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Title: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Army of One on March 03, 2015, 06:09:02 PM
Thoughts?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2565946/Super-ripped-Ray-Quinn-loses-two-stone-two-months-carb-tapering-Caveman-diet-FIVE-work-outs-week.html
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 03, 2015, 06:29:35 PM
200lbs at 20% is 160 lean body mass. Add 8% you get ~172.

28lbs in 2 months?

Doesn't seem impossible.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: V Man on March 03, 2015, 06:30:55 PM
Well the diet he was following was not Keto.

Ray's diet now

Breakfast: Bowl of porridge. Protein shake after work-out with one spoon of peanut butter

Snack: 3-4 fruitsand handful of almonds

Lunch: Steak, green salad and cous cous

Snack: dried meat biltong

Dinner at 6pm: Lean turkey breast, sweet potato, green veg. Protein shake at 8pm
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: el numero uno on March 03, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
200lbs at 20% is 160 lean body mass. Add 8% you get ~172.

28lbs in 2 months?

Doesn't seem impossible.

x2

A couple of years ago I lost 25 lbs in 9 weeks with keto.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 03, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
Make sure you consume a phyllium husk drink twice a day and wear lots of deodorant.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Army of One on March 03, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
x2

A couple of years ago I lost 25 lbs in 9 weeks with keto.

any cardio?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: el numero uno on March 03, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
any cardio?

Yep, I went jogging 3-4 four times a week, one hour each "session".
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 07:42:27 PM
Not only possible, it's probable. Thing is this guy didn't do it. It's a British tabloid, and a lot of their "articles" are just not so well disguised advertisements. In this case for worthless "fat burning" pills.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 07:46:41 PM
Keto is for morons who are too stupid to eat 2000 calories.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Rammstein on March 03, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
Keto is for morons who are too stupid to eat 2000 calories.

If one decides to fill the 2000 cals with 60-70% fat and 30-40% protein and negligible carbs because one enjoys the foods making up that macro ratio, doesn't that fulfill the Adonis principles?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 07:55:45 PM
If one decides to fill the 2000 cals with 60-70% fat and 30-40% protein and negligible carbs because one enjoys the foods making up that macro ratio, doesn't that fulfill the Adonis principles?

"Adonis principles?" He only eats 2000 calories. That's why he can't Get Big!
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 08:03:59 PM
If one decides to fill the 2000 cals with 60-70% fat and 30-40% protein and negligible carbs because one enjoys the foods making up that macro ratio, doesn't that fulfill the Adonis principles?
Sure, but they can also be called morons because they are making a concerted effort to be stupid.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
Sure, but they can also be called morons because they are making a concerted effort to be stupid.

Nope! Morons are mentally incapable of a concerted effort to do anything. Such as, not being able to make a concerted effort to Get Big, because they can't understand about eating enough of the right foods, fats and proteins, to Get Big.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 08:35:03 PM
Nope! Morons are mentally incapable of a concerted effort to do anything. Such as, not being able to make a concerted effort to Get Big, because they can't understand about eating enough of the right foods, fats and proteins, to Get Big.
http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/keto-gluten-free-challenge-results/
Keto, Gluten-Free Challenge Results
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/chris-corbin-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jeannie-proter-before-after-keto-1-.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jocelyn-smith-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/joel-bradley-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sarah-elston-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tj-brown-before-after-keto-1.png)
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/keto-gluten-free-challenge-results/
Keto, Gluten-Free Challenge Results
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/chris-corbin-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jeannie-proter-before-after-keto-1-.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jocelyn-smith-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/joel-bradley-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sarah-elston-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tj-brown-before-after-keto-1.png)

Which one is you?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YTtJF.jpg)Ketogenic Diet,
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YTtJF.jpg)Ketogenic Diet,

So that's you?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 08:40:43 PM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/2months.jpg)Dave Palumbo Diet - Bodybuilding Keto Diet
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
(http://www.erickstevens.net/2months.jpg)Dave Palumbo Diet - Bodybuilding Keto Diet

So which one is you? Apparently, you're having a personality crisis.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 03, 2015, 08:44:34 PM
http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/keto-gluten-free-challenge-results/
Keto, Gluten-Free Challenge Results
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/chris-corbin-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jeannie-proter-before-after-keto-1-.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jocelyn-smith-before-after-keto-1.png)

(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/joel-bradley-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sarah-elston-before-after-keto-1.png)
(http://www.improvementwarriorfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tj-brown-before-after-keto-1.png)

For 30 days, thats not bad for fat people
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 03, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7s0Nf.jpg)Keto Before and After Year Long Progress.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 03, 2015, 08:47:27 PM
Keto is for morons who are too stupid to eat 2000 calories.

You're like 6' 165. Lol.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
So why would you refer to yourself as The True Adonis? That can't even be close to your real description.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 03, 2015, 08:50:01 PM
So why would you refer to yourself as The True Adonis? That can't even be close to your real description.

He turns sideways and disappears. He has to run around in the shower just to get wet. Lol
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Erik C on March 03, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
He turns sideways and disappears. He has to run around in the shower just to get wet. Lol

I'm not surprised. His sniveling comments scream: gigantic inferiority complex.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: ritch on March 04, 2015, 01:11:31 AM
those before's and after's all look the same. To actually post that thinking it helps your case is just weird.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Sophus on March 04, 2015, 02:03:32 AM
Keto sucks for fatloss,performance and gaining muscle, just accept it.

Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: heenok on March 04, 2015, 02:06:51 AM
I went from 17% to 8% in 12 weeks with a low carb diet, weightlifting, light cardio and gear.
No need for the keto gimmick just gradually drop your carbs and calories and proportionally increase your drugs and cardio.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Sophus on March 04, 2015, 02:10:23 AM
I went from 17% to 8% in 12 weeks with a low carb diet, weightlifting, light cardio and gear.
No need for the keto gimmick just gradually drop your carbs and calories and proportionally increase your drugs and cardio.

Exactly, the only idiots who think that something like high fat/low carb can work longtime are people on gear.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 04, 2015, 05:48:19 AM
Exactly, the only idiots who think that something like high fat/low carb can work longtime are people on gear.

The anabolic diet was used by alot of bbrs to look good without drugs
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 04, 2015, 05:54:54 AM
Exactly, the only idiots who think that something like high fat/low carb can work longtime are people on gear.

The reason these idiots don't lose weight on a Keto diet is because they've bought in to the absurd idea that calories don't matter. So, they just replace the carbs they were eating with fat and as a result never get into a caloric deficit.

The average American is eating ~3700 calories. Am I to believe, at this level, these people aren't getting enough fat?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: blacken700 on March 04, 2015, 06:04:58 AM
He turns sideways and disappears. He has to run around in the shower just to get wet. Lol

 :D
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 04, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
The reason these idiots don't lose weight on a Keto diet is because they've bought in to the absurd idea that calories don't matter. So, they just replace the carbs they were eating with fat and as a result never get into a caloric deficit.

The average American is eating ~3700 calories. Am I to believe, at this level, these people aren't getting enough fat?

I do agree that calories do count, my diet has been hi fat mod protein for a month now and i did tighten up ALOT while not counting cals and definitely going above maintenence. While i am not sure this is FAT loss, i do think anabolic lifestyle/diet makes sense. Im gonna give it another 8 weeks but this time do HIIT with maintence cals around 3000 and see what happens
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Sophus on March 04, 2015, 07:55:37 AM
The anabolic diet was used by alot of bbrs to look good without drugs

Contradictio in adiecto

Unintentional oxymoron

Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: MAXX on March 04, 2015, 08:07:04 AM
Keto is an effective diet for short term weight loss. Protein intake is kept high which means minimal muscle loss during diet. Only problem with keto is you can't train too heavy because injury risk is higher without glycogen in the muscle. I don't go total keto I keep higher carbs on lifting days. two meals before workout will be higher in carbs. Rest no carbs.

Adonis diet is nonsense because he ignores his protein intake is lacking due to filling his 2000cals with carbs and fats. He says protein intake for natty lifter is low, like 120 grams which is ofcourse total fucking bullshit.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Rammstein on March 04, 2015, 08:16:03 AM
This guy seems to be doing quite well on keto for the last 14 years:

https://instagram.com/darthluiggi/

http://www.reddit.com/r/ketogains/comments/1z9jv1/the_tkd_experiment/

Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 04, 2015, 08:33:59 AM
Keto is an effective diet for short term weight loss. Protein intake is kept high which means minimal muscle loss during diet. Only problem with keto is you can't train too heavy because injury risk is higher without glycogen in the muscle. I don't go total keto I keep higher carbs on lifting days. two meals before workout will be higher in carbs. Rest no carbs.

Adonis diet is nonsense because he ignores his protein intake is lacking due to filling his 2000cals with carbs and fats. He says protein intake for natty lifter is low, like 120 grams which is ofcourse total fucking bullshit.

Real low carb means fats are kept hi, mod protein, low carb. Hi protein and hi fat is a no no
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: MAXX on March 04, 2015, 08:37:11 AM
Real low carb means fats are kept hi, mod protein, low carb. Hi protein and hi fat is a no no
::) says who, your mom?
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Go 4 It on March 04, 2015, 08:59:38 AM
8 weeks on Keto ..before and after It wasn't a drop from 20% to 8% but good transformation.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2015, 09:02:26 AM
8 weeks on Keto ..before and after It wasn't a drop from 20% to 8% but good transformation.
you did a good job retaining as much muscle possible,going in lean already helped,,and it aso shows even though you look good and lean before the contest stage 'look'is 100 pct different..great job ..
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Go 4 It on March 04, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
you did a good job retaining as much muscle possible,going in lean already helped,,and it aso shows even though you look good and lean before the contest stage 'look'is 100 pct different..great job ..
thanks man, yeah im not a gung ho keto guy, but the diet is effective.
Title: Re: 20% to 8% in 2 months possible with keto?
Post by: Thong Maniac on March 04, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
::) says who, your mom?

Says research about glucogenesis