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I was watching Jason Bla Bla's video about him talking about his divorce and recent marriage break up with his wife.
I know a few people who went through divorces and breakups this year.......ALL gear users mind you.
It would be a world record for me these days to hold down a relationship for more than 8 weeks at a time.
Before I started steronz I was in a 4 year long term relationship with my x fiance.
Is it really much of a surprise that most guys on testosterone WON"T be able to hold down a relationship for long and inevitably go through breakups or divorce?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users will have far higher rates of cheating and fidelity on their partners?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users behaviors will lead to more aggressive tendencies and fights with their partners in home environment?
Is it really much of a surprise that gear users will end up with sense of invincibility and end up partying hard and crossing over to recreational drugs such as cocaine?
Sure a fuck seems to be a lot of truth in above based on the people I know who use stronz.
Discuss.
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I was watching Jason Bla Bla's video about him talking about his divorce and recent marriage break up with his wife.
I know a few people who went through divorces and breakups this year.......ALL gear users mind you.
It would be a world record for me these days to hold down a relationship for more than 8 weeks at a time.
Before I started steronz I was in a 4 year long term relationship with my x fiance.
Is it really much of a surprise that most guys on testosterone WON"T be able to hold down a relationship for long and inevitably go through breakups or divorce?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users will have far higher rates of cheating and fidelity on their partners?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users behaviors will lead to more aggressive tendencies and fights with their partners in home environment?
Is it really much of a surprise that gear users will end up with sense of invincibility and end up partying hard and crossing over to recreational drugs such as cocaine?
Sure a fuck seems to be a lot of truth in above based on the people I know who use stronz.
Discuss.
I think that you are mistaking correlation with causation. Lots of dumb fucks that would cheat or be overly aggressive use steroids. They had the propensity prior.
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I think that you are mistaking correlation with causation. Lots of dumb fucks that would cheat or be overly aggressive use steroids. They had the propensity prior.
I distinguish between the two, although it can be a bit of a grey area when correlation leads to direct causation.
I personally think its largely compound and dose related.
I can see most guys being able to handle say up to 500mg test a week and being perfectly fine.
But I have yet to see one person on highish tren who didn't have some kinda real trouble with it in life.
I believe long term bodybuilding lifestyle and ultimately abuse of gear will inevitably lead to alienation of loved ones and friends similar to recreational drug use.
There is no sugar coating that in my opinion.
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The Irony is that when I was first researching about steroids my overwhelming concern was with the physical side effects only.
"Will I be hurting my liver and kidneys"? "Will I lose my hair?" "Will I get acne"...all the usual things.
I recently had blood work come back (after my heaviest cycle to date) and everything came back absolutely perfect which I was quite shocked about.
I also had heart scan done which also came back perfect, matter of fact I was told "I have heart of an 18 year old"...which I was even more shocked about given my recreational drug use.
Also after my last cycle my doctor told me I am one of those lucky guys that doesn't seem to get much HEPTA shutdown and even on boat load of test I was still producing my own test naturally in small quantities.
However the one thing I never anticipated about going on gear was the psychological aspects which seems at times have brought me down to 18 year old levels of stupidity at times with ridiculous risk taking.
While I am not particularly concerned about health effects right now.
I can honestly see myself snapping one day at someone in a hard way which won't end well for me or them.
That is my biggest worry about steronz use.
As well as how it fucks up your relationships with lovers cos u can't keep your dick in your pants or just get so aggressive they get freaked out and wanna run.
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I was watching Jason Bla Bla's video about him talking about his divorce and recent marriage break up with his wife.
I know a few people who went through divorces and breakups this year.......ALL gear users mind you.
It would be a world record for me these days to hold down a relationship for more than 8 weeks at a time.
Before I started steronz I was in a 4 year long term relationship with my x fiance.
Is it really much of a surprise that most guys on testosterone WON"T be able to hold down a relationship for long and inevitably go through breakups or divorce?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users will have far higher rates of cheating and fidelity on their partners?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users behaviors will lead to more aggressive tendencies and fights with their partners in home environment?
Is it really much of a surprise that gear users will end up with sense of invincibility and end up partying hard and crossing over to recreational drugs such as cocaine?
Sure a fuck seems to be a lot of truth in above based on the people I know who use stronz.
Discuss.
8X Mr. Olympia Lee Haney was married and had kids, and he still his married.
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I'm one of the most layed back guys you will ever meet. My friends at work always can't believe how gentle I am. I try to be that way because I look a tiny bit scary. I get rough with my wife in the sack that's it.
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Lolz at the OP. Dude, ugly guys on steroids cant cheat. Cuz they have no options. Your assuming most guys on roids have options. Not the case. Just cause i got a hard dick cuz of my test levels doesnt mean some random chick is gonna fuck me. I have no game, and average looks. No girl is banging down my door wanting to be with me other than my wife
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tren is a good compound to go on for achieving maximum breakup potential
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Lolz at the OP. Dude, ugly guys on steroids cant cheat. Cuz they have no options. Your assuming most guys on roids have options. Not the case. Just cause i got a hard dick cuz of my test levels doesnt mean some random chick is gonna fuck me. I have no game, and average looks. No girl is banging down my door wanting to be with me other than my wife
As a guy that has looks (IMHO), money, decent physique, lots of confidence and lots of game, I can say that there such a thing as responsibility. Gear doesn't change who you are in your heart.
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8X Mr. Olympia Lee Haney was married and had kids, and he still his married.
Like I said to you before in life there are always exceptions, that doesn't take away from the general rule or trend.
Also lets not assume we know much about Haney's personal life and what he got up to or not, no one would know that but him.
For every Haney, for every Arnold, for every Usian Bolt or national lottery winner there are literally millions who have opposite issues or problems.
Haney also stopped pretty young.
Lets not use the 0.00000000001% of the population for basis of an intelligent discussion.
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Lolz at the OP. Dude, ugly guys on steroids cant cheat. Cuz they have no options. Your assuming most guys on roids have options. Not the case. Just cause i got a hard dick cuz of my test levels doesnt mean some random chick is gonna fuck me. I have no game, and average looks. No girl is banging down my door wanting to be with me other than my wife
You assume that not having exceptional looks or amazing physiques can't get you laid?
I put it to you that is a total myth.
There are thousands of average, even not so good looking guys with average physiques getting tons of pussy or laid on a daily basis in the world.
Most times it just comes down to taking advantage of the opportunities presented to you and a numbers game.
Its is a question of libido and motivation.
Steroids increase both so it is inevitable that you would not stay loyal to one partner hence causing breakups and divorce.
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How many wives and girlfriends would be happy with syringes, vials and pills in the house that you bought out of the trunk of a car in the gym parking lot?
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8X Mr. Olympia Lee Haney was married and had kids, and he still his married.
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DAMN good reply!!!
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why would a juiced up bodybuilder (that looks good) get married? And if he does, why would he continue juicing?
makes little sense
Guys lay off the anti-depressants and stop all this marriage talk, you know the odds of being happily married, leave it alone people.
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You assume that not having exceptional looks or amazing physiques can't get you laid?
I put it to you that is a total myth.
There are thousands of average, even not so good looking guys with average physiques getting tons of pussy or laid on a daily basis in the world.
Most times it just comes down to taking advantage of the opportunities presented to you and a numbers game.
Its is a question of libido and motivation.
Steroids increase both so it is inevitable that you would not stay loyal to one partner hence causing breakups and divorce.
I don't know about the steroids increasing libido part. I personally think it can hurt your sex drive in the long term
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You assume that not having exceptional looks or amazing physiques can't get you laid?
I put it to you that is a total myth.
There are thousands of average, even not so good looking guys with average physiques getting tons of pussy or laid on a daily basis in the world.
Most times it just comes down to taking advantage of the opportunities presented to you and a numbers game.
Its is a question of libido and motivation.
Steroids increase both so it is inevitable that you would not stay loyal to one partner hence causing breakups and divorce.
I don't know about the steroids increasing libido part. I personally think it can hurt your sex drive in the long term
It's only when you first start that it's any good at increasing libido. After that it's all downhill, especially when Tren and Deca are used for any significant period of time. When you eventually come off, if you've been a heavy user, you've got long-term problems to deal with in the potency department if you don't do TRT.
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It's only when you first start that it's any good at increasing libido. After that it's all downhill, especially when Tren and Deca are used for any significant period of time. When you eventually come off, if you've been a heavy user, you've got long-term problems to deal with in the potency department if you don't do TRT.
yup. Nature custom made every man with just the right amount of hormones .... I don't think any long term user will ever be the same as when they were natural. Maybe if they had low test levels to begin with...for every extra mg of testosterone you put in your body your estro is going to go up, Ai's...caber....that shit can only do so much.
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I was watching Jason Bla Bla's video about him talking about his divorce and recent marriage break up with his wife.
I know a few people who went through divorces and breakups this year.......ALL gear users mind you.
It would be a world record for me these days to hold down a relationship for more than 8 weeks at a time.
Before I started steronz I was in a 4 year long term relationship with my x fiance.
Is it really much of a surprise that most guys on testosterone WON"T be able to hold down a relationship for long and inevitably go through breakups or divorce?
still with same girl nearly 6 years.
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users will have far higher rates of cheating and fidelity on their partners?
always been poly-amorous so conventional thinking never suited me, alot hornier with a bigger sexual appetite yes but actually following through with things, no nothing increased there.
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users behaviors will lead to more aggressive tendencies and fights with their partners in home environment?
never hit her, don't argue more than we did prior to gear so nothing changed there
Is it really much of a surprise that gear users will end up with sense of invincibility and end up partying hard and crossing over to recreational drugs such as cocaine?
no, I have remained humble, used to booze a good bit for a couple years prior to getting back in to bodybuilding. Dont take other rec drugs, occasional shrooming for spiritual reasons.
Sure a fuck seems to be a lot of truth in above based on the people I know who use stronz.
Discuss.
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For fuck sakes can you guys sort out your quotes, I need a micro-scope to read this shit.
Not reading it and getting headache till you fix it.
Jeeez.....never understood why its so hard to quote properly.
FF's.
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sort out your eyes then ;)
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@Flinstone, about libido I guess it depends on compound and is individual.
On high test I am a fucking animal if I don't fuck every single day sometimes like multiple occasions I will kill someone.
Girls always be like why the fuck you so rough during sex, u never used to be like this before, all u wanna do it attack, attack attack.
I slapped this one girl during sex soo hard she started fucking crying on me....I felt bad after
I had been rough with her before many times but she was like "this is some next level shit".....anyway every time we fuck you can see she is so anxious after that.
I get pure fucking evil thoughts too that I have to keep in check....to sick to talk about.....
Always when on cycle.
I am chill as fuck when off.
You can ask Booty how much I change when talking on phone when on and off, its like a different person.
I just come off two weeks now and I feel like death already.
I want to smash plates in my house.
Maybe I will do it and film it and post it right now to make myself feel better.
I hate coming off.
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your chill as fuck when off yet your going to smash your plates up?
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I feel the same way especially when running high doses of tren but make sure I keep my emotions in check.I get a bit distant from people but have mostly been introverted but things seem to kick up a notch. Especially sexual nature. I feel evil at times and don't like it cause I'm a good dude.
@Flinstone, about libido I guess it depends on compound and is individual.
On high test I am a fucking animal if I don't fuck every single day sometimes like multiple occasions I will kill someone.
Girls always be like why the fuck you so rough during sex, u never used to be like this before, all u wanna do it attack, attack attack.
I slapped this one girl during sex soo hard she started fucking crying on me....I felt bad after
I had been rough with her before many times but she was like "this is some next level shit".....anyway every time we fuck you can see she is so anxious after that.
I get pure fucking evil thoughts too that I have to keep in check....to sick to talk about.....
Always when on cycle.
I am chill as fuck when off.
You can ask Booty how much I change when talking on phone when on and off, its like a different person.
I just come off two weeks now and I feel like death already.
I want to smash plates in my house.
Maybe I will do it and film it and post it right now to make myself feel better.
I hate coming off.
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I think that you are mistaking correlation with causation. Lots of dumb fucks that would cheat or be overly aggressive use steroids. They had the propensity prior.
I didn't use steroids much and I'm on my 14th marriage.
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I didn't use steroids much and I'm on my 14th marriage.
And if you'd juiced regularly, you'd STILL be on your 14th wife.
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I was watching Jason Bla Bla's video about him talking about his divorce and recent marriage break up with his wife.
I know a few people who went through divorces and breakups this year.......ALL gear users mind you.
It would be a world record for me these days to hold down a relationship for more than 8 weeks at a time.
Before I started steronz I was in a 4 year long term relationship with my x fiance.
Is it really much of a surprise that most guys on testosterone WON"T be able to hold down a relationship for long and inevitably go through breakups or divorce?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users will have far higher rates of cheating and fidelity on their partners?
Is it really much of a surprise that testosterone users behaviors will lead to more aggressive tendencies and fights with their partners in home environment?
Is it really much of a surprise that gear users will end up with sense of invincibility and end up partying hard and crossing over to recreational drugs such as cocaine?
Sure a fuck seems to be a lot of truth in above based on the people I know who use stronz.
Discuss.
one word answer... yes.
anyone who says differently hasnt used, or hasnt been around the scene.
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Your a chilled guy generaly it seems though
tren + mast + eq at high doses for ultimate paranoia and relationship fuck up potential.
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i tend become more empathetic and loving when i'm on and my mood becomes generally more positive all around.
clomid turns me into a cunt though, only thing I've ever noticed to have an actual negative effect on my personality in terms of aggression.
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probably your rise in eostrogen if your not taking AIS
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interesting-i had affair before i started TRT at 40-after that even with a good sex life i was not tamed anymore-i even have children0-i started messing around felt like i was 25 again and everntually met someone else-shes 43 too and after a while she went on test cream to keep up with me -the pamphlet at my first visit said_" testosterone will affect a relationship if one partner is on it and the other is not" unless you have a young gf...thats a diff story-but they want kids...
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For fuck sakes can you guys sort out your quotes, I need a micro-scope to read this shit.
Not reading it and getting headache till you fix it.
Jeeez.....never understood why its so hard to quote properly.
FF's.
Sort out your color first.
Set it up.
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Hmmmm interesting topic. When they go off is way worse IMO. Inability to perform and the negativity about the body is rampant
Ask a man who had f'd up his testosterone levels and can no longer get it up in his 40's if it's worth i. Sadly many don't realize they won't be Hercules forever. better invest in more than your body
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Damn intelligent (on the most part) and interesting conversation here.
That brief mention of 'responsibility' carries a lot of weight but seems to be ignored as this topic evolves.
A god friend who who has been on a riod "program' for the past 30 years or so claims that the following is a truthful fact ......
"If you are an asshole before you start using roads, you'll be a bigger asshole once you use them!"
That statement kind of wraps it up in a 'nutshell'.
Interesting discussion though!
Thanks!
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both me and every single of my buddies who use believe that AAS amplify emotions, and especially notorious for that is tren
you feel good without tren = you feel like a million bucks on tren
you feel like shit without tren = you feel like complete utter wanna kill yourself garbage when on tren
ur an asshole without tren = ur a huge gaping pornstar asshole on tren
u got anxiety without tren = youll be a fucking paranoid (add EQ into the mix and goodbye)
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DAMN good reply!!!
Lee Haney has strong convictions and I think he really likes his wife. Many of the guys I've known in bodybuilding are so insecure that they are way too hard to have any sort of relationship with. Yes the hormone surge is real but for someone who is insecure getting lots of attention from your physique tends to boost confidence temporarily and turns guys into the ladies man. It's temporary though. Still insecure and still a mess and when they cycle off...all bad
The ones that make it like Haney are the ones that know there's more to life! Otherwise you're going to be like those sad and bitter guys who can only attract cheap tramps that take all their money!
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I don't know about Steroids. However I will say that Facebook and social media in general has lead to more relationship problems than 10 million raging 5 grams of test and 2 grams of tren a week users could ever do LoL.
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Off - Im a sex addict.. On-Im a sex addict. Not much difference. on another hand- Im now more horny at 30, than when I was 20 and can fuck for a long time like an animal. Hormones are great..
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I don't know about Steroids. However I will say that Facebook and social media in general has lead to more relationship problems than 10 million raging 5 grams of test and 2 grams of tren a week users could ever do LoL.
X 10!