Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ether on March 22, 2015, 06:43:50 PM
-
For immediate release....
http://centopani.com/prime-nutrition-and-evan-centopani-part-ways/
That lasted long
;D
Over the course of my career as a professional bodybuilder, I’ve worked with relatively few companies. Fortunately, I have been able to learn a great deal and benefit tremendously from each of those relationships. I’m thankful to be able to say the same about my relationship with Prime Nutrition. My time spent working with Prime has taught me a great deal and has also reinforced that which I already knew regarding the supplement industry and my place in it. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Prime Nutrition for their support and for including me as part of their company; I sincerely appreciate it. Prime has taken a unique approach to growing their brand that has proven effective and I have no doubt that they will continue to grow rapidly. I wish Prime all the best.
-
Wonder what happened there? He was there for 5-6 months?
-
LoL
10th place at the weak arnolds this year was embarrassing enough, now fired by a 3rd rate supplement company
-
LoL
10th place at the weak arnolds this year was embarrassing enough, no fired for a 3rd rate supplement company
Who fired who?
-
Its baffling why guys like him keep competing and competing. I mean, I know its their life or whatever, but why put yourself through all that for a 10th place trophy? Living the dream, I guess!!
-
I'm not surprised
-
Very coded message from Evan there
Not sure what he is getting at
-
Say what you want about Evan's physique, but he strikes me as one of the only top pros that has maintained some semblance of normalcy in terms of his personality, demeanor and general outlook on life.
His relationship with Prime was odd to say the least. PJ & Aaron seem to be everything that Evan is not...flashy, egotistical, snake-oil salesmen.
-
Its baffling why guys like him keep competing and competing. I mean, I know its their life or whatever, but why put yourself through all that for a 10th place trophy? Living the dream, I guess!!
Good question. Maybe it's one of those cases where that's all you know at this point in your life and can't figure your way out.
-
Good question. Maybe it's one of those cases where that's all you know at this point in your life and can't figure your way out.
Do most people consider him an also-ran at this point? I mean, he doesn't look like Ben Pakulski or Palumbo.
-
Spoke with Aaron and there's nothing but love for Evan and his work ethic, he's a good guy, and they wish him well. That's pretty much it on the matter. Don't expect any RX Muscle style fireworks. BTW, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Arnold since Evan after all finished in the Top 5.
-
10th place at the weak arnolds this year was embarrassing enough
He was 5th you dumbass
-
So what's the reason for his departure ?
-
Evan refused to dance in a white towel for them.
-
new endeavours...that needs some explaining.
-
Spoke with Aaron and there's nothing but love for Evan and his work ethic, he's a good guy, and they wish him well. That's pretty much it on the matter. Don't expect any RX Muscle style fireworks. BTW, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Arnold since Evan after all finished in the Top 5.
Basically a useless post as always
Translation: Vince emailed, instagram and Facebook messages everyone in the "industry" and got no reply so that is his interpretation of things.
Reality: Centopani dropped Prime because he doesn't believe in any of their products. Including all the "MD" bullshit formulations
-
Spoke with Aaron and there's nothing but love for Evan and his work ethic, he's a good guy, and they wish him well. That's pretty much it on the matter. Don't expect any RX Muscle style fireworks. BTW, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Arnold since Evan after all finished in the Top 5.
vince may I ask
What is your exact position in the company or how are u affiliated with the company?
-
I'll give you the truth, unlike Vince who acts like he actually knows.
Several things led to this, for one Evan realized that these guys are shady, most people already knew that but Evan gave them the benefit of the doubt since he is friends with PJ. He doesn't fit their brand, selling pro hormones, being flashy, using the T & A to sell, etc. That is why you didn't see Evan promoting Prime all that much, he didn't want to be associated with that.
The biggest reason is that Prime took out a big loan to pay Evan and now the loan is up. Aaron and PJ are too busy driving fancy cars instead of reinvesting in the business or the athletes. They are buying fancy massage chairs though. Funny if you remember Prime claimed to sign Evan to a 5 year deal when it first happened.
The problem with Prime is that PJ and Aaron want to be in the spotlight, they want the brand to be about them and that is not good for them as they are shady characters but with big egos.
John Meadows is leaving next, you heard it here first from the Insider.
-
Basically a useless post as always
Translation: Vince emailed, instagram and Facebook messages everyone in the "industry" and got no reply so that is his interpretation of things.
Reality: Centopani dropped Prime because he doesn't believe in any of their products. Including all the "MD" bullshit formulations
I asked the question on behalf of the Getbig Nation and that is the answer I got. I have no reason to bullshit anyone....everyone knows that
-
I'll give you the truth, unlike Vince who acts like he actually knows.
Several things led to this, for one Evan realized that these guys are shady, most people already knew that but Evan gave them the benefit of the doubt since he is friends with PJ. He doesn't fit their brand, selling pro hormones, being flashy, using the T & A to sell, etc. That is why you didn't see Evan promoting Prime all that much, he didn't want to be associated with that.
The biggest reason is that Prime took out a big loan to pay Evan and now the loan is up. Aaron and PJ are too busy driving fancy cars instead of reinvesting in the business or the athletes. They are buying fancy massage chairs though. Funny if you remember Prime claimed to sign Evan to a 5 year deal when it first happened.
The problem with Prime is that PJ and Aaron want to be in the spotlight, they want the brand to be about them and that is not good for them as they are shady characters but with big egos.
John Meadows is leaving next, you heard it here first from the Insider.
They can buy fancy massage chairs, exotic cars, and fly around the world because they have the money and the business is global. You are right only on the fact that it is just about Aaron & PJ. Its their business, they took the risks (which I considered highly reckless at the time) and it paid off big time.
And now, its my time.
-
He was 5th you dumbass
::)
5th , 10th 20th
Whats the difference in that lineup for evan
-
::)
5th , 10th 20th
Whats the difference in that lineup for evan
I already stated that it had nothing to do with the Arnold.....read article below
Evan Centopani and Prime Nutrition parted ways following the Arnold Classic weekend in Columbus, Ohio, ending a short 8 month business relationship. Last July, Centopani joined Prime Nutrition when he opted to not re-sign with his long time sponsor Universal Nutrition, but instead join forces with his close friends and owners of Prime, Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun. Due to Centopani and Braun’s friendship, many people online speculated that Evan had likely been offered an ownership stake within the company to secure the blockbuster signing. In the press release last year, neither side made any proclamation that a partnership was included in the structuring of the deal, however, it was made very clear that Evan would be used in a much larger capacity beyond an endorsed athlete. He would be called upon to formulate products and be directly involved with the decision making on the business as a whole.
Ok, so that’s the very open and public side of the story, but you’re reading this for the inside scoop. I’ve kept a close eye on the Centopani/Prime Nutrition signing since it took place last year. On the surface it seemed like such a great idea. Nobody understands social media marketing, the bodybuilding industry as a whole, and captivating fans better than Aaron and PJ. Then again, Centopani has an equally large following (perhaps even bigger), but done so in a manner that is essentially proprietary. To try and duplicate what he’s done is next to impossible. He came into bodybuilding as a wholesome boy from the northeast, still living with his family well into his 20’s, as many Italian young men do (although I find incredibly strange). Turning pro in 2007, Evan took nearly 2 years off until his pro debut (which he won), and followed that up with another 2 year hibernation before he took the stage again, and won, beating Dexter Jackson in the process. However, Centopani has been on cruise control since then falling in the pro ranks and making virtually no physical progress since his 2009 IFBB debut.
How can that be? Well, part of what makes Evan an underground cult-phenomenon are his holistic and often times eccentric views on life that contradict not only the bodybuilding industry, but American culture as a whole. If you know the story by now try not to skip ahead. Evan’s father was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, taking what might have seemed like a healthy obsession with alternative living and put a jet propulsion rocket on his back. Organic foods and grounding pads turned into glassware and at home vegetable gardens. His approach towards pro bodybuilding started to look less like his mentors Dave Palumbo and Oscar Ardon had intended and more like Suzanne Somers and Tom Cruise (but less glib). Why does this matter with Evan’s sponsorship with Aaron and PJ?
If there’s one thing I know about Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun is that they trust their instincts, but are very well-calculated in what they do. Very rarely do they act on things out of emotion or stumble upon success on blind luck. One business exercise I know they’ve practiced has been to ask themselves, “If money was no object, what bodybuilder would you sign to the brand?” And Evan’s name was always at the top of the list and for many obvious reasons. He’s well liked in the industry. He’s a critical thinker. And it never hurts to work side-by-side with friends. But alas, here’s the crux in the relationship between Aaron/PJ and Evan. What makes Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun very successful businessman is their innate ability multi-task. They juggle multiple companies almost seamlessly and never seem rattled (at least in public). Evan, well, he’s a bodybuilder: Eat, sleep, train, repeat. Sure, he balances his family and travel (at his chagrin) and has plenty on his plate, but certainly not at the level of his two former bosses.
Having once been employed by Aaron and PJ they can be quite demanding at times. But that’s to be expected by their employees, especially those with integral roles within the company. Because there are many moving parts at Prime Nutrition (along with their other business holdings) they do not micromanage their employees, however, with that freedom comes responsibility. And part of that responsibility lays in understanding what it means to be a team player. The brand of the company is more important than the personal brand each employee (famous or not) carries along with them.
Evan was tasked to help formulate many of the new products that would be hitting the shelves at retail stores across the world; but so was John Meadows. And while this responsibility is incredibly important in not only making sure the consumer receives an elite product, but as we’ve seen from the Intra-MD product, it literally has the man’s name stamped on the label. Now, having said that, understanding business is paramount in having a seat at the boardroom. If Aaron or PJ task Centopani with the duty of formulating his own mulit-vitamin/mineral supplement and he returns to them with a list of ingredients that will cost $79.99 at the wholesale level, nobody in their right mind will be willing to shell out $150 at the retail cost for a 30 day supply, no matter how much Evan Centopani believes in it.
Prime Nutrition is not a sponsor of Project Bodybuilding. And while PJ and Aaron are two of my friends, as of writing this article, they’re not contributing to my site via Prime Nutrition, which is why I feel my unbiased opinion counts. One great thing about Prime Nutrition is that they don’t hide behind prop blends. They use top notch ingredients and doses that actually work. This is a brand I could stand behind and promote. And maybe one day they’ll be part of the great lineup of advertisers already reaping the benefits of Projectbodybuilding.com
As an observer of all things bodybuilding, I was the first to point out that Evan was doing virtually no promotion for Prime Nutrition. He made some early videos towards the end of summer last year (very well produced I might add), but that concluded the coverage. And I couldn’t help but notice he wasn’t doing much on the Muscular Development website either. Of course, we all came to learn that Steve Blechman had been dropping athletes left and right, and even the golden boy wasn’t safe from the firing squad. While the MD cronies ducked and dodged the criticism, even now, no deal has been agreed upon. But during all of this drama and turmoil, we did see the launch of Centopani.com. His personal website with nutrition and training tips scattered throughout. Now while I think it’s great for personal branding and self-promotion, it’s only acceptable once all of your commitments are fulfilled with your paying sponsors.
Once Centopani realized his product formulations might not be delivered upon, I could sense the relationship was in shambles. After all, that’s what he prided himself on. He was more than just an athlete who did videos and posed on stage. And now his ideas weren’t being utilized. Unfortunately for Evan and many people in the supplement industry, ideas, formulations, and products are one thing and making them fit inside a business and marketing plan is another.
You would have to be blind to not recognize Evan’s poor promotion of Prime Nutrition. First and foremost, he’s not a social media fan. Back when I first met him I asked him what Facebook account he used and said he didn’t have one. And if I ever saw one with his name on it, it was a fake account. Since then, he’s found his way to Instagram, but beyond the occasional post or visit to a website that no longer thinks he’s worthy of a long term contract (MD) he’s not easy to find online. And let’s not forget, he’s a homebody that doesn’t like to travel from weekend to weekend on the guest posing circuit. All the while, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention another Aaron/PJ employee, IFBB 212 Pro Aaron Clark; who just happens to work as a sales rep and is on the road throughout the state of Florida every single week talking to store managers and owners trying to get product on the shelves for the company. And for all intents and purposes, Clark is ranked higher than Centopani in their respective divisions.
So there you have it. A bodybuilder with a massive fan base, who doesn’t like to promote. And although he may have great ideas for potential new supplements, in reality most people in bodybuilding are working on beer budgets, not champagne. Do I think Aaron and PJ would have liked to have seen Evan make a bigger splash at the Arnold Classic? Absolutely, but I also don’t think that had any bearing whatsoever in the decision to release him from his contract.
Going forward I think bodybuilders need to understand that the landscape of a sponsorship is not what it used to be. Bodybuilders spend more time on their personal Facebook and Instagram pages than they do promoting their sponsors. Last time I checked, the monthly income is coming from the sponsor and not the FB and IG followers. Muscle Phone (Isaac Hinds) has recently been on a campaign to not only have athletes start thanking their sponsors after winning a show (what a novel idea), but to also encourage athletes to stop thinking of their endorsers as sponsors, but instead as partners. This is undoubtedly what Prime and Evan had in mind, but to take it a step further, we need bodybuilder to start learning how to become businessmen. As great as it is to be an expert technician on social media, most middle-school kids have us all beat. The trouble with many, if not all, bodybuilders is that they often times never grew up. Too many have never held down “real jobs” or saved for retirement or even moved out of their parents basements.
It really is unfortunate that Evan Cenopani and Prime Nutrition weren’t able to sustain their business relationship, but I think it’s fair to assume that if this relationship wasn’t maintainable, than all bodybuilders need to start doing some self-evaluation and take stock of their current situations. The bodybuilding landscape is changing and somebody will be without a chair when the music stops.
-
so this is just your opinion?
or do you know all this from talking with evan and PJ?
i'm confused.....who are you again?
not trying to be rude... just are you a big name in the sport supp side of it? no offence just never heard of you before.
your posts all seem to come from some inside knowledge, but i dont know who you are?
your position in the sport, what relevance do you have, what respect do you have in the sport?
again not trying to sound condesending, just i've never heard of you before.
-
Evan needs to go the route of many of IFBB pros that peaked too early. MMA.
-
This is the worst article I've ever read in my whole life
I already stated that it had nothing to do with the Arnold.....read article below
Evan Centopani and Prime Nutrition parted ways following the Arnold Classic weekend in Columbus, Ohio, ending a short 8 month business relationship. Last July, Centopani joined Prime Nutrition when he opted to not re-sign with his long time sponsor Universal Nutrition, but instead join forces with his close friends and owners of Prime, Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun. Due to Centopani and Braun’s friendship, many people online speculated that Evan had likely been offered an ownership stake within the company to secure the blockbuster signing. In the press release last year, neither side made any proclamation that a partnership was included in the structuring of the deal, however, it was made very clear that Evan would be used in a much larger capacity beyond an endorsed athlete. He would be called upon to formulate products and be directly involved with the decision making on the business as a whole.
Ok, so that’s the very open and public side of the story, but you’re reading this for the inside scoop. I’ve kept a close eye on the Centopani/Prime Nutrition signing since it took place last year. On the surface it seemed like such a great idea. Nobody understands social media marketing, the bodybuilding industry as a whole, and captivating fans better than Aaron and PJ. Then again, Centopani has an equally large following (perhaps even bigger), but done so in a manner that is essentially proprietary. To try and duplicate what he’s done is next to impossible. He came into bodybuilding as a wholesome boy from the northeast, still living with his family well into his 20’s, as many Italian young men do (although I find incredibly strange). Turning pro in 2007, Evan took nearly 2 years off until his pro debut (which he won), and followed that up with another 2 year hibernation before he took the stage again, and won, beating Dexter Jackson in the process. However, Centopani has been on cruise control since then falling in the pro ranks and making virtually no physical progress since his 2009 IFBB debut.
How can that be? Well, part of what makes Evan an underground cult-phenomenon are his holistic and often times eccentric views on life that contradict not only the bodybuilding industry, but American culture as a whole. If you know the story by now try not to skip ahead. Evan’s father was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, taking what might have seemed like a healthy obsession with alternative living and put a jet propulsion rocket on his back. Organic foods and grounding pads turned into glassware and at home vegetable gardens. His approach towards pro bodybuilding started to look less like his mentors Dave Palumbo and Oscar Ardon had intended and more like Suzanne Somers and Tom Cruise (but less glib). Why does this matter with Evan’s sponsorship with Aaron and PJ?
If there’s one thing I know about Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun is that they trust their instincts, but are very well-calculated in what they do. Very rarely do they act on things out of emotion or stumble upon success on blind luck. One business exercise I know they’ve practiced has been to ask themselves, “If money was no object, what bodybuilder would you sign to the brand?” And Evan’s name was always at the top of the list and for many obvious reasons. He’s well liked in the industry. He’s a critical thinker. And it never hurts to work side-by-side with friends. But alas, here’s the crux in the relationship between Aaron/PJ and Evan. What makes Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun very successful businessman is their innate ability multi-task. They juggle multiple companies almost seamlessly and never seem rattled (at least in public). Evan, well, he’s a bodybuilder: Eat, sleep, train, repeat. Sure, he balances his family and travel (at his chagrin) and has plenty on his plate, but certainly not at the level of his two former bosses.
Having once been employed by Aaron and PJ they can be quite demanding at times. But that’s to be expected by their employees, especially those with integral roles within the company. Because there are many moving parts at Prime Nutrition (along with their other business holdings) they do not micromanage their employees, however, with that freedom comes responsibility. And part of that responsibility lays in understanding what it means to be a team player. The brand of the company is more important than the personal brand each employee (famous or not) carries along with them.
Evan was tasked to help formulate many of the new products that would be hitting the shelves at retail stores across the world; but so was John Meadows. And while this responsibility is incredibly important in not only making sure the consumer receives an elite product, but as we’ve seen from the Intra-MD product, it literally has the man’s name stamped on the label. Now, having said that, understanding business is paramount in having a seat at the boardroom. If Aaron or PJ task Centopani with the duty of formulating his own mulit-vitamin/mineral supplement and he returns to them with a list of ingredients that will cost $79.99 at the wholesale level, nobody in their right mind will be willing to shell out $150 at the retail cost for a 30 day supply, no matter how much Evan Centopani believes in it.
Prime Nutrition is not a sponsor of Project Bodybuilding. And while PJ and Aaron are two of my friends, as of writing this article, they’re not contributing to my site via Prime Nutrition, which is why I feel my unbiased opinion counts. One great thing about Prime Nutrition is that they don’t hide behind prop blends. They use top notch ingredients and doses that actually work. This is a brand I could stand behind and promote. And maybe one day they’ll be part of the great lineup of advertisers already reaping the benefits of Projectbodybuilding.com
As an observer of all things bodybuilding, I was the first to point out that Evan was doing virtually no promotion for Prime Nutrition. He made some early videos towards the end of summer last year (very well produced I might add), but that concluded the coverage. And I couldn’t help but notice he wasn’t doing much on the Muscular Development website either. Of course, we all came to learn that Steve Blechman had been dropping athletes left and right, and even the golden boy wasn’t safe from the firing squad. While the MD cronies ducked and dodged the criticism, even now, no deal has been agreed upon. But during all of this drama and turmoil, we did see the launch of Centopani.com. His personal website with nutrition and training tips scattered throughout. Now while I think it’s great for personal branding and self-promotion, it’s only acceptable once all of your commitments are fulfilled with your paying sponsors.
Once Centopani realized his product formulations might not be delivered upon, I could sense the relationship was in shambles. After all, that’s what he prided himself on. He was more than just an athlete who did videos and posed on stage. And now his ideas weren’t being utilized. Unfortunately for Evan and many people in the supplement industry, ideas, formulations, and products are one thing and making them fit inside a business and marketing plan is another.
You would have to be blind to not recognize Evan’s poor promotion of Prime Nutrition. First and foremost, he’s not a social media fan. Back when I first met him I asked him what Facebook account he used and said he didn’t have one. And if I ever saw one with his name on it, it was a fake account. Since then, he’s found his way to Instagram, but beyond the occasional post or visit to a website that no longer thinks he’s worthy of a long term contract (MD) he’s not easy to find online. And let’s not forget, he’s a homebody that doesn’t like to travel from weekend to weekend on the guest posing circuit. All the while, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention another Aaron/PJ employee, IFBB 212 Pro Aaron Clark; who just happens to work as a sales rep and is on the road throughout the state of Florida every single week talking to store managers and owners trying to get product on the shelves for the company. And for all intents and purposes, Clark is ranked higher than Centopani in their respective divisions.
So there you have it. A bodybuilder with a massive fan base, who doesn’t like to promote. And although he may have great ideas for potential new supplements, in reality most people in bodybuilding are working on beer budgets, not champagne. Do I think Aaron and PJ would have liked to have seen Evan make a bigger splash at the Arnold Classic? Absolutely, but I also don’t think that had any bearing whatsoever in the decision to release him from his contract.
Going forward I think bodybuilders need to understand that the landscape of a sponsorship is not what it used to be. Bodybuilders spend more time on their personal Facebook and Instagram pages than they do promoting their sponsors. Last time I checked, the monthly income is coming from the sponsor and not the FB and IG followers. Muscle Phone (Isaac Hinds) has recently been on a campaign to not only have athletes start thanking their sponsors after winning a show (what a novel idea), but to also encourage athletes to stop thinking of their endorsers as sponsors, but instead as partners. This is undoubtedly what Prime and Evan had in mind, but to take it a step further, we need bodybuilder to start learning how to become businessmen. As great as it is to be an expert technician on social media, most middle-school kids have us all beat. The trouble with many, if not all, bodybuilders is that they often times never grew up. Too many have never held down “real jobs” or saved for retirement or even moved out of their parents basements.
It really is unfortunate that Evan Cenopani and Prime Nutrition weren’t able to sustain their business relationship, but I think it’s fair to assume that if this relationship wasn’t maintainable, than all bodybuilders need to start doing some self-evaluation and take stock of their current situations. The bodybuilding landscape is changing and somebody will be without a chair when the music stops.
-
This is the worst article I've ever read in my whole life
I agree....way too negative.
-
I agree....way too negative.
agreed
-
agreed
AGREED.
-
AGREED.
Agreed
-
Agreed
Agreed to Disagree to Agree
-
Agreed to Disagree to Agree
Disagree to disagree.
-
Its baffling why guys like him keep competing and competing. I mean, I know its their life or whatever, but why put yourself through all that for a 10th place trophy? Living the dream, I guess!!
I suspect it's for the same reasons guys spend years competing in the nationals without winning.
Evan C. has made a living from bodybuilding for a few years.
Love him or hate him, that's a cool job, regardless of how many shows he wins.
I sincerely wish I could have experienced being a pro BB and doing it full time.
Sadly, I never got close and had to be content with my Mr Podunk trophy.
-
That article is terrible. That guys is clearly a shill for PJ and Aaron and sounds like he doesn't even know what he is talking about.
Evan didn't promote Prime because he didn't want to be associated with those shady characters, period. Evan has integrity.
-
Personally, I have never seen someone go so far to "not explain a Peaceful obsession". :o
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=563453.50
-
That article is terrible. That guys is clearly a shill for PJ and Aaron and sounds like he doesn't even know what he is talking about.
Evan didn't promote Prime because he didn't want to be associated with those shady characters, period. Evan has integrity.
And probably a splash of this. ;D
-
you no longer need pro bodybuilders to sell supplements , any vegas pool homo or whore can sell the shit out of it on social media , that is what generation nothing wants to look like
-
so wait a minute....you mean to tell me that that intra workout drink for like $60 is not gonna make me look like Dorian Yates. fuck
-
so wait a minute....you mean to tell me that that intra workout drink for like $60 is not gonna make me look like Dorian Yates. fuck
No but you might grow a 3rd testicle and develop a fetish for grapefruit humping???
Just sayin'...ya know this is modern bodybuilding we're talking. ::)
-
Mountain Dog Meadows next to jump ship.
How long before the "athletes" paid in tubs of powder and "stock" in the company finally clue in and jump ship.
On a positive note, maybe Aaron and Pj can go back to RxMuscle.
-
Wonder if universal is going to get him back at half the rate they used to pay him
-
Donald Trump must be preparing a law suit against this thread for the words "you're fired" in the title...
-
Donald Trump must be preparing a law suit against this thread for the words "you're fired" in the title...
He is tacking it on to the mercedez benz lawsuit against Prime Nutrition for using the slogan "the best or nothing"
-
Its baffling why guys like him keep competing and competing. I mean, I know its their life or whatever, but why put yourself through all that for a 10th place trophy? Living the dream, I guess!!
Stepping on stage is a great feeling :)
-
Obviously Matt Meinrod wrote the article who knows all three parties. The bottom line is Aaron and PJ obviously put their business's before everything. Evan not so much, nice guy, good bodybuilder, not a great businessman. Makes for a not so great partnership. Parting is such sweet sorrow.
-
Most people don't last with that company anyway..
-
Most people don't last with that company anyway..
I've only heard of Evan leaving, who else didn't last?
-
Obviously Matt Meinrod wrote the article who knows all three parties. The bottom line is Aaron and PJ obviously put their business's before everything. Evan not so much, nice guy, good bodybuilder, not a great businessman. Makes for a not so great partnership. Parting is such sweet sorrow.
Matt is in bed with Aaron and PJ so your going to get their spin on things.
What Palumbo wrote is the truth
-
I like this Insder cat. Has some good info. His stuff seems more legit and accurate. Blows Goodrum out of the water