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Title: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: hardgainerj on March 23, 2015, 07:18:58 PM
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Ted-Cruz-birth-certificate.jpeg)

on a side note id pick jeb over ted any day
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: DanielPaul on March 23, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
You can say he's wacko , you can say he's to far right and you can say he's an asshole all day but what you can't say is he's a liar or that he has not represented his districts views in Washington exactly the way he promised he would.  Everything he told them he would do or not do in Washington he's kept to it.  Look at his views on social issues, are they really so bad?  He says leave it to the state to decide gay marriage and abortion , I don't know about you but that's fine with me because the last thing I want is some fuck nut in Cali having a say in what goes on in Texas we as people are far to different to ever agree on those things.  CLOSE CORPERATE LOOP HOLE!!! If he keeps promises as a senator this well that's one promise that I'd love to see kept cause it would bring more dollars to our country than ever and level the playing field for the little guys.  Border security is an absolute must, if a bunch of chincs can build an object so big and long it's visanle from space 1200 years ago why can't we secure our southern border.  He may be a nut but the dude has integrity and no one can deny it.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2015, 08:00:04 PM
Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, WI

Charles Manson was born in Cincinnati, OH

Ted Bundy was born in Burlington, VT

John Wayne Gacy was born in Chicago, IL

David Berkowitz was born in Brooklyn, NY

Westley Allan Dodd was born in Toppenish, WA

All these folks and so many more of their murderous kind were natural born U.S. citizens. -Just saying.

Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 23, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, WI

Charles Manson was born in Cincinnati, OH

Ted Bundy was born in Burlington, VT

John Wayne Gacy was born in Chicago, IL

David Berkowitz was born in Brooklyn, NY

Westley Allan Dodd was born in Toppenish, WA

All these folks any so many more of their murderous kind were natural born U.S. citizens. -Just saying.

And because they were all born in the USA, unlike Cruz and Obama, they were legally eligible to run for the Office of President of The United States of America.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: ritch on March 23, 2015, 08:23:46 PM
How about keeping this shit in the politcs section....
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: rooseveltdunn on March 23, 2015, 08:24:51 PM
And because they were all born in the USA, unlike Cruz and Obama, they were legally eligible to run for the Office of President of The United States of America.

Hawaii is in the U.S dude...
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2015, 08:26:05 PM
And because they were all born in the USA, unlike Cruz and Obama, they were legally eligible to run for the Office of President of The United States of America.

In case you were unaware, Hawaii is a state in the United States and was when Obama was born there. Cruz's natural born U.S. citizenship may subject to further constitutional definition.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 23, 2015, 08:38:58 PM
In case you were unaware, Hawaii is a state in the United States and was when Obama was born there. Cruz's natural born U.S. citizenship may subject to further constitutional definition.

Why?

His mother was born in the US and is a citizen. That makes him an "American born abroad" with respect to citizenship. Just like the kids born outside the U.S. during the Vietnam war
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 23, 2015, 08:43:57 PM
Why?

His mother was born in the US and is a citizen. That makes him an "American born abroad" with respect to citizenship. Just like the kids born outside the U.S. during the Vietnam war

The Constitution states that the President of the United States of America, must be born in the United States of America. Cruz was born in Canada. Obama was born in Kenya, his Hawaiian "Birth Certificate" was digitally constructed, something not possible for a document alleged to have been created in 1963.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 23, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
The Constitution states that the President of the United States of America, must be born in the United States of America. Cruz was born in Canada. Obama was born in Kenya, his Hawaiian "Birth Certificate" was digitally constructed, something not possible for a document alleged to have been created in 1963.

You are wrong.

Natural born citizen. Which Cruz was the instant he was born, because of his mother being a U.S. citizen for 10 years after her 14th birthday.

Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 23, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
You are wrong.

Natural born citizen. Which Cruz was the instant he was born, because of his mother being a U.S. citizen for 10 years after her 14th birthday.

As the law stands now, it is parents, not parent singular, though it has never been tested in the US Supreme Court up to this time. It was almost tested when George Romney ran for President, but he dropped out of the race before it became an issue.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 23, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
As the law stands now, it is parents, not parent singular, though it has never been tested in the US Supreme Court up to this time. It was almost tested when George Romney ran for President, but he dropped out of the race before it became an issue.

Wrong again.

Here's a hint. March 11th Harvard Law Review....read and learn
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 23, 2015, 09:07:45 PM
Wrong again.

Here's a hint. March 11th Harvard Law Review....read and learn

Link?
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Nails on March 23, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
Ted  ::)
  ok rafá
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 23, 2015, 09:31:37 PM
Link?

http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 23, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
1. At least he has a legal birth certificate

2. He doesn't deny he was born in Canada

3. The law states (as it always has) if he was born in another country but his parents were/are American citizens, he's perfectly legal.

But of course the facts will allude liberals....as usual.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Svengoolie on March 23, 2015, 10:33:31 PM
Their heads have been exploding since his announcement yesterday and is seemingly pissing them off more than another Bush running. So Cruz is someone I'll want to watch.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: mr.turbo on March 23, 2015, 10:41:40 PM
here come the birthers  :D
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Wiggs on March 23, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
Obama's American you just got duped. His father is "Uncle Frank" Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist. A Hebrew aka American Negro.  He was also a pornographer.  Obama's mother was one of his spreads. He got her pregnant and Obama was born. The Kenyan thing is to throw people off because  obviously would have mad a much harder time convincing the American people with the truth.

It doesn't matter,the president is SELECTED. The voting is rigged.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 23, 2015, 10:59:52 PM
Obama's American you just got duped. His father is "Uncle Frank" Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist. A Hebrew aka American Negro.  He was also a pornographer.  Obama's mother was one of his spreads. He got her pregnant and Obama was born. The Kenyan thing is to throw people off because  obviously would have mad a much harder time convincing the American people with the truth.

It doesn't matter,the president is SELECTED. The voting is rigged.

In Obama's case he was selected at least during the Clinton era. It's been a scam long in the making and we're paying dearly for it.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: timfogarty on March 23, 2015, 11:37:57 PM
John McCain was born in Panama.  Just saying.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 23, 2015, 11:48:56 PM
John McCain was born in Panama.  Just saying.

And his parents were American citizens.....just sayin.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 01:48:51 AM
Ted's polling in the single digits so far.....regardless of whether you all think he is a natural born U.S. citizen or not, he's not likely going  to be the next President.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: _aj_ on March 24, 2015, 03:29:32 AM
You are wrong.

Natural born citizen. Which Cruz was the instant he was born, because of his mother being a U.S. citizen for 10 years after her 14th birthday.

Correct. Prime is wrong here.

Also, Cruz was the only candidate to go into Iowa and tell them that corn subsidies were bullshit. A third-rail in Iowa and he stood there and did it. And you know what the Iowans did? They gave him a standing ovation. Such is the thirst for something other than third-rate political pablum.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: _aj_ on March 24, 2015, 03:30:43 AM
Ted's polling in the single digits so far.....regardless of whether you all think he is a natural born U.S. citizen or not, he's not likely going  to be the next President.

The campaign is quite early still, my democrat friend. There will be much, MUCH time for you to panic about a Cruz presidency.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 24, 2015, 05:56:00 AM
1. At least he has a legal birth certificate

2. He doesn't deny he was born in Canada

3. The law states (as it always has) if he was born in another country but his parents were/are American citizens, he's perfectly legal.

But of course the facts will allude liberals....as usual.



BAHAHAHAHA!!!  I love it.  This would not be a problem if the GOP wasn't fucking with Obama.  Nothing like eating your own words now. ;D
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: SquidVicious on March 24, 2015, 05:59:33 AM
Obama has a SSN issued to a Connecticut address but neither he nor his parents have ever lived in CT. No plausible explanation has ever been offered for this anomaly.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 24, 2015, 07:58:49 AM
http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

So, as I stated, it hasn't been clearly set out in law by a Supreme Court decision. Maybe a few "lawyers" have decided, but until a case comes before the Supreme Court, there are, and should be grounds, for a test case.

Personally, I think Cruz would be, at this point, qualified to be President of Cuba, and there will be an opening there soon, I hope.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Erik C on March 24, 2015, 08:00:37 AM
John McCain was born in Panama.  Just saying.

McCain was born in the US Panama Canal Zone, a US Territory, until the dope, Jimmy Carter gave it away.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2015, 08:53:55 AM


BAHAHAHAHA!!!  I love it.  This would not be a problem if the GOP wasn't fucking with Obama.  Nothing like eating your own words now. ;D

GOP just took over in January genius. For the last 6 1/2 years he's been doing what he wants and we're paying the price.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 24, 2015, 09:28:42 AM
I think the next president will either be scott walker or martin O'Malley
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Tre on March 24, 2015, 09:45:27 AM
GOP just took over in January genius. For the last 6 1/2 years he's been doing what he wants and we're paying the price.

What price? My real earnings haven't increased, but my savings have ballooned.  Thanks, Obama!
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: LittleJ on March 24, 2015, 09:56:32 AM
GOP just took over in January genius. For the last 6 1/2 years he's been doing what he wants and we're paying the price.

You hated Obama before he was president. Just admit the real reason you hate him. Remember this is getbig, you're protected by Ron and the mods.

Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2015, 10:17:07 AM
Why?

His mother was born in the US and is a citizen. That makes him an "American born abroad" with respect to citizenship. Just like the kids born outside the U.S. during the Vietnam war

people challenged obama....wasnt his mother a US citizen??
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Nails on March 24, 2015, 10:30:07 AM
What price? My real earnings haven't increased, but my savings have ballooned.  Thanks, Obama!


qft
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Nails on March 24, 2015, 10:31:12 AM
people challenged obama....wasnt his mother a US citizen??

yup born in Wichita, KS

Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 10:51:52 AM
people challenged obama....wasnt his mother a US citizen??

I honestly believe for many people questioning Obama's citizenship, it was a cover for the fact they couldn't accept the idea of the U.S. having an African American President.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 10:55:25 AM
I honestly believe for many people questioning Obama's citizenship, it was a cover for the fact they couldn't accept the idea of the U.S. having an African American President.
THIS... not a big expert on your politics but i agree jay
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Walter Sobchak on March 24, 2015, 11:03:03 AM
people challenged obama....wasnt his mother a US citizen??

Yes, I believe so. There are additional residency requirements etc., but I would guess she met them.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2015, 11:06:51 AM
THIS... not a big expert on your politics but i agree jay

From what I've read and heard, German Chancellor, Angela Merkel was not initially a popular choice. She still has her critics, but the people have rallied around her. Do you think her being a female was a stumbling block she had to overcome?
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 11:14:50 AM
From what I've read and heard, German Chancellor, Angela Merkel was not initially a popular choice. She still has her critics, but the people have rallied around her. Do you think her being a female was a stumbling block she had to overcome?
No i think her Party more internal. Sorry but i donīt think people here like her. Also the fact ex DDR a lot of W Germans donīt like her. West and East donīt exist anymore at least in the politicians heads ::) The truth is diffrent. I have met some very Nazi orientated "Ossis"...
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 11:24:30 AM
As i wrote before i was in politics here myself active in Celle Kreistag. I know their conservative thinking and CDU and FDP are the worst. Green Party is just a joke and Die Linke are partially correct but too left for me. I first joined WASG , Wahlalternative Arbeit & soziale Gerechtigkeit. Later they joined with Die Linke which i was a member of because of this fusion. I left because while i was for the working man.. i do not agree with hard left communism.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 11:31:14 AM
Side note..i have met some good East Germans ;) mainly women
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2015, 11:36:26 AM
You hated Obama before he was president. Just admit the real reason you hate him. Remember this is getbig, you're protected by Ron and the mods.



Like 99.5% of America, I had no idea who this clown was. Racist.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2015, 11:37:49 AM
I think the next president will either be scott walker or martin O'Malley

Walter O'Malley will become president before Martin O'Malley will.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 24, 2015, 11:38:31 AM
Who gives a fuck.  Cruz is a non issue.  Americans may be retarded but not retarded enough to vote for him.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Novena on March 24, 2015, 11:41:08 AM
I honestly believe for many people questioning Obama's citizenship, it was a cover for the fact they couldn't accept the idea of the U.S. having an African American President.

I fucking know that this is the case!  I look Republican, (I am so fucking not though) I used to be an electrical engineer. I now work for a non profit arts foundation.  I move in money circles, and red neck circles. When they are alone with me they tell me that this is what they feel like.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: timfogarty on March 24, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
McCain was born in the US Panama Canal Zone, a US Territory, until the dope, Jimmy Carter gave it away.

Actually, he was born in the Coco Solo Family Hospital which was just outside the Canal Zone. But his parents were American citizens, so he is too.  Just as Obama's mother was an American citizen, as is Cruz's mother.

We all know the next President of the United States will be a woman.  I just wish it was Elizabeth Warren.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: _bruce_ on March 24, 2015, 01:28:27 PM
Trump is my favorite.
Gold hair, gold skin and a platinum tie dipped in tiger urine. Unbeatable combo topped of with teeth made of ivory and an attitude of a thermo-nuclear visa card.  8)

Though always remember - it's politics, emotions, high hopes and long faces.
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Donny on March 24, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Trump is my favorite.
Gold hair, gold skin and a platinum tie dipped in tiger urine. Unbeatable combo topped of with teeth made of ivory and an attitude of a thermo-nuclear visa card.  8)

Though always remember - it's politics, emotions, high hopes and long faces.

yep... a real piece of shit
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2015, 02:35:14 PM
Actually, he was born in the Coco Solo Family Hospital which was just outside the Canal Zone. But his parents were American citizens, so he is too.  Just as Obama's mother was an American citizen, as is Cruz's mother.

We all know the next President of the United States will be a woman.  I just wish it was Elizabeth Warren.

i wish
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: timfogarty on March 24, 2015, 03:13:28 PM
i wish

Electing Warren would make me happy for many reasons, including showing all these wing nuts who call Obama "the most liberal president evah" what real liberalism is.  (FYI, Obama is to the right of Nixon)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 24, 2015, 04:55:52 PM
You liberals are ruining this country. Obama is the worst president in my life time. Almost every move he makes is wrong.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: dr.chimps on March 24, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
You liberals are ruining this country. Obama is the worst president in my life time. Almost every move he makes is wrong.
How you got to be an 'oldtimer' with such a limited perspective is quite impressive. Like the albino animal in the wild. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: timfogarty on March 24, 2015, 07:39:15 PM
Almost every move he makes is wrong.

I agree:
not demanding more from Wall Street in exchange for the bailouts.
taking single payer off the table.
deporting people at a record pace, breaking up families in the process.
prosecuting whistleblowers under the espionage act.
using killer flying robots in yemen.
not reigning in the NSA.

but at least he hasn't lied to us to get into an unjustified war
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 24, 2015, 09:48:05 PM
Is he Skull and Bones? Because that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 24, 2015, 10:28:57 PM
Elizabeth Warren claims to be against the big banks and for the little people but she fights auditing the Fed because it could cause "global insecurity" if the American people knew what was being done with their money.   ::)

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/10/sen-warren-opposes-audit-the-fed-bill/   

She just another brick in wall liberals....like all the other politicians.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz birth certificate - born in Canada!
Post by: Nails on March 27, 2015, 09:23:53 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/ (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/)


Ted Cruz going on Obamacare




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 (CNN)Ted Cruz is going on Obamacare.

The newly announced Republican presidential candidate told CNN's Dana Bash on Tuesday that he will sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act -- a law he has been on a crusade to kill.

"We'll be getting new health insurance and we'll presumably do it through my job with the Senate, and so we'll be on the federal exchange with millions of others on the federal exchange," Cruz said.

Asked whether he would accept the government contribution available to lawmakers and congressional staffers for their health care coverage through the ACA, Cruz said he will "follow the text of the law."

"I strongly oppose the exemption that President Obama illegally put in place for members of Congress because (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats didn't want to be under the same rules as the American people," Cruz said, before repeating: "I believe we should follow the text of the law."

Under the Affordable Care Act, members of Congress and some designated congressional staffers are required to obtain health care coverage through the D.C. Health Link Small Business Market. The Office of Personnel Management's guidelines state that lawmakers and their staff receive a "government contribution" if they get health care coverage through the ACA.

But some lawmakers have declined to accept the contribution, saying they do not want to get special treatment. After the interview, a Cruz spokesperson clarified that he wouldn't take the contribution.

Cruz's admission comes one day after CNN first reported that the senator would no longer have access to health benefits through his wife's employer, Goldman Sachs. Heidi Cruz, a managing director at the firm's Houston office, has gone on unpaid leave for the duration of the senator's presidential campaign and will not have access to the company's benefits during that time.

Cruz's campaign appeared caught by surprise Monday by questions about the senator's health care. Asked how Cruz's family would be covered after his wife lost her Goldman Sachs benefits, Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler repeatedly answered that he didn't know.

It's a deeply ironic development for the Texas conservative firebrand, who vaulted to fame during his few years in the Senate in large part by denouncing President Barack Obama's landmark health care law. He led an effort to defund the law that contributed to the 2013 government shutdown.

Cruz denied that there was anything ironic about him going on Obamacare, saying he was simply following the law.

"I believe we should follow the text of every law, even laws I disagree with," Cruz told CNN. "It's one of the real differences -- if you look at President Obama and the lawlessness, if he disagrees with a law he simply refuses to follow it or claims the authority to unilaterally change."

After the publication of this story, Cruz advisers said there was nothing unusual about the senator signing up for insurance coverage through his employer. They argued that Obamacare has wiped out the individual market, leaving Cruz with few options.

Cruz said he will continue advocating for repealing the law.

"What is problematic about Obamacare is that it is killing millions of jobs in this country and has killed millions of jobs," Cruz said. "It has forced millions of people into part time work. It has caused millions of people to lose their insurance, to lose their doctors and to face skyrocketing insurance premiums. That is unacceptable."
Title: Re: ted cruz birth certificate
Post by: Howard on March 27, 2015, 09:35:29 AM
And his parents were American citizens.....just sayin.
Exactly, his dad was a US Navy Admiral .

McCain is a legit US citizen and fully eligible to run for Pres, according to the rules of the US constitution.
Obama was born in Hawaii and is a citizen.
Despite being born in Canada , Cruz is a full US citizen since his parents were at the time of his birth.