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Title: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 04:29:18 PM
Ok......Ted Cruz...born in Canada by his own admission......is he eligible to be president???.......I don't think so.....I'm basing this on the birther's own claims that president Obama was not born on US. soil so therefore should not have been able to be president.......therefor e he should be disqualified from running........birthers awfully quiet on this issue.......I WONDER WHY??????????
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 04:40:01 PM
Nobody cares. 
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Nobody cares. 

translation...... you're a hypocrite
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2015, 05:13:22 PM
Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. His parents were both U.S. citizens who were working in Canada at the time. His mother was born in Delaware and his father immigrated to the U.S. from Cuba. The general consensus is that Mr. Cruz is a natural born citizen. As is the case when U.S. citizens are born in another country, Ted had dual citizenship. He's given up his Canadian citizenship.

I have three grandchildren who have dual citizenship, German and U.S. Only one of them was born in the U.S.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 05:14:41 PM
translation...... you're a hypocrite

O Rly?  What exactly was I preaching about that birther crap? 
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. His parents were both U.S. citizens who were working in Canada at the time. His mother was born in Delaware and his father immigrated to the U.S. from Cuba. The general consensus is that Mr. Cruz is a natural born citizen. As is the case when U.S. citizens are born in another country, Ted had dual citizenship. He's given up his Canadian citizenship.

I have three grandchildren who have dual citizenship, German and U.S. Only one of them was born in the U.S.

Wasn't John McCain in the same boat?
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 05:15:50 PM
Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. His parents were both U.S. citizens who were working in Canada at the time. His mother was born in Delaware and his father immigrated to the U.S. from Cuba. The general consensus is that Mr. Cruz is a natural born citizen. As is the case when U.S. citizens are born in another country, Ted had dual citizenship. He's given up his Canadian citizenship.

I have three grandchildren who have dual citizenship, German and U.S. Only one of them was born in the U.S.

I think his father didn't become a citizen until long after Ted was born
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:19:11 PM
I think his father didn't become a citizen until long after Ted was born

yes...true..only his mother was a citizen at the time..like Obama's mom I guess?
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:20:44 PM
Wasn't John McCain in the same boat?

He was SUPPOSEDLY born in the Panama Canal...which was American property at the time...both his parents were U.S. citizens though
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 05:22:26 PM
let's see the birth certificate  ;D
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
let's see the birth certificate  ;D

Agreed......I want to see where al those conservatives stand on this
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
He was SUPPOSEDLY born in the Panama Canal...which was American property at the time...both his parents were U.S. citizens though

Ok.  How exactly am I a hypocrite?  
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
The only dispute (if any) will be the definition of natural born citizen.

Here the bottom line though on why there are no Birthers

Birthers are bat shit crazy and one party has an abundance of bat shit crazy people an it's not the Dems (we have our share but it's not 40-60% of the party like it is with Repubs)

Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: 24KT on March 23, 2015, 05:27:58 PM
From what I understand,George W. was actually born in Germany, but hey chose to look at it as American territory, in much the same way they avoided a constitutional crisis when Princess Margereta was born in a Canadian hospital in Ottawa during WWII. That wing of the hospital was no longer Canada. Go figure. I'd love to try that on my municipal property taxes.  :P
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:28:15 PM
Ok.  How exactly am I a hypocrite?  

I don't know......I just like calling you names... :D
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:29:58 PM
The only dispute (if any) will be the definition of natural born citizen.

Here the bottom line though on why there are no Birthers

Birthers are bat shit crazy and one party has an abundance of bat shit crazy people an it's not the Dems (we have our share but it's not 40-60% of the party like it is with Repubs)



you know, Straw...that's an excellent point....good job pointing that out.....but those same bat shit crazy conservatives should now stand on principle and come out and say Cruz is not eligible for president
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 05:33:31 PM
I don't know......I just like calling you names... :D

Well at least you admitted it.  lol
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
you know, Straw...that's an excellent point....good job pointing that out.....but those same bat shit crazy conservatives should now stand on principle and come out and say Cruz is not eligible for president

why do you assume they have principle

this is the party that runs away from their own ideas when Obama get's on board

this is the party who members are against gay marriage until one of their kids comes out

etc..
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 23, 2015, 05:38:36 PM
why do you assume they have principle

this is the party that runs away from their own ideas when Obama get's on board

this is the party who members are against gay marriage until one of their kids comes out

etc..

Got me again..you're on a roll........I just get so worked up over the hypocrisy of the right.....they are so open about their hypocrisy its amazing
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
he's legal.  both parents were US citizens. 

He was a dual but he renounced CAN.

The fact Dems are resorting to this show they're very worried about him ;)

When Repubs felt dickless and powerless to stop obama - they were too scared to impeach but couldn't unite the RINO and TP to stop him - they resorted to the birther stuff (which I believe is true).  They knew about the birth cert very early on, but didn't use it fr whatever reason.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2015, 07:25:09 PM
I think his father didn't become a citizen until long after Ted was born

You're right. My mistake. His father didn't become a U.S. citizen until 2005. However, all it takes is one parent being a citizen of the U.S. to make you a citizen, regardless of where you were born.

My dad was born in South Africa. Both his parents were U.S. citizens. Although he served in the U.S. military during WWII, he had to go through a lot of hoops in order to prove he was a U.S. citizen when he went to work for General Electric as an engineer back in 1945.

My three grandchildren who have dual citizenship have a German citizen mother and U.S. citizen father.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: TheGrinch on March 23, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
MEANINGLESS..


its Hildog vs Jeb 2016 and there is SHIT you can do about it because its what TPTB want
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 24, 2015, 05:25:28 AM
he's legal.  both parents were US citizens. 

He was a dual but he renounced CAN.

The fact Dems are resorting to this show they're very worried about him ;)

When Repubs felt dickless and powerless to stop obama - they were too scared to impeach but couldn't unite the RINO and TP to stop him - they resorted to the birther stuff (which I believe is true).  They knew about the birth cert very early on, but didn't use it fr whatever reason.

Democrats are not worried about him...they are simply giving the GOP a taste of their own medicine for when Obama ran.  Ted Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate so regardless, its going to be used against him quite heavily
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 24, 2015, 06:16:24 AM
Is a moot issue since Cruz hasn't got a snowball chance in hell of actually getting the nod.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2015, 07:59:38 AM
He won't but I think Cruz will show whats possible on the GOP side and I think it could lead to Walker. The base hates Jeb...but he has the money so thats where it comes down. This will be a fight for the soul of the party. Do u want a party that adhere's to the Constitution, fiscal responsibility and a strong defense...maybe without adventurism...or dem lite idiots like Jeb.  You dems are making a mistake if you think any GOP squabbles are bad. There needs to be a bloodletting.....240 drives me nuts but he's right as shit on Cruz.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: TheGrinch on March 24, 2015, 08:50:34 AM
you guys just dont get it... NOTHING matters.....


Repubs want someone other than Jeb
Dems want someone other than Hildog



HOWEVER if they run AGAINST each other their parties WILL vote for "their guy/gal" because they hate the other guy more.


Elections are not who you are voting FOR any longer.. its who you are voting AGAINST.


TPTB know it and thats how they arrange elections now. the BEST part is you sheeple just keep playing right along voting for the 2 party system always blaming the other guy..


I swear you people who vote dem or repb are a freakin' joke


(http://i.qkme.me/3r6vnq.jpg)
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 11:00:43 AM

I swear you people who vote dem or repb are a freakin' joke


It's not like there's a choice in the primaries.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: TheGrinch on March 24, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
It's not like there's a choice in the primaries.

yes... register as an independent
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 11:13:26 PM
yes... register as an independent

Independents cannot vote in primary elections in the following:

- Arizona
- California
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- District of Columbia
- Florida
- Kentucky
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- Nebraska
- New Jersey
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- Oklahoma
- Oregon
- Pennsylvania
- Rhode Island
- South Dakota
- Utah
- West Virginia

I live in Oregon. The option you offer is not available to me.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: TheGrinch on March 24, 2015, 11:22:36 PM
Independents cannot vote in primary elections in the following:

- Arizona
- California
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- District of Columbia
- Florida
- Kentucky
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- Nebraska
- New Jersey
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- Oklahoma
- Oregon
- Pennsylvania
- Rhode Island
- South Dakota
- Utah
- West Virginia

I live in Oregon. The option you offer is not available to me.

then vote by sitting home
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
then vote by sitting home

Is that what you do? If so, you have nothing to say about the outcome of an election.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2015, 11:25:12 AM
Independents cannot vote in primary elections in the following:

- Arizona
- California
- Connecticut
- Delaware
- District of Columbia
- Florida
- Kentucky
- Maryland
- Massachusetts
- Nebraska
- New Jersey
- New Mexico
- New York
- North Carolina
- Oklahoma
- Oregon
- Pennsylvania
- Rhode Island
- South Dakota
- Utah
- West Virginia

I live in Oregon. The option you offer is not available to me.

And Hawaii.  You're not prohibited from voting, you just have to vote for a particular party on the entire ticket.  That's largely why I don't vote in our primaries, because I usually split my ticket. 
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
And Hawaii.  You're not prohibited from voting, you just have to vote for a particular party on the entire ticket.  That's largely why I don't vote in our primaries, because I usually split my ticket. 

Other methods of selecting candidates include caucuses, conventions, and nomination meetings. Historically, Canadian political parties chose their candidates through nominating conventions held by constituency riding associations. Canadian party leaders are elected at leadership conventions, although some parties have abandoned this practice in favor of one member, one vote systems.

I'd rather our primary system over Canada's.

Hawaii has an open primary. That's different from Oregon's, which is a hybrid primary.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Dos Equis on March 25, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
Other methods of selecting candidates include caucuses, conventions, and nomination meetings. Historically, Canadian political parties chose their candidates through nominating conventions held by constituency riding associations. Canadian party leaders are elected at leadership conventions, although some parties have abandoned this practice in favor of one member, one vote systems.

I'd rather our primary system over Canada's.

Hawaii has an open primary. That's different from Oregon's, which is a hybrid primary.

It's not truly open, because you cannot split your ticket. 
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
Ted Cruz Shitting on the Haters.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=568941.0;attach=608830;image)

Ok......Ted Cruz...born in Canada by his own admission......is he eligible to be president???.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2015, 10:48:50 PM
Ted Cruz Shitting on the Haters.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=568941.0;attach=608830;image)


This post sucks.
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 26, 2015, 07:59:17 AM
Is a moot issue since Cruz hasn't got a snowball chance in hell of actually getting the nod.

that may be true...but a lot of people said Obama didn't have a snowball's chance in hell either...then lo and behold when he became prez here came the birther issue ;D
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: andreisdaman on March 26, 2015, 08:04:18 AM
By the way isn't it funny that the biggest birthers of them all, Soul Crusher and Coach, haven't made an appearance yet in this thread....I WONDER WHY????????????????????????...aren't they SUPPOSED TO BE PATRIOTS?????????...wouldn't they be interested in discussing a guy who is running for president who wasn't born in the United States?????????


Hypocrites DESTROYED 8)
Title: Re: TED CRUZ BORN IN CANADA.......WHERE ARE THE BIRTHERS NOW???..*crickets*
Post by: blacken700 on March 26, 2015, 09:56:13 AM
By the way isn't it funny that the biggest birthers of them all, Soul Crusher and Coach, haven't made an appearance yet in this thread....I WONDER WHY????????????????????????...aren't they SUPPOSED TO BE PATRIOTS?????????...wouldn't they be interested in discussing a guy who is running for president who wasn't born in the United States?????????


Hypocrites DESTROYED 8)

soul crusher hasn't been on ,must be on vacation