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Title: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 09:51:37 AM
I hear some people take about 5 grams of creatine daily and never take a break ....


What's the longest you've been on creatine without coming off ?



Does it come to a point your body gets use to it and you're just waisting it ?




Wooossshhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2015, 09:56:08 AM
Even though I feel like a fool, I've been "on" for years.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 15, 2015, 09:57:52 AM
You only need about 2 - 1/2 teaspoons per day for max results.  Higher recommended amounts is just marketing BS to get you to buy/use more creatine.  

"Creatine loading"  ::)  ???

 
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: TheShape. on March 15, 2015, 09:58:18 AM
As a natural I can feel a difference honestly when I don't take it. I think if I was on gear it would be useless it take.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Rambone on March 15, 2015, 09:59:01 AM
Been on it for years. It's cheap as shit and has actually been proven to work unlike 99% of supplements. Take 3-5g a day of monohydrate instead of all the other garbage.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: MAXX on March 15, 2015, 09:59:42 AM
I use it in periods but really dont notice any difference.

guess I might be a non responder
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Dave D on March 15, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Are you talking about 5 grams of scientifically engineered KreAlkalyn Creatine?!! Thats like 25 grams of monhydrate. My word bodybuilders live on the edge.


Isn't it funny after all these years that the one supplement that actually works, we still don't have a consensus opinion on proper use of it (I know that there is I mean that theres STILL a broscience mentality).
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:02:51 AM
As a natural I can feel a difference honestly when I don't take it. I think if I was on gear it would be useless it take.

Not true. Creatine give you results via atp production which gear does not do.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 15, 2015, 10:03:38 AM
I took it for years too. My kidney tests started coming back bad. Doc told me to stop taking it and the numbers improved. Some will say that creatine changes into  creatinine that is used to measure kidney function and nothing to be alarmed about. It did alarm me so I stopped. If the kidneys are involved in filtering out creatine I didn't want the extra load on my kidneys. Creatine also made me retain water.  It is the only supplement I ever used that worked though.  The part that bothers me is that so many say it does nothing for them. The first time I took it my muscles got tighter and the pump was increased. No doubt I got stronger using it. It's just not worth the risk too me now. Use only German creapure brand. The stuff sold under so many brands is sourced from Chinese crap that you have to worry about impurities and even the creatine content.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: MAXX on March 15, 2015, 10:04:03 AM
I read it increases DHT levels and thus makes your hair fall off

one good reason for me not to take it
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: BB on March 15, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
Maybe a year and a 1/2 was my longest run on it. It loses it's pop after a while, but I can still feel a mild bump in endurance even after long periods. And as mentioned, it's cheap as heck in bulk.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Dave D on March 15, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
I read it increases DHT levels and thus makes your hair fall off

one good reason for me not to take it

What? Really Ive never heard anything like that.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:08:04 AM
What? Really Ive never heard anything like that.

I remember flaming a guy for saying it raised dht levels and he showed me the proof! Now, I never lost hair because of it, so real life application? Not so much...
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Dave D on March 15, 2015, 10:10:51 AM
I remember flaming a guy for saying it raised dht levels and he showed me the proof! Now, I never lost hair because of it, so real life application? Not so much...

This is depressing news. Im at a loss, I feel like Halo.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: robcguns on March 15, 2015, 10:13:17 AM
I took creatine for around 15 years,only took a break when i ran out for a couple days.Been off it for 3 years and havent noticed much of a diffenrence.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: MAXX on March 15, 2015, 10:15:24 AM
This is depressing news. Im at a loss, I feel like Halo.
I remember flaming a guy for saying it raised dht levels and he showed me the proof! Now, I never lost hair because of it, so real life application? Not so much...
If you do steroids your DHT levels are thorugh the roof anyways. So if you didn't lose hair by roids then you're not going to with adding some creatine lol
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:17:56 AM
if you do steroids your DHT levels are thorugh the roof anyways. If you didn't lose hair by roids then you're not going to with adding some creatine lol

I was using creatine for YEARS before ever touching gear, the hair loss was from the gear, creatine never had me lose hair.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
Not true. Creatine give you results via atp production which gear does not do.

I like you man, but that set off the BroScience Red Alert.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: MAXX on March 15, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
I was using creatine for YEARS before ever touching gear, the hair loss was from the gear, creatine never had me lose hair.
the increase is probably alot higher with steroids but never the less it increases with creatine also..
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 10:20:09 AM
I read it increases DHT levels and thus makes your hair fall off

one good reason for me not to take it


Damn, Never heard creatine was related to hairloss that's steroids like effects.... Has creatine being improved that much over the years to be that powerful ?



Woosshhhhh
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:21:06 AM
I like you man, but that set off the BroScience Red Alert.

ok, heard of some had affect atp, but not sure to the level of creatine. Creatine does it without shutdown of anything else. NOthing has ever come close to matching the magical results of creatine.

Who takes gear for atp increase in bb'ing? Nothing comes to mind, if anything, by all means, do let me know!
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Rambone on March 15, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
I read it increases DHT levels and thus makes your hair fall off

one good reason for me not to take it

Yeah in one 3 week study in 2009 in South Africa of 20 rugby players loading with 25g a day for a week. No follow up study after this groundbreaking discovery....
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
What about creatine sold at Walmart and target ?

Is it same quality just half the price ?

I even heard muscletech is behind those supps with different label, just to monopolize the industry.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Yeah in one 3 week study in 2009 of 20 rugby players loading with 25g a day for a week. No follow up study after this groundbreaking discovery....

I wonder what real world doses would translate to? Oh yeah, I did them and never lost hair, lol...
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Rami on March 15, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
2 months of 5 grams was the most I took, I been off creatine this year.

I hear some people take about 5 grams of creatine daily and never take a break ....


What's the longest you've been on creatine without coming off ?



Does it come to a point your body gets use to it and you're just waisting it ?




Wooossshhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 10:25:14 AM
2 months of 5 grams was the most I took, I been off creatine this year.


LOL! Better be careful with that stuff....
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Rambone on March 15, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
The only side effect I've ever experienced was wanting to kill "brutes".

- Elliot Rodger
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2015, 11:18:20 AM
Yeah in one 3 week study in 2009 in South Africa of 20 rugby players loading with 25g a day for a week. No follow up study after this groundbreaking discovery....

25g/day!? I think what they proved is that explosive diarrhea causes baldness.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 15, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
It is hard on the stomach.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
It is hard on the stomach.

So are protein powders specially beef protein .



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: TheShape. on March 15, 2015, 12:55:30 PM
It is hard on the stomach.
That's why you have to spend the extra buck for the more refined brand. The cheap stuff made me feel so sick and bloated.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 03:14:17 PM
That's why you have to spend the extra buck for the more refined brand. The cheap stuff made me feel so sick and bloated.



Which one , HP2 ?



Wooosshhhhh
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2015, 03:22:46 PM
Creakic
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Hulkotron on March 15, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
You only need about 2 - 1/2 teaspoons per day for max results.  Higher recommended amounts is just marketing BS to get you to buy/use more creatine.  

"Creatine loading"  ::)  ???

 

Haha yes, don't forget the "loading phase" oh brother
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 15, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
I took it for years too. My kidney tests started coming back bad. Doc told me to stop taking it and the numbers improved. Some will say that creatine changes into  creatinine that is used to measure kidney function and nothing to be alarmed about. It did alarm me so I stopped. If the kidneys are involved in filtering out creatine I didn't want the extra load on my kidneys. Creatine also made me retain water.  It is the only supplement I ever used that worked though.  The part that bothers me is that so many say it does nothing for them. The first time I took it my muscles got tighter and the pump was increased. No doubt I got stronger using it. It's just not worth the risk too me now. Use only German creapure brand. The stuff sold under so many brands is sourced from Chinese crap that you have to worry about impurities and even the creatine content.

So taking Roids to improve performance is bad but taking Creatine is ok? and you got side effects from Creatine but attack those who take roids? Fucking dickhead
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Grape Ape on March 15, 2015, 03:37:05 PM
Haha yes, don't forget the "loading phase" oh brother

Personally, I've done the creatine loading a few times....I swear I do feel it.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
Personally, I've done the creatine loading a few times....I swear I do feel it.

I feel it in my aching asshole during the "loading phase"
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Grape Ape on March 15, 2015, 03:43:01 PM
I feel it in my aching asshole during the "loading phase"

I don't notice any odd effects - just feel pumped/full
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Never1AShow on March 15, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
So taking Roids to improve performance is bad but taking Creatine is ok? and you got side effects from Creatine but attack those who take roids? Fucking dickhead

Steve Reeves only took creatine which he washed down with one arm pull-ups.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: wes on March 15, 2015, 04:13:35 PM
Does anyone still actually take this crap or any supplements for that matter?   
::)
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Knooger on March 15, 2015, 04:18:47 PM
Does anyone still actually take this crap or any supplements for that matter?   
::)

Yes, pre-workout, creatine and whey.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Natural Man on March 15, 2015, 04:35:18 PM
i took some for three years alomst a decade ago, non stop and started having porblems when urinating, pain, creatinine or something, felt like small stones in the uretrha....horrible sensation, was scared to go pee, read some stuff about it on the internet and stopped taking it and the pain stopped too after two weeks to my relief. It definitely causes troubles to your kidneys over time. For me, it took three years to start having side effects.
 it  obviously gives you more strenght and lots of water retention. Weeks after you stopped , once all the  extra creatine gets off your body you start pissing away all the water and you get smaller. The muscles built by the increase in strenght and stamina stay tho. But you cant train as hard as you did when off so it also eventually decrease after some time.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Leatherneck on March 15, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
Yes, pre-workout, creatine and whey.
Creatine, whey and multivitamin.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: SquatsRule on March 15, 2015, 05:01:37 PM
What's wrong bro? Testicular shut down from the cell tech? 
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 15, 2015, 05:20:48 PM
Does anyone still actually take this crap or any supplements for that matter?   
::)


Hell no.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Hulkotron on March 15, 2015, 05:20:55 PM
What's wrong bro? Testicular shut down from the cell tech? 

Forgot to stack w/ Gakic
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: SquatsRule on March 15, 2015, 05:32:12 PM
Forgot to stack w/ Gakic

Probably forget to take his PCT and liver support as well.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: forillagorilla on March 15, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
I feel it in my aching asshole during the "loading phase"

That's not creatine he was loading in your ass
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 07:07:02 PM
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Wooshh
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 07:17:53 PM
there was a 3 or 5 year long term study showing it's safe, should be fine for almost everyone who uses it.

For an ecto like me, it's very appreciated.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2015, 07:46:51 PM
i haven't used creatine in maybe 5 years.  Thinking about it.

If i recall correctly, when I'd stop taking it, I was always flatter, muscles lacked roundness. 
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 07:53:48 PM
i haven't used creatine in maybe 5 years.  Thinking about it.

If i recall correctly, when I'd stop taking it, I was always flatter, muscles lacked roundness. 

True, which is why like gear, you stay the hell on it unless you like being a smaller, less full version of yourself.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 15, 2015, 10:30:33 PM
What about creatine sold at Walmart and target ?

Is it same quality just half the price ?

I even heard muscletech is behind those supps with different label, just to monopolize the industry.
^^
Yes, Six Star is also made by "IOVATE" which is made in the same factory as MuscleTech...
It's all the same stuff.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: NordicNerd on March 16, 2015, 12:16:57 AM
I hear some people take about 5 grams of creatine daily and never take a break ....

What's the longest you've been on creatine without coming off ?

Does it come to a point your body gets use to it and you're just waisting it ?
...

I only take a break at holidays. It's difficult to estimate the effects, cause I quit training also for a couple of weeks. But anyway- no side effects and it's cheap, so....

NN
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: BigRo on March 16, 2015, 12:47:02 AM
creatine... you mean steak?
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: heenok on March 16, 2015, 01:36:50 AM
I took it for years too. My kidney tests started coming back bad. Doc told me to stop taking it and the numbers improved. Some will say that creatine changes into  creatinine that is used to measure kidney function and nothing to be alarmed about. It did alarm me so I stopped. If the kidneys are involved in filtering out creatine I didn't want the extra load on my kidneys. Creatine also made me retain water.  It is the only supplement I ever used that worked though.  The part that bothers me is that so many say it does nothing for them. The first time I took it my muscles got tighter and the pump was increased. No doubt I got stronger using it. It's just not worth the risk too me now. Use only German creapure brand. The stuff sold under so many brands is sourced from Chinese crap that you have to worry about impurities and even the creatine content.

THIS

if you are using creapure at a reasonable amount theres no health risks
ive been on creatine mono pretty much since ive started lifting, theres no need to loading or cycles. its something to take year round.
as i said if you are taking real creapure you will NOT have any kidney issue or subq water retention, it pulls the water inside the muscle

creatine also has numerous health benefits on the heart and brain.

for what it costs its stupid not to take it
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: SuperTed on March 16, 2015, 03:11:30 AM
If i recall correctly, when I'd stop taking it, I was always flatter, muscles lacked roundness. 

This is why I take it, I've noticed I feel flatter without it. Even if the little extra size is just water bloat, it still makes a small difference in how I look and feel.

As for the hair loss issue, I have lost a lot of hair at a very young age but I doubt creatine was responsible for that. If you are prone to hair loss than there is little you can do about it so there is no point getting too stressed over the causes.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: muscularny on March 16, 2015, 03:31:52 AM
only a fool or someone being paid to drink it on video uses creatine, complete waste, yeah will give ya some bloated bs size but if you are just after looking like a bloated fool with a moon face you can use many other things that will do it way quicker than creatine
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: SuperTed on March 16, 2015, 03:54:09 AM
only a fool or someone being paid to drink it on video uses creatine, complete waste, yeah will give ya some bloated bs size but if you are just after looking like a bloated fool with a moon face you can use many other things that will do it way quicker than creatine

Disagree. It's one of the few supplements that actually has scientific evidence proving it works. The added bloat is enough to make you feel fuller but isn't enough to give you a moon face. And it's also dirt cheap, so isn't really a waste of money.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: muscularny on March 16, 2015, 04:27:09 AM
Disagree. It's one of the few supplements that actually has scientific evidence proving it works. The added bloat is enough to make you feel fuller but isn't enough to give you a moon face. And it's also dirt cheap, so isn't really a waste of money.
According to junk science you can find in a bodybuilding magazine you are 100% right. According to the NIH the scientific evidence of it being anything remotely that people claim is absolutely BS

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/873.html

LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS ONE RULE - anything that works in any significant way will require a prescription or be banned.

Please people stop with this junk science stuff, leave that to the anti vaxxer moms.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 16, 2015, 04:33:26 AM
This thread should have a  no homo disclaimer in the topic
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: SquatsRule on March 16, 2015, 05:40:06 AM
Disagree. It's one of the few supplements that actually has scientific evidence proving it works. The added bloat is enough to make you feel fuller but isn't enough to give you a moon face. And it's also dirt cheap, so isn't really a waste of money.

Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Natural Man on March 16, 2015, 05:57:38 AM
According to junk science you can find in a bodybuilding magazine you are 100% right. According to the NIH the scientific evidence of it being anything remotely that people claim is absolutely BS

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/873.html

LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS ONE RULE - anything that works in any significant way will require a prescription or be banned.

Please people stop with this junk science stuff, leave that to the anti vaxxer moms.

it works, and is cheap. But there s a tradeoff; fake muscles / water retention and possibly kidney and urologic problems down the road.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: _aj_ on March 16, 2015, 06:11:22 AM
it works, and is cheap. But there s a tradeoff; fake muscles / water retention and possibly kidney and urologic problems down the road.

Since muscle growth is always ephemeral over time and whether or not you maintain an exercise regimen, I find the comment about creatine making "fake" muscles not to be terribly convincing.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 16, 2015, 06:41:46 AM
Since muscle growth is always ephemeral over time and whether or not you maintain an exercise regimen, I find the comment about creatine making "fake" muscles not to be terribly convincing.




Exactly, theyre some steroids that will give the moon face look anywyays.


woooSSHHHHHHH   BE YE KE
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 16, 2015, 07:39:25 AM
only a fool or someone being paid to drink it on video uses creatine, complete waste, yeah will give ya some bloated bs size but if you are just after looking like a bloated fool with a moon face you can use many other things that will do it way quicker than creatine

if you got a bloated face on creatine, gonna guess you were kinda fat to start with... Shit never did that to me, no idea what the hell you guys are talking about when it comes to bloat. Everyone I've ever known were fat fucks to start with, go on creatine, for a "bulk" eat chips and crap then blame the creatine for the bloat.

Idiots....

Same people  who can't tell me off the top of their heads how many carbs, protein, fats they eat without using some electronic shit to calculate for them...

Idiots...
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: CalvinH on March 16, 2015, 08:26:05 AM
Hated that shit, haven't tried it in years.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Hulkotron on March 16, 2015, 08:33:49 AM
 :D

http://www.si.com/vault/1998/04/20/241881/the-magic-potion-or-is-it-though-little-is-known-about-its-long-term-effects-the-muscle-building-supplement-creatine-is-the-rage-among-athletes-from-superstars-to-hot-to-bulk-up-teens
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: bigkahuna on March 16, 2015, 08:41:14 AM
which brand of creatine would you guys recommend?
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: wes on March 16, 2015, 08:58:57 AM
which brand of creatine would you guys recommend?
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Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pneumothorax on March 16, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Creatine makes me feel all bloated and shit.  Stopped using the stuff.  Plus it's hard on the kidneys.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 16, 2015, 09:20:28 AM
Creatine makes me feel all bloated and shit.  Stopped using the stuff.  Plus it's hard on the kidneys.

not so sure about that...
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 18, 2015, 07:32:03 AM
which brand of creatine would you guys recommend?


The one at Walmart.....  cant beat that .

I just started using it .




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: HTexan on March 18, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
So It fucks up your liver I hear that is why you cycle it?  ???
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: hipolito mejia on March 19, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
If you take 5 grams daily you should be fine in the long run ....  muscle will still maintain the fullness roundness .


Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 19, 2015, 12:13:22 PM
If you take 5 grams daily you should be fine in the long run ....  muscle will still maintain the fullness roundness .

In my experience with it, half that amount works just as well.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 24, 2015, 06:25:56 AM
In my experience with it, half that amount works just as well.


Before after working out ?





WoooSSSHHHHH Beyeke
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 24, 2015, 06:30:04 AM
In my experience with it, half that amount works just as well.

I guess when you weigh 130lbs, not much is needed.
 ;D
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 24, 2015, 06:31:41 AM

Before after working out ?

WoooSSSHHHHH Beyeke

Both, with meals.  Use the micronized stuff... three-four 1/4 teaspoons divided throughout the day.  Use a measuring spoon for accuracy.  Make sure it is fully dissolved before drinking it.  No gas or diarrhea at all.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 24, 2015, 06:33:51 AM
I guess when you weigh 130lbs, not much is needed.
 ;D

I'm 220, at 5'8", 49 year old and all natty.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 24, 2015, 06:35:15 AM
I'm 220, at 5'8", 49 year old and all natty.

then you have me beat.
pics? Damn good stats.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 24, 2015, 06:49:09 AM
then you have me beat.
pics? Damn good stats.

I'm in the middle of building/strength phase.  I'm 15-16% bf right now.  Serious diet starts on May 1st.  No pics, but maybe I'll post one in July.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: ritch on March 24, 2015, 06:51:58 AM
I'm in the middle of building/strength phase.  I'm 15-16% bf right now.  Serious diet starts on May 1st.  No pics, but maybe I'll post one in July.

Cool, let me know if you have any questions about your cycle.
Title: Re: Taking creatine for too long
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 24, 2015, 06:53:21 AM
Cool, let me know if you have any questions about your cycle.

Will do sonny.