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Title: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 14, 2015, 06:35:01 AM
The New York Times has just busted Jeb Bush for not turning over the emails from his private account immediately after leaving office... but instead waiting a very, very long time to do so.

It was so long, in fact, that he was clearly in violation of Florida law!


Jeb Bush has rebuked Hillary Rodham Clinton for her use of a private email account as secretary of state, holding up his own conduct as an example of transparency in government.

But it took Mr. Bush seven years after leaving office to comply fully with a Florida public records statute requiring him to turn over emails he sent and received as governor, according to records released Friday.


Damn. And the media was just criticizing Hillary for taking four months to turn over all her emails after the State Department's request!


Mr. Bush delivered the latest batch of 25,000 emails in May 2014, seven and a half years after leaving the Statehouse and just as he started to contemplate a potential run for the White House, according to a newly disclosed letter written by his lawyer.

A Florida statute governing the preservation of public records requires elected officials, including the governor, to turn over records pertaining to official business “at the expiration of his or her term of office.”

“If they’ve been adding to it, it’s a technical violation of the law,” said Barbara A. Petersen, president of the First Amendment Foundation, a nonprofit, nonpartisan group in Florida that advocates access to government information.


She added, “The law clearly says you’re supposed to turn everything over at the end of your term in office.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/14/us/jeb-bush-a-clinton-critic-took-time-releasing-his-own-emails.html?_r=0
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 14, 2015, 06:53:16 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 14, 2015, 06:58:25 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?

I don't think so I suspect they're be the front runners 
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 14, 2015, 07:02:13 AM
I don't think so I suspect they're be the front runners 

 :'( You ruined my day
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: 240 is Back on March 14, 2015, 09:31:36 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?

thatd rock.

cue anyone that says one is okay because blah blah blah.

Romney did this too - his crew bought the email servers in a self-auction to avoid public record.  shocking.  wasn't a big deal then, right?

fck em all.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 14, 2015, 09:32:43 AM
thatd rock.

cue anyone that says one is okay because blah blah blah.

Romney did this too - his crew bought the email servers in a self-auction to avoid public record.  shocking.  wasn't a big deal then, right?

fck em all.


I'm afraid a Hilary/Jeb race is inevitable.  They both seem to have locked up the big donors.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 15, 2015, 07:11:51 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?



They lock them in a room with only a laptop each and their email password has been changed.  First one to figure out the new password gets the win.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 15, 2015, 08:39:37 AM


They lock them in a room with only a laptop each and their email password has been changed.  First one to figure out the new password gets the win.


I smell a new reality/game show.  Political Password. 
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2015, 09:15:09 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?

We can only hope
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 09:29:40 AM
Yes! Maybe this will force both Jeb  and Hilary out of the race.  Do they cancel each other out? How does this work?

lol they better not the repubs won't have anybody left to run


Some of Mrs. Clinton’s potential GOP rivals for the presidency in 2016, operating under state law, wrestled with similar issues.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a likely Republican presidential candidate, primarily used a personal email account on his own computer server when he was in office from 1999 to 2007. In December, he posted online hundreds of thousands of emails from both the private and government accounts. Mr. Bush’s spokeswoman said that emails from the private account unrelated to government business weren’t turned over to the state or preserved.

(snip)

But much like with Mrs. Clinton, the decision over which emails should be considered official and which remain private was made by Mr. Bush. It is unclear how many emails Mr. Bush withheld because he deemed them unrelated to state business.

“He did exactly what Hillary did,” said Barbara Petersen, president of the First Amendment Foundation, a Florida-based government watchdog group. In turning over emails from his private account, she said, Mr. Bush and his staff “went through those emails and decided what were public-record emails and what wasn’t.”

(snip)

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who is also considering a White House bid, used a private account to send emails to reporters in 2008 when he was a leader in the Florida House. When the Orlando Sentinel filed a public-records request for the emails from the private account about the legislative session, Mr. Rubio’s spokeswoman said they had been deleted.

The law appears to have left it to Mr. Rubio and his staff to decide which material was significant enough to preserve from his private and government accounts, said Ms. Petersen of the watchdog group.

(snip)

Another likely GOP presidential candidate, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, used a private email account to conduct public business while he was Milwaukee County executive. He relied on private emails to exchange messages with his closest aides, including correspondence on county business.

More..

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-potential-gop-rivals-used-personal-email-accounts-1426205325
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2015, 09:33:20 AM


Right - cause demos got anyone but hitlery


lol they better not the repubs won't have anybody left to run


Some of Mrs. Clinton’s potential GOP rivals for the presidency in 2016, operating under state law, wrestled with similar issues.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a likely Republican presidential candidate, primarily used a personal email account on his own computer server when he was in office from 1999 to 2007. In December, he posted online hundreds of thousands of emails from both the private and government accounts. Mr. Bush’s spokeswoman said that emails from the private account unrelated to government business weren’t turned over to the state or preserved.

(snip)

But much like with Mrs. Clinton, the decision over which emails should be considered official and which remain private was made by Mr. Bush. It is unclear how many emails Mr. Bush withheld because he deemed them unrelated to state business.

“He did exactly what Hillary did,” said Barbara Petersen, president of the First Amendment Foundation, a Florida-based government watchdog group. In turning over emails from his private account, she said, Mr. Bush and his staff “went through those emails and decided what were public-record emails and what wasn’t.”

(snip)

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who is also considering a White House bid, used a private account to send emails to reporters in 2008 when he was a leader in the Florida House. When the Orlando Sentinel filed a public-records request for the emails from the private account about the legislative session, Mr. Rubio’s spokeswoman said they had been deleted.

The law appears to have left it to Mr. Rubio and his staff to decide which material was significant enough to preserve from his private and government accounts, said Ms. Petersen of the watchdog group.

(snip)

Another likely GOP presidential candidate, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, used a private email account to conduct public business while he was Milwaukee County executive. He relied on private emails to exchange messages with his closest aides, including correspondence on county business.

More..

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-potential-gop-rivals-used-personal-email-accounts-1426205325
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Right - cause demos got anyone but hitlery



really that's all they need,right now the repubs have no answer ;)
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 15, 2015, 10:35:29 AM

Right - cause demos got anyone but hitlery



To an extent, that is true.  No one else has expressed interested or garnered any attention as a candidate.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2015, 10:36:02 AM
really that's all they need,right now the repubs have no answer ;)

Lol.   You fng morons are so stupid.  You idiots argue like - oh the big mac is healthier than the whopper!! Coke is better than pepsi!  
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 15, 2015, 10:37:18 AM
Jeb sucks!
Hillary sucks!
Huckelberry sucks!
Etc. 

Its all a scam
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 10:37:53 AM
Lol.   You fng morons are so stupid.  You idiots argue like - oh the big mac is healthier than the whopper!! Coke is better than pepsi!  

tell us who they have that can compete
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 15, 2015, 10:38:26 AM
lol they better not the repubs won't have anybody left to run


Some of Mrs. Clinton’s potential GOP rivals for the presidency in 2016, operating under state law, wrestled with similar issues.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a likely Republican presidential candidate, primarily used a personal email account on his own computer server when he was in office from 1999 to 2007. In December, he posted online hundreds of thousands of emails from both the private and government accounts. Mr. Bush’s spokeswoman said that emails from the private account unrelated to government business weren’t turned over to the state or preserved.

(snip)

But much like with Mrs. Clinton, the decision over which emails should be considered official and which remain private was made by Mr. Bush. It is unclear how many emails Mr. Bush withheld because he deemed them unrelated to state business.

“He did exactly what Hillary did,” said Barbara Petersen, president of the First Amendment Foundation, a Florida-based government watchdog group. In turning over emails from his private account, she said, Mr. Bush and his staff “went through those emails and decided what were public-record emails and what wasn’t.”

(snip)

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who is also considering a White House bid, used a private account to send emails to reporters in 2008 when he was a leader in the Florida House. When the Orlando Sentinel filed a public-records request for the emails from the private account about the legislative session, Mr. Rubio’s spokeswoman said they had been deleted.

The law appears to have left it to Mr. Rubio and his staff to decide which material was significant enough to preserve from his private and government accounts, said Ms. Petersen of the watchdog group.

(snip)

Another likely GOP presidential candidate, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, used a private email account to conduct public business while he was Milwaukee County executive. He relied on private emails to exchange messages with his closest aides, including correspondence on county business.

More..

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-potential-gop-rivals-used-personal-email-accounts-1426205325

Hahahaha, find one politician without baggage and I'll put on Tbombz's HIV riddled bunny suit.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 10:43:41 AM
Hahahaha, find one politician without baggage and I'll put on Tbombz's HIV riddled bunny suit.

exactly, that's why I can't figure out why they jump on the band wagon when their own closets are full with the same shit
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Archer77 on March 15, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
exactly, that's why I can't figure out why they jump on the band wagon when their own closets are full with the same shit

I agree.  You make a fair assessment.  It always comes back around to bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 15, 2015, 02:09:47 PM
I stopped reading at "NY Times".
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 02:14:31 PM
I stopped reading at "NY Times".

who cares,you don't come across as that bright anyway :)
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 15, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
who cares,you don't come across as that bright anyway :)

Neither do you which why you usually cut and paste articles from leftist rags. The second you post anything from NY Times, LA Times, Mother Jones, Media Matters, etc it's immediately dismissed. You have Killary caught damn near red handed then all of the sudden here comes the left with manufacturing some dirt from some one on the right. Brian William...the following week here comes Mother Jones with a bullshit article about Bill O'Reilly. lol
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Neither do you which why you usually cut and paste articles from leftist rags. The second you post anything from NY Times, LA Times, Mother Jones, Media Matters, etc it's immediately dismissed. You have Killary caught damn near red handed then all of the sudden here comes the left with manufacturing some dirt from some one on the right. Brian William...the following week here comes Mother Jones with a bullshit article about Bill O'Reilly. lol

so your junk from far right sites and fox news is more credible :D :D ok ,are you telling me you think oreill didn't lie :D :D :D :D you are fucking stupid
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Neither do you which why you usually cut and paste articles from leftist rags. The second you post anything from NY Times, LA Times, Mother Jones, Media Matters, etc it's immediately dismissed. You have Killary caught damn near red handed then all of the sudden here comes the left with manufacturing some dirt from some one on the right. Brian William...the following week here comes Mother Jones with a bullshit article about Bill O'Reilly. lol

Sorry, but the 7.5 year timespan comes from Jeb's lawyer.  It's accurate.  Jeb was ordered to give up the emails upon leaving office  He took almsot 8 years.

NY Times sucks, but they didn't make that up.   Jeb can't hate on hilary, he's hiding his too lol.

Mr. Bush delivered the latest batch of 25,000 emails in May 2014, seven and a half years after leaving the Statehouse and just as he started to contemplate a potential run for the White House, according to a newly disclosed letter written by his lawyer.

A Florida statute governing the preservation of public records requires elected officials, including the governor, to turn over records pertaining to official business “at the expiration of his or her term of office.”
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: blacken700 on March 15, 2015, 03:13:19 PM
Sorry, but the 7.5 year timespan comes from Jeb's lawyer.  It's accurate.  Jeb was ordered to give up the emails upon leaving office  He took almsot 8 years.

NY Times sucks, but they didn't make that up.   Jeb can't hate on hilary, he's hiding his too lol.

Mr. Bush delivered the latest batch of 25,000 emails in May 2014, seven and a half years after leaving the Statehouse and just as he started to contemplate a potential run for the White House, according to a newly disclosed letter written by his lawyer.

A Florida statute governing the preservation of public records requires elected officials, including the governor, to turn over records pertaining to official business “at the expiration of his or her term of office.”

coach is the type of guy that gets his marching orders from rush, hannidy and any far right kook site that spews his agenda
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: James28 on March 15, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
Coach tries so hard to come across as 'informed'
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 15, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
Coach tries so hard to come across as 'informed'

So does the left but since we predicted almost everything would go wrong, yes, way more informed and accurate.
Title: Re: New York Times BUSTS Jeb Bush For VIOLATING Florida Email Law
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2015, 08:31:51 PM
So does the left but since we predicted almost everything would go wrong, yes, way more informed and accurate.

presidents are fairly transparent.

Back in 2000 when repubs chose Bush, looking at his staff, Dems knew it'd be a presidency of war, global policing and monster war spending.

back in 2008, when Dems chose obama, looking at his staff/history, Repubs knew it'd be a presidency of amnesty, obamacare, welfare expansion.

There are no surprises with presidents.