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http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/
Recent Italian Court Decisions on Vaccines and Autism
by Mary Holland J.D.
Age of Autism
On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan award compensation to a boy for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) A childhood vaccine against six childhood diseases caused the boy’s permanent autism and brain damage.
While the Italian press has devoted considerable attention to this decision and its public health implications, the U.S. press has been silent.
Italy’s National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
Like the U.S., Italy has a national vaccine injury compensation program to give some financial support to those people who are injured by compulsory and recommended vaccinations. The Italian infant plaintiff received three doses of GlaxoSmithKline’s Infanrix Hexa, a hexavalent vaccine administered in the first year of life. These doses occurred from March to October 2006. The vaccine is to protect children from polio, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis B, pertussis and Haemophilus influenza type B. In addition to these antigens, however, the vaccine then contained thimerosal, the mercury-containing preservative, aluminum, an adjuvant, as well as other toxic ingredients. The child regressed into autism shortly after receiving the three doses.
When the parents presented their claim for compensation first to the Ministry of Health, as they were required to do, the Ministry rejected it. Therefore, the family sued the Ministry in a court of general jurisdiction, an option which does not exist in the same form in the U.S.
Court Decision: Mercury and Aluminum in Vaccine Caused Autism
Based on expert medical testimony, the court concluded that the child more likely than not suffered autism and brain damage because of the neurotoxic mercury, aluminum and his particular susceptibility from a genetic mutation. The Court also noted that Infanrix Hexa contained thimerosal, now banned in Italy because of its neurotoxicity, “in concentrations greatly exceeding the maximum recommended levels for infants weighing only a few kilograms.”
Presiding Judge Nicola Di Leo considered another piece of damning evidence: a 1271-page confidential GlaxoSmithKline report (now available on the Internet). This industry document provided ample evidence of adverse events from the vaccine, including five known cases of autism resulting from the vaccine’s administration during its clinical trials (see table at page 626, excerpt below).
Italian Government, Not Vaccine Maker, Pays for Vaccine Damages
As in many other developed countries, government, not industry, compensates families in the event of vaccine injury. Thus GSK’s apparent lack of concern for the vaccine’s adverse effects is notable and perhaps not surprising.
In the final assessment, the report states that:
“[t]he benefit/risk profile of Infanrix hexa continues to be favourable,” despite GSK’s acknowledgement that the vaccine causes side effects including “anaemia haemolytic autoimmune,thrombocytopenia, thrombocytopenic purpura, autoimmune thrombocytopenia, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, haemolytic anemia, cyanosis, injection site nodule, abcess and injection site abscess, Kawasaki’s disease, important neurological events (including encephalitis and encephalopathy), Henoch-Schonlein purpura, petechiae, purpura, haematochezia, allergic reactions (including anaphylactic and anaphylactoid reactions),” and death (see page 9).
The Milan decision is sober, informed and well-reasoned. The Ministry of Health has stated that it has appealed the Court’s decision, but that appeal will likely take several years, and its outcome is uncertain.
Rimini: 2012 – Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism
Gavel and Flag of Italy
Two years earlier, on May 23, 2012, Judge Lucio Ardigo of an Italian court in Rimini presided over a similar judgment, finding that a different vaccine, the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine (MMR), had caused a child’s autism. As in the Milan case, the Ministry of Health’s compensation program had denied compensation to the family, yet after a presentation of medical evidence, a court granted compensation. There, too, the Italian press covered the story; the U.S. press did not.
In that case, a 15-month old boy received his MMR vaccine on March 26, 2004. He then immediately developed bowel and eating problems and received an autism diagnosis with cognitive delay within a year. The court found that the boy had “been damaged by irreversible complications due to vaccination (with trivalent MMR).” The decision flew in the face of the conventional mainstream medical wisdom that an MMR-autism link has been “debunked.”
Italian Court Decisions Break New Ground in Debate Over Vaccines and Autism
Both these Italian court decisions break new ground in the roiling debate over vaccines and autism. These courts, like all courts, are intended to function as impartial, unbiased decision makers.
The courts’ decisions are striking because they not only find a vaccine-autism causal link, but they also overrule the decisions of Italy’s Ministry of Health. And taken together, the court decisions found that both the MMR and a hexavalent thimerosal- and aluminum-containing vaccine can trigger autism.
Italian Court Rulings Contradict Special U.S. Vaccine Court
These court decisions flatly contradict the decisions from the so-called U.S. vaccine court, the Court of Federal Claim’s Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. There, from 2007 to 2010, in the Omnibus Autism Proceeding, three decision makers, called Special Masters, found that vaccines did not cause autism in any of the six test cases, and one Special Master even went so far as to compare the theory of vaccine-induced autism to Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland.
The Italian court decisions contrast starkly with these U.S. cases based on similar claims.
Read the full story at Age of Autism.
About the Author
Mary Holland is Research Scholar and Director of the Graduate Legal Skills Program at NYU Law School. She has published articles on vaccine law and policy, and is the co-editor of Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health and Our Children (Skyhorse Publishing, 2012).
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The ancient Hebrews were the first blackouts. Fact.
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If MMR caused autism then every child, including myself would have autism. This is not the case. Many other factors involved thst have little to do with the vaccine.
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Yeah. Let's ignore all scientific findings in regard to vaccines and jump on the Jenny McCarthy bandwagon. :-\
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If MMR caused autism then every child, including myself would have autism. This is not the case. Many other factors involved thst have little to do with the vaccine.
It can cause. Not it does cause. I understand that. It's a possible side effect of certain vaccines. And since this is the case, it should be sold.
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If MMR caused autism then every child, including myself would have autism. This is not the case. Many other factors involved thst have little to do with the vaccine.
Yep. the anti-vaccine loons keep grasping at straws to justify a position completely at odds with a mountain of scientific evidence to the contrary. Hmm, who should I believe? The scientific community or Jenny McCarthy?
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Yeah. Let's ignore all scientific findings in regard to vaccines and jump on the Jenny McCarthy bandwagon. :-\
Go fuck yourself chimp. Those scientific findings are made by Big Pharma Docs and Scientists with money to be made. Piss off moron.
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If any of youz tink da outism ain't caused by da baskanations, git the fuvk outta hea !!
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Go fuck yourself chimp. Those scientific findings are made by Big Pharma docs with money to made piss off moron.
So much hostility, these days. Tin-foil hat on too tight?
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Yep. the anti-vaccine loons keep grasping at straws to justify a position completely at odds with a mountain of scientific evidence to the contrary. Hmm, who should I believe? The scientific community or Jenny McCarthy?
Why are you dipshits bringing up Jenny McCarthy? Don't answer. You're trying to trivialize this with a seemingly dizty woman that champions this cause vs. what you would like to believe legit scientists or doctors with no bone in the fight. Well, you're full of shit. Keep living in la-la land and getting your shots. I'm good.
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So much hostility, these days. Tin-foil hat on too tight?
It's as simple as this: You're a fucking idiot that believes he's smarter than he is. You're an uninformed indoctrinated moron. That's my final answer. Anything else? It doesn't matter what you and your other shill or moron groupies believe. Rulings like this will become the norm outside of the U.S. and people within the U.S. will continue to refuse these poisons.
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Same italians that worship a Virgin that had a baby
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Health impact news is an alternative health website that ignores all current data and research.
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It can cause. Not it does cause. I understand that. It's a possible side effect of certain vaccines. And since this is the case, it should be sold.
It's impossible to establish a direct cause and effect. The most you can say is there is a correlation. There is no evidence to suggest that there is a direct causal link between vaccines and autism.
The evidence speaks for itself.
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Health impact news is an alternative health website that ignores all current data and research.
What does that have to do with an Italian Court ruling? Absolutely nothing.
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It does not need to imply that the scientific research is behind the court decision.
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If MMR caused autism then every child, including myself would have autism. This is not the case. Many other factors involved thst have little to do with the vaccine.
But every person that smokes doesn't get lung cancer. But it's obvious smoking is a major factor to many that get lung cancer. Many US doctors don't vaccinate their own kids. And in Israel, autism numbers are much lower than other countries because many of them don't vaccinate.
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It's impossible to establish a direct cause and effect. The most you can say is there is a correlation. There is no evidence to suggest that there is a direct causal link between vaccines and autism.
The evidence speaks for itself.
According to the Italian Court, it caused it. Obviously the U.S. would black this out as Big Pharma has an agenda. Hope to see more rulings like this in the future. Yes, the evidence does speak for itself. Look at rise in autism and the link to vaccinations. Before you people would say theres no link you're crazy. Now it's theres a correlation and that doesn't prove causation. Next it will be some other bullshit.
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It's as simple as this: You're a fucking idiot that believes he's smarter than he is. You're an uninformed indoctrinated moron. That's my final answer. Anything else? It doesn't matter what you and your other shill or moron groupies believe. Rulings like this will become the norm outside of the U.S. and people within the U.S. will continue to refuse these poisons.
I am smart, but, then again, Getbig is chock-a-block with smart people. You should drop all this internet conspiracy nonsense and rejoin us.
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According to the Italian Court, it caused it. Obviously the U.S. would black this out as Big Pharma has an agenda. Hope to see more rulings like this in the future. Yes, the evidence does speak for itself. Look at rise in autism and the link to vaccinations. Before you people would say theres no link you're crazy. Now it's theres a correlation and that doesn't prove causation. Next it will be some other bullshit.
An appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. Court systems are not scientists, so I don't care what they say. If it did cause autism, they need to present the overwhelming evidence. Present it here if you can locate iy.
Second, there are many correlations that exist. It does not mean anything until you can provide a direct causal link, which is not there. And saying it's being covered up by big pharma is not evidence. It's another appeal without sufficient evidence.
Yes because correlation does not prove causation. It's basic statistics 101. I'd even go as far as to say that there is not even a strong correlation between vaccines and autism. Probably a weak correlation, at best.
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Why are you dipshits bringing up Jenny McCarthy? Don't answer. You're trying to trivialize this with a seemingly dizty woman that champions this cause vs. what you would like to believe legit scientists or doctors with no bone in the fight. Well, you're full of shit. Keep living in la-la land and getting your shots. I'm good.
I did get my shots, you moron. So did you when you went to boot camp. Then again, you do seem to be on the autism spectrum, so maybe you have a point.
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But every person that smokes doesn't get lung cancer. But it's obvious smoking is a major factor to many that get lung cancer. Many US doctors don't vaccinate their own kids. And in Israel, autism numbers are much lower than other countries because many of them don't vaccinate.
Yes because we have overwhelming evidence that shows a link between smoking and cancer. Not nearly as much for autism and vaccines.
All you need to so is present the evidence. You could have already "won" the debate by presenting evidence. Your failure to do so will indicate that you have no evidence, and all you have are speculations and hypotheses.
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An appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. Court systems are not scientists, so I don't care what they say. If it did cause autism, they need to present the overwhelming evidence. Present it here if you can locate iy.
Second, there are many correlations that exist. It does not mean anything until you can provide a direct causal link, which is not there. And saying it's being covered up by big pharma is not evidence. It's another appeal without sufficient evidence.
Yes because correlation does not prove causation. It's basic statistics 101. I'd even go as far as to say that there is not even a strong correlation between vaccines and autism. Probably a weak correlation, at best.
I believed it before the courts ruling. I would have believed if the court wouldn't have ruled in favor. Those scientists have an agenda and are being well paid. You nor others have no proof that these vaccines cannot cause autism. You have very large corporations with agendas and tons of money pushing something that has NEVER been proven to work (not all vaccines, I talking specific ones). I don't need hard proof. I'm an excellent critical thinker. The human species has survived a long time without these "vaccines" and don't need them now. Especially considering that their poisons. Big Pharma will do whatever it takes to ensure no one knows the facts because their survival depends on it.
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I did get my shots, you moron. So did you when you went to boot camp. Then again, you do seem to be on the autism spectrum, so maybe you have a point.
Haha. ;D Dooba-dabba-deeba, DERP!
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I believed it before the courts ruling. I would have believed if the court wouldn't have ruled in favor. Those scientists have an agenda and are being well paid. You nor others have no proof that these vaccines cannot cause autism. You have very large corporations with agendas and tons of money pushing something that has NEVER been proven to work (not all vaccines, I talking specific ones). I don't need hard proof. I'm an excellent critical thinker. The human species has survived a long time without these "vaccines" and don't need them now. Especially considering that their poisons. Big Pharma will do whatever it takes to ensure no one knows the facts because their survival depends on it.
The Italian kid was immunized at 15 months. The symptoms of autism don't appear until 18-24 months. This kid would have been autistic regardless of the immunizations he received.
Most parents of ASD children suspect that something is wrong by the time the child is 18 months old and seek help by the time the child is age 2. Children with ASD typically have problems in:
Pretend play
Social interactions
Verbal and nonverbal communication
Some children seem normal before age 1 or 2 and then suddenly regress and lose language or social skills they had previously gained.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001526.htm (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001526.htm)
#ignorefactsthatchallengemyopinions
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I believed it before the courts ruling. I would have believed if the court wouldn't have ruled in favor. Those scientists have an agenda and are being well paid. You nor others have no proof that these vaccines cannot cause autism. You have very large corporations with agendas and tons of money pushing something that has NEVER been proven to work (not all vaccines, I talking specific ones). I don't need hard proof. I'm an excellent critical thinker. The human species has survived a long time without these "vaccines" and don't need them now. Especially considering that their poisons. Big Pharma will do whatever it takes to ensure no one knows the facts because their survival depends on it.
I don have to prove they don't cause autism. You never have to prove a negative. since you're making the claim that vaccinations cause autism you have to provide the evidence, not me. It's the way it works.
I don't care about your critical thinking skills. I care about evidence.
We will have to agree to disagree.
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If MMR caused autism then every child, including myself would have autism. This is not the case. Many other factors involved thst have little to do with the vaccine.
it causes damage to some extent in everyone
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Ummmm let me think about it... These numbers of the infected times about 3 due to the population increase over the last century...
Ya I'll take the after vaccine numbers
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Ha ha, this Romanian guy, he is king of the gypsies. Top cocalari style!
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I'm an excellent critical thinker.
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Go fuck yourself chimp. Those scientific findings are made by Big Pharma Docs and Scientists with money to be made. Piss off moron.
oh, let me guess those scientists would be white guys ;D
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I figured the recent measles outbreak would have silenced the anti-vaxxers.... guess not
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http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/
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5 infants at a day care in Chicago diagnosed with measles. All these disease are making a rampant come back.
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http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/
Brilliant post.😉
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5 infants at a day care in Chicago diagnosed with measles. All these disease are making a rampant come back.
It's up to 123 in California, and this was a disease that was largely considered to have been eradicated within the US fifteen years ago.
Vaccines work so well we take them for granted, so morons begin to think that it's a giant conspiracy and that they aren't necessary. I'd say this recent outbreak serves the antivaxxers right, but unfortunately it's the kids that have to suffer for their parents' idiocy.
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"Blackout". Must every single thing in the Universe (including space which also BLACK) be Black?
As for this discovery on Autism? Like I would trust the people that make Fiats. I predict you will not make it through nursing school because of your delusional ways.
I was kind but if you insist, go there kiddo.
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Well that solves some of the population problem for the time being.
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I don have to prove they don't cause autism. You never have to prove a negative. since you're making the claim that vaccinations cause autism you have to provide the evidence, not me. It's the way it works.
I don't care about your critical thinking skills. I care about evidence.
We will have to agree to disagree.
Don't worry, WNig is an excellent critical thinker.
Oh that's fucking rich.
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I'd rather deal with a few retards than have a whole generation wiped out by measils, gotta take the good with the bad wiggington
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Jenny McCarthy thinks vaccines are a bad decision, but marrying Donny Wahlberg is a good decision.
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Italian Government, Not Vaccine Maker, Pays for Vaccine Damages
What a nice scam - Vaccine kills a KID, the PEOPLE OF ITALY pay for the compensation to the family. Win Win.
And who put that into law? ::)
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I guess Dr Oz's wife is validated. No vaccines for their kids!
Meanwhile Dr Oz tells you to vaccinate YOURS...