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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
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*golf clap*
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Lik you said Coach, genetics are the most important factor. Then money. Then everything else. Just because all the tests come back perfect does not mean there aren't any issues. Many issues can be masked, hidden, on the threshold, etc. etc. I would be shocked if a Doctor said she was "perfectly healthy", even with those test results.
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Is her head still smaller than yours?
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It seems like doctors are similar to mechanics in the sense that they eliminate potential problems before they find the actual issue. They cover the basics first working backwards from there.
It's obvious she is unhealthy, despite her test results, but some people have better constitutions than others.
Smoking is horrendous for your but not all smokers get cancer or emphysema. Many do as do many non smokers, life is fickle.
She could experience a heart attack while she's in the best shape of her life too, you just never know for sure.
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Lik you said Coach, genetics are the most important factor. Then money. Then everything else. Just because all the tests come back perfect does not mean there aren't any issues. Many issues can be masked, hidden, on the threshold, etc. etc. I would be shocked if a Doctor said she was "perfectly healthy", even with those test results.
I agree and we've talked at length about this. If she doesn't start dropping weight something's going to give.
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I just hope you know that you need to approach a morbidly obese woman different than your top level athletese. Maybe you have experience with these people, not sure. Don't hesitate to do some study or even refer her to somone with more transformation experience. (Like sev).
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Haha 5.2' and 329lbs, bitch must be wider than she is tall
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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
Obesity and tobacco smoking are major risk factors for just about every cancer, cardiac issue, and chronic disease out there--PERIOD
Just because her CMP/CBC came back in range (which I highly doubt, she has a BMI of 60!!!!), doesn't mean she's not due for a bunch of ailments real soon....40-50 is right about where the health of the obese and/or smokers starts to decline sharply
Beyond that, it's a quality of life issue. What kind of life could you possibly lead being that fucking fat? She must feel like shit 24/7
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I just hope you know that you need to approach a morbidly obese woman different than your top level athletese. Maybe you have experience with these people, not sure. Don't hesitate to do some study or even refer her to somone with more transformation experience. (Like sev).
Yes, we've had plenty over the years. It's going to take time. She understands this. Shes commited to two years.
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Hopefully this poor woman doesn't stumble upon the Coach Curse.
Look at Cheick Kongo these days. Guy cant even stop someone from stealing his bike.
(http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/knockout-gif/knockout-gif-9.gif)
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Hopefully this poor woman doesn't stumble upon the Coach Curse.
Look at Cheick Kongo these days. Guy cant even stop someone from stealing his bike.
(http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/knockout-gif/knockout-gif-9.gif)
My paydays from him since 2009 says he can.
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Haha 5.2' and 329lbs, bitch must be wider than she is tall
She's prob wider than phil
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Haha 5.2' and 329lbs, bitch must be wider than she is tall
Roz (Vincenzas ex) looks like that ;D & she runs gym ::)
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Haha 5.2' and 329lbs, bitch must be wider than she is tall
Perhaps she felt comfortable with Coach as her trainer because of their similar physical state.
As an aside, where do you even start with someone like that? You want get them active but even walking could damage joints at that height and weight.
I'd go with having her remove carbs from one meal a day and work from there.
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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
Agree, basically comes down to genetics. But why increase your chances by being that much out of control?
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When is she fighting check Kongo?
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Hopefully this poor woman doesn't stumble upon the Coach Curse.
Look at Cheick Kongo these days. Guy cant even stop someone from stealing his bike.
(http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/knockout-gif/knockout-gif-9.gif)
Hebrew glass jaw of peace.
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Post her pic on here.
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A woman weighing 329 pounds does not happen because of "genetics", it's because she eats like a fucking pig.
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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
That's correct.
Not too long ago, the American Medical Association had to sit down and revisit their Cholesterol guidelines. They found that eating most foods heavy in fat will have very little effect (20%) on your actual cholesterol levels. Moreover, they found that genetics controls 80% of the outcome with regards to you developing Hyperlipidemia.
Granted, if you go out and eat a pound of butter each day, then yes, your cholesterol levels will increase by default, but a few meals here and there won't put you 6-feet under.
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That's correct.
Not too long ago, the American Medical Association had to sit down and revisit their Cholesterol guidelines. They found that eating most foods heavy in fat will have very little effect (20%) on your actual cholesterol levels. Moreover, they found that genetics controls 80% of the outcome with regards to you developing Hyperlipidemia.
Granted, if you go out and eat a pound of butter each day, then yes, your cholesterol levels will increase by default, but a few meals here and there won't put you 6-feet under.
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There are a few points being missed in this thread I suspect.
Her bloods came back "perfect". I am willing to bet that they did not come back perfect at all, just within normal range.
Normal = Homer Simpson, especially in modern day USA. You do not want to be "normal".
I would also be willing to bet that lipids only looked at things like HDL and LDL rather than delving deeper into cholesterol (as one small example) where the experts now know there is much more accurate information to be found.
Was a fasting blood sugar test done on her? I doubt it, she can't be that fat and not be pre-diabetic. What about HbA1C?
Someone like that is a walking time bomb and her doctor is a c u n t for giving her false hope and legitimising her gluttonous slow suicide.
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Perhaps she felt comfortable with Coach as her trainer because of their similar physical state.
As an aside, where do you even start with someone like that? You want get them active but even walking could damage joints at that height and weight.
I'd go with having her remove carbs from one meal a day and work from there.
I laugh everytime someone says "I'm out of shape" or "in a similar state" lol
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I laugh everytime someone says "I'm out of shape" or "in a similar state" lol
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/im-in-shape-round-is-a-shape.jpg)
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I laugh everytime someone says "I'm out of shape" or "in a similar state" lol
If you were to fight MMA at your weight, you'd be in the same class as your "athlete" Kongo who's 6'4".
Maybe you're in fat power lifter shape, but, you're 50lbs above functional athlete shape.
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If you were to fight MMA at your weight, you'd be in the same class as your "athlete" Kongo who's 6'4".
Maybe you're in fat power lifter shape, but, you're 50lbs above functional athlete shape.
I'm not an MMA fighter and my BF last tested via hydrostatic was about 14.7%. I train heavy, always have. My cardio consists of prowler sprints, strongman medleys/circuits, battle ropes and 45 miles (give or take) a week on a beach cruiser and speed and agility work on the weekends as well as running bleachers. I'm 52, I'll be 53 in August. I have NO desire to look even remotely like an ambercrombe model or "ZZYZZ" or whatever the fuck his name is. My BP is 130-40/70 depending on how stressful my day is.
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She has an incredible constitution - that ability to withstands negative inputs to the body.
Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue did enough drugs to kill a horse, and he's 50+ and healthy today.
People OD on 1/10 that kinda dose daily.
Ronnie Coleman has done more "everything" than all of getbig combined...
but Chris Cook coudln't do it for more than a year. It's all constitution.
This woman is built to be able to take demands of being short and 300 pounds. That'd kill many people by age 35.
She's got a good constitution.
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I'm not an MMA fighter and my BF last tested via hydrostatic was about 14.7%. I train heavy, always have. My cardio consists of prowler sprints, strongman medleys/circuits, battle ropes and 45 miles (give or take) a week on a beach cruiser and speed and agility work on the weekends as well as running bleachers. I'm 52, I'll be 53 in August. I have NO desire to look even remotely like an ambercrombe model or "ZZYZZ" or whatever the fuck his name is. My BP is 130-40/70 depending on how stressful my day is.
Makes me want to sneak up and yell 'Democrat,' just to see a spike. ;D
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I laugh everytime someone says "I'm out of shape" or "in a similar state" lol
what do ya weigh these days, coach?
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what do ya weigh these days, coach?
Down to 224 this morning. 20lbs to go. My biggest problem is my sleep is for shit.
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I'm not an MMA fighter and my BF last tested via hydrostatic was about 14.7%. I train heavy, always have. My cardio consists of prowler sprints, strongman medleys/circuits, battle ropes and 45 miles (give or take) a week on a beach cruiser and speed and agility work on the weekends as well as running bleachers. I'm 52, I'll be 53 in August. I have NO desire to look even remotely like an ambercrombe model or "ZZYZZ" or whatever the fuck his name is. My BP is 130-40/70 depending on how stressful my day is.
I am sure you are fitter than most on here and I also prefer being a bit heavier instead of being so I can completely relate to what you say there and you're obviously
not one of those delusional perma-bulkers but actually a very muscular guy.
The one thing though that always bothered me very much was my facial looks.. I mean I am certainly not overly vain, I don't spend a lot of time on my looks but still
we all want to look good somehow and the bloated face does ruin a lot in my opinion.
In your case it's not as bad because as I said before you have a masculine face (no homo) so maybe you are still satisfied but I just look horrible with a bloated face, like a completely different person.
I'll attach some extreme examples to make my point clear...
Does it not bother you?
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Slimmer Coach is nice
Bulking Coach is very mean
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By the way.. believe it or not but even in the bloated pictures I was NOT fat, you could still see some of my abs, I guess I was around 15% bf at that time... and close to setting a new national benchpress record in the teen division (never happened in the end but I was CLOSE :o ;D) while still being able to run 10km in a reasonable time.
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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
There are thousands of cases of people getting their blood work done and it comes back perfect only to go back 6 months to a year later and their a total mess...Also doctors don't give many people the exact info because most people won't know what it meant anyways...People get their blood pressure done once a year and if it isn't high that one time, they think they don't have high blood pressure...Which isn't always the case. Blood pressure changes sometimes dramatically through out the day...Also, many people lie about what their doctors tells them...
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By the way.. believe it or not but even in the bloated pictures I was NOT fat, you could still see some of my abs, I guess I was around 15% bf at that time... and close to setting a new national benchpress record in the teen division (never happened in the end but I was CLOSE :o ;D) while still being able to run 10km in a reasonable time.
Sorry about your eye
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Slimmer Coach is nice
Bulking Coach is very mean
I agree. I like being leaner but I hate sacrificing strength. But really don't think I'll be sacrificing much. I've dropped 13lbs but my weights are the same.
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Sorry about your eye
Drunk night out...
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Big dudes, all the way big dudes..
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I agree and we've talked at length about this. If she doesn't start dropping weight something's going to give.
I agree.
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It's a matter of genetics. Let me explain. I have a 45 year old women that started with me on Monday. She's 5'2 and weighed in at 329lbs. She understands where she's at fitness wise and knows she needs to drop around 200lbs. Lots of things behind this story. Depression, loss of family, etc. She sold her house in LA, quit her job and moved to the beach. She was kind of a big wig in the entertainment industry working for Disney but after 22 years the stress got her. But here's the thing. When someone comes to us that large we (to legally cover our asses) require a doctors release. Since she got regular check ups and blood work. EVERYTHING came back perfect. From her BP to her Lipids. Oh, BTW, up until last week she was a two pack a day smoker.
Being over weight is a risk factor in itself. A heart has to work harder to supply that extra weight with blood yet the heart muscle isn't in shape to accomplish that task over time. We all know the big fat guy who never exercised, drinks like a fish and smokes with excellent blood work. I know someone who is 100lbs over weight with under 200 cholesterol. A genetic factor involving the liver causes many with high cholesterol despite exercise and excellent diet to make it but I digress. Obviously good genetics are an important factor in health.
If you have ever been around really old people there are just about zero obese people who are 75 and over.
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Down to 224 this morning. 20lbs to go. My biggest problem is my sleep is for shit.
Are you having those nightmares again, about obama winning a 3rd term?