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Title: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Neptune100 on April 03, 2015, 03:22:55 AM
For me, its heavy dumbbell rows for 4-5 sets of 8-12 reps.  Always leaves me the most exhausted and out of breath, maybe because its more aerobic than anaerobic in nature, since you have to switch arms half way through and a set can take upwards of a minute.  Deadlifts are second, always tough but overall more enjoyable. 
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: DanM on April 03, 2015, 03:30:13 AM
I would say purely from an effort point of view, you would have to go with deadlifts. Weighted chins are also pretty difficult if you do them in a strict fashion.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: BigRo on April 03, 2015, 03:31:26 AM
there all hard depending on how there done. I find seated cable rows to be exceedingly painful when done with a drop set.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Henda on April 03, 2015, 03:39:17 AM
I find deadlifts for higher reps to be the hardest, never been good at reps far prefer low rep sets on almost everything.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: tuna999 on April 03, 2015, 03:46:52 AM
Heavy barbell rows for me hate doing them but love it at the same time
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: _aj_ on April 03, 2015, 03:50:59 AM
I did a 25 set/5 exercise back workout and after each set, immediately did a set of yates rows with 135. At first, the weight seemed fine, but after the 25th set, it really was getting heavy.

But just alone, I would have to go with the DL. I am almost always out of breath after a 10 rep set.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Thong Maniac on April 03, 2015, 03:59:24 AM
I did a 25 set/5 exercise back workout and after each set, immediately did a set of yates rows with 135. At first, the weight seemed fine, but after the 25th set, it really was getting heavy.

But just alone, I would have to go with the DL. I am almost always out of breath after a 10 rep set.

ThT sounds like over training but i guess if eating alot and on gear its fine
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 03, 2015, 04:32:00 AM
It will always be pull ups for me. If you dead hang and truly go all the way up till your elbows go as far down as they can it's absolutely a brutal exercise.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 03, 2015, 04:35:36 AM
SLDL first. Just because you have to stay fully focused. Posture can't be so-so. So your full body is under stress. Weighted chins can be really painful but I feel much more confortable doing them.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: SuperTed on April 03, 2015, 04:36:41 AM
I find deadlifts for higher reps to be the hardest, never been good at reps far prefer low rep sets on almost everything.

X2

Deadlifts can be punishing. The others feel almost therapeutic in comparison.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 03, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
X2

Deadlifts can be punishing. The others feel almost therapeutic in comparison.

Exactly.  It's like comparing squats to the leg press.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 03, 2015, 08:09:21 AM
They are all pretty easy, even when going heavy.  I guess if you incorporated it with some sort of balancing act you could make them all difficult, however you would just look foolish and most likely land yourself in a hospital.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 03, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
Barbell rows;  if done CORRECTLY .

Nothing takes more effort.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  BE YE KE
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: ritch on April 03, 2015, 08:19:15 AM
pullups.

My left shoulder, forearm won't even allow me to do them. Even when I could to them, my best would have been a 25lbs plate added to my 200ish body weight at the time for 8ish reps.

But those were real reps, full range, slow 3-4 second eccentric as I do on everything....

So now the only "pullups" I do is when I "pull up" my pants after doing your mom.... Ha!
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: SF1900 on April 03, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
In order of hardest:

Wide grip pullups
Deadlifts
Barbell rows
dumbbell rows
tbar rows
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 03, 2015, 08:55:07 AM
In order of hardest:

Wide grip pullups
Deadlifts
Barbell rows
dumbbell rows
tbar rows

What does hardest mean?  If done properly, they are all hard to do.  There is a difference between discomfort and difficulty.  For me, chins, cable and dumbbell rows are the most comfortable and all the bent over back exercises are the most uncomfortable.  
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Donny on April 03, 2015, 08:56:58 AM
Deadlifts for me ..
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: chaos on April 03, 2015, 09:00:13 AM
They are all pretty easy, even when going heavy.  I guess if you incorporated it with some sort of balancing act you could make them all difficult, however you would just look foolish and most likely land yourself in a hospital.
::)
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: SF1900 on April 03, 2015, 09:07:09 AM
What does hardest mean?  If done properly, they are all hard to do.  There is a difference between discomfort and difficulty.  For me, chins, cable and dumbbell rows are the most comfortable and all the bent over back exercises are the most uncomfortable.  

Ha, I asked myself the same question. I defined hardest in being able to complete multiple reps within a set. Thus, Id say my list still sticks. As for exhaustion, deadlifts would be first.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Army of One on April 03, 2015, 09:12:51 AM
Anyone else feel they get more stimulation/development doing cables rows over barbell row? but it feels much easier than doing a barbell row too
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 03, 2015, 09:13:24 AM
::)
::)

How "hard" can it be?  There are millions of women and children worldwide doing these exercises and yet somehow its difficult for many on here?  ???

I am not capable of understanding this one bit.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
::)

How "hard" can it be?  There are millions of women and children worldwide doing these exercises and yet somehow its difficult for many on here?  ???

I am not capable of understanding this one bit.

Yes...we know.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: io856 on April 03, 2015, 11:27:40 AM
Yes...we know.
lol exactly
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: The Italian Lifter on April 03, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
For me, its heavy dumbbell rows for 4-5 sets of 8-12 reps.  Always leaves me the most exhausted and out of breath, maybe because its more aerobic than anaerobic in nature, since you have to switch arms half way through and a set can take upwards of a minute.  Deadlifts are second, always tough but overall more enjoyable. 

Heavy set of 20 reps deadlift for me. The closer I get to death.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 03, 2015, 11:35:23 AM
I'd hate to see what you guys would think of raking leaves if you think lifting weights is difficult.  :-\
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: SF1900 on April 03, 2015, 11:55:34 AM
I'd hate to see what you guys would think of raking leaves if you think lifting weights is difficult.  :-\

Or how about painting houses like Johnny Falcon!
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: illuminati on April 03, 2015, 12:23:04 PM
What does hardest mean?  If done properly, they are all hard to do.  There is a difference between discomfort and difficulty.  For me, chins, cable and dumbbell rows are the most comfortable and all the bent over back exercises are the most uncomfortable.  

















Yes.
Easiest least uncomfortable for me.
Chins, pull downs, seated rows.
Hardest most uncomfortable,
Deadlifts, BB Rows, T Bar rows.

DB rows fit in the middle.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 03, 2015, 12:26:45 PM
I hate one arm DB rows.  thinking about them aggravates me.

they just take fkng FOREVER.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: DanM on April 03, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
I'd hate to see what you guys would think of raking leaves if you think lifting weights is difficult.  :-\

You must be using some baby weights in addition to not having much drive in the gym if lifting weights is so easy for you.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: polychronopolous on April 03, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
I hate one arm DB rows.  thinking about them aggravates me.

they just take fkng FOREVER.

Compound that with a "run the rack scheme"  8)
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: JasonH on April 03, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
One arm dumbbell rows for me are the hardest, if by hardest you mean taxes the central nervous system to the point where you have to take several mins rest in between sets just to recover enough for the next one. It's an exercise that takes a long time to complete as well, especially if you're doing rep ranges of 12-15 for each set, each arm.

Deadlifts and/or barbell rows a close second.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2015, 03:37:18 PM
I have a chest supported row machine (plate load) so I don't mind them.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 03, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
I have a chest supported row machine (plate load) so I don't mind them.
I have one of those two and its a joke, just like Deadlifts and the rest.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Voice of Doom on April 03, 2015, 04:10:46 PM
Pull ups.  Its a combination of currently being weak and overweight.   :-[
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2015, 04:17:20 PM
I have one of those two and its a joke, just like Deadlifts and the rest.

Do you even train?
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2015, 05:26:26 PM
I'd hate to see what you guys would think of raking leaves if you think lifting weights is difficult.  :-\

Hate to see on up on a roof in the middle of summer when the deck is around 220 degrees pulling or tailing a felt machine or working with pitch and spreading rock. "Raking leaves" ::)
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on April 04, 2015, 04:49:48 AM
Pause or double pause defecit deadlifts
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: _aj_ on April 04, 2015, 04:56:08 AM
TA, you are trolling way to hard in this thread. Nobody is biting right now.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 04, 2015, 05:03:17 AM
It will always be pull ups for me. If you dead hang and truly go all the way up till your elbows go as far down as they can it's absolutely a brutal exercise.
This ^^^
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: _aj_ on April 04, 2015, 05:07:29 AM
It will always be pull ups for me. If you dead hang and truly go all the way up till your elbows go as far down as they can it's absolutely a brutal exercise.

For some reason, I have always been good at pullups even with my long arms. A set of 15 dead hang pullups feel like a calisthenic exercise. But the deadlift, even in "light" weights knocks the wind right out of me.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 04, 2015, 05:11:18 AM
For some reason, I have always been good at pullups even with my long arms. A set of 15 dead hang pullups feel like a calisthenic exercise. But the deadlift, even in "light" weights knocks the wind right out of me.
Chins have always been a weak point for me, I can do dips and pushups all day long, I have had to work hard to develop chin up endurance, especially wide grip chins.  I purchased one of those power towers a while back so I could concentrate on improving my chin-up count.  Watching Frank Medrano inspired me. 
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: _aj_ on April 04, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
Chins have always been a weak point for me, I can do dips and pushups all day long, I have had to work hard to develop chin up endurance, especially wide grip chins.  I purchased one of those power towers a while back so I could concentrate on improving my chin-up count.  Watching Frank Medrano inspired me. 

When my shoulder and elbow started giving me hell, I stopped the wide-grip chins and did neutral grip and close-grip chins. I also like doing shins from rings as I can turn my wrists to keep the movement comfortable on my joints.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Donny on April 04, 2015, 06:50:43 AM
When my shoulder and elbow started giving me hell, I stopped the wide-grip chins and did neutral grip and close-grip chins. I also like doing shins from rings as I can turn my wrists to keep the movement comfortable on my joints.

yeah you donīt need a really wide grip anyway. a mixed grip i do now and again.. one hand pronated and one supinated.  I was just at a local supermarket and the staff are all wearing Bunny costumes because of Easter... one poor guy was wearing a pink Bunny suite .. I started to think of that thombz Guy on here.. :-X :-\
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 04, 2015, 07:01:07 AM
When my shoulder and elbow started giving me hell, I stopped the wide-grip chins and did neutral grip and close-grip chins. I also like doing shins from rings as I can turn my wrists to keep the movement comfortable on my joints.


neutral grip for me too.  wide grips feels unnatural and i feel my shoulders barking.

it's also not as effective, cuts ROM short, doesn't stress the back muscles as well
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Grape Ape on April 04, 2015, 07:50:55 AM
When my shoulder and elbow started giving me hell, I stopped the wide-grip chins and did neutral grip and close-grip chins. I also like doing shins from rings as I can turn my wrists to keep the movement comfortable on my joints.


You should pick up a set of Atomik Bombs...not sure if they'd be entirely dissimilar to the rings, but I think they're cool for pullups and you'd probably like them.

https://vimeo.com/48828719
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: _aj_ on April 04, 2015, 08:00:46 AM
You should pick up a set of Atomik Bombs...not sure if they'd be entirely dissimilar to the rings, but I think they're cool for pullups and you'd probably like them.

https://vimeo.com/48828719

Holy shit, my wife would kill me. When she came to me proudly boasting about all the pullups she could do, I just hung a 15# chain around her neck and walked away. These will kill her!
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: robcguns on April 04, 2015, 08:03:30 AM
Id say pullups for most as most cant do them.
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: illuminati on April 04, 2015, 03:12:04 PM
Do you even train?













X2.
Does he Even EAT.?
OR ever Engage His Brain.?
Title: Re: Hardest Back Exercise...Pullups?Deadlift?Barbell Row? Dumbbell Rows?
Post by: Mawse on April 04, 2015, 09:11:02 PM
When my shoulder and elbow started giving me hell, I stopped the wide-grip chins and did neutral grip and close-grip chins. I also like doing shins from rings as I can turn my wrists to keep the movement comfortable on my joints.


I have a pair of these that I loop around the bar for pretty much every kind of pulling

(http://www.gympart.com/mmSHOP/Images/MCA7123.jpg)

my shoulders appreciate the gesture

DB rows have always been 'easy' for me, BB rows and deads used to be a go to before I fucked my lower back, pullups always sucked and were never fun