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Title: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
Post by: crownshep on March 14, 2015, 07:20:40 AM
New record by Eddie Hall,god to see Arnie cheering him on

Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: bigmc on March 14, 2015, 07:24:22 AM
Eddie is a beast future worlds strongest man

im going to watch the british this summer
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 14, 2015, 07:27:27 AM
Strong dude...no suit!
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Sophus on March 14, 2015, 08:24:31 AM
Crazy
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Mitch on March 14, 2015, 09:41:11 AM
EZ PZ.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Powerlift66 on March 14, 2015, 09:57:34 AM
Eddie Hall is a beast, Nuff Sed...
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: crownshep on March 14, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
He did a 461 at the europes strongest man and matched Benni but it didn`t count because he dropped the bar down.

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Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: local hero on March 14, 2015, 10:12:58 AM
Did he not get 2 reps in the euro with 420 or so when they never gave him the 1st rep, immensely strong young man, can match anyone statically, struggles on load race type events tho

Best British strongman in decades, shame eddy Elwood never moved into strongman earlier on in his career as he had similar strength levels
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Fortress on March 14, 2015, 09:46:42 PM
Amazing, but ...

Used wrist straps.

NOT official.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 15, 2015, 05:16:12 AM
I wanted to hate because I like Magnusson, but that was a nice lift. I don't mind the straps as much because all of the #1000 deadlifts haven't been official official. Benni's first was on high quality gym plates, but not official competition plates, with belt. The other was on competition plates, but with belt and straps. Now Hall's is just straps. So in my mind, all three are sort of up there in the same league.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: closeline on March 15, 2015, 06:16:32 AM
I wanted to hate because I like Magnusson, but that was a nice lift. I don't mind the straps as much because all of the #1000 deadlifts haven't been official official. Benni's first was on high quality gym plates, but not official competition plates, with belt. The other was on competition plates, but with belt and straps. Now Hall's is just straps. So in my mind, all three are sort of up there in the same league.

No Way he could Lift this weight without Straps, he s Almost loosing it with straps

And he s bouncing the weight up, which is against the rules
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 15, 2015, 06:27:27 AM


And he s bouncing the weight up, which is against the rules

You're right, I didn't catch that much of a hitch the first time around, I see it now. It's on the mild side.


Here are all three against each other -

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Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2015, 06:44:29 AM
How is that a world record if he used straps?
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 15, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
How is that a world record if he used straps?

That's the problem.  Some have taken to calling these with the straps Strongman Style Deadlift records because the rules on straps and hitching are looser than powerlifting. As far as powerlifting goes, the record is still generally accepted as held held by Magnusson, but then you have the question of the plates.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: IronMeister on March 15, 2015, 10:32:41 AM
(http://thelantern.com/media/1258338-1654517982.jpg)
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Darren Avey on March 15, 2015, 10:40:31 AM
I can understand straps and hitching and that but what the hell difference do the plates make? If its a 25kg plate its a 25kg plate isn't it?
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 15, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
When you cast iron plates, they'll be some overage or underage on the stated weight. On the cheapest plates there is no guarantee on it matching the stated weight, so you can see wild swings on the plates. Better gym quality plates are usually guaranteed to be -/+ 2% of stated weight, and competition plates are guaranteed to within a few grams.

You can negate having to use competition plates by weighing them on a calibrated scale, but then you'd have to check the scale, and trust the meet director, etc.... Most of the larger feds now call for the plates to be competition for it to count.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Immortal_Technique on March 15, 2015, 11:04:20 AM
It's a strongman world record.If you're Brian Shaw, Big Z or a WSM fan this lift totally counts.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2015, 11:28:09 AM
How is that a world record if he used straps?

Agreed.  If you cannot hold onto it, how can you call it a successful lift?  Same with all those rubberized suits some power lifters choose to wear. 

I couldn't lift it either way but that's not the point.  The point is they can't with out the assistance of those straps.  Still strong?  Yes. 
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: affeman on March 15, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
Why is he using an overhand grip? He could've done way more with an alternate grip. ???
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: The Scott on March 15, 2015, 11:35:59 AM
It's a strongman world record.If you're Brian Shaw, Big Z or a WSM fan this lift totally counts.

If one thinks of it in this context, I suppose you are correct sir!

I am a fan of WSM and believe those men to be true athletes.  Functional, not fictional strength. Bodybuilders get the title that Bill Pearl once bestowed upon them en masse -  "Physique Athletes". 

Live to pose.  Pose to live.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: SuperTed on March 16, 2015, 03:00:38 AM
Ed's a fucking beast. Seems like a good dude as well.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: TheShape. on March 16, 2015, 07:09:42 AM
Amazing.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Powerlift66 on March 16, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
Agreed.  If you cannot hold onto it, how can you call it a successful lift?  Same with all those rubberized suits some power lifters choose to wear. 

I couldn't lift it either way but that's not the point.  The point is they can't with out the assistance of those straps.  Still strong?  Yes. 

Strongman deadlift has different rules than PL... (Straps, hitching, all OK)...
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 16, 2015, 07:32:07 AM
When you cast iron plates, they'll be some overage or underage on the stated weight. On the cheapest plates there is no guarantee on it matching the stated weight, so you can see wild swings on the plates. Better gym quality plates are usually guaranteed to be -/+ 2% of stated weight, and competition plates are guaranteed to within a few grams.

You can negate having to use competition plates by weighing them on a calibrated scale, but then you'd have to check the scale, and trust the meet director, etc.... Most of the larger feds now call for the plates to be competition for it to count.

So they actually don't weigh the plates before competition? Wow! I assumed there would always be an official scale at any legit meet to weight all the plates to get an exact weight...
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 16, 2015, 07:43:25 AM
New record by Eddie Hall,god to see Arnie cheering him on

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Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 16, 2015, 07:54:19 AM
So they actually don't weigh the plates before competition? Wow! I assumed there would always be an official scale at any legit meet to weight all the plates to get an exact weight...

Yeah, on the calibrated sets, it's generally thought ok, because they are guaranteed by the factory, and it would be an expensive thing to try and fake. The sets themselves running into the high 4 figures for the size need to run a meet.

With meets run on gym plates it can be a tough thing, as someone always forgets to weigh them, or weighs them long before or long after the lift. It wasn't uncommon in the old days to have a lift be a decent bit over or under weight. A famous case of plates not weighing what they should happened to a powerlifter named Ernie Hackett. He was set up for a #903 squat, and when they weighed out everything it was #940.

Then you've got the meet directors. Usually most guys just take their word for it, but some times you'd get whispers that meet director x has a few special lighter plates that they let lifter y use during the meet, etc....
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: gettingbetter on March 16, 2015, 10:49:23 AM
Fucking impressive... period!
Title: Would you fight Eddie Hall? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 16, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
In da cage or NHB? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!!

(http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/blog/images/Eddie_3.jpg)
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Darren Avey on March 16, 2015, 11:40:28 AM
Great lifter but someone said on here there was an interview with him where he said he d destroy all in UFC "with my strength!"  ::)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: funk51 on March 16, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
In da cage or NHB? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!!

(http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/blog/images/Eddie_3.jpg)
if this would come at me in beast mode, i think i would start crying. than i would reach in my pocket for this. no court in the country would convict me...
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: thegamechanger on March 16, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
why does it always have to be about fighting  ???
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: funk51 on March 16, 2015, 11:51:41 AM
on second thought i rather use this better safe than sorry...
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: funk51 on March 16, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
if that fails there's always this.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BB on March 16, 2015, 11:55:59 AM
Sure, realistically how much damage could he do to you in a sporting fight before it's stopped, you tap, koed, etc....? Out on the street, it's a different story  ;D.

Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 16, 2015, 11:57:03 AM
I thought every MMA twink would have no second doubts about beating him?
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Man of Steel on March 16, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
Eddie would be an easy warm-up fight and victory for all GBr's given their ultra-professional MMA fighting status.

Further, alpha GBrs should not fight each other in the octagon as both particpants would surely get died.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 16, 2015, 12:03:06 PM
lol  :D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: hench on March 16, 2015, 12:05:37 PM
would I fight Eddie hall? Well looking at him it seems like it would be like taking on a bear but this is getbig, of course I'd fuck him up and hack him down before he had a chance to squeal for submission
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 16, 2015, 12:29:25 PM
on second thought i rather use this better safe than sorry...

Props for the Borderlands throwback...
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 16, 2015, 12:32:20 PM
No need for a large caliber.  A well placed shot from just a simple pellet or BB gun would be enough.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: bigmc on March 16, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
No need for a large caliber.  A well placed shot from just a simple pellet or BB gun would be enough.

that would require a marksman of some distinction sir

are you such a marksman
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
that would require a marksman of some distinction sir

are you such a marksman

He is a survivor of more than one code duello conflict, so I would say yes.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 16, 2015, 01:50:13 PM
The biggest, strongest guy I ever rolled with was the late Trevor Smith. What a monster, and he could move. The only way to approach it is to hang on for dear life and hope/pray he gasses.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/trevorsmithee.jpg)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: robcguns on March 16, 2015, 02:55:03 PM
Punch him in the throat,poke his eyes out and kick him in the balls,same as any human just bigger and stronger.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Tennisballz on March 16, 2015, 02:55:12 PM
How would mr. Hall fair in a fight with Haku?
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 16, 2015, 03:19:40 PM
The biggest, strongest guy I ever rolled with was the late Trevor Smith. What a monster, and he could move. The only way to approach it is to hang on for dear life and hope/pray he gasses.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/trevorsmithee.jpg)

Remember CroCops high kick : left foot = cemetery , right foot = hospital  ;D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: muscularny on March 16, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
I would but he refuses to fight me

on a serious note, of the many powerlifters he looks semi sane, thats not saying a lot
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 16, 2015, 03:38:05 PM
In da cage or NHB? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!!

(http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/blog/images/Eddie_3.jpg)
Big Dude wouldn't last 5 minutes in the cage with an MMA pro.  Just look at Mariusz Pudzianowski who actually tapped to strikes.  Submitting to strikes is considered the biggest pussy act in MMA and yet the strongest man in the world did it. You nutters need to get it out of your head that size equals fighting ability.  No matter how big a man gets his head remains just as vulnerable and feels the pain the same way when it is punched repeatedly.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Archer77 on March 16, 2015, 03:38:52 PM
I'd fight him. Wouldn't take long for him to tire himself out.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 16, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
I'd fight him. Wouldn't take long for him to tire himself out.

Yeah, tire out from reapeatedly beating you
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Darren Avey on March 16, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
How would mr. Hall fair in a fight with Haku?

He d die, as would everyone, Haku s the hardest man that ever lived.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: True on March 16, 2015, 04:14:21 PM
Fight him? Hell No! :o Fuck him? Hell Yes! :D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 16, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Everyone who wants to fight Eddie Hall -> Outed as bearlovers for wanting to tangle up with the big dude
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Archer77 on March 16, 2015, 04:18:44 PM
Yeah, tire out from reapeatedly beating you

Winning doesn't matter.  It's about the challenge.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BB on March 16, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
Everyone who wants to fight Eddie Hall -> Outed as bearlovers for wanting to tangle up with the big dude

Could you imagine a man the size of Hall throwing you in a camel clutch?  :o :o  ;D.


Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Fortress on March 16, 2015, 04:47:51 PM
Big Dude wouldn't last 5 minutes in the cage with an MMA pro.  Just look at Mariusz Pudzianowski who actually tapped to strikes.  Submitting to strikes is considered the biggest pussy act in MMA and yet the strongest man in the world did it. You nutters need to get it out of your head that size equals fighting ability.  No matter how big a man gets his head remains just as vulnerable and feels the pain the same way when it is punched repeatedly.

I don't think ANYONE thinks this. But in the way a train engine doesn't possess any fighting ability but will still destroy much of anything in its path, so, too, will an individual who is vastly superior in size and strength to an average Joe.

To be so monstrous and strong and powerful is to have a considerable advantage in a physical altercation. As with cardio, flexibility, co-ordination, etc., strength and power are physical attributes of huge worth in any hand-to-hand battle.

Even from a purely defensive standpoint, massive size and strength provides armour and structural resilience.

And your suggestion about the head, throat, etc. being every bit as vulnerable? You're correct. However, to strike any of these areas in a one-shot-one-"kill" manner is not all that easy a task. Especially when someone of ungodly force capability is attacking with aggression and intent.

P.S. Your Mariusz "example" is deeply flawed. Fact is, for a man of his almost-zero-cage-fighting experience, he was able to hold his own for a time against an elite-calibre former world champion fighter (who is also substantially taller than he is). You're reading his relative failures as a MMA fighter in reverse.    
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Meaningless on March 16, 2015, 04:48:31 PM
In da cage or NHB? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!!

(http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/blog/images/Eddie_3.jpg)

462kg, HTH
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 16, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
Could you imagine a man the size of Hall throwing you in a camel clutch?  :o :o  ;D.




Well... I couldn't before....  :-X
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 16, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Punch him in the throat,poke his eyes out and kick him in the balls,same as any human just bigger and stronger.

So your opponent can't do the same to you? If you tried to eye gouge a trained jui jitsu fighter he would put you to sleep and you would wake up with your balls in your empty eye sockets.

In MMA he would be beat quickly. Just a different endeavor. Strength without power, speed and endurance won't go far in MMA. Also you have to know how to fight.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: spiro on March 16, 2015, 05:22:16 PM
Hell no that guy would steam roll 99 percent of the world's population. I love mma but it would take a highly skilled fighter to stop a guy like this. In super close quarters they might even find themselves on their ass starring at the ceiling he could attack you like a cave man.

Close quarters against a wall or bar negates a lot of skill.

Imagine the kind of raw aggression this guy could generate.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Fortress on March 16, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
Why is he using an overhand grip? He could've done way more with an alternate grip. ???

To use an alternate grip when using wrist straps is pointless.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 16, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
I don't think ANYONE thinks this. But in the way a train engine doesn't possess any fighting ability but will still destroy much of anything in its path, so, too, will an individual who is vastly superior in size and strength to an average Joe.

To be so monstrous and strong and powerful is to have a considerable advantage in a physical altercation. As with cardio, flexibility, co-ordination, etc., strength and power are physical attributes of huge worth in any hand-to-hand battle.

Even from a purely defensive standpoint, massive size and strength provides armour and structural resilience.

And your suggestion about the head, throat, etc. being every bit as vulnerable? You're correct. However, to strike any of these areas in a one-shot-one-"kill" manner is not all that easy a task. Especially when someone of ungodly force capability is attacking with aggression and intent.

P.S. Your Mariusz "example" is deeply flawed. Fact is, for a man of his almost-zero-cage-fighting experience, he was able to hold his own for a time against an elite-calibre former world champion fighter (who is also substantially taller than he is). You're reading his relative failures as a MMA fighter in reverse.    
You're simply deluded, and feeding into the stereotype that size equals fighting ability.  There have been many giants in the fighting game, most of which never did anything.  Bob Sapp is a giant of a man but an average fighter with a terrible record (he has lost 16 of his last 18 fights).  Even an average fighter could avoid some steroid fueled monster for a few minutes until they can no longer hold their hands up and literally fall over, at which point repeated punches to the head result in even the largest men giving up or losing consciousness . 

And who tries to one-shot one-kill somebody, you have been watching to many movies.  

(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/professional-muscle-forum/6294d1129863013-ronnie-vs-bob-sapp-coleman_sapp.jpg)

(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/yThWX3b2FRoij3pxPDT1JHyPAzE=/0x56:560x371/1600x900/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/17657685/bob-sapp-crying.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Europe on March 16, 2015, 08:36:00 PM
just circle around him for 1min.. he'll start gassing and pick him apart with punches.. he wants to grab you, circle around.. rinse & repeat
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: old-school-lifter on March 16, 2015, 10:12:45 PM
straps = NOT a legit Deadlift
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: old-school-lifter on March 16, 2015, 10:18:41 PM
what happnd to Andy Bolton?
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 12:03:47 AM
he made that look so easy...amazing power
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: funk51 on March 17, 2015, 11:01:46 AM
Well... I couldn't before....  :-X
guy got humbled... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: SuperTed on March 17, 2015, 11:23:03 AM
You're simply deluded, and feeding into the stereotype that size equals fighting ability.  There have been many giants in the fighting game, most of which never did anything.  Bob Sapp is a giant of a man but an average fighter with a terrible record (he has lost 16 of his last 18 fights).  Even an average fighter could avoid some steroid fueled monster for a few minutes until they can no longer hold their hands up and literally fall over, at which point repeated punches to the head result in even the largest men giving up or losing consciousness .  

And who tries to one-shot one-kill somebody, you have been watching to many movies.  

He never said that size equals fighting ability. He said that size is a massive advantage in a fight and he is right.
If size was irrelevant in a fight than why are there weight classes in all combat sports? If strength was irrelevant in a fight than why do all fighters attempt to increase strength as part of their training routine?
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Darren Avey on March 17, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Could Eddie beat Ronda?!  ::)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
hahaha how do you know if Eddie can fight or not? What if a volly of his punches hit the head of one of these little men? I would not like to be on the receiving end of that.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Bobby on March 17, 2015, 12:07:11 PM
Big Dude wouldn't last 5 minutes in the cage with an MMA pro.  Just look at Mariusz Pudzianowski who actually tapped to strikes.  Submitting to strikes is considered the biggest pussy act in MMA and yet the strongest man in the world did it. You nutters need to get it out of your head that size equals fighting ability.  No matter how big a man gets his head remains just as vulnerable and feels the pain the same way when it is punched repeatedly.  Hope this helps.

can we have video of this?
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: bradistani on March 17, 2015, 12:33:07 PM
In da cage or NHB? 662 KG deadlifting MONSTER!!

(http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/blog/images/Eddie_3.jpg)

depends on the size of the purse
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
the big guy at the left side of the second pic maybe, you need some weight, size and height to go against Eddie.

I just watched Marius fighting Tim Slyvia, embarrassing for Marius, cant fight for shit, but Tim is a big guy too.

I would love to see your bantamweight go against Eddie and knock him cold!
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Henda on March 17, 2015, 12:43:25 PM
Fuck no would I willingly fight him, that's a bloke who can do some fucking serious damage.

When I hear people think mma is the be all and end all I always think back to the time when a good friend of mine who for a long time was widely regarded as the top man in our area, bloke was an absolute animal and fought for money down the local docks, there was a younger lad who was an mma fighter making a name for himself and was starting to be talked about as the next top dog, well when they inevitably met the mma guy lasted as long as it took for his fist to connect with his chin, knocking him out cold and breaking his jaw and helped out of the bar by his 'gang' of mma buddies.

While I'm certainly not implying that eddy could beat any cage fighter, mma doesn't mean you can walk though any guy on the planet either
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 12:46:20 PM
No need for a large caliber.  A well placed shot from just a simple pellet or BB gun would be enough.

Oh please do tell us about your called shot placement and elaborate on the terminal ballistics of a .177 caliber pellet.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 12:53:51 PM
then why are there weight divisions? surely seeing such stand offs between david and goliath would be a hit. If it means shit then why?
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Neptune100 on March 17, 2015, 12:56:18 PM
the big guy at the left side of the second pic maybe, you need some weight, size and height to go against Eddie.

I just watched Marius fighting Tim Slyvia, embarrassing for Marius, cant fight for shit, but Tim is a big guy too.

I would love to see your bantamweight go against Eddie and knock him cold!

the big guy on the left side is an mma fighter, james thompson.  My money would be on him.  Marius has won 5 of his last 6 fights.  Thats pretty good IMO.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: spiro on March 17, 2015, 12:58:17 PM
Well no fucking shit a trained professional fighter beats him in a fight the majority of the time. He would destroy normal people with no fight training. He might even catch a professional against a wall or against a bar who knows. Can he throw a punch who knows.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 01:00:41 PM
then why are there weight divisions? surely seeing such stand offs between david and goliath would be a hit. If it means shit then why?

weight divisions are for professional or up and coming amateur fighters who have been fighting and learning their art most their life, probably from a young age.

The skill set amongst top fighter is already there.
Its to make a fight fair between fighters who already have skills, know what they are doing, if they didn't they wouldn't even be able to fight professionally in the first place.

That does not mean a guy like Eddie Hall who has never trained to fight is gonna fuck over a bantamweight or flyweight double belt holder who's been doing this shit for year just cos he is heavier.

9 times out of 10 he would find that out the hard way


Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 01:03:29 PM
Well no fucking shit a trained professional fighter beats him in a fight the majority of the time. He would destroy normal people with no fight training. He might even catch a professional against a wall or against a bar who knows. Can he throw a punch who knows.

watch a strong man show, the dude can't fucking walk 50 yards without panting for breath and getting nose bleeds every two seconds and you think he might actually be able to throw a punch...LOL
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
but still your putting cardio fitness as the highest fighting weapon here, therefore the bantamweight and fly weights should be able to take out the heavyweights, by saying the category's make it fair then your conceding that size and power have some part to play.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
watch a strong man show, the dude can't fucking walk 50 yards without panting for breath and getting nose bleeds every two seconds and you think he might actually be able to throw a punch...LOL

he might be out of breath after carrying hundreds of kg 100 yards or after squatting 100's of kg for reps, quite high intensity cardio demanding activities.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Neptune100 on March 17, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
he might be out of breath after carrying hundreds of kg 100 yards or after squatting 100's of kg for reps, quite high intensity cardio demanding activities.

a man that big with that much weight and muscle is going to gas quick.  The problem is if he hits you, youre done. If he gets a hold of you, you're done.  I dont even think most wrestlers less than 240lbs could stop him once he got his hands on them.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
but still your putting cardio fitness as the highest fighting weapon here, therefore the bantamweight and fly weights should be able to take out the heavyweights, by saying the category's make it fair then your conceding that size and power have some part to play.

Of course you are right if the skill set is already there....i.e. you have a heavy weight professional fighter (with great ability) he is 9 times out of 10 gonna beat the flyweight professional fighter (also with great ability)

Because at the end of the day we are comparing oranges with orange......just that one orange is just a juicy as the other orange but bigger so u get more juice.

But when you compare apples with oranges.....like Eddie Hall vs Giorgio, that is where you get in trouble thinking Eddie would beat G.

He wouldn't because Eddie is a strong Apple.

But Girgio the small Orange would destroy a big Apple any day.

Because Oranges always beat Apples of any kind, no matter how much they weigh

Hope that makes sense.

Happy St Paddy's day. :D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Noel Fuller on March 17, 2015, 01:16:20 PM
No
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 01:26:47 PM
No

Serious question, how many months do you think it would take from Eddie's current condition to be down to 7% bodyfat under your instructions and coaching if he did everything you said to the dot starting from today?

Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 01:39:27 PM
54" waist with abs.  ::)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 01:42:15 PM

Serious question, how many months do you think it would take from Eddie's current condition to be down to 7% bodyfat under your instructions and coaching if he did everything you said to the dot starting from today?

Joon, this guy would whip your ass into shape, but I don't think you have the cojones to do what he tells you diet and "supplement" wise.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 17, 2015, 01:58:17 PM
54" waist with abs.  ::)

hes a strongman they dont care about girly packs.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: hench on March 17, 2015, 02:06:29 PM
All this debate about strongman v fighter but the original question was "would you fight Eddie hall"? My answer, only if I had too
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 02:09:44 PM
Joon, this guy would whip your ass into shape, but I don't think you have the cojones to do what he tells you diet and "supplement" wise.

Yeah totally agree I would love Noel or Disgusted to coach me.

I would be a machine.

Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 02:26:31 PM

Yeah totally agree I would love Noel or Disgusted to coach me.

I would be a machine.

Who wouldn't? I've considered reaching out on occasion, but I am not sure that I have the stones or that my family has the patience to put up with me. But man, if I could reach 10% of the shape that Noel got Tom into. Holy fuck!
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 17, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
Yeah, and 1000 out of a 1000 times this fellow would fuck your whole neighbourhood up:

(http://images.northrup.org/picture/xl/gorilla/silverback.jpg)


Fucking A

The question was whether you'd fight Eddie Hall, not whether you think some buddy of yours could get his ass handed to him.


Ps. lmao at the flyweight knocking anyone out bullshit, they can't even knock each other out, let alone higher weightclasses  ::)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 17, 2015, 02:55:12 PM
He never said that size equals fighting ability. He said that size is a massive advantage in a fight and he is right.
If size was irrelevant in a fight than why are there weight classes in all combat sports? If strength was irrelevant in a fight than why do all fighters attempt to increase strength as part of their training routine?
You are confused aren't you.  although size can offer advantages some of the time there is a cut off point, being incredibly large is actually a disadvantage as the heart and lungs can't maintain the cardio needed for an intense fight situation.  Within a very short period of time such a fighters muscles will be fatigued and burning with lactic acid and the fighter then becomes extremely vulnerable and will be unable to defend himself properly. 

And fighters aren't just trying to increase strength for it's own sake, otherwise they would just all powerlift and become as big as they can, they are trying to increase their pound for pound strength and explosiveness, they are trying to become stronger for their size.  A pro fighter would never compromise other essential elements of his fighting game just to become stronger.

Your statement that size is a massive advantage in a fight is naive and wrong, like I said, it is actually a huge disadvantage.  But those with little to no fighting background continue to perpetuate this childish myth.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 17, 2015, 03:03:16 PM
can we have video of this?


- about the 9:00 min mark Mariusz taps to strikes, fucking pathetic, and Tim Sylvia was a washed up can at his point.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 17, 2015, 03:05:55 PM

Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
Who wouldn't? I've considered reaching out on occasion, but I am not sure that I have the stones or that my family has the patience to put up with me. But man, if I could reach 10% of the shape that Noel got Tom into. Holy fuck!

Everything is possible its a question of time, money and motivation.
I am too busy with work and other things right now to make it my priority.
I will be very happy at 12% right now.
Just can't concentrate on anything or work on low carbs.
Especially if you have mentally demanding job.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 17, 2015, 03:10:03 PM










Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: illuminati on March 17, 2015, 03:14:51 PM

Serious question, how many months do you think it would take from Eddie's current condition to be down to 7% bodyfat under your instructions and coaching if he did everything you said to the dot starting from today?















Yes you asked Noel.
You could ask big Ro for help he know & does what it takes to get in shape.

Looking at Eddie & his current body fat / test bloat levels,
I would say around 20wks max.
Possibly less time.
All depends how he responds to the step by step changes
& holds onto his muscle tissue.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 03:18:20 PM












Yes you asked Noel.
You could ask big Ro for help he know & does what it takes to get in shape.

Looking at Eddie & his current body fat / test bloat levels,
I would say around 20wks max.
Possibly less time.
All depends how he responds to the step by step changes
& holds onto his muscle tissue.


What % BF would you say Eddie is right now?

20 weeks is a long ass time.

I wanna be ready in 12 weeks.

I am around 17% ish right now.

Hard to tell with test bloat.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: SuperTed on March 17, 2015, 03:19:46 PM
You are confused aren't you.  although size can offer advantages some of the time there is a cut off point, being incredibly large is actually a disadvantage as the heart and lungs can't maintain the cardio needed for an intense fight situation.  Within a very short period of time such a fighters muscles will be fatigued and burning with lactic acid and the fighter then becomes extremely vulnerable and will be unable to defend himself properly. 

And fighters aren't just trying to increase strength for it's own sake, otherwise they would just all powerlift and become as big as they can, they are trying to increase their pound for pound strength and explosiveness, they are trying to become stronger for their size.  A pro fighter would never compromise other essential elements of his fighting game just to become stronger.

Your statement that size is a massive advantage in a fight is naive and wrong, like I said, it is actually a huge disadvantage.  But those with little to no fighting background continue to perpetuate this childish myth.

What's exactly your fighting background? Watching MMA on TV? ;D
I never said it was the only factor but having superior size and strength over an opponent is a significant advantage. I honestly don't know how anyone can dispute that.
Of course, there will come a point when a superior skill advantage will outweigh a size advantage but the same can be said vice versa.  
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: illuminati on March 17, 2015, 03:29:05 PM
What % BF would you say Eddie is right now?

20 weeks is a long ass time.

I wanna be ready in 12 weeks.

I am around 17% ish right now.

Hard to tell with test bloat.











Hard to put a figure on Eddie as he has a lot of Test bloat.
20wks is a fair time.
12wks is do able. Depends on how dedicated & hard working on diet & training etc.
If your around 17% now that's not to bad.
Getting to single digits is going to need some tough 'Mental Attitude' in your time span
That is the Key ingredient.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: mdef48 on March 17, 2015, 03:43:54 PM










Hard to put a figure on Eddie as he has a lot of Test bloat.
20wks is a fair time.
12wks is do able. Depends on how dedicated & hard working on diet & training etc.
If your around 17% now that's not to bad.
Getting to single digits is going to need some tough 'Mental Attitude' in your time span
That is the Key ingredient.


Exactly right and what do you think that "mental attitude" stems from?
In my opinion it stems from desire or a want or willingness to succeed in your goal no matter what.
The issue is when you have multiple desires and goals which conflict against each other.

For example. I want to make 300k this year (just hypothetical numbers not important)
In order for me to do that I need to work 16 hours a day, go through bunch of mental strain and pressure, react to opportunities at any given time.
So I grab that can of coke, fixated by numbers on my computer screen, why? Cos I will do anything to succeed in my goal to make that money.

BUT....now I also want to be 10% BF on the beach by summer to enjoy the fruits of my labor.
But you see it conflicts against my other life goals.
Something has to give right????

That is why it so tough to focus on multiple goals which often have conflicting scenarios and lifestyle choices.
 
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Bobby on March 17, 2015, 03:57:06 PM


- about the 9:00 min mark Mariusz taps to strikes, fucking pathetic, and Tim Sylvia was a washed up can at his point.

Interesting! Mariusz was gassed bad though and could barely stand up there
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: illuminati on March 17, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
Exactly right and what do you think that "mental attitude" stems from?
In my opinion it stems from desire or a want or willingness to succeed in your goal no matter what.
The issue is when you have multiple desires and goals which conflict against each other.

For example. I want to make 300k this year (just hypothetical numbers not important)
In order for me to do that I need to work 16 hours a day, go through bunch of mental strain and pressure, react to opportunities at any given time.
So I grab that can of coke, fixated by numbers on my computer screen, why? Cos I will do anything to succeed in my goal to make that money.

BUT....now I also want to be 10% BF on the beach by summer to enjoy the fruits of my labor.
But you see it conflicts against my other life goals.
Something has to give right????

That is why it so tough to focus on multiple goals which often have conflicting scenarios and lifestyle choices.
 












Yes you are correct.
Being focused on the goal of making that £ & having to put them hrs in
Is going to make it tough to stick to a diet plan & get the training in.
Very tough to achieve both But not impossible.

Go after the £ & maybe reduce your physique goals for this year
Or until you reach your financial goal.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 17, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
No.  I don't have fistfights anymore, ni66a I'm grown.

I would have a dick measuring contest with him though if he wanted.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: gettingbetter on March 17, 2015, 06:34:10 PM
Nope! Here is what would happen if I did


(http://i.imgur.com/GiELVsu.gif)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 17, 2015, 10:21:50 PM

I never said it was the only factor but having superior size and strength over an opponent is a significant advantage. I honestly don't know how anyone can dispute that.

I can't believe how anyone can believe the way you do other than someone being young and naive.  I posted half a dozen videos were a giant had a huge advantage in size and strength in a fight and yet got his arse handed too him. Where was this significant advantage you talk about for these giants?  What proof would it take for you to abandon your flawed belief system?  Or does believing that being big is all it takes to be a good fighter mean too much to you.  Cain Velasquez is a small heavy weight and still has dominated the biggest heavyweights in the division.  I have personally witnessed many bigger men get their arse handed too them by much smaller men.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: SuperTed on March 18, 2015, 03:48:33 AM
I can't believe how anyone can believe the way you do other than someone being young and naive.  I posted half a dozen videos were a giant had a huge advantage in size and strength in a fight and yet got his arse handed too him. Where was this significant advantage you talk about for these giants?  What proof would it take for you to abandon your flawed belief system?  Or does believing that being big is all it takes to be a good fighter mean too much to you.  Cain Velasquez is a small heavy weight and still has dominated the biggest heavyweights in the division.  I have personally witnessed many bigger men get their arse handed too them by much smaller men.

Holy shit you are dense! I never said that size is the only factor in a fight but I said it plays a significant factor – hence the requirement for weight classes.
Yes, I’ve seen those videos you posted and I could easily post hundreds of videos in which a bigger guy beats the crap out of a smaller opponent to counter it. ::)

Of course, as I’ve already said, a smaller guy can beat a bigger guy if the skill difference between the two outweighs the size difference (Fedor Vs Zuluzinho) but there also eventually comes a point where the size and strength difference can outweigh any skill difference. For instance, put a top MW champion against a fairly average HW, the HW would still be favourite to win due to his superior mass and strength. The only way the MW would win is if the skill difference between the two is vast enough to compensate for the size disparity.
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: O.Z. on March 18, 2015, 03:52:38 AM
always love watching this


Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: BigRo on March 18, 2015, 04:40:21 AM
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: hench on March 18, 2015, 07:23:36 AM
yea why didn't that continue, he wasn't knocked out
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Meaningless on March 18, 2015, 09:13:18 AM
straps = NOT a legit Deadlift

Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: local hero on March 18, 2015, 09:29:40 AM
Andy Bolton must be getting past it, he failed at a weight Eddie hit for 2 reps at the euro


Love the experts dismissing it because of straps, not as tho he was benching with a triple plye bench shirt, he physically lifted that weight off the ground
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 18, 2015, 10:09:49 AM
Bolton is getting older and is a bit torn up.

Benni, too, is getting a bit older, and has been getting his fair share of injures. Also, he's settling down, and not wanting to add bodyweight like when he was younger.

I don't think we'll see another relatively large jump in the deadlift for a while, and when we do, it will be on the strongman side. There are a number in the #900+ range, and bodywise,  they've got the builds to add more size comfortably.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Tony Doherty on March 18, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
I was there, right next to Arnold and can tell you it was an incredible lift. The plates are calibrated and by strongman rules it was 100% legit and a new record. He has done 480 in training and I predict that he will be the first human to deadlift 500kg in the near future.

It was a really exciting and entertaining lift and Arnold talked about it all weekend. Ed is a solid dude.

TD
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Powerlift66 on March 18, 2015, 02:00:04 PM
Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)

Exzactly.. ^    A double  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: illuminati on March 18, 2015, 02:32:44 PM
fight was stopped pre maturely though ^^















Why was it stopped so quick.
Did he tap out & I missed it.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: hench on March 18, 2015, 05:44:03 PM
are there separate records for a deadlift with straps and one without?

Eddie is a strongman not powerlifter like Andy Bolton. Nobody said it was done under powerlifting rules. The man deadlifted 462kg and your bitching about straps ::)
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: BB on March 18, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
are there separate records for a deadlift with straps and one without?


No, it's more of a very new thing, but it seems to be catching on with the strong man set. I've only seen the term "Strongman Deadlift" in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: 462kg deadlift
Post by: Overload on March 19, 2015, 10:53:29 AM
I was there, right next to Arnold and can tell you it was an incredible lift. The plates are calibrated and by strongman rules it was 100% legit and a new record. He has done 480 in training and I predict that he will be the first human to deadlift 500kg in the near future.

It was a really exciting and entertaining lift and Arnold talked about it all weekend. Ed is a solid dude.

TD

New record for Strongman.

Anyone who has pulled heavy weight knows straps make a significant difference.

Silver back gorilla strength any way you look at it.


8)
Title: Re: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
Post by: Donny on March 19, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
Straps or no Straps.. the Man lifted more than i ever will. STRONG
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: MAXX on March 19, 2015, 10:57:54 AM
yea why didn't that continue, he wasn't knocked out
that's Fedors brother. total badass

he would have been KO'd either way. cakewalk for Alexander..

Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Overload on March 19, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
that's Fedors brother. total badass

he would have been KO'd either way. cakewalk for Alexander..



Alex was probably half drunk and/or hung over.  That dude can throw hands with bad intentions.  I like how calm he is like he juts doesn't give a shit.


8)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 19, 2015, 01:43:27 PM
Alex was probably half drunk and/or hung over.  That dude can throw hands with bad intentions.  I like how calm he is like he juts doesn't give a shit.


8)

Not just 'like' he doesn't give a shit, he actually just doesn't give a shit  :D
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Overload on March 19, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
Not just 'like' he doesn't give a shit, he actually just doesn't give a shit  :D

True story.


8)
Title: Re: Would you fight Eddie Hall?
Post by: Sokolsky on March 19, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
True story.


8)

Wonder whether he went to jail for the alleged sexual assault or not.. news surrounding the whole incident kind of stopped...




"Did you not have enough adrenaline??"
"I have enough of everything, I did that for fun"  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
Post by: Sokolsky on March 19, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Think I'd rather get in a cage with Eddie Hall than with Aleksander hahahaha
Title: Re: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 19, 2015, 08:43:51 PM
Straps......hitched..... ..incredible feat but in no way a world record.
Title: Re: Eddie Hall - New record - 462 kg or 1018 lbs deadlift
Post by: The Scott on March 20, 2015, 07:11:09 PM
I understand that it counts for Strongman competitions but I still maintain that if you can't hold onto it by yourself you can't lift it.