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Title: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 02:42:39 PM
I know its easy to say yes given the amount of people affected by this terrible disease, but would it ultimately doom humanity?

Diseases are nature's way of fighting overpopulation of species.

In 2012, there were an estimated 8.2 million deaths around the world from cancer.

Imagine how many extra people would be on the earth in a decade if a cure was found.


Its a difficult subject.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: _aj_ on February 10, 2015, 02:47:54 PM
Its a difficult subject.

It really isn't for a moral person.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 02:51:29 PM
It really isn't for a moral person.
Of course not on an individual level. We would all want a family member or ourselves cured of cancer, but so would everyone else on the planet.

Would a cure for cancer be good for the human race in the long run?
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 10, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
Mother Nature won't be stopped.  If we cured cancer and stopped millions of deaths per year something else would kill off humans.  In the end there is a balance before the ant farm collapses on itself.  Just think about this.  The earth is a sphere and below the crust is oil, mines, gas etc... Once the earth is bled dry, what will fill those gaps? Eventually the surface will collapse inwards.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: BB on February 10, 2015, 02:56:08 PM

Imagine how many extra people would be on the earth in a decade if a cure was found.


Its a difficult subject.

This truly is one of those questions that takes on different answers depending on whether it's happening to you and yours, or me and mine. 

:(  ;D.

Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 02:57:20 PM
Mother Nature won't be stopped.  If we cured cancer and stopped millions of deaths per year something else would kill off humans.  In the end there is a balance before the ant farm collapses on itself.  Just think about this.  The earth is a sphere and below the crust is oil, mines, gas etc... Once the earth is bled dry, what will fill those gaps? Eventually the surface will collapse inwards.
Didn't we already stop/slow countless deaths with the HIV/AIDS cocktails that are out there?

The more we advance in medicine, we better advance that much more in science and exploration. The earth can handle only so much.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 10, 2015, 02:57:26 PM
Bitcoins you say?
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Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: _aj_ on February 10, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
Another dumbass thread that will get "10 pages, easy" with 5 of them coming from Shizzo. Then Shizzo will congratulate himself on being able to "bring the traffic" and once again crown himself king of Getbig or something equally retarded.

Boring, boring, boring.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 10, 2015, 03:05:06 PM
King of Getbig bringing some well-deserved traffic to Getbig yet again!

Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Another dumbass thread that will get "10 pages, easy" with 5 of them coming from Shizzo. Then Shizzo will congratulate himself on being able to "bring the traffic" and once again crown himself king of Getbig or something equally retarded.

Boring, boring, boring.
Its called being active in the discussion. Why do you get angry about what I write?

Only a simpleton would find my threads boring.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: BigRo on February 10, 2015, 03:10:37 PM
big pharma doesnt want there to be a cure for cancer.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 10, 2015, 03:11:17 PM
It would be a good thing for people that have cancer and their families.

It would also be a good thing for the person that discovered it.

I'm going with yes.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: _aj_ on February 10, 2015, 03:13:59 PM

Why not? It's not like its eating into any of their existing market share or diverting revenue stream from anything else.

Now say they found a cure for people to be able to quit smoking or hard recreational drugs instantly.......whole different ball game then.



Joon, bringing the business savvy to Getbig...
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 03:16:35 PM

It would boost the worldwide economy on a scale never seen before with unprecedented demand for the drugs and save billions in health service costs.

Would create millions of jobs worldwide.

Can only be a good thing.

Giant pharmaceutical companies have probably already done matrix's on this shit.

 
Would it boost the economy, or actually hurt it? The healthcare industry would be massively affected.

You could argue that there would be loss of work, due to less demand in the healthcare field, and more people alive to compete for jobs.

As sick as it sounds, death is big business.



Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 10, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
For decades people thought that we didn't need our appendix. That it was basically worthless. Now they just found out that the appendix is a storage area for good bacteria...
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: BigRo on February 10, 2015, 03:24:17 PM

Why not? It's not like its eating into any of their existing market share or diverting revenue stream from anything else.

Now say they found a cure for people to be able to quit smoking or hard recreational drugs instantly.......whole different ball game then.



big money they make from the cancer drugs and treatments. Its a thriving business.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
There would also be a push for the cure to either be free, or made affordable for everyone.

There is no way that the healthcare industry would not sustain huge losses in income.

No more surgeries, chemo, medications, or patient care related to treating cancer.

That is billions of dollars.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: AlphaGyno on February 10, 2015, 03:48:05 PM
Shizzo desperately looking for attention with this thread title. Hope you die in a fake car crash again soon  ::)
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 03:53:32 PM

Everything is governed by the laws of supply and demand in economics.

Lets take a very simplistic viewpoint not even taking into account whole bunch of shit and do some basic maths.

a) Take the net number of total cancer suffers who would be saved worldwide each year, lets call this x.
b) Multiply that number by the sum total  of revenue created for them purchasing the drug each year (which would be huge, think how much HIV pills cost) call this y

c) Subtract above number by the number of cancer wards that would become obsolete (who are by in large subsidized by your tax dollars anyway) account for lost revue in jobs in relation to taxpayer money saved for funding such places and those jobs in the first place and figure out net difference.
d) Add in revenue streams created and new jobs created for administrating/distributing/marketing the drugs.

Your creating money and saving money, its a win win.



 




You are under the assumption that the cure would be in pill form or somehow have to be re administered more than once.

What if it was just a one-time shot (ala vaccination) that was given to everyone for little to no cost?  Would it be covered by insurance?

Would insurance companies also suffer extreme losses in revenue?

There are many factors that would potentially be involved, many of which I do not see companies making more money then they are now.


The only upside would be the actual cure of cancer, which does not bring into question the long term ramifications of saving so many lives.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 10, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
I am not even taking into account at this stage indirect benefits such as the longer people live, the more products and services they need, the more money they would have to spend on paying tax....blah blah blah....you see where I am going with this.!
The longer people live, the more strain it will put on taxpayers and families needing to care for the elderly.

Social security is not even a guarantee to my generation.

This is only delving into the first-world problems end of it.

Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Dave D on February 10, 2015, 05:45:22 PM
I appreciate the fact that the op thinks he's clever, that said I wish he never received vaccinations or medical treatment as a youngster.

I'm sure your neighborhood is overcrowded with cancer survivors,  making it very difficult for you to enjoy a quality life.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: SF1900 on February 10, 2015, 06:00:48 PM
Sympathy bump to help garner more responses,  so it can reach 10 pages.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Dave D on February 10, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Sympathy bump to help garner more responses,  so it can reach 10 pages.

Doing God's work. You're a noble and honorable man.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Scott on February 10, 2015, 06:22:11 PM
I suppose it all depends upon who you administer it to.

Think about that!
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: visualizeperfection on February 10, 2015, 06:25:13 PM
Shizzo really thinks he is intelligent/witty.


There is likely already a cure for cancer BTW.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: SF1900 on February 10, 2015, 06:29:07 PM
Doing God's work. You're a noble and honorable man.

Just trying to help king Shizzo reign supreme on getbig. He gets excited when his threads get a lot of replies.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 10, 2015, 06:36:25 PM
Might have a point if it only affected the elderly. Toddlers, adolescents, teenagers, young men and women - don't really see the good here.

Unless it just focused on assholes, maybe.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Wiggs on February 10, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
You want the cancer rates to drop, stop smoking, stop eating GMOs, stop getting most of the vaccines, stop drinking the poison water, keep your refined products including sugar to a minimum, exercise and keep your red meat consumption to a minimum. That's where most of your cancers come from. We are out of balance and this is what you get.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: LittleJ on February 10, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
I really hope so, I've got to take medicine for a lifetime time so there's no chance of me catching liver cancer. Not getting vaccinated is what caused me to get this.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 10, 2015, 06:57:41 PM
You want the cancer rates to drop, stop smoking, stop eating GMOs, stop getting most of the vaccines, stop drinking the poison water, keep your refined products including sugar to a minimum, exercise and keep your red meat consumption to a minimum. That's where most of your cancers come from. We are out of balance and this is what you get.

This too, Wiggs?
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 10, 2015, 07:33:54 PM

Why not? It's not like its eating into any of their existing market share or diverting revenue stream from anything else.

Now say they found a cure for people to be able to quit smoking or hard recreational drugs instantly.......whole different ball game then.



Ibogaine....it's called fucking ibogaine. And DMT.


Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: liquid_c on February 10, 2015, 09:19:52 PM
People who believe in one wacky conspiracy theory are very likely to believe in multiple wacky conspiracy theories.  The anti vaccine nutjobs are particularly bad.  As for "big pharma" not wanting a cure for cancer?!  Please...  If they can charge a lot of chemotherapy, imagine how much they could charge for a cure.  Steve Jobs is a good example.  He actually had a type of pancreatic cancer that actually had a decent chance at being controlled if you get surgery early.  What did he do?  He tried special diets and "natural" treatments.  He did this for around 9 months and then when it wasn't working he then said oh shit, I better get the surgery.  By then the cancer had spread and he was fucked.  Of course we all know though that "cannabis oil" is the magic cure for cancer. 
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Wiggs on February 10, 2015, 09:29:07 PM
People who believe in one wacky conspiracy theory are very likely to believe in multiple wacky conspiracy theories.  The anti vaccine nutjobs are particularly bad.  As for "big pharma" not wanting a cure for cancer?!  Please...  If they can charge a lot of chemotherapy, imagine how much they could charge for a cure.  Steve Jobs is a good example.  He actually had a type of pancreatic cancer that actually had a decent chance at being controlled if you get surgery early.  What did he do?  He tried special diets and "natural" treatments.  He did this for around 9 months and then when it wasn't working he then said oh shit, I better get the surgery.  By then the cancer had spread and he was fucked.  Of course we all know though that "cannabis oil" is the magic cure for cancer. 

Quite the generalization liquid c u n t.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: DanM on February 10, 2015, 10:44:58 PM
People who believe in one wacky conspiracy theory are very likely to believe in multiple wacky conspiracy theories.  The anti vaccine nutjobs are particularly bad.  As for "big pharma" not wanting a cure for cancer?!  Please...  If they can charge a lot of chemotherapy, imagine how much they could charge for a cure.  Steve Jobs is a good example.  He actually had a type of pancreatic cancer that actually had a decent chance at being controlled if you get surgery early.  What did he do?  He tried special diets and "natural" treatments.  He did this for around 9 months and then when it wasn't working he then said oh shit, I better get the surgery.  By then the cancer had spread and he was fucked.  Of course we all know though that "cannabis oil" is the magic cure for cancer.  

They could charge a ton for the cure as they do for the treatments yes, but the cure would be short a short lived financial gain as where the treatments and expensive procedures/drugs are given over the course of many years. Keeping people sick for longer makes more sense for them from a financial stand point. The cancer "business" is one of the biggest in the country and to not even give thought that a corporation on that sort of scale isn't involved in some shady business to make sure there profit margins increase steadily in the face of many morals and ethics would make one very close minded and naïve to the ways of the world.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
I know its easy to say yes given the amount of people affected by this terrible disease, but would it ultimately doom humanity?

Diseases are nature's way of fighting overpopulation of species.

In 2012, there were an estimated 8.2 million deaths around the world from cancer.

Imagine how many extra people would be on the earth in a decade if a cure was found.


Its a difficult subject.

Don't worry about it. There is not likely to be a cure for cancer in general. Some types of cancer can be brought into remission if caught in the early stages. There are many types of cancer, many of them will kill you if you have them.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: mazfit on February 11, 2015, 12:28:28 AM
probably already have the cure, but not in the intrest of big pharma currently.

Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on February 11, 2015, 12:45:55 AM
big pharma doesnt want there to be a cure for cancer.


If that were true, and the cure was being suppressed for profit, one of these giants would have surely approached Steve jobs and given him the cure secretly for the 50 billion or so he was worth....I don't doubt drug companies love money, but there's a lot more money selling a cure, than a patch.
My partner is back getting chemotherapy after 18months in remission, and there isn't a thing we or our families wouldn't give for her to be cure,  and that'd add up to a lot more than they're making on the treatment
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Novena on February 11, 2015, 01:14:36 AM
Quite the generalization perspicacious observation liquid c u n t.
Has the cancer rate escalated greatly since the introduction of recombinant DNA procedures? (1980)
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Automation on February 11, 2015, 01:17:33 AM
I work in big Pharma and I can tell you for a fact, if any of them had a cure, they would release it in a heartbeat. The bonuses for the incumbent CEO, of the company with the cure, would make damn sure it would be released. The stock price would rocket and the company would soon be one of the biggest players in the game (if they weren't already).

These companies think in quarterly earnings, if there is anyway to improve them, they will literally kill their mothers to do it. Holding out on the biggest blockbuster ever..... Only a deluded Hebrew would think that they would do such a thing.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: _bruce_ on February 11, 2015, 02:08:07 AM
If population growth was under control then yes.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: falco on February 11, 2015, 02:09:58 AM
Dr. Tullio Simoncini has done a great job finding easy solutions for cancer. He's wanted by Interpol right now.

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 03:08:22 AM
We keep talking about a cure for cancer like it would be a one stop solution for all forms and variations of the disease.

Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: _aj_ on February 11, 2015, 04:12:08 AM
We are forgetting about the Illuminati, whose stated goal is to cleave the earth's population down to a manageable several million. They would never allow a cure for cancer as that would impact their bottom line.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 11, 2015, 05:41:49 AM
We keep talking about a cure for cancer like it would be a one stop solution for all forms and variations of the disease.


What's this we shit? Read your subject title, pal: "cancer," no s.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 06:01:45 AM
What's this we shit? Read your subject title, pal: "cancer," no s.
Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 11, 2015, 06:34:57 AM
Tough crowd.

Good point, though.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
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Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 11, 2015, 10:57:19 AM
Would it boost the economy, or actually hurt it? The healthcare industry would be massively affected.

You could argue that there would be loss of work, due to less demand in the healthcare field, and more people alive to compete for jobs.

As sick as it sounds, death is big business.




Cancer is big business, don't expect a cure anytime soon.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: DanM on February 11, 2015, 01:04:27 PM
I work in big Pharma and I can tell you for a fact, if any of them had a cure, they would release it in a heartbeat. The bonuses for the incumbent CEO, of the company with the cure, would make damn sure it would be released. The stock price would rocket and the company would soon be one of the biggest players in the game (if they weren't already).

These companies think in quarterly earnings, if there is anyway to improve them, they will literally kill their mothers to do it. Holding out on the biggest blockbuster ever..... Only a deluded Hebrew would think that they would do such a thing.

Why would they want to let their customers "go" so to speak, if a cure were readily available millions of people would no longer have to be dependent on expensive and dangerous drugs/procedures for years on end. Most businesses put profit margin ahead of morals/ethics it's just here we're dealing with peoples health and well being which makes it especially horrendous.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
If you get cancer I certainly hope a cure is never found.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 11, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
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That important, huh?
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 06:05:59 PM
That important, huh?
Nah, I do it to get under people's skin. It has become a joke to me at this point.  :D
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
I just had a thought shizzo....

If they found a cure for cancers, steroid abuse would increase exponentially.

You would have huge ass mass monsters everywhere.

Think about it.

 
Why? Cancer is probably one of the last things a person abusing steroids would worry about.

Heart attack, and organ failure would usually come long before that.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 07:07:46 PM

Actually your right, I made a dumass post there, nevermind. ;D

Having said that if the same amount of people worldwide abused steroids that smoke or drink I bet substantial portion would get shit like prostate cancer etc.


The keyword here is abuse. You can die from water poisoning for crying out loud.

Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 11, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Water intoxication

A potentially life-threatening condition caused by drinking too much water, which leads to hyponatremia and may result in seizures, coma, and death.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Scott on February 11, 2015, 07:17:22 PM
Why? Cancer is probably one of the last things a person abusing steroids would worry about.

Heart attack, and organ failure would usually come long before that.

Cancer is cell growth out of control.  AAS encourages cell growth.  But in all honesty its the users that are really out of control

Worthless sacks of dung.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Scott on February 11, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
Before we ever cure cancer I'm hoping for a cure for...

Ghetto "culture".

cRap music.

Illiterate trash of all colors.

Out of control breeding by LCDs.

Overcrowding of jails.  Mandatory death penalty for murder, rape and parking tickets.

Liberal bullshit.

California liberal bullshit.

Stupid names for babies.

Parents that give stupid names to babies.

"Selfies".  By anyone.

Social media.

Democraps.  Libtard Democraps.

And so much more.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: jr on February 11, 2015, 07:53:20 PM
If you had cancer, would you want a cure?
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: The Ugly on February 11, 2015, 08:26:27 PM
If you had cancer, would you want a cure?

There was a time.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: wes on February 11, 2015, 08:39:14 PM
Didn`t read thread but thread title is retarded.  :(
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: visualizeperfection on February 12, 2015, 01:01:42 AM
The OP is getbigs cancer.




No cure.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: booty on February 12, 2015, 03:48:16 AM
Didn`t read thread but thread title is retarded.  :(
Agreed. Everybody will know someone in their lifetime that gets cancer. Who wouldn't want a cure for cancer. I went to a friends funeral today who died from cancer. She was 43 and left behind 4 children and a husband. Their world has been ripped apart.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 12, 2015, 04:33:19 AM
Agreed. Everybody will know someone in their lifetime that gets cancer. Who wouldn't want a cure for cancer. I went to a friends funeral today who died from cancer. She was 43 and left behind 4 children and a husband. Their world has been ripped apart.
Its a no brainer that society would embrace a cure for cancer. I was referring to the possible economic and environmental issues a cure could pose down the line.

Its ok to think about family and the short term as well.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: 2Thick on February 12, 2015, 11:51:56 AM
Lots of money can be made speculating on the successful AND failed treatments (and possible cures) developed by smaller publicly traded biotech companies. Sometimes if they are on to something great they eventually get bought out by big pharma or bigger biotechs at ridiculous premiums.

It can be quite risky though. Not something to ever bet the ranch on. Lots of due diligence. Long range puts and calls bought at reasonable prices, or perhaps small long stock positions with puts for protection.
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 12, 2015, 11:59:48 AM
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Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: SF1900 on February 12, 2015, 12:02:02 PM
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LMAO!!!
Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: King Shizzo on February 12, 2015, 03:08:51 PM
 
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Title: Re: Would a cure for cancer really be a good thing?
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2015, 06:17:26 PM
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Brilliant!