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Title: Training for over a decade - have some questions?
Post by: cephissus on April 15, 2015, 08:26:17 AM
1.  Is your training more structured or instinctual?  In other words, do you tend to follow a strict plan, or do you adjust constantly based on how you feel?

2.  Do you still try to 'progress' or are you happy staying within limits?  How do you hope to progress?  More weight, bigger muscles, reduce injuries, etc?
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: headhuntersix on April 15, 2015, 08:28:43 AM
Completly structured down to the weight to be taken and reps...accessory work is all higher reps and feel.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: CalvinH on April 15, 2015, 08:29:09 AM
I know what body parts or part I'm going to workout when I get to the gym but not what exercises I'm going to do until I start.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Waller on April 15, 2015, 08:30:34 AM
More structured in the sense of picking certain exercises to not aggravate injuries. The rest is pretty much dependant on my mood in the gym.

Still trying to progress in both strength and size. I trained natural for about 8 years before taking the plunge so have plenty of growing room.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Grape Ape on April 15, 2015, 08:31:19 AM
1.  Is your training more structured or instinctual?  In other words, do you tend to follow a strict plan, or do you adjust constantly based on how you feel?

2.  Do you still try to 'progress' or are you happy staying within limits?  How do you hope to progress?  More weight, bigger muscles, reduce injuries, etc?

A mix.  But I definitely find I get much more measurable results when I follow a structured plan.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 15, 2015, 08:33:44 AM
More structured.  Years ago I used to train instinctively and I didn't get the results I wanted.  I found that I need to train each bodypart twice a week.  Once I kept a tighter schedule by body responded.  I'm natural so I don't have much room for error.

At this point the only way I can improve is to prioritize my weak points, deltoids being one of them.  I started bombing the shit out of my shoulders a while back and they did respond.  I actually look better now than I did years ago.  Still a work in progress.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 15, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
Structured, but I'll occasionally improvise according to how I feel.

As far as progress, I still try to learn new things about the body and nutrition, but, at this point, I'm just trying to keep the angle of decline as small as possible.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: SuperTed on April 15, 2015, 08:35:08 AM
I've been training pretty consistently for 10 years. My training is more structured now than before.

I'm natural so obviously maxed out years ago but I'm still trying to improve my overall conditioning and strength. Any added lean muscle I can add at this stage is a bonus but unrealistic.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Leatherneck on April 15, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Much less structured.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: BB on April 15, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
Moderately structured. I have a general idea of what I want each training cycle, and with in it month to month,  But week to week and daily daily stuff could change a bit.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 15, 2015, 08:45:03 AM
only thing predetermined in the body part.  Rest is by feel.  If I'm feeling strong I'll push the weights up a little harder.  If I am getting wicked pumps I'll go higher reps.  For each body part I have about 5-6 exercises that I choose 3-4 from.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: headhuntersix on April 15, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
I think after 10 plus years of training its obvious what you need and don't. Most here are BB's so its atleast easier to bring up or concentrate on lagging area's. As a powerlifter training for a meet I lay out 12 weeks with my 2nd attempts driving my % based numbers. I plug them in and work through the cycle. I'm pretty strict as to not taking extra weight or going for it more then I should. I'll do two high weight/high rep days on deads per cycle and then program extra heavy reverse band singles or raw weight on squats. My accessory work is much more BB based and done at higher reps. The issue is with my training, I can't miss a day or those numbers are gone. I don't miss days so I'm very careful with diet, form and injuries.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: bigmc on April 15, 2015, 08:53:45 AM
train totally on instinct now

and never go low reps on anything
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: MAXX on April 15, 2015, 08:53:52 AM
Pretty much instinctual. I try to train the bodyparts or lifts I want to improve as often as they can recover from it. Which usually means every 5 days. But sometimes if I feel weak and shitty that day I'll rest that part another day or two.

Try to progress but also try to stay away from singles or low reps. Keep it above 5 reps most of the time.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 15, 2015, 09:01:07 AM
I still use a structured 4 day split, even after 35 years of training.

At this point, hanging on to whatever strength I have, staying in 1/2 decent shape, and not getting injured are my priorities.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Donny on April 15, 2015, 09:01:58 AM
i donīt keep a log now.. i change round my exercises on impulse..HOWEVER i know they hit the muscle Group(s) in a similar way.  maybe DB press for chest, maybe a bar. Reps i change now and again too but generally keep to higher reps on my lower body,abs,calfs. You know your own Body. Supersets/giant sets..mix it up.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Julio Ceasar on April 15, 2015, 09:14:14 AM
Follow strict plan! 6-7 days/week added regular cardio

More careful with food, eat less!

Progress for me is not change excercises reps volyme and all that shit the media try to teach you! Progress come with consistancy doing your shit every day year out year in.  

Lets see how far I can take it! Always looking your best is a nice thing to feel! Thats your gift when your a natty compared to the non natties! U can never fall! U got what u got so to say! 36yrs old 200 pound 6"3!

Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: ritch on April 15, 2015, 09:39:28 AM
Nice pic, but points taken off for the fact it looks totally gay to be naked and the pic taken so fuckin' low. DOn't need to see that shit to know you're lean so stop with the queer bait already...

over 2 decades here and yes,structure for sure. "Those who fail don't plan to fail, they fail to plan"

3 on one off now, every thing trained every 9.5 days. LOL at all the drones who follow what they read in books in regards to how long a muscle needs to recover. Sure... If you train like most people and most people look like shit.

Even on gear.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Overload on April 15, 2015, 09:47:11 AM
only thing predetermined in the body part.  Rest is by feel.  If I'm feeling strong I'll push the weights up a little harder.  If I am getting wicked pumps I'll go higher reps.  For each body part I have about 5-6 exercises that I choose 3-4 from.

That's about what i'm doing these days.

Very instictive and i change it as i go along.  I haven't followed a strict routine in years and it makes training more enjoyable for me.

I just train hard and adjust as i go.  Some days heavier than others, but i change it up a lot.


8)
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 15, 2015, 09:47:41 AM
Follow strict plan! 6-7 days/week added regular cardio

More careful with food, eat less!

Progress for me is not change excercises reps volyme and all that shit the media try to teach you! Progress come with consistancy doing your shit every day year out year in.  

Lets see how far I can take it! Always looking your best is a nice thing to feel! Thats your gift when your a natty compared to the non natties! U can never fall! U got what u got so to say! 36yrs old 200 pound 6"3!



Looking good G.  The fuck is up with that shower curtain though?  Looks like some bozo the clown shit.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Julio Ceasar on April 15, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
Looking good G.  The fuck is up with that shower curtain though?  Looks like some bozo the clown shit.

Colour is nice! Fresh baby! Its fresh :D
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: The Italian Lifter on April 15, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
after 24 years of training and many injuries the list of exercises I can still do is becoming more short by the day.

the core of the training is more or less the same, auxiliary work, rep scheme, rest periods and order of exercises is what I vary.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 15, 2015, 11:05:16 AM
That's about what i'm doing these days.

Very instictive and i change it as i go along.  I haven't followed a strict routine in years and it makes training more enjoyable for me.

I just train hard and adjust as i go.  Some days heavier than others, but i change it up a lot.


8)

Sometimes my workouts can be as short as 20 minutes and other days I go 1 hour and 1/2 if I have endless energy.  There are days when I hit the right nutritional window and my pumps are insane and can barely rep out what I want and others where I'm just flat but feel strong.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: funk51 on April 15, 2015, 11:13:55 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D   53 years of training pretty structured 3 days a week all above the waist.. walking year round and swimming in summer are my only leg cardio work at this point in life...     :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: The Italian Lifter on April 15, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D   53 years of training pretty structured 3 days a week all above the waist.. walking year round and swimming in summer are my only leg cardio work at this point in life...     :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

you too have problems in your knees?
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Simple Simon on April 15, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
totally random, I dont know what Im going to train until i get to the gym.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: njflex on April 15, 2015, 11:16:00 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D   53 years of training pretty structured 3 days a week all above the waist.. walking year round and swimming in summer are my only leg cardio work at this point in life...     :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
HOW OLD ARE U ????
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Rudee on April 15, 2015, 11:55:03 AM
Been training since the mid 80's.  I change routines around here and there.  No longer need to go super heavy.   Currently doing full body workouts M/W/F which has me in and out of the gym in about an hour. 
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: funk51 on April 15, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
HOW OLD ARE U ????
63 years old actually picked up my first barbell at 8 years old  but didn't start to train seriously till i was 10... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D they 'll have to pry the barbell out of my dead hands.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 15, 2015, 12:21:58 PM
Colour is nice! Fresh baby! Its fresh :D

I hope you don't let any women see that shit.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: galain on April 15, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
Structured. Unless the gym is busy and I can't get to what I want to use - then I'll improvise.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Azzaro on April 15, 2015, 01:31:13 PM
Nice thread.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: cephissus on April 15, 2015, 08:27:17 PM
Been training since the mid 80's.  I change routines around here and there.  No longer need to go super heavy.   Currently doing full body workouts M/W/F which has me in and out of the gym in about an hour.  

Same here.  I started lifting three days a week, doing cardio three.  I do legs or running in the morning, upper body or other cardio after work.  Evening workout wakes me up after a day of sitting at a desk (or standing).

Like many others, i be become increasingly instinctual over time.  I pretty much always do the same exercises, but reps and sets are never the same.  I back off and push on as I feel -- no longer forceyslef to get X reps or sets if its feeling bad.

I feel a lot better this way.  Before, I would always ignore pains and try to tough it out.  In the end, though, that approach just led me to ignore my body's feedback... I got lost.

Once I started adjusting things based on how I felt instead of blindly 'soldiering on' and trying to hold myself to a 'rational' plan, I finally started feeling pretty good about my workouts.  Well, for the past year or so anyway...
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: The Scott on April 15, 2015, 08:38:39 PM
Looking good G.  The fuck is up with that shower curtain though?  Looks like some bozo the clown shit.

His shower curtain looks like the mat from the old game, "TWISTER".   
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2015, 08:44:17 PM
1.  Is your training more structured or instinctual?  In other words, do you tend to follow a strict plan, or do you adjust constantly based on how you feel?

2.  Do you still try to 'progress' or are you happy staying within limits?  How do you hope to progress?  More weight, bigger muscles, reduce injuries, etc?

Structured. Like powerlift, for about as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 17, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
Mine is always structured and planned out in a workout journal. I think the majority of good bodybuilders basically use instinct. They might know the body part or parts they are training but go by feel. Having a good day then train hard. A bad day then lower the weight. I think in general I have a good work ethic and I know the instinctive method of training would work for me but I'm just too analytical and rigid.

When I run it's always basically instinctive. I might say I will do a three mile loop. If I'm feeling bad I will just do two miles. If I'm feeling great I will blast the three miles. I can't imagine a runner plotting out his times and distance keeping too a rigid schedule.  Maybe for interval work.  

Right now I'm planning out my workouts in advance. I hope I will stop the insanity and train by feel some time soon in my training life.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: _aj_ on April 17, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
Structured in what body part. The exercises change all the time.

Goals are more size within reason and general fat loss/more ripped. I let my wife's eyes tell me if I am on the right track.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 17, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
I guess this is both extremes. One guy writes down the weight and exercises used for the day. He follows his journal like a script.

The other extreme is the guy who walks into the gym knowing he is working back today. If he feels like starting with pulldowns he will. If chins hits his mood he will start with that. The next exercise he might think the second exercise I did last time was seated cable rows with a V handle. I think today I'll do barbell rows and so on.

The instinctive guy also plays with reps. One day he might do benches doing a 6-4-2-1 four the four sets. Next he might do 4 sets of 12 with a light weight.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: JasonH on April 17, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
I have a structured routine when it comes to what day I train what body part but once I'm in the gym and I know what body part I'm training it goes purely on instinct as to what exercises I do. Rep ranges are always around 10-15 per set. Sometimes I'll go as high as 4 sets per exercise, other times I'll only do 2 sets and move on to another exercise, just to feel like I'm hitting all angles.

Diet is structured, and I still get pissed if I miss meals. Been training 22 years now.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: _aj_ on April 17, 2015, 04:40:37 PM
I have a structured routine when it comes to what day I train what body part but once I'm in the gym and I know what body part I'm training it goes purely on instinct as to what exercises I do. Rep ranges are always around 10-15 per set. Sometimes I'll go as high as 4 sets per exercise, other times I'll only do 2 sets and move on to another exercise, just to feel like I'm hitting all angles.

Diet is structured, and I still get pissed if I miss meals. Been training 22 years now.

Word.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: The Scott on April 17, 2015, 06:07:04 PM
1.  Is your training more structured or instinctual?  In other words, do you tend to follow a strict plan, or do you adjust constantly based on how you feel?

2.  Do you still try to 'progress' or are you happy staying within limits?  How do you hope to progress?  More weight, bigger muscles, reduce injuries, etc?

I am in my fortieth  year of training now and I can honestly say that I have to train somewhat instinctively now because of all of those years gone by.  I try to progress and sometimes do but ultimately I fall back and then regroup to find another pass through the mountains as it were.  I train to look and feel the best I can. Sometimes my ego gets the better of me and on those rare occasions I succeed at satisfying what I call the Kid inside (i.e., a younger me) I remember who and what started me down this path. 

A goal.  To look like Reeves, Arnold, Draper and other greats that are now a part of the past but still make me train for a better physical future. 

I hope I've made some sense here.  I am, after all, old.   ;D

Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: da_vinci on April 18, 2015, 03:04:41 AM
Follow strict plan! 6-7 days/week added regular cardio

More careful with food, eat less!

Progress for me is not change excercises reps volyme and all that shit the media try to teach you! Progress come with consistancy doing your shit every day year out year in.  

Lets see how far I can take it! Always looking your best is a nice thing to feel! Thats your gift when your a natty compared to the non natties! U can never fall! U got what u got so to say! 36yrs old 200 pound 6"3!



Well done, But you shoud've aimed for a lil lower when taking a pic as cock is really the only thing that getbiggers care about.
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 03:21:53 AM
63 years old actually picked up my first barbell at 8 years old  but didn't start to train seriously till i was 10... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D they 'll have to pry the barbell out of my dead hands.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
when i see your Gold weights i think of James Bond...lol
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: wes on April 18, 2015, 05:39:48 AM
Actual bodybuilding thread reported.   :(
Title: Re: for those who have been training for over a decade
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2015, 06:15:41 AM
Actual bodybuilding thread reported.   :(
;D