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I thought the fundies want the rapture to happen so I guess Bachmann is thanking Obama ?
http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAboZhG
Michele Bachmann: The Rapture Is Coming And It's Obama's Fault
Michele Bachmann says the rapture is coming, thanks to President Barack Obama’s policies on Iran’s nuclear program and marriage equality.
In a radio interview last week, Bachmann, the former Minnesota Republican congresswoman, told "End Times" host Jan Markell, “We need to realize how close this clock is getting to the midnight hour.”
“We in our lifetimes potentially could see Jesus Christ returning to earth and the rapture of the church,” Bachmann said. “We see the destruction, but this was a destruction that was foretold.”
Bachmann cited the Obama administration’s nuclear negotiations with Iran as a cause. The U.S. and five partner nations are discussing a deal with Iran that would prevent the country from developing or obtaining nuclear weapons.
“We are literally watching, month by month, the speed move up to a level we’ve never seen before with these events," Bachmann said. "Barack Obama is intent. It is his number one goal to ensure that Iran has a nuclear weapon.”
Later in the interview, Bachmann again tied her rapture prediction to Obama’s foreign policy.
“If you look at the president’s rhetoric, and if you look at his actions, everything he has done has been to cut the legs out of Israel and lift up the agenda of radical Islam,” she said.
Obama has said repeatedly that the goal of the nuclear talks with Iran is to prevent the country from developing a nuclear weapon.
Bachmann also blamed abortion and gay marriage, arguing that God is punishing the United States for “embracing a pagan view.”
“Any nation that accepts God and his principles is blessed, and those who push away are cursed. That’s what we’re seeing happen to the United States,” she said. “We will suffer the consequences as a result.”
Some Christians believe those who are saved will be transported to heaven just before armageddon, which they call the rapture.
This is not the first time Bachmann has predicted extreme consequences from the Iran deal. Earlier this month, she claimed the deal would lead to "World War III." And in a Facebook post, she compared Obama to Andreas Lubitz, the pilot who crashed the Germanwings airliner into the French Alps in March.
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I picture you to be semi if not a full blown retard. How many times do you suppose that video was edited and even if it wasn't. Where is she wrong. The bible does state that and we are headed for everything she said (excluding the rapture because I'd be willing bet the left wing propaganda machine blew it out of context). But we are fighting the devil and in the end he'll lose.
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I picture you to be semi if not a full blown retard. How many times do you suppose that video was edited and even if it wasn't. Where is she wrong. The bible does state that and we are headed for everything she said (excluding the rapture because I'd be willing bet the left wing propaganda machine blew it out of context). But we are fighting the devil and in the end he'll lose.
Lol :D
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I picture you to be semi if not a full blown retard. How many times do you suppose that video was edited and even if it wasn't. Where is she wrong. The bible does state that and we are headed for everything she said (excluding the rapture because I'd be willing bet the left wing propaganda machine blew it out of context). But we are fighting the devil and in the end he'll lose.
I hope you don't lose your flip flops when you're raptured
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"Any nation that accepts God and his principles is blessed, and those who push away are cursed."
LOL...
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I picture you to be semi if not a full blown retard. How many times do you suppose that video was edited and even if it wasn't. Where is she wrong. The bible does state that and we are headed for everything she said (excluding the rapture because I'd be willing bet the left wing propaganda machine blew it out of context). But we are fighting the devil and in the end he'll lose.
Coach, we have over 4800 nuclear weapons and 10k chemical arms and we're afraid of Iran enriching some uranium to power some homes???
Really?? As far as this rapture shit is concerned....lol. You're a fucking moron if you believe her shit
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God must have a different definition of "quickly"
"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus"
rev.22 v20
Meanwhile batshit crazy bachman continues to have conversations with god who is prolly telling her that OB is a Kenyan born commy muslim satan worshipper, homo drug addict.
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Coach, we have over 4800 nuclear weapons and 10k chemical arms and we're afraid of Iran enriching some uranium to power some homes???
It concerns me that Iran has sticks that could be used offensively, because the Iranian leadership consists mostly of crazed, religious fanatics who value martyrdom and see it as the price of admission to heaven. You can imagine how I feel about them having Uranium.
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Coach, we have over 4800 nuclear weapons and 10k chemical arms and we're afraid of Iran enriching some uranium to power some homes???
Really?? As far as this rapture shit is concerned....lol. You're a fucking moron if you believe her shit
As in "we"? The US? Are you seriously comparing a terrorist state that's threatening to wipe Israel and the US off the face of the map to the US? Are you shitting me Vince??
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I wouldn't trust a Muslim with a sharp stick let alone nuke
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As in "we"? The US? Are you seriously comparing a terrorist state that's threatening to wipe Israel and the US off the face of the map to the US? Are you shitting me Vince??
Frankly, I don't give a shit about Israel - they're more than capable of defending themselves, even if you take away their Federal subsidies. It's high time that we focused on ourselves and allowed others - Israel included - to manage their own affairs. Is Iran a viable existential threat to us? No. Can they do something incredibly stupid that will "hurt" us (and end them when we retaliate)? Yes.
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So now we've got to burn in hell because of our government - even though I'm only one vote out of 360,000,000.
That sucks.
I was planning on beating the atheist rap in the afterlife.
Now I gotta deal with this shit too?
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"Any nation that accepts God and his principles is blessed, and those who push away are cursed."
LOL...
It's like bizarro world, I picture her saying this outside a castle while they burn witches.
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It's like bizarro world, I picture her saying this outside a castle while they burn witches.
yet it all makes perfect sense to Joe
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It's like bizarro world, I picture her saying this outside a castle while they burn witches.
Seriously...like Obama you believe the greatest threat to this country is "global warming". You also believe that raising taxes all over the place is a cure for the economy..lol.
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Seriously...like Obama you believe the greatest threat to this country is "global warming". You also believe that raising taxes all over the place is a cure for the economy..lol.
yeah, no evidence of any global warming eh "coach"
I'm sure you're aware (of course you're not) that the US Military takes global warming very seriously
http://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-report-us-military-considers-climate-change-immediate-threat-could-foster-277155
A report released Monday indicates the Department of Defense has dramatically shifted its views towards climate change, and has already begun to treat the phenomenon as a significant threat to national security. Climate change, the Pentagon writes, requires immediate action on the part of the U.S. Military.
The report is a “roadmap” of the Department’s future needs and actions to effectively respond to climate change, including anticipating that climate change may require more frequent military intervention within the country to respond to natural disasters, as well as internationally to respond to “extremist ideologies” that may arise in regions where governments are destabilized due to climate-related stressors.
“The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability,” the Pentagon writes. “These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently-stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and conditions that foster terrorism.”
but fuck all that
much better to pretend you're having a personal relationship with a jewish zombie and at some point in the near future you're going to rise off the earth and shoot like an ICBM into the sky towards....who the fuck knows. Is heaven a coordinate somewhere out in space? .... or maybe you will just all land on the moon and settle in there and watch the firework show back on earth.
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yeah, no evidence of any global warming eh "coach"
I'm sure you're aware (of course you're not) that the US Military takes global warming very seriously
http://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-report-us-military-considers-climate-change-immediate-threat-could-foster-277155
but fuck all that
much better to pretend you're having a personal relationship with a jewish zombie and at some point in the near future you're going to rise off the earth and shoot like an ICBM into the sky towards....who the fuck knows. Is heaven a coordinate somewhere out in space? .... or maybe you will just all land on the moon and settle in there and watch the firework show back on earth.
So much hate and anger.
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yeah, no evidence of any global warming eh "coach"
I'm sure you're aware (of course you're not) that the US Military takes global warming very seriously
http://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-report-us-military-considers-climate-change-immediate-threat-could-foster-277155
but fuck all that
much better to pretend you're having a personal relationship with a jewish zombie and at some point in the near future you're going to rise off the earth and shoot like an ICBM into the sky towards....who the fuck knows. Is heaven a coordinate somewhere out in space? .... or maybe you will just all land on the moon and settle in there and watch the firework show back on earth.
LOL
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So much hate and anger.
I assume that was meant to be ironic or a joke
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yeah, no evidence of any global warming eh "coach"
I'm sure you're aware (of course you're not) that the US Military takes global warming very seriously
http://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-report-us-military-considers-climate-change-immediate-threat-could-foster-277155
but fuck all that
much better to pretend you're having a personal relationship with a jewish zombie and at some point in the near future you're going to rise off the earth and shoot like an ICBM into the sky towards....who the fuck knows. Is heaven a coordinate somewhere out in space? .... or maybe you will just all land on the moon and settle in there and watch the firework show back on earth.
Fucking liberal treehugging military idiots.
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As in "we"? The US? Are you seriously comparing a terrorist state that's threatening to wipe Israel and the US off the face of the map to the US? Are you shitting me Vince??
How the fuck are they going to do that when they have no fucking nuclear weapons??? All they have is one fucking nuclear power plant and that's it. They have not pursued any nuclear weapons research or design in over 10 years.
We have the weapons, Israel has plenty of nukes.....Iran doesn't have shit. We spend over 300 billion dollars a year in military compared to their 10 billion. I think we have the fucking situation under control you assclown. They still fly F-4 Phantoms...do you know how old that shit is?? They still arm their troops with M-1 Garand rifles for crying out loud. Iran has never...ever in the history of the country started a preemptive war. Did you know that, Joe??
Geez
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Brb. Joe is checking with Rush and Stupid media before he responds.
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How the fuck are they going to do that when they have no fucking nuclear weapons??? All they have is one fucking nuclear power plant and that's it. They have not pursued any nuclear weapons research or design in over 10 years.
We have the weapons, Israel has plenty of nukes.....Iran doesn't have shit. We spend over 300 billion dollars a year in military compared to their 10 billion. I think we have the fucking situation under control you assclown. They still fly F-4 Phantoms...do you know how old that shit is?? They still arm their troops with M-1 Garand rifles for crying out loud. Iran has never...ever in the history of the country started a preemptive war. Did you know that, Joe??
Geez
I can't take it anymore. You're officially riding the same short bus as straw man. I just can't figure out who's driving. You or him.
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Just when you believe some peoples views couldn't get more insane, they do. And to think, this crazy woman was briefly running for President of the United States. From these latest comments, it would appear she is a doomsday religious fanatic. "Lord" help us should one of her ilk get elected President in 2016.
I respect the left and the right's differing opinions, but why is it that all the nut jobs seem to come from the right?
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Just when you believe some peoples views couldn't get more insane, they do. And to think, this crazy woman was briefly running for President of the United States. From these latest comments, it would appear she is a doomsday religious fanatic. "Lord" help us should one of her ilk get elected President in 2016.
I respect the left and the right's differing opinions, but why is it that all the nut jobs seem to come from the right?
try to keep in mind that there are a lot of people in this country who share her completely insane beliefs,including some people on this board (such as our vertically challenged phony "coach") and many people in Congress
Not only that, these people think they are the smart crowd
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Just when you believe some peoples views couldn't get more insane, they do. And to think, this crazy woman was briefly running for President of the United States. From these latest comments, it would appear she is a doomsday religious fanatic. "Lord" help us should one of her ilk get elected President in 2016.
I respect the left and the right's differing opinions, but why is it that all the nut jobs seem to come from the right?
They don't - there are nutjobs on both sides and they're all dangerous, each in his or her own special way.
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They don't - there are nutjobs on both sides and they're all dangerous, each in his or her own special way.
can you give us some examples of left wing nut jobs that are comparable to Bachmann or comparable to the beliefs of the american doomsday cult (aka - fundamentalist christians)
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I can't take it anymore. You're officially riding the same short bus as straw man. I just can't figure out who's driving. You or him.
Everything I stated is pure fact. Look it up if you like but you can't make a lion out of a fucking gerbil
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can you give us some examples of left wing nut jobs that are comparable to Bachmann or comparable to the beliefs of the american doomsday cult (aka - fundamentalist christians)
Doomsday cults don't have a monopoly of crazy. That's not to say that some liberals don't partake: while global warming is real (disclaimer: whether it's anthropogenic or not is up for debate) plenty of liberals are screaming "THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!"
That aside, let's set teleology aside. There's still plenty of crazy, again from both sides. Look at guns: some crazy left-wingers want an outright gun ban; meanwhile some crazy right-wingers see nothing wrong with allowing citizens access to Stinger missiles.
That people who adhere to some particular mindset (e.g. Evangelical Christianity) tend to also be firmly planted on one side of the political spectrum doesn't mean that there aren't crazy people on the other end. There are crazy people at either end of the spectrum. It's naive to claim that one party or own group has a monopoly on crazy.
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Doomsday cults don't have a monopoly of crazy. That's not to say that some liberals don't partake: while global warming is real (disclaimer: whether it's anthropogenic or not is up for debate) plenty of liberals are screaming "THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!"
That aside, let's set teleology aside. There's still plenty of crazy, again from both sides. Look at guns: some crazy left-wingers want an outright gun ban; meanwhile some crazy right-wingers see nothing wrong with allowing citizens access to Stinger missiles.
That people who adhere to some particular mindset (e.g. Evangelical Christianity) tend to also be firmly planted on one side of the political spectrum doesn't mean that there aren't crazy people on the other end. There are crazy people at either end of the spectrum. It's naive to claim that one party or own group has a monopoly on crazy.
You're right, there will always be those fringe people with some crazy ideas about things.
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Doomsday cults don't have a monopoly of crazy. That's not to say that some liberals don't partake: while global warming is real (disclaimer: whether it's anthropogenic or not is up for debate) plenty of liberals are screaming "THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!"
That aside, let's set teleology aside. There's still plenty of crazy, again from both sides. Look at guns: some crazy left-wingers want an outright gun ban; meanwhile some crazy right-wingers see nothing wrong with allowing citizens access to Stinger missiles.
That people who adhere to some particular mindset (e.g. Evangelical Christianity) tend to also be firmly planted on one side of the political spectrum doesn't mean that there aren't crazy people on the other end. There are crazy people at either end of the spectrum. It's naive to claim that one party or own group has a monopoly on crazy.
I definitely get the point you're making but the even the fringe who want to "ban all guns" don't compare to the concept proposed by Bachmann that the POTUS is going to cause The Rapture (and insane premise in and of itself). Also, I would suspect that the "ban all guns" crowd is tiny compared the the number of people who actually believe in the Rapture.
"Ban all Guns" is not equivalent to "The end of times are here and I will see rise up off the earth and fly to heaven"
Also, to be clear. I never said one party had a monopoly on crazy but one party definitely has a much larger and vocal group of crazies
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I find Michelle B. hillarious.
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Michelle b ringing the crazy again.....you can see the lunacy in her eyes
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I definitely get the point you're making but the even the fringe who want to "ban all guns" don't compare to the concept proposed by Bachmann that the POTUS is going to cause The Rapture (and insane premise in and of itself). Also, I would suspect that the "ban all guns" crowd is tiny compared the the number of people who actually believe in the Rapture.
The point is that there's people think all sorts of really crazy things. How many there are is not relevant - an idea should be judged on its merits, not how many ascribe to it. As for what's crazier, I don't claim any expertise on the subject. As far as I'm concerned, crazy is crazy and I see no real distinction between Bachmann believing the rapture is coming, or when Rosie O'Donnell articulates her 9/11 conspiracy theories about claims that 9/11 was the first time that fire has ever melted steel, or when Nancy Lieder (http://www.zetatalk.com/nancybio.htm) believing she was abducted by aliens. Crazy is crazy. Period.
"Ban all Guns" is not equivalent to "The end of times are here and I will see rise up off the earth and fly to heaven"
"The end of times are here and I will see rise up off the earth and fly to heaven" are about as crazy "The life of a chicken is worth the same as the life of a human."
Also, to be clear. I never said one party had a monopoly on crazy but one party definitely has a much larger and vocal group of crazies
Or perhaps their particular brand of crazy is personally offensive to you, while other brands of crazy you can take or leave.
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The point is that there's people think all sorts of really crazy things. How many there are is not relevant - an idea should be judged on its merits, not how many ascribe to it. As for what's crazier, I don't claim any expertise on the subject. As far as I'm concerned, crazy is crazy and I see no real distinction between Bachmann believing the rapture is coming, or when Rosie O'Donnell articulates her 9/11 conspiracy theories about claims that 9/11 was the first time that fire has ever melted steel, or when Nancy Lieder (http://www.zetatalk.com/nancybio.htm) believing she was abducted by aliens. Crazy is crazy. Period.
"The end of times are here and I will see rise up off the earth and fly to heaven" are about as crazy "The life of a chicken is worth the same as the life of a human."
Or perhaps their particular brand of crazy is personally offensive to you, while other brands of crazy you can take or leave.
I'm not following your "life of a chicken" thing
where is that coming from ?
I don't find people who believe in the Rapture to be offensive
I find them to be crazy
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You're right, there will always be those fringe people with some crazy ideas about things.
Gotta wonder how 'fringe' she really is.
As I understand it, all Christians believe in the end of days stuff.
And I would speculate that most, if not all, past Presidents and the current one (if he can be believed - not likely given his track record) are Christian.
So which is worse, the Christian who believes in end of days and doesn't talk about it or the one who openly discusses it?
I'm not sure there is much of a difference.
I part ways with fellow atheists as I don't think religious people are stupid. But it seems any time they can't resolve a logical issue related to their beliefs, they just break down into nonsense.
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I hadn't considered that many Christians believe in a final judgment day. The following is how Catholics view this.
Our Lord in the Gospel spoke of His second coming. He indicated that various signs would mark the event. Mankind would suffer from famine, pestilence and natural disasters. False prophets who claim to be the Messiah will deceive and mislead people. Nations will wage war against each other. The Church will endure persecution. Worse yet, the faith of many will grow cold and they will abandon the faith, even betraying and hating one another.
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/judga2.htm
There's much more to their teaching on the final judgment day in the linked article.