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Title: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2015, 09:25:13 AM
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Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: _aj_ on February 17, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
It is the wail of the perpetually entitled. The whole family has been given everything for generations. They actually believe that it is their right to steal what they want from others. Mental illness.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 09:28:09 AM
Victim mentality. 
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2015, 09:37:16 AM
generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: liberty on February 17, 2015, 09:40:49 AM
Don't forget 'Generation Phone'      ::)
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: _aj_ on February 17, 2015, 09:41:44 AM
I blame "whatsapp"
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
Look at the top names in sports and entertainment...

DLB?  Selfies and "natty".
Phil Heath?  Louis Voutton bag and calling out haters while benching 5 "plates" on Hammer Strength.
NFL?  Um, crotch grabbing Beastmode was a bad call away from Super Bowl MVP.
NBA?  A bunch of 6'8" dudes wearing spandex suits and empty glasses.
Hollywood?  Bradley Cooper is the #1 Obamacare lobbyist for DC in hollywood, and gets rewarded with Sniper movie.

it's crap.  It's all crap.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 09:42:41 AM
generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.


The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
In before LittleJ cries foul
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Parker on February 17, 2015, 09:47:26 AM
The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.
I believe it can be both.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 09:49:39 AM
I believe it can be both.

It can be but the mistake most people make is they don't make the determination on an individual basis.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2015, 09:51:17 AM
The mentality is mainly a product of the left. It's the left that popularized the concept of institutional entities or external circumstances being responsible for peoples actions.  It's the left who dismiss bad behavior by rationalizing the cause is external as opposed to a moral failing of the individual.

I dunno... Repub politicans have called for torture and nukes in the past 24 hours.   Are they really in touch?
Repubs in congress wear diapers with hoookers and toe-tap in mens rooms, they're not ousted either.
And the whole "blame obama for everything, consider him an illegal, but still not supporting impeachment" by many in the right shows they don't want to enforce the consitution they're defending.
Toss in the lifetime liberal RINO candidates that "repubs" support, no matter how different their beliefs are...

Well, it's EASY to blame the left, it's EASY to say obama is wrecking america, but we'd have had generation selfie under Bush if everyone had an iPhone back then.  

If it makes things more comfy for you, please, keep blaming the left.  But it's way bigger than blaming democrats.  it's society in general.  If repubs allow diaper-wearing, hooker banging senator vitter to say in office - how in the world can you not include them in the moral bankruptcy?   Epic double standard, man.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
I dunno... Repub politicans have called for torture and nukes in the past 24 hours.   Are they really in touch?
Repubs in congress wear diapers with hoookers and toe-tap in mens rooms, they're not ousted either.
And the whole "blame obama for everything, consider him an illegal, but still not supporting impeachment" by many in the right shows they don't want to enforce the consitution they're defending.
Toss in the lifetime liberal RINO candidates that "repubs" support, no matter how different their beliefs are...

Well, it's EASY to blame the left, it's EASY to say obama is wrecking america, but we'd have had generation selfie under Bush if everyone had an iPhone back then.  

If it makes things more comfy for you, please, keep blaming the left.  But it's way bigger than blaming democrats.  it's society in general.  If repubs allow diaper-wearing, hooker banging senator vitter to say in office - how in the world can you not include them in the moral bankruptcy?   Epic double standard, man.

I'm not blaming the left anymore than they need to be.  The victim mentality is a product of leftist thinking from Rousseau through the sixties and to the present.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
I'm not blaming the left anymore than they need to be.  The victim mentality is a product of leftist thinking from Rousseau through the sixties and to the present.

i can agree there - in that case, repubs have adopted this entitled mentality too.  OTHERWISE, they would be DEMOLISHING the dems right now.  Turns out, they are too lazy/self-involved/hypocritical angry to change a thing.  Obama COULD be impeached now that repubs have both houses... they don't want it :(
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
i can agree there - in that case, repubs have adopted this entitled mentality too.  OTHERWISE, they would be DEMOLISHING the dems right now.  Turns out, they are too lazy/self-involved/hypocritical angry to change a thing.  Obama COULD be impeached now that repubs have both houses... they don't want it :(


Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2015, 10:05:05 AM

Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 

i would argue that many on the left, and the right, have adopted this victim mentality.

my only problem is just people saying "it's obama's fault" and "the left..." when it's way bigger than that.  Repubs have also turned into these hypocritical whiny bitches.  They refuse to impeach obama - but they say he was born in jenya and not a legit president.  Already, that tells me "i only agree with SOME parts of the constitution".    AND refusing to oust a senator that wore diapers and banged hookers for years?  WTF is that?   If you don't condemn it, you're part of it.   IMO, both parties are generation selfie, both are shady idiots, selfish and weak.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
i would argue that many on the left, and the right, have adopted this victim mentality.

my only problem is just people saying "it's obama's fault" and "the left..." when it's way bigger than that.  Repubs have also turned into these hypocritical whiny bitches.  They refuse to impeach obama - but they say he was born in jenya and not a legit president.  Already, that tells me "i only agree with SOME parts of the constitution".    AND refusing to oust a senator that wore diapers and banged hookers for years?  WTF is that?   If you don't condemn it, you're part of it.   IMO, both parties are generation selfie, both are shady idiots, selfish and weak.

Some on the right have adopted the victim mentality as a reaction to seeing others on the left successfully using victim-hood. However, their success is limited or even nonexistent as they are not part of the accepted protected victim class.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Man of Steel on February 17, 2015, 10:18:50 AM
I think it's fairly simple.   A family lost a family member and they're grieving and upset.   People can be irrational in these moments.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2015, 10:31:02 AM
I think it's fairly simple.   A family lost a family member and they're grieving and upset.   People can be irrational in these moments.

I agree with this to an extent. But chances are most who do crimes like this are repeat offenders. At some point there should be some rational thought that hey "if I keep doing this eventually I'm Going to get my head blown off"!
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 17, 2015, 10:41:33 AM

Consider Marxism, the basis for much of how the left view the world.  Marxism is based almost entirely on the premise of exploitation and suppression of the people by elite groups. When you understand Marxism you understand how the mentality of victim-hood became pervasive through all aspects of leftist ideology from economics to sociology. 

yes so is it "leftist marxism" when the banks get bailed out by the taxpayer or perhaps that is that the free market at work? Just trying to understand the terminology here.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Man of Steel on February 17, 2015, 10:58:44 AM
I agree with this to an extent. But chances are most who do crimes like this are repeat offenders. At some point there should be some rational thought that hey "if I keep doing this eventually I'm Going to get my head blown off"!

I think that is correct, but I don't think the parents, spouse, siblings, etc...that lost the person that committed the crime would feel that way.  Certainly some would be that rational yet still grieve, but I don't think that attitude represents the majority.

I've seen videos of parents begging and pleading for their son or daughter that just murdered a person or group of people to be shown mercy and charity when a penalty of death loomed in their immediate future.  The notion of justice goes out the window in times of grief and loss....most of us tend to become selfish and irrational if the lives of those we love are threatened (often regardless of the justification for the threat).   

That behavior is irrational (and entertaining for the masses) so it makes headlines.

Do I think that the kid that committed the armed robbery should've been shot to death?  No. 
Do I understand why someone felt they should gun down this armed kid who pointed his gun at the heads of other people?  Yes.
How would I have responded if in the situation?  Don't know.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Chacka on February 17, 2015, 11:01:38 AM
Er'body wanna be thuggen, no body wanna get clapped y'all
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Natural Man on February 17, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
I think that is correct, but I don't think the parents, spouse, siblings, etc...that lost the person that committed the crime would feel that way.  Certainly some would be that rational yet still grieve, but I don't think that attitude represents the majority.

I've seen videos of parents begging and pleading for their son or daughter that just murdered a person or group of people to be shown mercy and charity when a penalty of death loomed in their immediate future.  The notion of justice goes out the window in times of grief and loss....most of us tend to become selfish and irrational if the lives of those we love are threatened (often regardless of the justification for the threat).  

That behavior is irrational (and entertaining for the masses) so it makes headlines.

Do I think that the kid that committed the armed robbery should've been shot to death?  No.  
Do I understand why someone felt they should gun down this armed kid who pointed his gun at the heads of other people?  Yes.
How would I have responded if in the situation?
Don't know.

Fixed.


My parents punished me heavily when i was 5 and purposedly stole a toy from another kid. Never stole anything again. His family probably did nothing, excused him or worse, encouraged him to steal one way or another.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: thebrink on February 17, 2015, 11:46:43 AM
generation selfie.  generation entitlement. 

It isn't one party, one race, one socioeconomic level, or anything else.

it's the entire generation of instant satisfaction, buy-on-credit, sue at the drop of a hat, expect handouts, etc.  Technology and in particular, social media, has turned everything into a series of likes = approval.  Men used to have to go chop down a tree if they wanted satisfaction.  Now they post a selfie and count the likes.  Women used to get a degree and stay in shape for the win... now they can post a cleavage selfie on FB on a Monday night and they get 225 likes in two hours. 

we have to stop blaming a race, a party, or anything like that... it's bigger than that.  It's the mindset of society in general.


X10000!
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 12:15:05 PM
yes so is it "leftist marxism" when the banks get bailed out by the taxpayer or perhaps that is that the free market at work? Just trying to understand the terminology here.

What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?  
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2015, 12:15:24 PM
Obama voters - end of story
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: _aj_ on February 17, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
Obama voters - end of story

Point of clarification: Obama supporters. They haven't yet figured out how to register to vote, thank fuck.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 17, 2015, 11:24:16 PM
What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?  

I'm trying to understand what you're going on about. 

I gather you're making a point about accountability 

as usual facts don't concern you
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
I'm trying to understand what you're going on about. 

I gather you're making a point about accountability 

as usual facts don't concern you

Youre going off on a tangent.  As for facts, its funny a conspiracy theorist of your repute would question  someone else on facts. Now whose gimmick are you?
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: LittleJ on February 17, 2015, 11:50:19 PM
In before LittleJ cries foul

Negative
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 17, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
Negative

Positive like your autoimmune liver disease panel.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Radical Plato on February 17, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
I think it's fairly simple.   A family lost a family member and they're grieving and upset.   People can be irrational in these moments.
The armed robber who the customer shot didn't die, so they didn't lose anyone.  The Mother seems to lack any self awareness, she said the customer who shot her thug son should have minded his own business because it is wrong to shoot people.  Never mind her son was threatening to shoot others during his criminal activity.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Quickerblade on February 18, 2015, 12:11:21 AM
Look at the top names in sports and entertainment...

DLB?  Selfies and "natty".
Phil Heath?  Louis Voutton bag and calling out haters while benching 5 "plates" on Hammer Strength.
NFL?  Um, crotch grabbing Beastmode was a bad call away from Super Bowl MVP.
NBA?  A bunch of 6'8" dudes wearing spandex suits and empty glasses.
Hollywood?  Bradley Cooper is the #1 Obamacare lobbyist for DC in hollywood, and gets rewarded with Sniper movie.

it's crap.  It's all crap.

Lebron, Wade, Durant and Westbrook.

Great post my friend.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 18, 2015, 12:57:11 AM
Youre going off on a tangent.  As for facts, its funny a conspiracy theorist of your repute would question  someone else on facts. Now whose gimmick are you?

carry on with your points about marxism and responsibility then...yes very interesting concepts completely divorced from the real world.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 18, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
carry on with your points about marxism and responsibility then...yes very interesting concepts completely divorced from the real world.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's divorced from reality.  Judging from your previous posts divorced from reality seems to be your normal state of mind.  Knowing this I'm going to take your comment about being divorced from reality is a compliment. Whose gimmick are you?  Are you one of the baby bunch?   
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 18, 2015, 06:38:38 AM
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's divorced from reality.  Judging from your previous posts divorced from reality seems to be your normal state of mind.  Knowing this I'm going to take your comment about being divorced from reality is a compliment. Whose gimmick are you?  Are you one of the baby bunch?   

you failed to come to grips with the world around you

constructing bizarre fairy tales to explain simple phenomena is a sign of mental illness!

 :o
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: LittleJ on February 18, 2015, 07:25:35 AM
Yes, he's a very mentally unstable man. I'm afraid he might harm himself or other getbiggers.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 18, 2015, 07:41:32 AM
Yes, he's a very mentally unstable man. I'm afraid he might harm himself or other getbiggers.

this fellow's mind is riddled with paranoia
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: Archer77 on February 18, 2015, 07:45:59 AM
Yes, he's a very mentally unstable man. I'm afraid he might harm himself or other getbiggers.

Why would I bother harming you.  You're a dead man walking. God wants you to suffer not me.  He killed your dick for god sake.  I guess that explains why you cry so much.  Your test levels are so low your balls and dick and shriveled into a vagina.
you failed to come to grips with the world around you

constructing bizarre fairy tales to explain simple phenomena is a sign of mental illness!

 :o

You're  mistaking me for you.  Mr Conspiracy   You obviously have no knowledge of the origin of identity politics in the sixties.  Yet you will go on endlessly about hands up don't shoot.
Title: Re: Someone explain the thought process behind this
Post by: mr.turbo on February 18, 2015, 08:49:22 PM
Why would I bother harming you.  You're a dead man walking. God wants you to suffer not me.  He killed your dick for god sake.  I guess that explains why you cry so much.  Your test levels are so low your balls and dick and shriveled into a vagina.
You're  mistaking me for you.  Mr Conspiracy   You obviously have no knowledge of the origin of identity politics in the sixties.  Yet you will go on endlessly about hands up don't shoot.

try using your eyeballs to make observations.  Where do you get this material? I believe there is hope for you but it's way past time to start questioning your sources.