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FMW will easily outpoint Manny Pacquaio
he may even KO him
I would love manny to KO Floyd but Floyd is defensively too slick and still too fast, it would have been a closer fight in 2010
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I wanna see that little fuckin weasel Mayweather pounded to blackout!
I'm sure Manny has studied him and is ready.
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im sure manny and Roach have studied him and looked for weakness and have a game plan but FMW is a truly a defensive wizard and faster than manny
manny has lost some hand speed the last 3 years and he is getting easier to hit the last 2 years
itd be great if manny could KO Floyd and shut him up but I don't think this will hjappen
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Yawn it's going to be a boring 12 round decision fight
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Yawn it's going to be a boring 12 round decision fight
Totally
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odds say one or both have over-trained, based on video footage. both are cherry pickers now. no matter what you see on the screen, vegas will make it a split. if fmw can pot shot successfully, he wins the SD. if manny can hit him anywhere (punch stat don't even matter in boxing anymore) and throw 70 punches a round, he will get the SD because it's worth another mega-fight to vegas.
Part II in September
Fight is bullshit and so is the under card.
my guess is, it looks like fmw vs marquez when fmw came out of retirement. manny is just too small.
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Floyd Mayweather: I'm better than Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson
Floyd Mayweather believes he is a better boxer than Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson.
The 38-year-old welterweight, who is undefeated in 47 professional fights, plans to cement his legacy by beating Manny Pacquiao when the two meet at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on May 2 in the most anticipated match of the modern era.
The contest, which will be screened live on Sky Sports Box Office, is set to be the richest fight in boxing history with an anticipated generated income in excess of $300m.
Pacquiao has been beaten five times in his career but has won world titles at six different weights, while Mayweather’s flawless record means he is rarely modest about his abilities.
Mayweather says he has already eclipsed the careers of Robinson and Ali, the man widely regarded as the greatest boxer in the history of the sport.
Robinson is regularly cited as the greatest 'pound-for-pound' fighter and is the commonly-accepted gold standard for non-heavyweights with 173 wins in 200 professional bouts.
“No one can ever brainwash me to make me believe that Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali were better than me,” Mayweather told ESPN.
“But one thing I will do, I’m going to take my hat off to them and respect those guys that paved the way for me to be where I’m at today.”
Mayweather specificially referenced Ali’s 1978 defeat to Leon Spinks as an indicator of his own superiority, and was also critical of the latter’s famous ‘rope a dope’ tactics in his 1974 world heavyweight title win over George Foreman.
“Leon Spinks only had seven fights,” he said. “Never put a fighter in there with Floyd Mayweather with seven fights.
“Take punishment and let a man tire yourself out from beating you? You hit him with a few punches and go down and quit and you want to be glorified for that?”
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Floyd Mayweather: I'm better than Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson
Pacquiao has been beaten five times in his career but has won world titles at six different weights, while Mayweather’s flawless record means he is rarely modest about his abilities.
i know fmw has never been a lineal champ what about manny? i believe 4 of those belts had catch weights attached to them.
the big 4, srl, hearns, duran and benitz, at 147 beat these two clowns. maybe fmw gets past duran if the srl 2 duran shows up.
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Muhammad Ali is better because he was around 220LBS.... He would have a 70lb advantage over Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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i know fmw has never been a lineal champ what about manny? i believe 4 of those belts had catch weights attached to them.
the big 4, srl, hearns, duran and benitz, at 147 beat these two clowns. maybe fmw gets past duran if the srl 2 duran shows up.
I'll grant you that possibility at 147 but in terms of P4P careerwise, comparing Mayweather to Ali, Robinson or Duran is a joke.
Roberto Duran was bulletproof at lightweight.
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If they would just remove weight classes we would never have to hear about little fighters and this P4P crap. Utter nonsense! ;D
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I believe this will be an easy 12 round decision win for floyd. His place as an all time great is already established and he should retire after he beats pacquiao. There is no one left to fight and he stands a good chance of getting beat these days if he continues.
Floyds personality makes people view him in a more negative light i believe. In the decades after he retires though he will get his credit as one of the very best skilled fighters of all time.
Career wise, he can't compare with guys like Ali or duran, and he's missed out on not having a proper rivalry like hagler, leonard, hearns and duran had, but for longevity, dominance and sheer skill, there are very few who i think can beat floyd.
Pacquiao on the other hand, also has his place in history cemented, but a lot of it is smoke and mirrors. He has a great story of coming from poverty and making it to the top Ala Duran, but his catchweight fights against opponents carefully chosen, his alphabet titles, drug use suspicions etc, they all count against him in my book. He has the popularity to rival anyone, but his skills and opponents he has faced are not comparable to mayweathers.
agree on FMW but disagree on Pac
Pac fought all the top fighters in all the divisions he has been in and ducked no one and except for JMM dominated all of them including Tim bradley
you cant ask for more than that
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THIS FIGHT WONT HAPPEN
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THIS FIGHT WONT HAPPEN
Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao contract still not signed
Eleven days before the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, an actual contract for the bout to take place at the MGM Grand still has not been signed.
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wasn't signing the contract that he received a draft of on April 15 because it wasn't what he agreed to when the MGM, Mayweather Promotions and he signed the term sheet a couple months ago.
"We agreed that we would all be signatories on the final contract and then they sent us a draft of the agreement and it excluded us," said Arum, who promotes Pacquiao.
Though eleven days away, the fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is still without a signed contract. Paul Archuleta/FilmMagic
Not being a signatory to the contract means that Top Rank wouldn't have control of decisions during the fight, including in-arena production, video content and music.
"They don't want us to have any say," Arum said. "So whether they came up with the deal between Mayweather and MGM before or after our agreement, they've committed fraud either way. That's what we're enmeshed in."
Arum said later Tuesday night that, after asking for three weeks, he finally received the manifest, which carves out who gets seats where.
"It's one of the things I was most concerned about," said Arum, adding that he thinks it's possible the contract gets signed Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
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THIS FIGHT WONT HAPPEN
Contract isn't signed and a ticket hasn't been "officially" sold.
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Leonard, Hearns and Duran all beat Mayweather and Manny. They both have a chance vs Benitez. Donald Curry probably beats both of them as well. 154lbs in the 80's? Forget about it.
Mike McCallum would run both of them out of the ring.
The Marquez factor doesn't figure in to the outcome of this fight. Number 1, Manny is much faster and dynamic the Marquez. He will be able to punch Mayweather in the face. This is a real fight.
The biggest mistake people make is thinking that Marquez and Floyd are counter punchers, therefore Floyd will beat Manny because he's a better counter puncher than Marquez. Yes, he is better, but
a different type of counter puncher.
Marquez is willing to stand in the pocket and punch with Manny or anyone else he fights. Floyd lets you shoot your wad and then returns fire. If you let Manny shoot his wad, your going to take some leather.
Even if it's on the arms, sides or shoulders, Manny is going to hit you. This is where Manny can win the fight. He is still fleet of foot and hand and should be able to get off combinations while Floyd shoulder rolls and l
lays on the ropes. The key is for Manny not to get greedy. To me, Floyd is going to have to punch with Manny at some point and that could be trouble.
Don't be surprised if Manny's speed and pop catches Floyd off guard in the 1st couple rounds. If it does, will Floyd have the sac that Marquez does to fight through it? We shall see.
With all that being said, I still have to favor Floyd. His boxing IQ and his physical strength are very impressive. I think he survives some early trouble and eeks out a very, very close points win.
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Contract not signed yet?
Fuckin' organization of bandits and shaddy people, just wow...
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Contract not signed yet?
Fuckin' organization of bandits and shaddy people, just wow...
10 days away
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Leonard, Hearns and Duran all beat Mayweather and Manny. They both have a chance vs Benitez. Donald Curry probably beats both of them as well. 154lbs in the 80's? Forget about it.
Mike McCallum would run both of them out of the ring.
The Marquez factor doesn't figure in to the outcome of this fight. Number 1, Manny is much faster and dynamic the Marquez. He will be able to punch Mayweather in the face. This is a real fight.
The biggest mistake people make is thinking that Marquez and Floyd are counter punchers, therefore Floyd will beat Manny because he's a better counter puncher than Marquez. Yes, he is better, but
a different type of counter puncher.
Marquez is willing to stand in the pocket and punch with Manny or anyone else he fights. Floyd lets you shoot your wad and then returns fire. If you let Manny shoot his wad, your going to take some leather.
Even if it's on the arms, sides or shoulders, Manny is going to hit you. This is where Manny can win the fight. He is still fleet of foot and hand and should be able to get off combinations while Floyd shoulder rolls and l
lays on the ropes. The key is for Manny not to get greedy. To me, Floyd is going to have to punch with Manny at some point and that could be trouble.
Don't be surprised if Manny's speed and pop catches Floyd off guard in the 1st couple rounds. If it does, will Floyd have the sac that Marquez does to fight through it? We shall see.
With all that being said, I still have to favor Floyd. His boxing IQ and his physical strength are very impressive. I think he survives some early trouble and eeks out a very, very close points win.
8) very good post
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Leonard, Hearns and Duran all beat Mayweather and Manny. They both have a chance vs Benitez. Donald Curry probably beats both of them as well. 154lbs in the 80's? Forget about it.
Mike McCallum would run both of them out of the ring.
The Marquez factor doesn't figure in to the outcome of this fight. Number 1, Manny is much faster and dynamic the Marquez. He will be able to punch Mayweather in the face. This is a real fight.
The biggest mistake people make is thinking that Marquez and Floyd are counter punchers, therefore Floyd will beat Manny because he's a better counter puncher than Marquez. Yes, he is better, but
a different type of counter puncher.
Marquez is willing to stand in the pocket and punch with Manny or anyone else he fights. Floyd lets you shoot your wad and then returns fire. If you let Manny shoot his wad, your going to take some leather.
Even if it's on the arms, sides or shoulders, Manny is going to hit you. This is where Manny can win the fight. He is still fleet of foot and hand and should be able to get off combinations while Floyd shoulder rolls and l
lays on the ropes. The key is for Manny not to get greedy. To me, Floyd is going to have to punch with Manny at some point and that could be trouble.
Don't be surprised if Manny's speed and pop catches Floyd off guard in the 1st couple rounds. If it does, will Floyd have the sac that Marquez does to fight through it? We shall see.
With all that being said, I still have to favor Floyd. His boxing IQ and his physical strength are very impressive. I think he survives some early trouble and eeks out a very, very close points win.
good points
Floyd had some trouble with Judah in the 1st 2 rounds, adjusting to Judah's speed and southpaw stance
manny could trouble FMW early but FMW is a great boxing brain and makes adjustments , just see the Judah + mosley fights
Manny never fought anyone nearly as fast as FMW and I predict Manny will have prblems evading FMW's lead right and also Right counters
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good points
Floyd had some trouble with Judah in the 1st 2 rounds, adjusting to Judah's speed and southpaw stance
manny could trouble FMW early but FMW is a great boxing brain and makes adjustments , just see the Judah + mosley fights
Manny never fought anyone nearly as fast as FMW and I predict Manny will have prblems evading FMW's lead right and also Right counters
Agree with you about the Judah fight except that it took Floyd 4-5 rounds to figure him out. I remember having Judah up 4-1 and think Judah may have been screwed out of a knockdown
against Floyd. Manny is WAY better than Judah.
Shane Mosley is one of my favorite fighters of the past 20 years. But after the Vernon Forrest fights, he was kind of a front runner. What I mean by that is that he could be beaten mentally and would go
into survival mode. See his fights with Floyd and Manny. Manny is a true competitor in every sense of the word and will not get discouraged to the point where he ever quits trying to find a way to win.
See his first fight with Erik Morales. He was down 7-3 and finally figured Morales out in the 11th and won the last two rounds big. It carried over to their rematch and he blew him out.
I agree Floyd's quick right hands will trouble Manny, but Manny's ability to get himself into good punching position and accurate, crisp punches are going to trouble Floyd as well.
Bottom line, Floyd is going to have to fight. Potshotting aint gonna get it done. Manny will not stop trying.
If you put a gun to my head and tell me I have to make a prediction, I'll go with Floyd by real close decision. I mean real close. But my gut tells me it's gonna be good and I can certainly see
Manny winning. I guess it's why they fight the fights. Can't wait.
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Agree with you about the Judah fight except that it took Floyd 4-5 rounds to figure him out. I remember having Judah up 4-1 and think Judah may have been screwed out of a knockdown
against Floyd. Manny is WAY better than Judah.
Shane Mosley is one of my favorite fighters of the past 20 years. But after the Vernon Forrest fights, he was kind of a front runner. What I mean by that is that he could be beaten mentally and would go
into survival mode. See his fights with Floyd and Manny. Manny is a true competitor in every sense of the word and will not get discouraged to the point where he ever quits trying to find a way to win.
See his first fight with Erik Morales. He was down 7-3 and finally figured Morales out in the 11th and won the last two rounds big. It carried over to their rematch and he blew him out.
I agree Floyd's quick right hands will trouble Manny, but Manny's ability to get himself into good punching position and accurate, crisp punches are going to trouble Floyd as well.
Bottom line, Floyd is going to have to fight. Potshotting aint gonna get it done. Manny will not stop trying.
If you put a gun to my head and tell me I have to make a prediction, I'll go with Floyd by real close decision. I mean real close. But my gut tells me it's gonna be good and I can certainly see
Manny winning. I guess it's why they fight the fights. Can't wait.
a draw is very possible too or FMW by split decision and rematch for even more $
I just hope the fight is not a boring stinker
hopefully it'll be exciting, dramatic like Pac v Marquez 4 was
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I just saw the pre-hype documentary on HBO and the contract is signed. Mayweather signed his life away. This is bigger than Ali-Frazier
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Imagine if a pallet of money (bound from Congress to ISIS) happened to fall out of a plane, fall thru the roof, and crush Mayweather right before the fight started.
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Agree with you about the Judah fight except that it took Floyd 4-5 rounds to figure him out. I remember having Judah up 4-1 and think Judah may have been screwed out of a knockdown
against Floyd.
if judah had heart what would floyd figure out
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I just saw the pre-hype documentary on HBO and the contract is signed. Mayweather signed his life away. This is bigger than Ali-Frazier
true
this is THE biggest fight in the history of boxing, it could be another 50 years or more until another fight eclipses this in terms of $ generated, anticipation,
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It's generation selfie Mayweather vs. old school training hard Manny.
Money mayweather uses his platform to brag about his color-coded fleet of cars. He went to jail, been arrested a handful of times for beating on women. If you're arrested 3 or 4 times for beating women... how many times have you actually done it?
this is a classic good vs. evil fight.
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mayweather trains harder than anyone.
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mayweather trains harder than anyone.
this is very true
FMW is the consummate [pro when it comes to training for a fight
u NEVER see him get gassed down the stretch in a fight
phenomenal stamina
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FMW by decision.
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Thing about mayweather that he never gets credit for, he's tough and he has power... He could KO Pac just as easy as Pac could do him... He figures anyone out after a few rounds, only way to beat him is with relentless workrate...
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(http://fightnights.com/uploads/manny-pacquiao.jpg)
I hope PacMan fucks him up!
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Thing about mayweather that he never gets credit for, he's tough and he has power... He could KO Pac just as easy as Pac could do him... He figures anyone out after a few rounds, only way to beat him is with relentless workrate...
he does have decent power
and he's a very underrated body puncher
pacman had a much better shot if the fight was in 2010
he's older, slower and easier to hit than 2010
the 1st 4-5 rounds will be the most dangerous for FMW ala the Judah fight, until FMW can workout pac's style, make the adjustments and take over
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can't teach an old dog new tricks. still open all day for a counter right. drops both guards when he is coming in 100% of the time
nice thing is, even with orthopedic gloves, fmw still won't sit on his punches.
if they midget can stay off the canvas and get around his reach deficit , i have him winning a SD, just on volume and work-rate. vegas isn't missing out on that rematch money
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just watched pacquiao v Bradley 2
Bradley was countering pacman all night with the right, FMW will do the same but more often and harder
pacman is just too open when he comes in and he wont get close enough given FMW has 5 inches reach advantage
pacman will get KO'd by FMW
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just watched pacquiao v Bradley 2
Bradley was countering pacman all night with the right, FMW will do the same but more often and harder
pacman is just too open when he comes in and he wont get close enough given FMW has 5 inches reach advantage
pacman will get KO'd by FMW
is he pretty boy or clown mayweather? it might be a good night for the midget if fmw has degenerated to the later.
maidana 2 is the ultimate cherry pick with lara, thurman, brook and andrade on the board and fmw clenched over 60 times in the fight, and his leg didn't look so good. also, is bayless there to protect fmw again even-though he has ref 6 or 7 of manny's fights?
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we'll soon know!
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we'll soon know!
Hopefully, someone posts a good stream. ;D