When one considers all the $$ spent on drugs, supplements, food and related crap it sure seems like a lot spent.
Add to that ,the entry fees are $250 for national events plus the cost of flight and hotel.
Plus, most serious bodybuilders seem to avoid getting a job/career OUTSIDE of the "fitness industry".
Only handful of the top pros make a decent living directly from bodybuilding.
Sooooooooo, is it a money pit or what?
True dat'
Hmmm, it's not just spending money on drugs and competing, etc.
I think the bigger issue is the loss of any potential viable career path due to an obsession with working in the "fitness industry"
no it's a goldmine/moneymaker :P
If the competitor loves the competition and invests a ton into it yet doesn't win but still loves training, competing, etc....is that a "money pit" or "money well spent"?
Not every activity we invest in has a huge monetary return (or any monetary return). For some the return on investment is non-monetary and even more satisfying.
I personally don't understand that in this circumstance, but for some investing all they have in a few years of passionate participation outweighs leaving that passion with virtually nothing to show for it physically or financially.
Again, I don't get it....I'm just saying.
Why is Jason Rasputin Cutler parading around that gymnasium with his pantaloons at his ankles in your avatar?called swag bro
Start your own fed -
http://www.crownawards.com/StoreFront/Bodybuilding.ALL.Trophies.srch .
You could be Mr. Howard's Basement a few dozen times over for that $250, and it's probably just as prestigious to most people as being an IFBB pro.
Fuck yes it is! However, for me, I dont buy a lot of OTC supps. Just whey protein and a preworkout. Not sure what the entry fee is for Dexters show but if I wanted to crossover its $80.00, plus $120 for NPC Card, Hotel, gas from Clearwater to JAX, food (Sams Club is a lifesaver), Pro Tan and "supps" (which I dont buy a lot of)
LOL, Mr Howard's basement. ;D ;D ;D
That zinger alone made it worth starting this thread.
Question - What would the trophy/award be for winning the MHB?
If the competitor loves the competition and invests a ton into it yet doesn't win but still loves training, competing, etc....is that a "money pit" or "money well spent"?
Not every activity we invest in has a huge monetary return (or any monetary return). For some the return on investment is non-monetary and even more satisfying.
I personally don't understand that in this circumstance, but for some investing all they have in a few years of passionate participation outweighs leaving that passion with virtually nothing to show for it physically or financially.
Again, I don't get it....I'm just saying.
A slighty LESS muscular version of this -fixed- It's MY basement :D
(http://edgecastcdn.net/800034/www.perpetualkid.com/productimages/lg3/TRFY-2011-2.jpg).
I thought about the view you present in your reply.
1. I agree , no hobby should be required to make a profit if someone enjoys it. But, considering the amount of drugs used , I fear it my be more addiction then fun hobby.
2. Since you can't read a bodybuilders mind , it's not possible to be certain of their enjoyment from it.
BUT, based only on my observations, bodybuilding doesn't seem to bring much joy to those deeply involved in it.
Many who compete always seemed pissed off at the judges and complain about having to diet, etc
I thought about the view you present in your reply.
1. I agree , no hobby should be required to make a profit if someone enjoys it. But, considering the amount of drugs used , I fear it my be more addiction then fun hobby.
2. Since you can't read a bodybuilders mind , it's not possible to be certain of their enjoyment from it.
BUT, based only on my observations, bodybuilding doesn't seem to bring much joy to those deeply involved in it.
Many who compete always seemed pissed off at the judges and complain about having to diet, etc
When you wind up like Derek Anthony or other pros who have died from organ failure, its a money pit.Derek wasn't exactly a stranger to narcotics, he publicly admitted he was severely addicted to GHB for a while.
When one considers all the $$ spent on drugs, supplements, food and related crap it sure seems like a lot spent.
Add to that ,the entry fees are $250 for national events plus the cost of flight and hotel.
Plus, most serious bodybuilders seem to avoid getting a job/career OUTSIDE of the "fitness industry".
Only handful of the top pros make a decent living directly from bodybuilding.
Sooooooooo, is it a money pit or what?
Well, yeah, its not just ONE factor. Sinking endless money into food, drugs and supplements (for those that use them) will definitely create a hole in your wallet.
The further you delve into the sport, and the more years that pass, the less likelihood there will be of getting a job. For example, there are age limits for certain jobs. If you're passed 35, you can't take the NYPD test. If you're passed 29, you can't take the FDNY test. The age cutoff for border patrol agents is 37. And I am sure there are many more jobs that have age cutoffs.
When one considers all the $$ spent on drugs, supplements, food and related crap it sure seems like a lot spent.
Add to that ,the entry fees are $250 for national events plus the cost of flight and hotel.
Plus, most serious bodybuilders seem to avoid getting a job/career OUTSIDE of the "fitness industry".
Only handful of the top pros make a decent living directly from bodybuilding.
Sooooooooo, is it a money pit or what?
Why is Jason Rasputin Cutler parading around that gymnasium with his pantaloons at his ankles in your avatar?
Not for a person like me who sells equipment and supplements... ;D
Calliber Fitness now listed on the Fortune 500. :D
Ya know Vince only one type of person was guaranteed to get rich during the Gold Rush Days.
It was the local store merchant who sold the tools , equipment, food and supplies .
EVERY miner had to buy stuff from them and at a decent mark up.
Ok,now that guy knows how to do a correct side chest pose.Bit more crouch on the side chest get the hammies separation happening, at least 45 degrees
It's NOT meant to be a sideways most muscular. ;)
I got into that condition on the cheap. No paid guru, no big drug cycles, no super supplement plan.
I worked a regular full time job, I only trained 6 hrs a week and ate a basic diet and cut back on the calories.
Bodybuilders today think magic potions and voodoo contest prep is the key to success. It's NOT!
Bit more crouch on the side chest get the hammies separation happening, at least 45 degrees
If you enjoy doing it and your having fun who cares? There's tons of other sporting activities that athletes blow tons of money to participate in..my friend is a triathlete he spent 9k on his bike alone..and why cant you have a job/career and compete at the same time?? I never understood this..if you work 8-10 hours a day train 2-3 hours a day that leaves at least another 10 plus hours a day to do whatever you need to do..Perfect attitude that more folks need in bodybuilding.
Ok,now that guy knows how to do a correct side chest pose.Amen, I didn't even pay my entrance fee or NPC card fee when I competed,the gym owners did. It cost me next to nothing. The little amount of gear I did, I sold the rest to my buddies in the gym. Ah the good old days.
It's NOT meant to be a sideways most muscular. ;)
I got into that condition on the cheap. No paid guru, no big drug cycles, no super supplement plan.
I worked a regular full time job, I only trained 6 hrs a week and ate a basic diet and cut back on the calories.
Bodybuilders today think magic potions and voodoo contest prep is the key to success. It's NOT!
Amen, I didn't even pay my entrance fee or NPC card fee when I competed,the gym owners did. It cost me next to nothing. The little amount of gear I did, I sold the rest to my buddies in the gym. Ah the good old days.
Amen, I didn't even pay my entrance fee or NPC card fee when I competed,the gym owners did. It cost me next to nothing. The little amount of gear I did, I sold the rest to my buddies in the gym. Ah the good old days.
I got into that condition on the cheap. No paid guru, no big drug cycles, no super supplement plan.
I worked a regular full time job, I only trained 6 hrs a week and ate a basic diet and cut back on the calories.
Bodybuilders today think magic potions and voodoo contest prep is the key to success. It's NOT!
What kind of thread is this, who would even ask this question in the first place? ::) ???
So many talk about the lack of financial rewards. But let's say it was a lucrative hobby, I would still say that's a bad reason to get into it, a personal obsession would be a much more rational explanation for bodybuilding. Choosing bodybuilding to make money? Come on, sounds really stupid to me.
No one bodybuilds just for money, not even the top pros. Much easier ways to make money.
By money pit, I really mean putting a lot in and not getting much personal joy back?
Professional bodybuilders are no different from other elite-level, world class athletes who bring billions of revenue in to their federations and reap the rewards. Multi-million dollar contest winnings and endorsements, generous executive IFBB contracts loaded with fat salaries, huge blocks of IFBB stock and options, matching 401k, pensions, full health benefits, etc, etc.
;D ;D ;D yeah right ::)
please tell: what is 'full health benefits' in bb , free funeral or kidney transplant ::)
155th rank golfer make more coins than mr.olympia :)
Happy Gilmore paid off his grandma's back taxes by getting 24th-33rd place each week on the tour.
He'd have made more if he hadn't tried to beat up Bob Barker .
Another example, trophy/medal value:
- Weider Sandow $ 400
- Original bronze Sandow from 1905 was sold for 9800 English coins in 2012
- Fifa World Cup : 5kg of gold & insured for $ 10 millions
- Admirals Cup ,$ 400 000
- etc,.........
Obw, Basile plastic Olympia '80 trophy = totally worthless ;D , in C.Dickerson possession ::)
You looked good but that you did it on the cheap shows. You said you did a few winstrol shots only and I believe you. Imagine you on a proper stack. Nothing crazy but just a few levels higher. The expense for a good stack isn't anything crazy either as you know.I always thought a typical , hardcore "drug cycle" was too extreme.
;D ;D ;D yeah right ::)
please tell: what is 'full health benefits' in bb , free funeral or kidney transplant ::)
155th rank golfer make more coins than mr.olympia :)