. Nothing at all now.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: SilverSpoon on February 09, 2015, 03:06:58 PM
Digestive enzymes FTW.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: SilverSpoon on February 09, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
And Bragg's ACV.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Marty Champions on February 09, 2015, 03:12:48 PM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job
olive oil and water and activity if u have energy
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: HTexan on February 09, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
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Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Marty Champions on February 09, 2015, 03:19:20 PM
If baking soda doesnt work do olive oil i had this bad last year
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 09, 2015, 03:22:43 PM
Digestive enzymes FTW.

This.

And Bragg's ACV.

And this x1000000.

Clean up the diet, minimize toxins as well.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 09, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
Do a shot of apple cider vinegar every morning. 
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 09, 2015, 05:01:02 PM
This.

And this x1000000.

Clean up the diet, minimize toxins as well.

What does minimize toxins even mean?

try some bitters, they will stimulate gastrin, enzymatic action, bile secretion. Lower the dose of the PPI over a period of time. Add some demulcents to your diet like psyllium, meditate (stress), don't have asthma, use gaviscon as you are weaning or after each meal. Must be after meal, otherwise the raft (gel if forms) won't settle

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Knooger on February 09, 2015, 05:06:39 PM
This will help: don't eat for 3 hours before you go to bed.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: viking1 on February 09, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
Too much salt in the diet...  drink more water.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: illuminati on February 09, 2015, 05:59:41 PM
Try these.
Ginger tea during day.
Camomile tea before bed.
Add a little Himalayan Sea salt to diet.
Few teaspoons of cabbage juice ( fermented ) half hour before eating.
Cut back on processed foods & high fat foods.

HTH.. ;)


Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 09, 2015, 06:36:54 PM
Masturbate more. Makes you forget about the acid.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 09, 2015, 09:58:40 PM
What does minimize toxins even mean?

try some bitters, they will stimulate gastrin, enzymatic action, bile secretion. Lower the dose of the PPI over a period of time. Add some demulcents to your diet like psyllium, meditate (stress), don't have asthma, use gaviscon as you are weaning or after each meal. Must be after meal, otherwise the raft (gel if forms) won't settle



Minimize toxins means to decrease the amount of toxins that you put inside or on your body.

What does "don't have asthma" mean for the practical purposes of this conversation lol?
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: 240 is Back on February 09, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Diet and stress.  Drink lots of water and peppermint tea , sleep on your left side.  Strange as it sounds but sleeping on your right makes it worst.

THIS.

sleep on left side, HUGE changes.   also yeah, stress... fuck that stuff.  we all do it.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: sync pulse on February 09, 2015, 11:33:12 PM
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 10, 2015, 01:42:46 AM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job

Illuminati and El Diablo Blanco made some really good suggestions. I had reflux for about 6 months last years. Took a lot of experimentation to get rid of it.

Peppermint tea and Ginger tea both really help, they work via different mechanisms so its worth alternating them throughout the day.

Camomile is an anfi-inflmmatory which soothes the intestines.

Fresh ginger is even better, jbuy a root from the supermarket and slice a few pieces into camomile tea. Drink all liquids away from a meal.

You want to get off PPI as quick as you can, they dont really help, just mask the problem.

That main problem with reflux is that your stomach acid is actually too weak. Because its so weak, it cannot break down the food you are eating effectively, when you have weak stomach acid and lots of liquid floating around, this is when it can flow back up your oesophagus and cause the burning sensation.

If you eat a meal drink very little liquid with it, if possible none at all. This will ensure your stomach acid is as strong as possible, food will be digested effectively and the potential for flow back minimal. Another good idea which one of the other posters suggested was drinking some Bitters before a meal which will boost your stomach acid production.

The other problem is with the stomach valve not closing, partly this is due to a lack of acidity which plays a part in the valve closing and preventing flow back of acid but also a magnesium deficiency. Mangesium oxide will help take 500mg every day.

Slippery elm is another supplement of use to try which helps form a soft mucilage and can help heal and protect the lining of the stomach and oesophagus. The powder can be mixed with milk, something the native indians used as medicine. Works pretty well.

Things like Gaviscon, Pepto Bismol are awful stuff, they treat the symptom and not the cause, they are alkaline and reduce your stomach acidity further so that you dont get the burning sensation when the acid hits your oesophagus. They do nothing to treat the cause of heartburn or GERD, and in fact extend and make it worse.

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Skorp1o on February 10, 2015, 01:53:39 AM
I battled this on and off and have done so for many years....in the end its my lifestyle choices that help not the meds.

when I get it, I stay away from meats and caffeinated drinks and alcohol.

Starchy foods seem to help, porridge for breakfast and potatoes/ pastas later, I'd only eat white fish and eggs for proteins...even milk gives me a hard time.

Usually by eating like the above I'm back to normal within 24hrs.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 10, 2015, 02:33:17 AM
symptom of gluten intolerance

I would go with this. Cut back dramatically on grains and replace them with green leafys.

This was the single best change I've made to my diet in my life. No more "racing to the can" or acid stomach. In addition, I used to get colds 2 or 3 times a year. Now, it's maybe once every two years.

To put a cherry on top, this change will probably knock off at least 500 calories a day, making it easier to stay lean.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 10, 2015, 06:24:26 AM
Illuminati and El Diablo Blanco made some really good suggestions. I had reflux for about 6 months last years. Took a lot of experimentation to get rid of it.

Peppermint tea and Ginger tea both really help, they work via different mechanisms so its worth alternating them throughout the day.

Camomile is an anfi-inflmmatory which soothes the intestines.

Fresh ginger is even better, jbuy a root from the supermarket and slice a few pieces into camomile tea. Drink all liquids away from a meal.

You want to get off PPI as quick as you can, they dont really help, just mask the problem.

That main problem with reflux is that your stomach acid is actually too weak. Because its so weak, it cannot break down the food you are eating effectively, when you have weak stomach acid and lots of liquid floating around, this is when it can flow back up your oesophagus and cause the burning sensation.

If you eat a meal drink very little liquid with it, if possible none at all. This will ensure your stomach acid is as strong as possible, food will be digested effectively and the potential for flow back minimal. Another good idea which one of the other posters suggested was drinking some Bitters before a meal which will boost your stomach acid production.

The other problem is with the stomach valve not closing, partly this is due to a lack of acidity which plays a part in the valve closing and preventing flow back of acid but also a magnesium deficiency. Mangesium oxide will help take 500mg every day.

Slippery elm is another supplement of use to try which helps form a soft mucilage and can help heal and protect the lining of the stomach and oesophagus. The powder can be mixed with milk, something the native indians used as medicine. Works pretty well.

Things like Gaviscon, Pepto Bismol are awful stuff, they treat the symptom and not the cause, they are alkaline and reduce your stomach acidity further so that you dont get the burning sensation when the acid hits your oesophagus. They do nothing to treat the cause of heartburn or GERD, and in fact extend and make it worse.



This is a phenomenal post.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Grape Ape on February 10, 2015, 06:59:02 AM
I went trough all this too.  The thing about gaviscon, etc is that while, yes, the alleviate symptons only, the can be the diierence between sleeping for a week and not.  i used  
ppi for two years to combat some really bad issues, then weaned off them and only use occasionally.

The truth was though, the stomach do was sooo not progressive on addressing diet.  only cared about meds.

Im also on oxy and typing lefty right now so fuck correcting typos
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
This is a phenomenal post.

Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


 :D
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2015, 04:44:17 PM
Minimize toxins means to decrease the amount of toxins that you put inside or on your body.

What does "don't have asthma" mean for the practical purposes of this conversation lol?

toxins is a stupid term that is meaningless. Some things are toxic to others but benign in some. is semen toxic?

Asthma is the etiology of GERD in many, constricted bronchi cause reflexive action and UES relaxation.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: SilverSpoon on February 10, 2015, 05:23:44 PM
This is a phenomenal post.

All stuff Rheo Blair said to do.

Great post.

Dude was way ahead of his time.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 10, 2015, 07:25:10 PM
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


 :D

Agreed that sphincters and semen are your specialty, cowboy! Keep prescribing that good ole Prilosec!
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: muscleman-2013 on February 10, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
I take a couple of small drinks of Apple Cider Vinegar each day.  Works wonders!
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 11, 2015, 12:25:04 AM
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


 :D

Yep Im aware that UES needs to be tight as I mentioned that in my post. Im aware peppermint is a relaxant as well, but I think its still worthwhile if you are doing all the other things in my post. Most people who have gerd are or reflex are usutall experiencing other digestive issues and peppermint helps to address these.

As I mentioned in my post all liquids, including peppermint tea, should be drunk away from meal time so as not to stimulate the situation where you might have food present, weak acid and the UES relaxed.
Drink the tea away from meals so it can help reduce irritation in the digestive system.

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 03:46:40 AM
I wonder if bigmc drinks everyday. If so, then that would definitely be a factor.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: peroni on February 11, 2015, 04:16:52 AM
Diet and timing of certain things in relation to bedtime will help. I have a sliding hiatal hernia and have dealt with it for many years. I used aciphex for several years as well as few other proton pump inhibitors but realized through dietary practices, I didn't need to rely on meds.

If you must drink coffee, switch to decaf or half caff. That made a world of difference.

Avoid acidic foods such as tomato sauce near bed time. A Stay away from spicy and greasy food. Sugar in excess is to be avoided as well. As far as drinking goes, I stay far away from red wine.

Should you start to get reflux, pepto is a great help but is often times to swallow if the reflux is severe so I use the childrens tablets. Just chew them up a couple at a time.
Lastly, when heartburn creeps in, take a mango extract pill. Nothing but mango. It's amazingly helpful
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: bigmc on February 11, 2015, 04:19:31 AM
I wonder if bigmc drinks everyday. If so, then that would definitely be a factor.

i only drink once a month
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: crownshep on February 11, 2015, 05:22:37 AM
Had the same problem for 5 years and been on omniprazole and after breakfast (porridge) would always feel like i was having a heart attack,so i decided to cut out as many wheat products as possible,i drink honey and lemon when i wake up on an empty stomach,and i`ve changed the breakfast to a handful of almonds and a banana.i`ve also stopped with the medication now 6 months ago and not once have i had a problem.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 11, 2015, 05:39:59 AM
There seems to be an aversion to eating vegetables for breakfast.

My breakfast is 4 scrambled eggs, mesclun salad and half a large red pepper.

Not only is this breakfast highly nutritious, but it's very low cal, giving you some wiggle room for indiscretions later in the day. 8)
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Lord Chronos on February 11, 2015, 05:44:33 AM
Diet and timing of certain things in relation to bedtime will help. I have a sliding hiatal hernia and have dealt with it for many years. I used aciphex for several years as well as few other proton pump inhibitors but realized through dietary practices, I didn't need to rely on meds.

If you must drink coffee, switch to decaf or half caff. That made a world of difference.

Avoid acidic foods such as tomato sauce near bed time. A Stay away from spicy and greasy food. Sugar in excess is to be avoided as well. As far as drinking goes, I stay far away from red wine.

Should you start to get reflux, pepto is a great help but is often times to swallow if the reflux is severe so I use the childrens tablets. Just chew them up a couple at a time.
Lastly, when heartburn creeps in, take a mango extract pill. Nothing but mango. It's amazingly helpful


Some really good points here. Tomato, spicy foods, red wine can all have irritaing effects on the digestive system.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: HonestBob on February 11, 2015, 05:53:42 AM
toxins is a stupid term that is meaningless. Some things are toxic to others but benign in some. is semen toxic?

Asthma is the etiology of GERD in many, constricted bronchi cause reflexive action and UES relaxation.

Interesting, I have never heard of that.

OP should also check for h pylori as that is all too often a cause that most docs miss.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: bigmc on February 11, 2015, 06:02:18 AM
i eat too much bread

everything is a sandwich

i need to cut it out see how that plays

its the only bad part f my diet
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 06:05:57 AM
i eat too much bread

everything is a sandwich

i need to cut it out see how that plays

its the only bad part f my diet
I would love to be the meat in a bigmc sandwich.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: The Wrong Advices on February 11, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
symptom of gluten intolerance

I used to have wicked reflux, the wake-up-in-the-middle of the night choking kind of reflux.

Cut back on wheat and corn-based processed foods, no more reflux. It's 100% diet, aggravated by stress.

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: LittleJ on February 11, 2015, 06:36:58 AM
I've got to sleep sitting up all the time. I've got IBS,  so I take metamucil 3 times a day and Bentyl 4 times a day.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Tapeworm on February 11, 2015, 06:58:28 AM
I used to have wicked reflux, the wake-up-in-the-middle of the night choking kind of reflux.

Cut back on wheat and corn-based processed foods, no more reflux. It's 100% diet, aggravated by stress.



You may find corn in glutes but there is no gluten in corn.  Yep, it's frankenfood that causes problems.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Thick Nick on February 11, 2015, 07:55:49 AM
i only drink once a month... for 30 days.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2015, 08:33:25 AM
Like Chronos said, don't drink about an hour before eating.  Also wait an hour after.  people drink way too much during meals and it affects your digestion causing the reflux.  Farah who was shot dealt with bad issues on this and when he stopped drinking during a meal it helped a lot.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: loco on February 11, 2015, 08:36:17 AM
Peppermint tea is a big no no for acid reflux brah, it's a spasmolytic and myorelaxant (ever wonder why muscle cream smells like mint), well if you had went to a real school you would know that the stomach and esophagus are separated by the UES, which needs to be tight not relaxed.


 :D

It's if you had gone, not if you had went.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: loco on February 11, 2015, 08:39:39 AM
Stop eating wheat and anything that contains wheat and this along with most of your other ailments will be cured...according to cardiologist William Davis, MD.  Could be true.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 11, 2015, 08:52:42 AM
dont drink juice or soda and minimize food with graphic design.

Havent had it for years...well hade it yesterday so I almost puked, but only last for some minutes then away!

Rule Nr1...keep away medicins, body fix almost anything. Or else u will be a drunken slave of medications! Going the hard way is the best way :D
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2015, 09:13:19 AM
dont drink juice or soda and minimize food with graphic design.

Havent had it for years...well hade it yesterday so I almost puked, but only last for some minutes then away!

Rule Nr1...keep away medicins, body fix almost anything. Or else u will be a drunken slave of medications! Going the hard way is the best way :D

lol at body fix anything.  Like how the average life expentancy is now 3 times more than it was a couple hundred years ago thanks to medical advancements.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: maxkane69 on February 11, 2015, 09:24:21 AM
does anyone know any good remedies

its killing me

im on omniprazole but it isn't doing the job

JUST DRINK A TABLESPOON OF RED WINE VINEGRETTE ANYTIME YOU HAVE ACID REFLUX !!!
IT WORK. TRUST ME !!!
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: crownshep on February 11, 2015, 10:27:13 AM
Stop eating wheat and anything that contains wheat and this along with most of your other ailments will be cured...according to cardiologist William Davis, MD.  Could be true.

Wheat Belly is a brilliant book,cutting out wheat has cured my asthma after 40 years as well has stopping the hay fever i would get in summer.Wheat today is not the same wheat as it used to be.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: bradistani on February 11, 2015, 12:57:25 PM
I used to have wicked reflux, the wake-up-in-the-middle of the night choking kind of reflux.

Cut back on wheat and corn-based processed foods, no more reflux. It's 100% diet, aggravated by stress.



this is absolutely the worst thing ever. jolted out of deep sleep, gasping for air and the feeling like your oesophagus and nose are on fire after bringing up lovely stomach juices
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Marty Champions on February 11, 2015, 03:44:23 PM
Wheat Belly is a brilliant book,cutting out wheat has cured my asthma after 40 years as well has stopping the hay fever i would get in summer.Wheat today is not the same wheat as it used to be.
what about beer, refined sugar or meat?
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: orion on February 11, 2015, 07:35:28 PM
Nobody mentions the obvious?  Stop doing orals, just stick to injections.  Bodybuilding related.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 12, 2015, 04:15:36 AM
It's if you had gone, not if you had went.

shut up I am trolling :D
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 12, 2015, 04:16:56 AM
Yep Im aware that UES needs to be tight as I mentioned that in my post. Im aware peppermint is a relaxant as well, but I think its still worthwhile if you are doing all the other things in my post. Most people who have gerd are or reflex are usutall experiencing other digestive issues and peppermint helps to address these.

As I mentioned in my post all liquids, including peppermint tea, should be drunk away from meal time so as not to stimulate the situation where you might have food present, weak acid and the UES relaxed.
Drink the tea away from meals so it can help reduce irritation in the digestive system.



I agree, I am partially fucking around, it works for gas like nothing else.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Man of Steel on February 12, 2015, 05:59:30 AM
Avoid chocolate, tomato products, highly acidic foods, orange juice, excessive spicy foods hours before bed.

Stay more propped up while you sleep.

Take a Ranitadine tablet or two after a meal with any of the foods mentioned above.

Double up your Omniprazole so it's more prescription strength.

Cutting down on stress is always helpful......my wife actually got a new job to help reduce stress that caused reflux.....worked wonders.

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: illuminati on February 12, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Nobody mentions the obvious?  Stop doing orals, just stick to injections.  Bodybuilding related.















Ha ha. Yes that can be of help.
It certainly reduced my stomach problems.
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: evandatp on February 12, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
<snip>...minimize food with graphic design.
Use photoshop, you mean?
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: loco on February 13, 2015, 09:38:34 AM
shut up I am trolling :D

Oh, okay then.  Didn't know you is trolling.   :D
Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: TheGrinch on February 13, 2015, 10:05:52 AM


My breakfast is 4 scrambled eggs, mesclun salad and half a large red pepper.



mee toooo...


(http://www.brianandjillshow.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/ep-1213/05_quaaludes.jpg)

Title: Re: acid reflux
Post by: Necrosis on February 15, 2015, 09:59:57 AM
Oh, okay then.  Didn't know you is trolling.   :D

Well the troll won't work well if you point out errors now will it?

 :D