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Title: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 07:57:29 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form. 

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Grape Ape on March 17, 2015, 07:59:16 AM
The blob just PMd me and asked me to tell you to fuck off.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SuperTed on March 17, 2015, 08:00:23 AM
They usually just tend to resemble a hybrid of several or so animals.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 17, 2015, 08:10:05 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form. 

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....

Humans cant creat any shit they havent seen before. Everything they create is a mix of shit they have seen!

This is truth! Pretty easy!
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 08:13:41 AM
Our imagination is very limited. Only a few could be creative and this is what people ignore. To put something new or original is pretty impossible, even to the creative minds, and we all use what we seen, heard, before to create something new or original.

As for the ET I think it has to do something with the evolution theory. The old human species had huge jaws and small forehead and now modern homo sapiens has smaller jaws then to take this evolution to some extent, aliens will have small jaws but big forehead which has something to do with intelligence. Many aliens interpretation are outside of the box and looks different than the human form but just like a mix with other lives forms on earth ( Scorpions/ snakes/ insects). It's just hard to create something really new.

Homo erectus
(http://www.mboaconnect.com/sites/default/files/field/image/kidder_homo_erectus_large.jpg)
(http://sciencepenguin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/homo-erectus_459008-681x1024.jpg)

Homo sapiens
(http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Prehistoric_Art/San_Bushman.jpg)

Homo aliens
(http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/image-files/alienheadn.jpg)

( no homo )
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 17, 2015, 08:13:53 AM
And if someone create stuff humans haven't seen before, they wont understand that shit anyways. They can just understand stuff they have experience of...

Easy test: Try to draw a vehicle that doesn't look like train, car, airplan and anything else u have seen before! U cant!
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 08:18:10 AM
And if someone create stuff humans haven't seen before, they wont understand that shit anyways. They can just understand stuff they have experience of...

Easy test: Try to draw a vehicle that doesn't look like train, car, airplan and anything else u have seen before! U cant!
That's exactly what I wanted to add. If I draw something like new ( doesn't ressemble human form or anything in this living) and tell them this is how alien creatures looks like they will not accept it.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Archer77 on March 17, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
I guess the assumption is that in order to manipulate technology an alien would have to have a similar basic body design as humans-opposable thumbs being one aspect.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 08:25:43 AM
I found some weird shit about our ancestors.
(http://shadowness.com/file/item3/57757/image_t6.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/168g67a.jpg)
(http://shadowness.com/file/item3/57758/image_t6.jpg)
First selfie attempt
(http://shadowness.com/file/item2/40581/image_t6.jpg)
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 08:27:42 AM
I found some weird shit about our ancestors.
(http://shadowness.com/file/item3/57757/image_t6.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/168g67a.jpg)
(http://shadowness.com/file/item3/57758/image_t6.jpg)
First selfie attempt
(http://shadowness.com/file/item2/40581/image_t6.jpg)


What do photos of Wiggs have to do with this topic?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 08:34:14 AM
It explains how aliens looks like. Designing aliens like they are doesn't come from nowhere but from evolution theory. In fact our specie had big jaws and small forehead but with time we seems to losing the jaw for the forehead and at the end we will end up like this. Probably without facial hair too.
(http://www.buzzle.com/images/conceptual/aliens-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 08:46:25 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form.  

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....

That's because we are very self-centered in our entertainment. Given the makeup of the universe as far as we know it, the most realistic form of life would probably be a gaseous cloud that has achieved some amount of sentience. That they haven't tried to contact us is probably a function of the fact that they don't even recognize our stupid alien form and think that we are quickly moving space rocks.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 08:53:32 AM
I think some intelligent form sent us, with animals, to this shitty place called earth because we were so violent, so stupid and we couldn't fit there.

“This is a war universe. War all the time. That is its nature. There may be other universes based on all sorts of other principles, but ours seems to be based on war and games. All games are basically hostile. Winners and losers. We see them all around us: the winners and the losers. The losers can oftentimes become winners, and the winners can very easily become losers. ”

― William S. Burroughs
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Ugly on March 17, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form. 

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....

Neil Tyson addressed this. For these reasons, he thought The Blob was probably the best alien Hollywood ever created.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Ugly on March 17, 2015, 09:22:36 AM
The blob just PMd me and asked me to tell you to fuck off.

Shit, sorry. Didn't read past first post.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Waller on March 17, 2015, 09:29:36 AM
As far as movies go I'd say it was more about technical limitations. For the majority of movie making times there has been no fancy cgi, so monsters or aliens were limited to what they could make of a costume around a human.

The current trend seems to be more insectoid creatures now they can computer generate things (imo).
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 09:29:59 AM
Didn't the blob eat people?  still had to eat for energy.  More traits that we assume.  It is a form of an ameoba, another thing in nature that we know of.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 17, 2015, 09:31:18 AM
El Diablo Blanco pondering the deep complexities of the universe, like the Great Johnny Falcon.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Natural Man on March 17, 2015, 09:35:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 09:37:39 AM
El Diablo Blanco pondering the deep complexities of the universe, like the Great Johnny Falcon.

THoughts of electricity keeps me up at night.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SuperTed on March 17, 2015, 09:38:29 AM
The vast majority of alien life in the universe is probably very basic (ie. vegetative).
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Archer77 on March 17, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
The vast majority of alien life in the universe is probably very basic (ie. vegetative).

microbial
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 17, 2015, 09:43:42 AM
THoughts of electricity keeps me up at night.

The question is:

How do we combine thoughts of electricity with the limitations of the human mind, specifically as it relates to thinking about monsters.

These are deep questions.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: King Shizzo on March 17, 2015, 09:45:45 AM
Quality thread.

I have always thought that there was no way that the government could keep aliens a secret. They either dont exist, have not cared to make contact, or have the tech to remain completely undetected.

There aint shit the government would be able to do.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: King Shizzo on March 17, 2015, 09:48:00 AM
What if we were able to use more than the 10% of our brain capacity?

Maybe thats the key to everything? The natural evolution into an alien mind.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Archer77 on March 17, 2015, 09:48:48 AM
What if we were able to use more than the 10% of our brain capacity?

Maybe thats the key to everything? The natural evolution into an alien mind.

That's a myth.  The brain doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
That's a myth.  The brain doesn't work that way.

Not true.  Shizzo only uses .10% of his brain's capacity at all times.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Donny on March 17, 2015, 09:51:37 AM
Quality thread.

I have always thought that there was no way that the government could keep aliens a secret. They either dont exist, have not cared to make contact, or have the tech to remain completely undetected.

There aint shit the government would be able to do.
Don´t get me started on Aliens  ;D ...
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Archer77 on March 17, 2015, 09:52:50 AM
Not true.  Shizzo only uses .10% of his brain's capacity at all times.


You're being generous.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Ugly on March 17, 2015, 09:55:07 AM
Space Odyssey and Contact both strayed from the norm - no physical manifestation at all. Evolved into pure figureless intelligence.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 10:28:48 AM
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/30714150.jpg)
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Army of One on March 17, 2015, 11:08:01 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form.  

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....

Well done, I realised this when I was 3.Another shit thread from el sucko decocko
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Man of Steel on March 17, 2015, 11:21:06 AM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form. 

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....

Sure about that LOL?



Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 17, 2015, 11:36:17 AM
What if we were able to use more than the 10% of our brain capacity?

Maybe thats the key to everything? The natural evolution into an alien mind.

The 10% idea is a myth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

But it may not be a myth for you, Shizzo.  ;) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: greeneyes on March 17, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism

I found that this alien thing is purely civilizational related and keeps GOD CONCEPT ALIVE. Nietzsche was right. We killed god but in the same time, a new god was born to replace him. If monotheist religions gave the birth to god as we all know- powerful, make it rains, make it sunny and even get everyone what he deserves - now science killed this god and created a new one as it follow: An intelligent form living far a way, in our universe or in another universe and is more powerful than our specie, superior to us in all meaning and maybe WATCH US and maybe will comes and end our suffering by changing the world and destroying our governments.

Conclusion, humans will never leave spirituality and will believe something more powerful rules the universe. After all maybe it exists. God take new shapes, Uberman. Faith is still there. Sorry but your nihilism thesis related to faith is irrelevant now.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 11:59:28 AM
The 10% idea is a myth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

But it may not be a myth for you, Shizzo.  ;) ;) :D ;D

Damn...you mean that the movie "Lucy" wasn't a documentary?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 17, 2015, 12:03:14 PM
Damn...you mean that the movie "Lucy" wasn't a documentary?

Never seen or heard of it.  ???
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 17, 2015, 01:00:36 PM
Sure about that LOL?





See two eyes.  Features similar to other animals.  We can't think beyond what we see in nature.  Why would an alien have eyes similar to creatures on earth?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: _aj_ on March 17, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
See two eyes.  Features similar to other animals.  We can't think beyond what we see in nature.  Why would an alien have eyes similar to creatures on earth?

Binocular vision. Of course, that means that the "alien" sees the exact same small swath of the electromagnetic spectrum as we do.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Ugly on March 17, 2015, 01:23:21 PM
That's a myth.  The brain doesn't work that way.

Always that was some kinda 'lazy humans' insult. Like if we tried harder, we could engage the other ninety.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 17, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
See two eyes.  Features similar to other animals.  We can't think beyond what we see in nature.  Why would an alien have eyes similar to creatures on earth?

Not to mention that even the tentacles may resemble the appendages of humans (arms). Used to grasp things, etc.

Seems like MOS tried to troll atheists with the spaghetti monster and failed.  ::) :'( :'(
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 17, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
Ever notice that through litterature, movies, paintings etc... That any form of monster or alien is represented as a mutation of a human being?  They usually have two arms, eyes, nose, mouth, head, shoulders etc...  Monsters or Aliens are just humans with some sort of change to their physique.  It seems that the human mind and imagination can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble a human in some form. 

Proof.  Just think of a monster or alien in your head.  It will have a resemblance to a human.  our minds can't think of a creature that doesn't resemble something we already know.

I need to smoke less weed....



(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GUQVP7XD--/17l7h5y944gu1jpg.jpg)

(http://thing.popapostle.com/images/episodes/The-Thing/flower-of-dog-tongues.JPG)

(http://thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/blob-night-fright.jpg)
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: King Shizzo on March 17, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
That's a myth.  The brain doesn't work that way.
Ok, maybe the percentage part is a myth. But what about child geniuses, savants, and other incredibly smart people? Surely they have a different wiring up there. What causes this?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Ugly on March 17, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
Ok, maybe the percentage part is a myth. But what about child geniuses, savants, and other incredibly smart people? Surely they have a different wiring up there. What causes this?

More/better output from same percentage?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 17, 2015, 02:23:42 PM
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2w4mbl1.jpg)
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Never1AShow on March 17, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Star Trek called, they want their Horta back.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 17, 2015, 06:27:56 PM
We a so lucky OBESE Vince is the last 1 of his tribe  ;D
His DNA is dead  ;D
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: forillagorilla on March 17, 2015, 07:43:38 PM
Ok, maybe the percentage part is a myth. But what about child geniuses, savants, and other incredibly smart people? Surely they have a different wiring up there. What causes this?

I can actually hear you breathing through your mouth as you type... Don't hurt yourself Larry (sorry man that sleeveless pic is fucking hilarious - like "the cable guy")
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: mazfit on March 18, 2015, 04:54:53 AM
The vast majority of alien life in the universe is probably very basic (ie. vegetative).

WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY , how can you know that probably.

Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: Natural Man on March 18, 2015, 05:12:00 AM
the laws of physics and biology are the same everywhere in the universe. Everywhere there s water and sunlight, there s probably the same kind of evolution that took place on earth going on. With bacterias, fishes, reptiles, mamals and so on.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SuperTed on March 18, 2015, 05:36:21 AM
WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY , how can you know that probably.



It's most likely. Basic life requires less coincidences to evolve so is likely to be far more prominent across the universe than complex life.
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 18, 2015, 07:54:25 AM


(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GUQVP7XD--/17l7h5y944gu1jpg.jpg)

(http://thing.popapostle.com/images/episodes/The-Thing/flower-of-dog-tongues.JPG)

(http://thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/blob-night-fright.jpg)

First one looks like a cobra, second has human features, a head, shoulders etc... the third needs to eat to survive.  Why is anyone so sure that an Alien life form needs to eat?
Title: Re: The limitation of the human mind
Post by: SF1900 on March 18, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Ok, maybe the percentage part is a myth. But what about child geniuses, savants, and other incredibly smart people? Surely they have a different wiring up there. What causes this?

Genetics.