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Title: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 15, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
I found a video from the contest but they're obviously not going to show that but fuck that noise , they show him in the prejudging and he doesn't even look all that lean & hard either

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/171af2b0ccdf7c64d72d/arnold-classic-1994



In the hours preceding the 1994 Arnold Classic prejudging on March 5th, heavily favored Paul Dillett--in pursuit of being drier than the Sahara in July -- was experiencing severe bouts of cramping. It later transpired that he had overdone one of the diuretics of choice of that era, which would set in motion a time bomb that would implode later in the day.


Early in the prejudging Paul went into a spasm around his obliques.

The 270-pounder's outward confidence as he walked onstage for the prejudging at 11:55am belied the acute discomfort he was undergoing. At 12:29pm, during the last callout of the symmetry round (the other two protagonists being Vince Taylor and Kevin Levrone), Dillett, with his back to the judging panel, tried to hit an impromptu double biceps pose. He raised his left arm and then locked it above his head as the oblique muscles on his left side went into a horrendous spasm. Unable to flex or lower his arm, Dillett lurched from the stage and slumped onto his back on a table in the recesses of the theater. Very soon, the stricken athlete was surrounded by a well-meaning group, among them a noncompeting Flex Wheeler who advised instant fluid intake. Dillett assured everyone that he was all right. "I'm not delirious or anything, you know," he said. "It's just a muscle spasm."

 A full 25 minutes elapsed before Dillett walked onstage again to execute his individual compulsories. His reappearance was greeted by tremendous applause and all hoped the crisis point had passed. With some difficulty, he completed his front double-biceps, front-lat and side-chest poses. Then, as he went into a back double-biceps pose, the 4,000 attendees gasped in


Later he totally collapsed and had to be carried unceremoniously offstage.

horror as the distressing scene they had witnessed 25 minutes earlier was repeated. Dillett grimaced and half screamed, "Oh, God!" (more in despair than pain) as a backstage marshal rushed to his aid. He still had his back to the audience as the marshal positioned himself to face Canada's biggest export since John Candy went Hollywood. Without anyone calling “Timber!” Paul took this as his cue to slump forward into the arms of the marshal, who was about six or seven inches shorter than the man he now fought to support. Three more marshals poured onstage and each grabbed a mighty Dillett limb and lifted him up. Unfortunately, he was facing downward, marooned in an ugly tableau of head-to-toe cramps that rendered him rigidly immobile. In this ungainly mode, Dillett's 270-pound physique was awkwardly lugged offstage. As an exit, the scene sort of lacked the grace and poise of the Pope being carried around St. Peter's Square in a sedan chair.

 NOT A DRY THIGH IN THE HOUSE

Stretched out behind the stage curtain, Paul was attended to by paramedics, who, with great difficulty, found a vein (Dillett was so dehydrated, all his surface veins had collapsed) in which to insert an IV drip. Throughout the trauma, Paul was completely coherent, and at no time did he display false heroics by talking of going on with the contest. It was his decision to be taken to the local hospital, to which he was ferried to at 1:25pm (with the prejudging in progress). He was released after three hours, and later appeared at the night show to tell the


Backstage waiting for paramedics.

audience how disappointed he was that he couldn't finish the contest, and flexing his mighty biceps added that when, “I return next year I will look disgusting!” (Only in bodybuilding are such statements looked upon with anticipatory approval.)

 In my original report of the incident, I wrote: "It can be argued that whatever torment Paul Dillett had endured, he inflicted it upon himself. (As well as his physical discomfort, there is the fiscal pain of the potential $90,000 winner's check that could well have been his as before his collapse he was pushing eventual winner Kevin Levrone and runner-up Vince Taylor all in the way.) But during the last two years, there has been a succession of bodybuilding


Even in silhouette Paul Dillett presented one hell of a physique.

casualties of varying degrees due to the demon of excessive water depletion. In the hunger for glory, competitors are willing to up the ante to any level in pursuit of first place. It seems the groundswell of pushing athletes to ever more arid levels is growing alarmingly.”

 The truth is that as the Arnold Classic throng watched Dillett’s gyrations just about everyone present was mindful that less than 18 months previously Momo Benaziza had died hours after the Dutch Grand Prix due to a heart attack brought on by severe dehydration of the type they saw on display in Columbus. And that in the past year Mike Matarazzo and Edgar Fletcher had visited death’s door in pursuit of ultimate dryness.



Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 15, 2015, 05:49:39 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 15, 2015, 06:15:54 PM
Still superior than Phil



Woooshhhhhhh
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Hulkster on March 15, 2015, 07:14:04 PM
still one of the worst back double bi's ever

everything else was insane though
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Dokey111 on March 15, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
should have been the greatest
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: SquidVicious on March 15, 2015, 07:34:51 PM
Delts filled to the rim with more SEO than Valvalino.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
i can't help but sing "let it go, let it go..." from the Frozen soundtrack when I see this
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2015, 07:46:10 PM
i can't help but sing "let it go, let it go..." from the Frozen soundtrack when I see this

My best friends 2 year old is addicted to Frozen. Every time I go over,  that damn movie is on.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 15, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
Delts filled to the rim with more SEO than Valvalino.
It wasn't invented back then.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: ritch on March 15, 2015, 08:01:57 PM
It wasn't invented back then.

huge reason why most guys just don't look right today, too much oil.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2015, 08:17:07 PM
My best friends 2 year old is addicted to Frozen. Every time I go over,  that damn movie is on.

have you watched the movie?  it's actually fairly brutal. 

"Your sister is dead!" and quotes like that.  Her parents getting killed at sea.  The way the hunting guys try to straight execute Elsa with a crowwbow, cold-blooded shit. 

In the old days, Disney movies were never that cruel.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: SF1900 on March 15, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
have you watched the movie?  it's actually fairly brutal. 

"Your sister is dead!" and quotes like that.  Her parents getting killed at sea.  The way the hunting guys try to straight execute Elsa with a crowwbow, cold-blooded shit. 

In the old days, Disney movies were never that cruel.

Never really watched it. Sounds brutal lol
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Rambone on March 15, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
Delts filled to the rim with more SEO than Valvalino.
Probably escline
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Royalty on March 15, 2015, 10:39:40 PM
Probably escline

Yup esceline (not synthol).

Levrone was a big fan too.


Vince Taylor once said that there was a certain pro that wouldn't leave the house unless he had done some esceline site injections. I pretty sure that he was referring to Paul Dillet.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Hypo on March 16, 2015, 02:31:44 AM
Where the fuck is the video?  >:(
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 16, 2015, 02:38:52 AM
Where the fuck is the video?  >:(

the page opens but the video is freezing...
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: da_vinci on March 16, 2015, 04:23:02 AM
Wow, it was so much more interesting to watch than current shows. All the backstage cameras, etc... BB'ing went down in so many ways over the years.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: a_pupil on March 16, 2015, 04:24:41 AM
I heard it was our friend nipples romano who did his diuretics protocal
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: simon on March 16, 2015, 04:40:19 AM
I was there when it happened, it was crazy to see in person.  He literally was frozen, I can't imagine the pain.  I thought for sure he was gonna die.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 16, 2015, 05:22:47 AM
If he took so many diuretics and pissed for an hour straight wouldn't he have lost definition and fullness? He's pretty fucking ripped there it's like he hit it right on perfectly and would have faded out as the judging went on.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Royalty on March 16, 2015, 05:29:27 AM
If he took so many diuretics and pissed for an hour straight wouldn't he have lost definition and fullness? He's pretty fucking ripped there it's like he hit it right on perfectly and would have faded out as the judging went on.

I think that his mineral balance was fucked.

Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium, Calcium ect... He pee'd out too many minerals. His muscle couldn't come out of contraction. So he locked up.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: youandme on March 16, 2015, 06:04:01 AM
LOl, in the AC movie that ND posted the judges and Arnold were highlighting Porter Cotrell's distended belly.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Ronnie Rep on March 16, 2015, 06:10:39 AM
I found a video from the contest but they're obviously not going to show that but fuck that noise , they show him in the prejudging and he doesn't even look all that lean & hard either

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/171af2b0ccdf7c64d72d/arnold-classic-1994



In the hours preceding the 1994 Arnold Classic prejudging on March 5th, heavily favored Paul Dillett--in pursuit of being drier than the Sahara in July -- was experiencing severe bouts of cramping. It later transpired that he had overdone one of the diuretics of choice of that era, which would set in motion a time bomb that would implode later in the day.


Early in the prejudging Paul went into a spasm around his obliques.

The 270-pounder's outward confidence as he walked onstage for the prejudging at 11:55am belied the acute discomfort he was undergoing. At 12:29pm, during the last callout of the symmetry round (the other two protagonists being Vince Taylor and Kevin Levrone), Dillett, with his back to the judging panel, tried to hit an impromptu double biceps pose. He raised his left arm and then locked it above his head as the oblique muscles on his left side went into a horrendous spasm. Unable to flex or lower his arm, Dillett lurched from the stage and slumped onto his back on a table in the recesses of the theater. Very soon, the stricken athlete was surrounded by a well-meaning group, among them a noncompeting Flex Wheeler who advised instant fluid intake. Dillett assured everyone that he was all right. "I'm not delirious or anything, you know," he said. "It's just a muscle spasm."

 A full 25 minutes elapsed before Dillett walked onstage again to execute his individual compulsories. His reappearance was greeted by tremendous applause and all hoped the crisis point had passed. With some difficulty, he completed his front double-biceps, front-lat and side-chest poses. Then, as he went into a back double-biceps pose, the 4,000 attendees gasped in


Later he totally collapsed and had to be carried unceremoniously offstage.

horror as the distressing scene they had witnessed 25 minutes earlier was repeated. Dillett grimaced and half screamed, "Oh, God!" (more in despair than pain) as a backstage marshal rushed to his aid. He still had his back to the audience as the marshal positioned himself to face Canada's biggest export since John Candy went Hollywood. Without anyone calling “Timber!” Paul took this as his cue to slump forward into the arms of the marshal, who was about six or seven inches shorter than the man he now fought to support. Three more marshals poured onstage and each grabbed a mighty Dillett limb and lifted him up. Unfortunately, he was facing downward, marooned in an ugly tableau of head-to-toe cramps that rendered him rigidly immobile. In this ungainly mode, Dillett's 270-pound physique was awkwardly lugged offstage. As an exit, the scene sort of lacked the grace and poise of the Pope being carried around St. Peter's Square in a sedan chair.

 NOT A DRY THIGH IN THE HOUSE

Stretched out behind the stage curtain, Paul was attended to by paramedics, who, with great difficulty, found a vein (Dillett was so dehydrated, all his surface veins had collapsed) in which to insert an IV drip. Throughout the trauma, Paul was completely coherent, and at no time did he display false heroics by talking of going on with the contest. It was his decision to be taken to the local hospital, to which he was ferried to at 1:25pm (with the prejudging in progress). He was released after three hours, and later appeared at the night show to tell the


Backstage waiting for paramedics.

audience how disappointed he was that he couldn't finish the contest, and flexing his mighty biceps added that when, “I return next year I will look disgusting!” (Only in bodybuilding are such statements looked upon with anticipatory approval.)

 In my original report of the incident, I wrote: "It can be argued that whatever torment Paul Dillett had endured, he inflicted it upon himself. (As well as his physical discomfort, there is the fiscal pain of the potential $90,000 winner's check that could well have been his as before his collapse he was pushing eventual winner Kevin Levrone and runner-up Vince Taylor all in the way.) But during the last two years, there has been a succession of bodybuilding


Even in silhouette Paul Dillett presented one hell of a physique.

casualties of varying degrees due to the demon of excessive water depletion. In the hunger for glory, competitors are willing to up the ante to any level in pursuit of first place. It seems the groundswell of pushing athletes to ever more arid levels is growing alarmingly.”

 The truth is that as the Arnold Classic throng watched Dillett’s gyrations just about everyone present was mindful that less than 18 months previously Momo Benaziza had died hours after the Dutch Grand Prix due to a heart attack brought on by severe dehydration of the type they saw on display in Columbus. And that in the past year Mike Matarazzo and Edgar Fletcher had visited death’s door in pursuit of ultimate dryness.




Good old John Romano was responsible for King Paul's Frozen act.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: njflex on March 16, 2015, 06:12:15 AM
LOl, in the AC movie that ND posted the judges and Arnold were highlighting Porter Cotrell's distended belly.
IF I RECALL porter blamed it on 'raisins'freaking raisins...
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 16, 2015, 06:12:26 AM
It wasn't invented back then.

X2

Gotta love dipshits who try and act like they are  "Insiders", and they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: SquidVicious on March 16, 2015, 07:00:16 AM
You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s.  ::)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3631283&d=1313536846)
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 16, 2015, 07:01:03 AM
still one of the worst back double bi's ever



Still a better bodybuilder than Phill though .


WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: simon on March 16, 2015, 07:11:49 AM
You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s.  ::)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3631283&d=1313536846)

that pic is about 4 years prior to Chris Clarks original synthol.  Esiclene was still available and 1000% more effective so there was no need for it to be invented/formulated yet. 
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: BB on March 16, 2015, 07:29:22 AM
It wasn't invented back then.

Indeed, the earliest online reference I could find for it was early 96, with the bulk of the talk starting in late 96, when Clark introduces Pump and Pose. Even if we allow for some time for it to pass up the gym grapevine, early 94 would've probably too early. Any oddness would probably be Esiclene and/or site injections.

Clark, the inventor of Synthol speakers about it at about the 4 minute in -

.

The stickey wicket here is Hoeberl, Clark mentions him using some sort of oil other than Synthol, that was available in Germany in the 90's -

(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=155&stc=1&d=1184345169).

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365370.0;attach=401299;image).

(http://blog.bodybuilding.sg/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bicep-Manfred-Hoeberl.jpg).

He was around and did have those odd arms in the early 90's.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: TestDummy on March 16, 2015, 07:40:55 AM
I remember reading an article about this that Dillet wrote inMD, he said he took so much diuretics he was pissing for 20 minutes straight in his hotel room before the show
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 07:42:18 AM
that pic is about 4 years prior to Chris Clarks original synthol.  Esiclene was still available and 1000% more effective so there was no need for it to be invented/formulated yet. 

Esicline caused mild inflammation - how is that more effective than synthol?
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: illuminati on March 16, 2015, 07:54:55 AM
Indeed, the earliest online reference I could find for it was early 96, with the bulk of the talk starting in late 96, when Clark introduces Pump and Pose. Even if we allow for some time for it to pass up the gym grapevine, early 94 would've probably too early. Any oddness would probably be Esiclene and/or site injections.

Clark, the inventor of Synthol speakers about it at about the 4 minute in -

.

The stickey wicket here is Hoeberl, Clark mentions him using some sort of oil other than Synthol, that was available in Germany in the 90's -

(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=155&stc=1&d=1184345169).

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365370.0;attach=401299;image).

(http://blog.bodybuilding.sg/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/bicep-Manfred-Hoeberl.jpg).

He was around and did have those odd arms in the early 90's.















This x2. What was Manfred injecting.
It didn't appear to harm his strength or more surprisingly
Cause muscle tears.
Considering he was doing the strongman events..  :o
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: _aj_ on March 16, 2015, 08:03:15 AM
Diuretics...cue the autopsy pic of Muntzer.

I think that somebody said it ITT or in another thread that maybe the "glazed donut" look that seems to be the norm in today's AAS+GH+slin BB contests is mildly more healthy than the over-depleted/diuretic look of the 80's/90's.

It doesn't take away from the fact that BB is not a sport of health. Not at all.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: ritch on March 16, 2015, 08:10:09 AM
Also, Manfred did not abuse the shit like the dudes today. He had muscle before using it and used it to enhance his base.

Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: simon on March 16, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
Esicline caused mild inflammation - how is that more effective than synthol?

Esiclene did not blur definition and often enhanced it.  Synthol not so much.  I used Chris Clark original synthol back then
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 08:29:43 AM
Esiclene did not blur definition and often enhanced it.  Synthol not so much.  I used Chris Clark original synthol back then

Gotcha,  from that standpoint I completely get it.  From a size context, I'm guessing it's different?
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmikecox on March 16, 2015, 08:33:21 AM
Paul was going to DESTROY Kevin that year!!!
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 16, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
Guys were using oil before synthol...Some of these bozo's would take a 100ml bottle and put 50ml's of Esicline and 50mls of assorted oil(MCT, grapeseed, cottonseed ect) and shoot in the muscle. Usually arms and calves...The dude Clark who came up with Pump-n-pose didn't pull the idea out of thin air. He just made a product he knew would work and sell because he knew what guys were already doing...The first year Pump-n-pose came out, Jay Cutler allegedly was using as much as 100ml a month...Shooting oil goes back as far as the 70's.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 09:15:44 AM
Also, Manfred did not abuse the shit like the dudes today. He had muscle before using it and used it to enhance his base.


There was an interview of Manfred back in the 90s. The female writer had felt his arms---as he did a biceps pose. She had said that the bicep was not as firm as Robby Robinson's. Manfred was trying to save face.

I remember his book "10 minutes to Massive Arms"...and the cover having his arms, with smooth triceps.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
Guys were using oil before synthol...Some of these bozo's would take a 100ml bottle and put 50ml's of Esicline and 50mls of assorted oil(MCT, grapeseed, cottonseed ect) and shoot in the muscle. Usually arms and calves...The dude Clark who came up with Pump-n-pose didn't pull the idea out of thin air. He just made a product he knew would work and sell because he knew what guys were already doing...The first year Pump-n-pose came out, Jay Cutler allegedly was using as much as 100ml a month...Shooting oil goes back as far as the 70's.
I believe in an interview Clark had said that Flex was interested in it.
Jay Cutler won his pro card in 96. And even as a NPC competitor his arms, delts have always looked the same. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying whatever he did it didn't change his look.

You guys are right. Greg Valentino was the only bodybuilder with access to oil in the 90s.  ::)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3631283&d=1313536846)
Gregg Valentino was mid 2000s.
Paul Dillett was West Coast. Esiclene was big with the West Coast boys (Flex and company) and Kevin Levrone.
From what was told on here, the supply started to dry up because several Pros were buying up or using almost all the product on the market. I don't know the full the story or if that was true or not.

What is true, is that Dillett eventually had shoulder issues, and had several operations. He mentioned in an interview that the doctors said that he literally had no more cartilage left, it was bone on bone.
This possibly means that he had ground down his cartilage? Which would point to him actually training shoulders. It doesn't mean he didn't shoot up his delts. But, it does point to someone who trains shoulders more than relying on foreign substances.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Ronnie Rep on March 16, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
I remember reading an article about this that Dillet wrote inMD, he said he took so much diuretics he was pissing for 20 minutes straight in his hotel room before the show
Yes it was Romano that gave him the lasix. It was verified by Peter Mcgough and Shawn Ray.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 10:25:27 AM

What is true, is that Dillett eventually had shoulder issues, and had several operations. He mentioned in an interview that the doctors said that he literally had no more cartilage left, it was bone on bone.
This possibly means that he had ground down his cartilage? Which would point to him actually training shoulders. It doesn't mean he didn't shoot up his delts. But, it does point to someone who trains shoulders more than relying on foreign substances.

I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Ronnie Rep on March 16, 2015, 10:42:22 AM
I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.
I did the same thing from years of mainly doing forced reps on the bench many years ago. Hence the name "Ronnie Rep". I got tendinitis so bad in my right shoulder, I pretty much stopped training for over a year to let it heal.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
I hear your point, but it just could be genetic.

I had the same condition in both shoulders, and am recovering from getting the other one fixed.  I did abuse my shoulders with presses and benching, but the doc said this could just be a degenerative condition.
Probably that as well.

Yes it was Romano that gave him the lasix. It was verified by Peter Mcgough and Shawn Ray.
Romano effs up everything he touches or gives to people. He could give a pet rock to someone and it would end up making them sick.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Ronnie Rep on March 16, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
I found a video from the contest but they're obviously not going to show that but fuck that noise , they show him in the prejudging and he doesn't even look all that lean & hard either

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/171af2b0ccdf7c64d72d/arnold-classic-1994



In the hours preceding the 1994 Arnold Classic prejudging on March 5th, heavily favored Paul Dillett--in pursuit of being drier than the Sahara in July -- was experiencing severe bouts of cramping. It later transpired that he had overdone one of the diuretics of choice of that era, which would set in motion a time bomb that would implode later in the day.


Early in the prejudging Paul went into a spasm around his obliques.

The 270-pounder's outward confidence as he walked onstage for the prejudging at 11:55am belied the acute discomfort he was undergoing. At 12:29pm, during the last callout of the symmetry round (the other two protagonists being Vince Taylor and Kevin Levrone), Dillett, with his back to the judging panel, tried to hit an impromptu double biceps pose. He raised his left arm and then locked it above his head as the oblique muscles on his left side went into a horrendous spasm. Unable to flex or lower his arm, Dillett lurched from the stage and slumped onto his back on a table in the recesses of the theater. Very soon, the stricken athlete was surrounded by a well-meaning group, among them a noncompeting Flex Wheeler who advised instant fluid intake. Dillett assured everyone that he was all right. "I'm not delirious or anything, you know," he said. "It's just a muscle spasm."

 A full 25 minutes elapsed before Dillett walked onstage again to execute his individual compulsories. His reappearance was greeted by tremendous applause and all hoped the crisis point had passed. With some difficulty, he completed his front double-biceps, front-lat and side-chest poses. Then, as he went into a back double-biceps pose, the 4,000 attendees gasped in


Later he totally collapsed and had to be carried unceremoniously offstage.

horror as the distressing scene they had witnessed 25 minutes earlier was repeated. Dillett grimaced and half screamed, "Oh, God!" (more in despair than pain) as a backstage marshal rushed to his aid. He still had his back to the audience as the marshal positioned himself to face Canada's biggest export since John Candy went Hollywood. Without anyone calling “Timber!” Paul took this as his cue to slump forward into the arms of the marshal, who was about six or seven inches shorter than the man he now fought to support. Three more marshals poured onstage and each grabbed a mighty Dillett limb and lifted him up. Unfortunately, he was facing downward, marooned in an ugly tableau of head-to-toe cramps that rendered him rigidly immobile. In this ungainly mode, Dillett's 270-pound physique was awkwardly lugged offstage. As an exit, the scene sort of lacked the grace and poise of the Pope being carried around St. Peter's Square in a sedan chair.

 NOT A DRY THIGH IN THE HOUSE

Stretched out behind the stage curtain, Paul was attended to by paramedics, who, with great difficulty, found a vein (Dillett was so dehydrated, all his surface veins had collapsed) in which to insert an IV drip. Throughout the trauma, Paul was completely coherent, and at no time did he display false heroics by talking of going on with the contest. It was his decision to be taken to the local hospital, to which he was ferried to at 1:25pm (with the prejudging in progress). He was released after three hours, and later appeared at the night show to tell the


Backstage waiting for paramedics.

audience how disappointed he was that he couldn't finish the contest, and flexing his mighty biceps added that when, “I return next year I will look disgusting!” (Only in bodybuilding are such statements looked upon with anticipatory approval.)

 In my original report of the incident, I wrote: "It can be argued that whatever torment Paul Dillett had endured, he inflicted it upon himself. (As well as his physical discomfort, there is the fiscal pain of the potential $90,000 winner's check that could well have been his as before his collapse he was pushing eventual winner Kevin Levrone and runner-up Vince Taylor all in the way.) But during the last two years, there has been a succession of bodybuilding


Even in silhouette Paul Dillett presented one hell of a physique.

casualties of varying degrees due to the demon of excessive water depletion. In the hunger for glory, competitors are willing to up the ante to any level in pursuit of first place. It seems the groundswell of pushing athletes to ever more arid levels is growing alarmingly.”

 The truth is that as the Arnold Classic throng watched Dillett’s gyrations just about everyone present was mindful that less than 18 months previously Momo Benaziza had died hours after the Dutch Grand Prix due to a heart attack brought on by severe dehydration of the type they saw on display in Columbus. And that in the past year Mike Matarazzo and Edgar Fletcher had visited death’s door in pursuit of ultimate dryness.




Look at Dillett's left arm in that shot. Just insane.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Papper on March 16, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Wait a minute,,, These guys look way better than the guys today? How is that possible
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: MAXX on March 16, 2015, 02:38:08 PM














This x2. What was Manfred injecting.
It didn't appear to harm his strength or more surprisingly
Cause muscle tears.
Considering he was doing the strongman events..  :o

he did tear his bicep later in his "career"



3:34 you can see him flexing his torn bicep. Proximal bicep rupture aka popeye tear.
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 16, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
Why couldn't the fucker pose?
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: SquidVicious on March 16, 2015, 06:47:22 PM
You've got to be a retard to look at that comparison pic of Dillett, Ray and Levrone and not know with 100% certainty that Dillett has a half gallon of oil in his rear delt. How else do you explain this 'muscle' being about 5-6 times larger than both Ray and Levrone? Or did he just know one of the secret Weider principles? It looks exactly like Valentino's phony rear delts.
(http://static.neatorama.com/images/2006-02/greg-valentino.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3631283&d=1313536846)
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 16, 2015, 06:54:45 PM
You've got to be a retard to look at that comparison pic of Dillett, Ray and Levrone and not know with 100% certainty that Dillett has a half gallon of oil in his rear delt. How else do you explain this 'muscle' being about 5-6 times larger than both Ray and Levrone? Or did he just know one of the secret Weider principles? It looks exactly like Valentino's phony rear delts.
you got to be blind not to see that Dillett is smooth throughout his whole back---quads included.

How to explain how Dillett's muscles are 5-6 times bigger than Ray's or Levrone's? Well, not 5-6 times bigger than Levrone, but Ray is 205 listed at 5'7, but really 5'6, and Dillett is 270, and 6'1. So that accounts for something.

When Dillett was dry you saw it. Dude is smooth as hell. And no, his delts don't look like Gregg's. I don't even think Flex in his latter years looks had Gregg's look.
A hallmark of the "oil" look, like Flex had, was the look of bee sting full round delts. Dillett didn't have that. And he had slump shoulders---like Arnold.
In the pic, you there is separation between each head (left side)...but he is smooth throughout his back region.
Large traps, back detail stops upper mid back.
Smooth, all up and down
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3631283&d=1313536846)
Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 27, 2016, 06:34:01 PM
Bump for a insider's view. Milos Sarcev describes exactly what happened that fateful night

Milos comments: When Dillet froze onstage !!!

Paul Dillet is my friend and I am sure he wouldn't mind my interpretation of what happened.
I believe that accident happened 1994 or 1995 in Ohio at Arnold Classic.
Paul was one of the favorites and he looked great day before and morning of the show.
During the first round it was apparent that show is going to be between Paul and Kevin.
Paul was dry to the bone and in all honesty -best I have ever seen him.

Second round started and it was turn for Paul to do 7 mandatory poses.
In his first pose front double biceps he looked great with exception that his eyes looked like a slot machine. I was just waiting for cherries to pop out.
Next was lat spread and as everyone knows Paul is a master of making his lats disappear in this one.
Side chest was excellent and audience went wild.
Than he turned around and show really begun.
He extended one leg showing a calf (normal thing to do) and than he raised one arm (left one). He started waving and I thought I was in all Western movie witnessing cowboy saying goodbye to the girl that is on the train.
Audience was patiently waiting wondering what the hell was he really doing UNTIL he turned around and everyone could see painful grimace on his face.
There he was standing, locked up with one arm up, stomach protruded due to severe cramp, eyes closed, screaming...
Four people had to carried him off the stage.

Later I spoke to him and he told me about that unforgettable experience.
He said he was taking several diuretics and he did not know when to stop.
I know how Paul is, and I can tell you that he probably took about half dozen of different diuretics toping everything off with injectable lasix on the day of the show!
After first round he was point ahead of Kevin, thinking where is he going to spend $90000.00!


Title: Re: Paul Dillet FROZEN on-stage 1994 Arnold Classic
Post by: Royalty on August 28, 2016, 01:45:46 AM
Bump for a insider's view. Milos Sarcev describes exactly what happened that fateful night

Milos comments: When Dillet froze onstage !!!

Paul Dillet is my friend and I am sure he wouldn't mind my interpretation of what happened.
I believe that accident happened 1994 or 1995 in Ohio at Arnold Classic.
Paul was one of the favorites and he looked great day before and morning of the show.
During the first round it was apparent that show is going to be between Paul and Kevin.
Paul was dry to the bone and in all honesty -best I have ever seen him.

Second round started and it was turn for Paul to do 7 mandatory poses.
In his first pose front double biceps he looked great with exception that his eyes looked like a slot machine. I was just waiting for cherries to pop out.
Next was lat spread and as everyone knows Paul is a master of making his lats disappear in this one.
Side chest was excellent and audience went wild.
Than he turned around and show really begun.
He extended one leg showing a calf (normal thing to do) and than he raised one arm (left one). He started waving and I thought I was in all Western movie witnessing cowboy saying goodbye to the girl that is on the train.
Audience was patiently waiting wondering what the hell was he really doing UNTIL he turned around and everyone could see painful grimace on his face.
There he was standing, locked up with one arm up, stomach protruded due to severe cramp, eyes closed, screaming...
Four people had to carried him off the stage.

Later I spoke to him and he told me about that unforgettable experience.
He said he was taking several diuretics and he did not know when to stop.
I know how Paul is, and I can tell you that he probably took about half dozen of different diuretics toping everything off with injectable lasix on the day of the show!
After first round he was point ahead of Kevin, thinking where is he going to spend $90000.00!




Paul's eyes looked like a "slot machine". What a friggin weirdo.

I remember watching the 1996 ASC and thinking the same thing. His eyes were bouncing around, and his eye lids were blinking very oddly.