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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Mega Man on April 06, 2015, 07:43:05 AM
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I'm 31 and been on TRT for a year and a half. I take 200mg test cyp per week.
What can I add too give it a little boost? I was think mabey 300mg deca or 300-400 tren? What's the highest dose of deca and tren that I can add to 200mg test cyp per week?
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Low test with moderate to high tren would probably be your best bet
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Why not up the test? With some UGL test u r obviously going to use UGL tren or deca for size. to cut and leave our trt ide go tren ace 100mg eod
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Why not up the test? With some UGL test u r obviously going to use UGL tren or deca for size sva to cut and leave our trt ide go tren ace Wwcc eod
^^ What he said. At least bump the test to like 500mg a week minimum is what I would recommend
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^^ What he said. At least bump the test to like 500mg a week minimum is what I would recommend
Is 500mg a waste if u want to cut though? Im at week 14 of half bulk (first 9 weeks or so), into a a cut (last 5 so far) using about 400-500mg test cyp only. Should i drop the dose into a cruise while i continue to diet? I just feel like all that nice oil i have would be wasted if im tryin to get cut? Jiz, any opinons here as well?
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Is 500mg a waste if u want to cut though? Im at week 14 of half bulk (first 9 weeks or so), into a a cut (last 5 so far) using about 400-500mg test cyp only. Should i drop the dose into a cruise while i continue to diet? I just feel like all that nice oil i have would be wasted if im tryin to get cut? Jiz, any opinons here as well?
No, I'd keep it at 500 because since you'll be in a caloric deficit you'd probably want to stay as full and thick as possible and not lose any muscle. If you keep the test at at least a moderate dose you shouldn't lose muscle. When I went down to 250/week during my cut I could tell I was getting a lot smaller in the arms and chest then when I bumped it back to 500 a week I got that thickness and fullness back on the same diet. I've also never gone above 500 test a week until recently I just bumped to 750 a week I'm not really a high doser
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Masteron. 1 cc mast e and the same of test e. Can run it forever and stay lean and tight and hold size. Zero sides.
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Masteron. 1 cc mast e and the same of test e. Can run it forever and stay lean and tight and hold size. Zero sides.
That sounds good. Never ran mast though as i heard its hard to find real stuff
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That sounds good. Never ran mast though as i heard its hard to find real stuff
Not hard to find real stuff but tren would give you a much better boost. even deca would give you a better boost than mast and masteron is one of the compounds that also works much much better at a very low body fat
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I may add some epi-tren or superdmz2.0 when i drop back the test a lil.
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Personally, i'd add 500mg of Deca or Eq.
Leave the Test alone.
Or just up the Test.
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Not hard to find real stuff but tren would give you a much better boost. even deca would give you a better boost than mast and masteron is one of the compounds that also works much much better at a very low body fat
If it was tren e then yeah
Half the benefits of running low dose is not sticking yourself eod or ed tho.
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tren, mast and or tbol\var
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If it was tren e then yeah
Half the benefits of running low dose is not sticking yourself eod or ed tho.
Use tren e then if you don't want to pin frequently or you could just run 200mg Test C and 250mg Deca per week. My friend had a Test C and Deca blend of 200mg Test/250mg Deca but he was using 3 shots a week of that. It's your choice really whether you use deca or tren
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I've got some tren e sitting around fucking can't sell it half ass been thinking about using it for 8months lol cant decide because everybody said enan tren is gay I may chicken out and just get some ace because if u r not on tren during summer then u r not cool
I am running tren ace at 350/week atm
Gonna put in tren e at 200mg/week to bump it up a bit
I think this is a good use for e
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since you're doing hrt, only add fast acting compounds. When you go back for bloods, they will come back better I think.
Many options... Don't know your body type, but I'd up the test to 750ish, add something else like dbal, anadrol, many love tren, never used it, but seen the results it delivers.
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Is 500mg a waste if u want to cut though? Im at week 14 of half bulk (first 9 weeks or so), into a a cut (last 5 so far) using about 400-500mg test cyp only. Should i drop the dose into a cruise while i continue to diet? I just feel like all that nice oil i have would be wasted if im tryin to get cut? Jiz, any opinons here as well?
I think Your dose is individual depends on how much mass u carry and previous gear use so if u can hold your size and strength in 2-300 weekly then save your money. Not liking it up the test some more or add a compound I honestlydo not think 500 is a waste as long as u can handle that easily
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Personally, i'd add 500mg of Deca or Eq.
Leave the Test alone.
Or just up the Test.
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Is 500mg of deca ok with just 200mg of test cyp? I heard people say you want at least 50/50 ratio or more test than deca? Also, does eq give u anxiety? I heard some say it does?
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I think Your dose is individual depends on how much mass u carry and previous gear use so if u can hold your size and strength in 2-300 weekly then save your money. Not liking it up the test some more or add a compound I honestlydo not think 500 is a waste as long as u can handle that easily
Thanks, im not a big guy. 6 foot, 210 off season, beach season like 195-200.
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Is 500mg of deca ok with just 200mg of test cyp? I heard people say you want at least 50/50 ratio or more test than deca? Also, does eq give u anxiety? I heard some say it does?
It will be fine as long as you run a low dose of Test.
EQ gives me mild anxiety, nothing really noticeable. Tren makes me very anxious. It really depends on how your body responds, but in general EQ has been noted as giving people mild anxiety.
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It will be fine as long as you run a low dose of Test.
EQ gives me mild anxiety, nothing really noticeable. Tren makes me very anxious. It really depends on how your body responds, but in general EQ has been noted as giving people mild anxiety.
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what sides does deca give you and how does it make you feel?
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Run some npp with your deca at the start so damn awesome I love NPP now lol
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Will this work?
I was thing about adding alpha pharma NPP and Masteron Prop...
keep test at 200mg per week (my doc tests randomly)
Mast P 100mg eod (350/wk)
NPP 100 MG eod (350/wk)
Or just buy a bunch of EQ and run
test cyp 200mg/wk
600 eq/wk
And comment or tips?
I was also wondering if I can add test prop to my weekly trt dose and drop it when I have to get tested?
And get my levels back down to 800-1000?
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How are the injectables from alpha pharma on that domestic site?
I thinking about their NPP, EQ, or masteron. Also, what brand has better oral alpha or ZPHC?
I looking to get ripped...not really bulk up. And I want to keep my trt test at 200mgs. I want to get hard and vascular.
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I think absolutely healthiest would be test prop + AI. But freaky looking will be tren ace + maybe mast (if you're ok with the hair loss risk)
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How are the injectables from alpha pharma on that domestic site?
I thinking about their NPP, EQ, or masteron. Also, what brand has better oral alpha or ZPHC?
I looking to get ripped...not really bulk up. And I want to keep my trt test at 200mgs. I want to get hard and vascular.
Stay on 200mg, diet on 1600 to 1800 cals and u will be hard and dry. Its not much more complicated. Im an endo type and and on TRT so thats really what it comes down to
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I would up Test to at least 500mg/w and add Tren at 100mg EOD or 50mg ED. I would also add EQ 750-900mgs/w
Thats what I like anyway.
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Ok this all depends on your goals. Think pre Dorian Yates (old school ) and Dorian Yates to now (yes very simplistic analogy i know) the old school guys did not use high doses nor use growth hormone. Think buff tight lean and very tapered. Modern guys very 3D and "blocky looking" (which is due to growth hormone and insulin usage. So old school.. if you are looking to just remain anabolic like strong and buff then use say 250 mg test and add 300mg tren or 300 mg deca or EQ or primobolan primo should be used at higher dosages
but i have no experience or the knowledge to advise on this one. (Keep dosages low to keep prolactin issues at bay for deca). If you use growth hormone at hrt dosages eg. 2 to 3 iu ( pharmacy grade ) you could bump test up to 500mg and add 300 mg deca for a long cycle 16 weeks even go to 20 weeks. If you do a long cycle then use hcg.
The reason for long cycle of test and hrt dosage gh is to develop and establish muscle at the cellular level..in theory... give the growth hormone the chance to establish new muscle. Using low dosages of 2 to 3 compounds will minimize side effects. Test loves growth hormone. The old school guys did not have access to ai ancillaries and frequent did not get side effects due to low dosages especially test! I personally would not take test up into higher dosages but that's my personal decision. Do some research on old school cycles. You are asking for trouble down the road (medically) using higher dosages of any compound. If you want to become a monster then follow gh15 s protocol. I'm not that brave. End note just up test to 750 mg is plain silly you are asking for side effects... think harm minimization and usage of low dosage of 2 to 3 decent compounds to get a synergistic effect. Don't want to look puffy with bitch tits. ai ancillaries also carry their own risks long term so why use them when you can avoid them.
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youre talkin smack
low dosages my ass, maybe 50 years ago, yes
not the early dorian though, lol
that was the AAS abuser primetime
pros used grams upon grams from the 70/80s onwards
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Npp mast and low test will give u a good look
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High Tren and low test will work the best together. People have been using that combo for years and years
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Hey sorry, my post wasn't very clear. You are correct when talking 50 yeas ago... this was what I meant by old school cycles and Pre Dorian Yates. And yes, Dorian was one of the early growth hormone users and yes he did use high dosages of aas. Sorry if I confused the issue here. Because we're talking low dosage topic I was trying to add to that philosophy in terms of the synergy effect of using 2 to 3 low dosage compounds to minimize side effects.
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Ok this all depends on your goals. Think pre Dorian Yates (old school ) and Dorian Yates to now (yes very simplistic analogy i know) the old school guys did not use high doses nor use growth hormone. Think buff tight lean and very tapered. Modern guys very 3D and "blocky looking" (which is due to growth hormone and insulin usage. So old school.. if you are looking to just remain anabolic like strong and buff then use say 250 mg test and add 300mg tren or 300 mg deca or EQ or primobolan primo should be used at higher dosages
but i have no experience or the knowledge to advise on this one. (Keep dosages low to keep prolactin issues at bay for deca). If you use growth hormone at hrt dosages eg. 2 to 3 iu ( pharmacy grade ) you could bump test up to 500mg and add 300 mg deca for a long cycle 16 weeks even go to 20 weeks. If you do a long cycle then use hcg.
The reason for long cycle of test and hrt dosage gh is to develop and establish muscle at the cellular level..in theory... give the growth hormone the chance to establish new muscle. Using low dosages of 2 to 3 compounds will minimize side effects. Test loves growth hormone. The old school guys did not have access to ai ancillaries and frequent did not get side effects due to low dosages especially test! I personally would not take test up into higher dosages but that's my personal decision. Do some research on old school cycles. You are asking for trouble down the road (medically) using higher dosages of any compound. If you want to become a monster then follow gh15 s protocol. I'm not that brave. End note just up test to 750 mg is plain silly you are asking for side effects... think harm minimization and usage of low dosage of 2 to 3 decent compounds to get a synergistic effect. Don't want to look puffy with bitch tits. ai ancillaries also carry their own risks long term so why use them when you can avoid them.
Bollocks, the old timers abused as much as modern guys. Bodybuilders have an extreme mentality. You really think they only did 10mg dbol a day? lmao.
Serge nubret was slamming parabolan like there's no tomorrow.
Whether or not you suffer serious health effects depends mostly on genetics. Of course smart use of ancillaries can help a lot too.
And honestly anything above 125 mg test e/ week and 1-2 IUs of GH/day is creeping into low dose cycle territory.
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umm
he just posted that 1 post above you...
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I'm 31 and been on TRT for a year and a half. I take 200mg test cyp per week.
What can I add too give it a little boost? I was think mabey 300mg deca or 300-400 tren? What's the highest dose of deca and tren that I can add to 200mg test cyp per week?
50mg proviron and 50mg turinabol ed for as long as you can afford it
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50mg proviron and 50mg turinabol ed for as long as you can afford it
What would the combo of Proviron and Turinabol provide in conjunction with 200mgs of Test?
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What would the combo of Proviron and Turinabol provide in conjunction with 200mgs of Test?
I'm guessing muscle hardness and deffintion. But I would think masteron would be easier and cheaper for that.
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This discussion seems more about chemical warfare then it it does about bodybuilding.
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What would the combo of Proviron and Turinabol provide in conjunction with 200mgs of Test?
proviron is oral mast. I recommend it over mast prop for 3 reasons. 1 it's simple 2 less painfull injections and less poking yourself 3 I like proviron combined with turinabol because they have similar half life and absorbing rate. Proviron anabolic to androgenic ratio is heavily andro. Turinabol is anabolic , so you are tapping the receptors evenly , both have the binding effects to the estrogen receptor aloof them to be a blocker , causing more free flowing test. Just run it and enjoy , and thank my later
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proviron is oral mast. I recommend it over mast prop for 3 reasons. 1 it's simple 2 less painfull injections and less poking yourself 3 I like proviron combined with turinabol because they have similar half life and absorbing rate. Proviron anabolic to androgenic ratio is heavily andro. Turinabol is anabolic , so you are tapping the receptors evenly , both have the binding effects to the estrogen receptor aloof them to be a blocker , causing more free flowing test. Just run it and enjoy , and thank my later
how would you dose the tbol and proviron
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How are the injectables from alpha pharma on that domestic site?
I thinking about their NPP, EQ, or masteron. Also, what brand has better oral alpha or ZPHC?
I looking to get ripped...not really bulk up. And I want to keep my trt test at 200mgs. I want to get hard and vascular.
1. tren A at 350 a week for 10weeks
2. Var at 80 - 100 ED for 10weeks ( goddamned underdosed UGL shit )